There is NO SUCH THING as an unloaded gun. Or have we forgotten this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_91jcFTbLE8

srhoades on January 18, 2008 at 10:20 AM

That’s the dumbest load of crap I’ve ever heard on here. Do you know what a loaded gun is? It’s a gun with live rounds in it.

The gun in your video had live rounds in it. It was loaded.
A gun in a gun store has no rounds in it. It is unloaded.

Guns aren’t dangerous. Only idiots with guns are dangerous.

Our founding fathers considered it not merely a right, but a sacred duty, an obligation that every citizen was under.

doriangrey on January 17, 2008 at 11:26 PM

Something cannot be both a right and a duty. The founding fathers considered gun ownership, as the means of a free people to protect themselves from tyrannical governments, a responsibility of the people, but still a freedom to choose.

It’s also makes sense to have a law that says, “those that will use guns to commit crimes, or have done so in the past, shall not be allowed to own guns”. You might argue that the law is pointless, since those people ignore our laws anyways, but it doesn’t make the law wrong.

you have in fact been brainwashed in believing the values of socialism and at the same time deceived into thinking your socialist values are genuine conservative democratic values

You got all that about this fella from a few posts in this thread? Is it at all possible to have a different opinion than you yet NOT be a socialist?

Finally, can you appreciate the irony in the fact that you posted direct quotes from the people who composed the 2nd amendment stating that it was intended for “peacable”, “law-abiding” citizens to be used for “self defense” and against the “tyranny” of governments?

There is NO SUCH THING as an unloaded gun. Or have we forgotten this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_91jcFTbLE8

Chakra Hammer on January 18, 2008 at 3:50 AM

So…no comment on CC and OC? Shocka.

They wanted to get caught so they could be Democratized. In prison they would be surrounded by people who understood them, and they would free rent, food, and a rec center that will get them into shape to handle the ‘real world’ when they get out.

Truth-these are deportation cases. Let Castro absorb their hatred and stupidity.

I never said he was soft on crime, only squishy as overcooked macaroni on illegal immigration. I thought I already explained that I posted that rant on the wrong subject, not that I don’t mean it.

Meow, if he wants to take all my guns away, that’s a different story.

LickyLicky on January 18, 2008 at 1:57 AM

Illegal Immigration is a crime, and supposed to be enforced BY THE FEDS, as Rudy has said ALL ALONG!

He said as much going way back to 1982, said the same thing as mayor! The feds will not do their jobs(do you think the federal government is NOT negligent? do the feds deport enough illegals? do they deport even 20% of the people sent to them? NO), put Rudy in the WH, and you will see some aggressive enforcement.

I have no doubts.
(He has had to deal with the Feds lack of enforcement for so long I bet he’s just itching to fix this problem, he also loves a challenge.)

Meow, if he wants to take all my guns away, that’s a different story.

Rudy is an illegal’s dream.
LickyLicky on January 18, 2008 at 12:59 AM

Yea, thats what the Mafia thought too..

Keep all the BS up all you want, Rudy is the toughest Crime fighter in the race, not some 1 in 100 that has never had real responsibility.

All for guns. All for the 2nd. All for the right to protect what is mine and myself, also. I’d have NO problem shooting someone who way trying to harm my family or friends. In fact, with regards to personal protection, I just got this in an email:

Mom told me this morning that Newell Normand, Sherriff, came on tv to say that the increased gang activity e-mails circulating are a hoax, and that may be true. However, an acquaintance of Matt and mine was shot last night in front of his home in Marrero for no reason at all. He had just arrived home from work between 6 and 6:30 pm and got out of his truck to walk to his front door when two men with guns walked up and each took a shot at him. He was shot once in each leg. Unfortunately, one bullet hit an artery and he bled out and was not breathing by the time he reached the hospital. He was rushed into surgery and is currently still in critical condition. They said that even if he does survive, there may be loss of limbs and loss of quality of life. I am so sad because he is my age and has a wife and two small babies. He was not robbed and he is definitely not involved with drugs. I can think of no other reason for this crime other than gang initiation. So take from this what you will, but please be careful and always be aware of your surroundings.
Andrea

I believe that if they thought he had a gun in his truck, like my dad does, they may have hesitated in shooting him. Years ago, when we lived in FL, a man walked up to my husband’s car and started harassing him. Our young son was in the car with him. Hubby told him repeatedly to leave, but he banged on the window, tried to open the door, all that good stuff. Finally, when he had a .380 pointed at his forehead, he got the message. Had there been no gun, where might that have gone? I completely agree that just the thought that maybe every law-abiding citizen is carrying and ready to use is one of the best deterrents available.

New Orleans has had a HUGE upswing of illegals since the storm. It’s all you see, all you hear, and all you can stand. I work in insurance, and I deal with the ‘no habla’ type all the time. The ones who have no insurance and end up causing problems for those of us who do. The chatter of spanish in store aisles and almost incomprehensible english at the counter is appalling. The ones who have absolutely no desire to become one with us, but just to use our goodwill and programs. Those are the ones I have a problem with. The ones who have no desire to contribute to our society, but just take what we have to offer. The ones who don’t want the responsibility of being American but who want all the rights, freedoms, liberties, and benefits that being an American comes with. The ones who make themselves victims and then expect us to take care of problems they create themselves. All the whining and crying about ‘shadow people’ is total BS. If you can’t deal with the consequences of a certain action, don’t put yourself in that position. Just like the thief who breaks into a home and gets a beatdown by the homeowner and cries about it. No breaky law, no beaty down.

I want this to stop. I want my tax dollars to stop going to programs to help those who have no desire to contribute back into the system but instead, send their money to another country. I’ve said it before, and I will again in regards to those who say that they do jobs no American will: If I have to pay 2.00 more a pound for steak, and an extra .50 a head for lettuce because you have to pay legal workers, then I’ll have a salad with my T-bone. I know that in the end, the extra money I pay out for those things will come back to me by way of lower taxes, money going to improve America and Americans’lives, and a much lower burden on our programs designed to help those who legitimately qualify for it.

Does this subject make me angry? Yes. Do I sound mean? Probably. Do I care? Nope.

I can’t help but giggle a little after watching that video thinking about those two drunk and high on the couch playing Xbox (bought with dope money) as the flash-bang crashes through the living room window and the SWAT team busts in EVERY glassed opening in the house at that same time. I’ll bet $10 one of those two were crying when it happened.

WHAT!
I believe in the 2nd Amendment!

And I also, believe that reasonable controls can and should be put on them.. Not ANYMORE THAT ALREADY HAVE BEEN..

But, to think, that NO CONTROLS WHAT SO EVER is the solution, is just pretty ridiculous.

Ban me if you want to, Allah, but this is way too close to home for me to be polite about it.

Thats what law enforcement is for.

Chakra Hammer on January 17, 2008 at 10:46 PM

No it’s not. In fact, according to the SCOTUS the police are not required to protect anyone, or for that matter even show up when you call. They are little more than garbage men, they clean up the mess afterwards.

Furthermore I don’t give a rats a$$ how many guns you own, it’s your attitude regarding gun ownership that would profoundly offend our founding fathers and does offend me.

Try and get this FACT clear in your mind. Gun ownership is not a privilege. Our founding fathers considered it not merely a right, but a sacred duty, an obligation that every citizen was under.

You can choose how you exercise your rights, what you cannot choose is whether you have a right. Our founding fathers paid a very dear price to ensure that you had that specific right. Their wording could not have been any more explicit. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

What is a damned shame here is that you have in fact been brainwashed in believing the values of socialism and at the same time deceived into thinking your socialist values are genuine conservative democratic values.

Firearms are secondary only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples liberty teeth. — George Washington

Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion….in private self defense. — John Adams

The constitution shall never be contrued..to prevent the people of the United States who are peacable citizens from keeping their own arms. — Samuel Adams

Horrid miscief would ensue were the law abiding deprived the use of them..the weak will become the prey of the strong. — Thomas Paine

Never trust a government that does not trust it’s own citizens with guns. And the true reason for abolition- Benjamin Franklin

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves from tyranny in government. — Thomas Jefferson

That does NOT mean that I carry a weapon with me everywhere I go, nor do most people want to carry a weapon on their person and you cannot force them to..

Thats what law enforcement is for.

Chakra Hammer on January 17, 2008 at 10:46 PM

That’s why 48 states have concealed carry laws? Because people don’t want to carry them? Oh, wait, you go by appearances. If you don’t see the holsters, you figure the guns aren’t there. Well, just try exercising your constitutionally protected right to open carry. In many places, you’ll be hassled by cops, potentially cited for disorderly conduct or mayhem(an act of terrorism now thanks to the Patriot Act) or another related charge, potentially arrested, and potentially have your weapon confiscated. Oh, and good luck getting it back.

Now why in the world wouldn’t you see more people open carrying, HMMM? Why in the world would concealed carry be so popular, HMMM?

You’re drinking the Kool-aid, pal. However, this doesn’t surprise me with the way you’ve been trolling with old sound bytes about Fred long since debunked.

Let me clue you in on a little fact of history there mister nannystating socialist, a armed society is a polite society. Contrary to what Hollywierd brainwashed you into believing the wild west was a very polite and safe place.

Oh really.. now I’m a brainwashed Hollywood, nanny-stating socialist.. sheesh.. it took me a little while to wade though all the insults on this “Conservative blog”.. LOL

I thought that was the liberals way of debating buy alas, it looks like you have been infected with it as well..

I own guns many of them in fact!
I have no concerns what so ever that Rudy or ANY of the other Republican candidates for that matter what to come and
take them away..

Now, just because I own lots of firearms, rifles, pistols and yes quite of bows.(I’m big into archery)
That does NOT mean that I carry a weapon with me everywhere I go, nor do most people want to carry a weapon on their person and you cannot force them to..

Thats what law enforcement is for.