Should Fred’s supporters abandon him tomorrow for … Huckabee?

posted at 8:30 pm on January 18, 2008 by Allahpundit

T-minus 24 hours and counting until, in all likelihood, his political career’s over. I can’t resist one last poke at the Fredhead beehive for old time’s sake.

The argument comes from Patrick Ruffini: Since Huckabee probably doesn’t have the money or organization to run the table on Super Ultra Mega Tuesday but McCain does, shouldn’t South Carolina’s Romney, Giuliani, and Thompson supporters defect tomorrow and vote for Huck to blunt Mac’s momentum heading into Florida? That’s an easy yes in the first two cases but in Fred’s case it would mean the end. Has the time come to take Ol’ Yeller out back? Ruffini says … yes:

If you’re a Romney or a Rudy guy, this is a relative no-brainer. This will be tougher for FredHeads, since their guy has made a stand in the state. But with less than 24 hours to go, and Fred running no better than a weak third, it is probably time to face facts. It’s too bad, because conservatives deserve Fred Thompson as a choice, but it just doesn’t seem to be happening.

John Tabin at Reason likewise fears the Reaper:

Alas, Thompson has hardly taken the race by storm. Glenn Reynolds wrote last month that he might have joined Volokh et al. in endorsing Thompson if he hadn’t observed how poorly Thompson’s campaign is run behind the scenes. That poorly run campaign has yielded poor results. Thompson’s low-key affect and introverted personality made him ill-suited to the hands-on retail politicking that Iowans expect, and he edged out John McCain for third place in the Iowa caucuses by just three tenths of a percentage point despite spending much more time than McCain stumping in the Hawkeye State (McCain focused on New Hampshire, where he won). He made almost no effort in the New Hampshire and Michigan primaries, where he got less than 2 percent and less than 4 percent of the vote, respectively…

Perhaps something will change the dynamics of the race in the remaining hours before South Carolina Republicans go to the polls tomorrow, and Thompson will catch a break. But at the moment, his prospects don’t appear to give fans of smaller government any reason to abandon the pessimism that has by now become all too familiar.

Re: how poorly run Fred’s campaign is/was, be sure to see this Mark Steyn item at the Corner if you missed it last night. Has the time come, ‘Heads? If the polls hold and Fred finishes fourth with less than half of McCain’s vote, Romney’s going to be your guy anyway come Sunday morning. Why not vote strategically tomorrow?

I offer you this to remember the man by. Meanwhile, here’s the state of conservatism in 2008: A RINO touting the kind words of another RINO in, of all places, South Carolina. Between them they’ve got 50% of the vote. Good lord.

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In the meantime, the VRWC is at it again in Las Vegas. /sarc

DannoJyd on January 19, 2008 at 1:07 PM

Energy independence can be achieved in two years through the construction of fischer tropsch coal to oil facilities!

Harold Hardrada

I see why you’re voting for Huckabee. Coal-to-oil and nuclear energy are very important in achieving energy independence. But if you believe it can be done in 2 years — or 4 — then: Wow!

It would explain how you believe Huckabee is a fiscal conservative who raises taxes, a small-government conservative who wants the federal government trying to stop smoking and limit political speech, a national defense conservative who would close down Gitmo and move the terrorists to Fort Leavenworth to appease critics, and a strong patriot who wants to apologize to other nations for our “arrogant bunker mentality.”

I’m not saying you’re stupid. I’m saying I would never want to live in a house you built, or use a system you created.

The reason we don’t have energy independence is because it’s not easy. We’ve known about nuclear power for a generation, but we’re still not taking advantage of it. It’s the political obstacles that are the toughest. But Huckabee has no special gift, other than the gift of speaking as a conservative in broad terms while governing as a liberal on the practical details.

Furthermore, the man campaigned for Democrats and against Republicans when he was a Republican governor. You can’t do anything in politics without allies, and you don’t get allies by destroying the people in your own party.

Furthermore, as a preacher in the Southern Baptist convention, he refused to defend traditional Southern Baptist doctrines and practice. The media called it a conflict between “conservatives” and “moderates.” Guess which side Huckabee was on?

And in this context, “moderate” meant the people who didn’t necessarily believe in a resurrection, or that the Bible was necessarily the word of God, etc.

theregoestheneighborhood on January 19, 2008 at 1:38 PM

funky chicken on January 19, 2008 at 10:40 AM

Yeah that’s right people that warn you of an apporaching storm wants you to run out and slit your wrists.

Look the economy is in major trouble. That is a fact. The majority of times this country has gone thru hard economic times the country has lurched to the left. That is another fact. It is imperative that people see and understand what is happening. To prepare for the worse and to try to avert that possibility. You can not fix what is broken by putting you head in the sand and saying everything will be alright. We as a nation need to have this discussion.

Our nations banks are facing the very real threat of insolvency. They are not going begging hat in hand to the Middle East and China for the fun of it. We are talking about our banks, not our Stock market nor our Savings and Loans but our banks. Our Banks of America, Wells Fargo, Citibanks, JPMorgan Chase, Merrill’s are all on the brink of becoming insolvent. This means CD’s, savings accounts, Money Market, checking accounts, ALL home loans are faced with the very real threat of becoming wiped out. This means the Federal government will be on the hook thru FDIC to insure these accounts. We are talking Trillions in taxpayer money being at stake.

Recessions and Depressions do not take years to develop but they take years to emerge from.

unseen on January 19, 2008 at 1:41 PM

Still spewing bigot stew, csdeven @ 6:38 AM, having announced that Mitt&family are absolutely without fault. The most horrible truth remains dormant in their closet awaiting the general election when everything comes out. My apologies for reminding you of the obvious and politically incorrect memory of their knavery and lack of courage. If the Romney family is, as you say, the icon of integrity, why then, when their daughter became pregant out of wedlock, did he and they fail her?

It hurts everyone to think of this. The Romneys had financial means to provide for another child. They had the financial means to provide her with a safe abortion if that was her decision. Their political image would be tarnished, so they failed to provide her the support she needed, leaving her to fend for herself amongst the filthy shadows. They failed in that sad and tragic circumstance to protect human lives, choosing instead to protect their political careers. We all weep for the family’s pain. But they compound the tragedy; casting her away before her death only to use her blood following her death.

Following her untimely death, they sided with the social liberals to benefit their own political survival, promoting federal funding for abortions while eliminating the social consciousness towards protecting the innocent unborn babies. “Ready to fix what’s wrong in Washington”? They blamed the government for their daughter’s demise.

Finally, when time passed to the point requiring Mitt’s conversion against abortion in order to claim conservative values as a pretense to garner conservative support, Mitt becomes a candidate running for the GOP nomination.

Regarding timing and dedication to the GOP platform, Mitt had NO CHOICE but to begin campaigning so far in advance, having absolutely the wrong record to cover tracks.

That Mitt now sees his error is noted. However, this entire tragic incident is for Mitt what Chappaquidick is to Teddy Kennedy, Mitt’s friend. Those who see Mitt flip-flopping have their eyes open.

My stance against Mitt Romney includes the observation that those who put this plastic liberal into power will not tolerate legitimate dissent; and those whom Romney owes appointments have no tolerance for historical record. They are revisionists utilizing the most seductive propaganda to flood the GOP with socialism.

maverick muse on January 19, 2008 at 1:43 PM

Wow. unseen wants us all to slit our wrists to collect the life insurance. More fear on Wall Street since 1987! BFD man, get a hold of yourself.

funky chicken on January 19, 2008 at 10:40 AM

Funky chicken, meet Chicken Little.

geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 1:47 PM

Ya know just as one last Jab…
I would love to Vote for Fred….
he really does seem to be the most conservative.
BUT
Why would I want someone as president who cant even run a successful campaign?
seriously… If you cant play the campaign game why would you believe he could play the “president” game also?

Just saying…

Also all those folks who say that they will write Freds name in in the general election???
I hope you like Saying Hillary in Chief. Cuz, you will be.

again, Just saying…

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on January 19, 2008 at 1:49 PM

That’s like saying I know slavery is wrong but let’s have the states decide whether or not to outlaw it…some states will have slavery and others won’t….maybe you’ve never heard of the civil war?

HaraldHardrada on January 19, 2008 at 9:11 AM

You keep repeating this, so let’s bury it properly. Question: does anyone argue that shooting someone dead is not murder? So why isn’t it a federal crime?

Apparently, our entire Congress doesn’t believe there’s anything wrong with killing people who get in the way.

Or — and at this point, I’ll have to ask you to try to think — maybe it doesn’t have to be a federal crime to be outlawed.

If laws against murder are made at the state level, why is that unacceptable for abortion? And why is it unacceptable for a candidate to push for exactly that?

theregoestheneighborhood on January 19, 2008 at 1:57 PM

Those that want to vote for Huckabee might as well vote for Hillary or Obama since there really isn’t much difference between the three and who wants a liberal RINO in the White House to sullen the Republican name.

docdave on January 19, 2008 at 2:03 PM

WastelandMan on January 19, 2008 at 1:49 PM

WasteOfTimeMan.

Just saying . . .

geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 2:04 PM

Everyone telling me what to do with MY VOTE can go Eff themselves.

omnipotent on January 19, 2008 at 2:09 PM

I know Fred is your guy, and yer frustrated, but he is the candidate, Fred is the one to blame for his own failure in this campaign.

I put the “Just saying” in because I Know my opinion is in a sea of other opinion…

but you didn’t answer my question.

Fred is a conservative, and a good man. I like him.
but his own chairs didn’t vote for him in the NE primaries please explain. Please…

I am being civil at the very least give me credit for that.

I dont think the question is a waste of time.

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on January 19, 2008 at 2:10 PM

WastelandMan on January 19, 2008 at 2:10 PM

Frankly I don’t care what a few turds in New Hampshire did or who they voted for.

Fred!s campaign has been far from perfect, I don’t think ANY Fred!head would disagree.

However, who has run a perfect campaign this year? (Mitt, Rudy, McVain, Huckster, Paul, Clinton, Obama?)

Who has ever run a perfect campaign? (Reagan, Bush, 1 or 2, Clenis, Carter, Nixon, Ford, etc.?)

Hell yeah I would have rather seen a better run campaign, but I won’t abandon MY principles due to some bumps in the road for Fred!

Do we conservatives have ANY spine left to stand up for what we believe?

omnipotent on January 19, 2008 at 2:15 PM

Funky chicken, meet Chicken Little.

geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 1:47 PM

Chicken Little is it? I have taken steps to protect myself. I went into cash in DEC before the selloff. I’m up 15% compared to the rest of the market. I have made money on the way down thur buying puts in the market. I have paid off all of my adjustable rate credit cards, loans etc. My retirement is not at risk. Sadly most in america have done none of these things.

Like those that stayed in NO when Katrina was bearing down on the city, they too called those that fled that storm chicken littles. Yet those same people were yelling the loudest from their rooftops for salvation after the storm. The fact is the storm is approaching, you can take steps to protect yourself or you can wait and hope that the helicoptors arrive to save you. Seeing that McCain and the rest of Washington doesn’t even think we are in trouble, and the rest of our canidates not discussing the issue. I’ll say you could have a long wait for those helicoptors.

unseen on January 19, 2008 at 2:23 PM

*sigh* so again Whos to blame?

If his own folks wont vote for him please just stop sticking up for that. I would love for him to stuff mcvain and huck-a-schmuck in the dumpster but its like he wants the voters to come to him. and he doesnt seem to want to go to the people to get his message out.

If HE (Fred) hasnt shown enough of the country that he is the comservative candidate (see the foks voting for McVain) then whos fault is it?
Mine? gee Im sorry i screwed up Freds campaign Gosh i wish i could fix it.

..yeesh

ya’ll make me sad.

-Wasteland Man

WastelandMan on January 19, 2008 at 2:27 PM

I am being civil at the very least give me credit for that.

I dont think the question is a waste of time.

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on January 19, 2008 at 2:10 PM

“Just saying” is not civil, it’s what you announce to mimic civility, but intend inflammatory. It is also passive/aggressive.

I snarked the “waste of time” because your questions were loaded. Honestly, dude. They have also been posed and answered numerous times here.

geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 2:30 PM

Thank you for your response Geckomon
well I missed those answers as this post is heading for 1000
Again I feel for your loss and bitterness in losing.
I hope I didn’t offend.
and I explained the “Just saying” if your bitterness has caused you to be cynical then I am sorry for that too.

-Wasteland Man.

P.S. if you could link me to the answers I’d appreciate it.
I really want to know how you justify his poor campaign performance. Thank you.

WastelandMan on January 19, 2008 at 2:35 PM

unseen on January 19, 2008 at 2:23 PM

I like how you kinda strengthened my sarcasm with more squawking.

It’s not always the message only that makes a Chicken Little. It’s also the delivery. You gave a doomsday painted scenario and it made some here respond as such.

Hence, Chicken Little.

You may have a point, I couldn’t see it past the doom and gloom rhetoric.

geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 2:36 PM

omnipotent on January 19, 2008 at 2:15 PM

The race is just starting in real terms and people want to call it. This race has the potential to go all the way to the convention. those that want to call it over are hoping for a quick knockout. No canidate sees any downside to exiting the race early so why would they. Fred can compete in the South primaries. Mitt in the West and North, Rudy in the North and McCain can compete in the moderate states. after investing time and money they will stay in as long as the chance to gain a voice in the convention is still there.

unseen on January 19, 2008 at 2:37 PM

I really want to know how you justify his poor campaign performance. Thank you.

WastelandMan on January 19, 2008 at 2:35 PM

You assume I agree with the premise of your argument.
You also assume I will be depressed with a Fred loss.
The threads here have been too numerous to link any specific comment to your questions.
Do your own research.
Hint: Start with “Fred” or “Fredhead” in the search field.

geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 2:39 PM

Everyone talks about poor campaign performance as if it is an “ideal” campaign that everyone must follow. This is bunk. The link is my answer to your question WastelandMan.

Pointing to his campaign as ineffective before the voting just because that’s what the media keeps saying… well, we know how much the media likes Fred. Like many others, I’m still voting for Fred because he’s the candidate that best represents what I want to see in a president.

Stashiu3 on January 19, 2008 at 2:42 PM

Energy independence can be achieved in two years through the construction of fischer tropsch coal to oil facilities!

Harold Hardrada

My company does some of that – you must be smoking something bud. Two years? Um, it takes that long just to get the contracts and financing done before the engineering to design the plants can be started. More like 6 years provided regulations are met.

roxer on January 19, 2008 at 2:42 PM

correction, your not defeating the left voting for a rino, your empowering the right to go further left.

palefaced on January 19, 2008 at 12:43 PM

That is it in a nutshell.

SimplyKimberly on January 19, 2008 at 2:42 PM

Sorry to Pick on you Gecko…
IF anyone else has a link I’d appreciate it.

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on January 19, 2008 at 2:44 PM

THank you, Stashiu3 on January 19, 2008 at 2:42 PM

But you are still evading. He’s the one who has to sell himself not the other way around. I appreciate your fervor and I do agree I wish others had it for Fred too. The voters are not coming along though and that too is sad, but that is reality.

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on January 19, 2008 at 2:47 PM

WastelandMan on January 19, 2008 at 2:44 PM

I understand your request for civility, I may have been too quick with the wit. Your questions have been hounding this thread ad nauseam no matter how many retorts.

If you don’t like Fred, I respect that. I’d like a reason more substantial. Or if that’s it, well, then I guess it is what it is.

geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 2:52 PM

geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 2:36 PM

There is no other way to say it. Maybe that is why Washington will not talk about it. They don’t want to panic people. But people need to read and understand what is happening. Esp. those close to retirement. Look at the FRONT page of Friday’s Wall Street journal for what is going on. This is not your normal selloff in the markets. I don’t want my government to take more and more of my freedom because people are too lazy to read and understand the possible ramifications of what is going on. I do not want the federal government to put more and more rules and regulations on our economy, however that is what is going to happen if we do nothing.

unseen on January 19, 2008 at 2:53 PM

I think you all are attacking me when I am more in your camp than you realize.
I am offering critisim because he’s losing
his campaign flopped when he first got in the race. Its sad but it happens. I would DEFINATELY pull the lever for Fred if he became the the Nominee! What I am saying is he has run his own campaign and its failed so far. maybe he’ll pick it up in SC today! If so GO FRED!!!!!!
IF not I am just trying to get you all to not be so bitter, and think rationally.
Now if McCain wins YEEESH than I will be hating life. but better him than Hillary or Obama.(but not by much :( )

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on January 19, 2008 at 2:53 PM

Fred must have some intention of staying in after SC because his website is asking to hit 1.5mm by January 21, two days after the fact. I think if he does well in SC, even a strong third, the donation meter is going to flip out like it did last time.

Don’t know if anyone pointed this out before; I can’t bring myself to wade through 10 pages of comments when many of them are either not related to the subject at hand, or are trying to tell me why I should not support Fred.

LickyLicky on January 19, 2008 at 2:56 PM

What did I evade? Running a campaign with dignity and solid platforms is not my idea of poor campaigning. It should be an example, not a criticism.

It’s still early by all objective rationales, despite all the media hype. Calling a campaign over before a majority of voting is complete is dumb and any candidate who quits now shouldn’t have run in the first place. Being president is a long-haul activity. Running for president should be a long-haul activity, not something for the faint-hearted.

Stashiu3 on January 19, 2008 at 2:56 PM

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on January 19, 2008 at 2:53 PM

If you like Fred, if you want Fred, If you agree with Fred, then vote Fred! What is the problem then?

geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Stashiu3 on January 19, 2008 at 2:56 PM

*sigh*

http://granitegrok.com/blog/2007/08/bleep_or_get_off_the_pot.html

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on January 19, 2008 at 3:02 PM

geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 3:00 PM

LOL, Cuz I dont live in SC.

Seriously, My Caucus is worthless in this primary…

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on January 19, 2008 at 3:03 PM

HAS THIS COMMENT SECTION SET A RECORD FOR NUMBER OF COMMENTS YET?

Kaptain Amerika on January 19, 2008 at 3:07 PM

oh wow!

Heres one fer you guys! from the headlines on HA!

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDM1ZmYwZTZjN2RlODM5NTdlOTVjZjE4YWI5NDkyN2Q=

enjoy!

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on January 19, 2008 at 3:09 PM

Many complained when candidates started campaigning with almost two years until the general election to go. But now, anyone who didn’t campaign that long is accused of jumping in with “too-little, too-late”.

Why is Bloomberg considering a run now? Because coming in later has advantages of its own. Again, Fred is doing things the way I think they should be done, at the time he should be doing them. We’ll see if the strategy is effective, but calling it ineffective before the results are in is fickle or disingenuous.

If your only complaint about Fred (if you really do support him) is the way he’s run his campaign, you’re fickle not to vote for him. If you really support someone else, then you’re disingenuous. If you vote for him despite disliking his campaign strategy, you’re a conscientious voter. Which is it?

Stashiu3 on January 19, 2008 at 3:10 PM

LOL, Cuz I dont live in SC.

Seriously, My Caucus is worthless in this primary…

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on January 19, 2008 at 3:03 PM

Dude, you’re killing me.

geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 3:27 PM

geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 3:27 PM

Dude,
I live in NM My primary is really worthless.
Thats why My Opinion is just that “opinion” LOL
I started posting just out of curiousity.

(and to Help Allah get an unlimited ITunes account for his IPhone *Grin*)

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on January 19, 2008 at 3:32 PM

No only no but, Huck NO

Big John on January 19, 2008 at 3:38 PM

Amazing number of comments for a blog postulating pure wishful thinking.

I read a short time ago a commenter on Fred’s site received a fundraising call from the campaign this morning. Naturally, being a rabid FredHead, I took this as a sign of…

FLORIDA OR BUST!

http://www.fred08.com

redneck hippie on January 19, 2008 at 3:45 PM

http://i17.tinypic.com/6wnfeye.jpg

Tax Matrix Chart PDF

Place your Money ON Rudy Giuliani!

Literally!

Chakra Hammer on January 19, 2008 at 3:50 PM

Go Rudy!

The TRUE Federalist.

Chakra Hammer on January 19, 2008 at 3:51 PM

Since last Spring it’s been like pushing water up a mountain with a rope. I like his politics but I just can’t get behind someone that won’t even fix an obviously flawed campaign. If Fred would have had the seeds to harness Jeri and set up a real campaign, it surely would have changed my view of him.
Give his support to Huckles? You’re kidding right?

oakpack on January 19, 2008 at 4:24 PM

Allah’s wishful thinking, Updated:

Fred’s plans – “I’ll go to Florida even if I finish third.”

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/01/thompson_plans.html

Guess the Fred campaign wasn’t kidding when they called that supporter in Ohio this morning for cash.

Freditivity.

http://www.fred08.com

redneck hippie on January 19, 2008 at 4:24 PM

redneck hippie on January 19, 2008 at 4:24 PM

Ya scooped me!

TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 4:38 PM

TheSitRep on January 19, 2008 at 4:38 PM

A commenter on another blog said they saw something on fox news about Fred going to TN and then to Georgia. I take it with a grain of salt, because FoxViews is senseless and a waste of time. Developing…

Freditivity!

http://www.fred08.com

redneck hippie on January 19, 2008 at 4:50 PM

At this point, anyone who tries to sell someone else on “conventional wisdom” or “since 1980 the winner of SC has done this or that” as the basis for switching votes on anything other than personal principles either isn’t being honest or is a complete moron.

The fact is, we have an entirely different animal in the primary process this time around. There is no precedent, no conventional wisdom, and it’s asinine for anyone (particularly in the wide-open GOP) for anyone to buy into the notion that any candidate is truly “out of it” after SC, or Florida for that matter.

I’m praying that Fred won’t give in no matter what. He now has enough cash to play well through Feb 5 and he appears intent on staying in at least through Florida based on the appeal currently posted at fred08.com.

I first suspected we’d be looking at a brokered convention when the states started messing with the primary dates. Every day it becomes more likely. And, in a brokered convention in which people actually have to think, I believe it plays to Fred’s strengths.

kdaddy on January 19, 2008 at 4:51 PM

Voting machine problems reported in one South Carolina county
Posted: 11:15 AM ET

Poll workers in Horry County tell CNN voting machines have been down since polls opened Saturday morning throughout the county — the machines are not reading an activation card.

Three poll workers also tell CNN the county has about 100 precincts and all have been affected. CNN is awaiting a call back from the county’s election supervisor.

I smell a rat.

apacalyps on January 19, 2008 at 4:53 PM

I smell a rat an alibi.

apacalyps on January 19, 2008 at 4:53 PM

FIFY

Stashiu3 on January 19, 2008 at 4:56 PM

Is ron paul going to beat fred AGAIN?

Fred: If I could just increase my support from 3% to 8% I might just be able to beat the lunatic fringe candidate for once!

HaraldHardrada on January 19, 2008 at 5:33 PM

Is ron paul going to beat fred AGAIN?

Fred: If I could just increase my support from 3% to 8% I might just be able to beat the lunatic fringe candidate for once!

HaraldHardrada on January 19, 2008 at 5:33 PM

Time to move out of that glass house.

geckomon on January 19, 2008 at 6:28 PM

Why why why would Fred endorse the huckster??? I must not be understanding what’s going on there….can someone please explain it to me?

JustTruth101 on January 19, 2008 at 7:20 PM

Not sure who said it but “we get the Government we deserve” and so it seems to be the case with the Republican Party. We had two or three very good Conservative candidates.. and for some reason we seemed too eager to abandon them from the beginning. Starting with Alan Keyes, Duncan Hunter and now Fred Thompson. To put any of the other Rinos up will be a sure loss for the GOP and I for one will NOT go thru the next 4 or 8 years frustrated because I voted for someone the MSM picked for Me. God says he would “put a strong delusion” over many and I’m starting to think thats what is occuring this election. If McCain, Romney, Rudy or Huckabee becomes the Nominee .. I have no doubt the GOP will be finished..Humiliated and unable to trust their government and Party any longer. The election turn out on our side will nosedive if a true Conservative like Fred is tossed aside. Many I know will NOT show up to vote just to get another RINO in the WH. What does it matter really..You know what McCain is capable of.. and Rudy, and Huck and Mitt,who all one has to do is look at YOUTUBE a few years back and witness the 180 degree turnaround on almost all major issues. I dont know what you Political junkies expect Fred to do… Not be himself.. act like he can’t go on if he doesnt win this state or that one? Like I said, you get the govt you deserve… enjoy. As for me.. I prefer to be able to live with myself.. and know I didn’t compromise. If youre a Conservative, then vote for Fred, if not, you’d best be prepared for Hillary in 2008.

LibsREvilDoers on January 19, 2008 at 8:03 PM

LibsREvilDoers

I seriously believe that you are the type, that lacks critical thinking, and pragmatism..

Also, I feel that posts like that are what have eroded the GOP’s outreach and appeal.

RWR did NOT run on “my way or the highway..”

NOR should we now.

Chakra Hammer on January 20, 2008 at 2:33 AM

Also, I feel that posts like that are what have eroded the GOP’s outreach and appeal.

Chakra Hammer on January 20, 2008 at 2:33 AM

And I feel that lackadaisical attitudes like yours are what has led us to the point that we are considering, as republicans, voting for a presidential candidate more liberal than the current president.

MadisonConservative on January 20, 2008 at 3:20 AM

Our primary process leaves a lot to be desired.

Why is it that a few liberal dilrods in a few states get to set the adgenda for the nation?

TheSitRep on January 20, 2008 at 7:56 AM

This is simply the year of identity politics. It’s frustrating to watch the conservative ship go down but as Rush says, the price of ignorance is a high one. I’ll be voting for Fred at the county convention here in Nevada so don’t blame me. :-)

Mojave Mark on January 20, 2008 at 2:48 PM

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