Quotes of the day
posted at 10:10 pm on January 17, 2008 by Allahpundit
“This primary season, relatively speaking, has just begun. But Fred is now up against the wall. How can we expect him to have done much better than he has to date with everyone prattling on about the overwhelming odds against him? The “experts” continue to be wrong at almost every turn, so why can’t they be wrong about Fred, too? It’s time to quit empowering them by following their dictatorial doom-prophecies. It’s encouraging that John Zogby’s latest South Carolina poll shows that while levels of support for McCain and Huckabee “have remained static,” Fred is starting to move up.
Supporters have asked Fred to step up, and he has — he has shone brilliantly in the last month, setting himself head and shoulders above the pack in many cases. Now it’s time for conservative voters to step up and quit placing artificial limitations on Fred, and on themselves.
Fred has answered the conservatives’ call. Shouldn’t we answer his?”
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“Can there possibly be any reason to think Republicans are settling on a consensus candidate?
Strange as it seems, there is one clearly emerging candidate—he who was declared dead in July: John McCain.”
Blowback
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Depending on events over the next day or two, I say he easily places second. If McCain stumbles, or Huckabee “hucks,” he has a good chance at first.
wccawa on January 17, 2008 at 10:12 PM
Too little, too late, indeed.
David L., why didn’t you endorse him sooner if he is so wonderful?
Just a question.
Too little too late.
Mcguyver on January 17, 2008 at 10:14 PM
You’d think Romney’s win in Michigan would loosen up some of the McCain and Huck voters by making sure the door stays open. Maybe Fred can somehow make himself a strong 2nd to prove his momentum. It seems hard to me though, because Romney is going to turn around and win Nevada, so I’m not sure how much press bump Fred will get without a 1st in SC anyway. We’ll see, I guess.
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 10:18 PM
I am glad David Limbaugh put his stamp on Thompson. Maybe we can assume Rush’s approval as well. I just can’t figure Coulter and Romney though.
Bruce Hendrix on January 17, 2008 at 10:19 PM
I’m telling you…the weather will play a big role in this primary, especialy in the heart of Huck’s strongest area…the Upstate of SC. Snow/sleet will compel but the most die hard voters to vote. Fred’s supporters…at least on here…seem quite die hard!
SouthernGent on January 17, 2008 at 10:19 PM
It’s becoming harder and harder to respect the critical faculties of Our Fellow Americans.
snickelfritz on January 17, 2008 at 10:19 PM
It’s a compelling point, and I hope you’re right.
Prayers for the nation.
wccawa on January 17, 2008 at 10:22 PM
I’m afraid Fred! has to win at lest 3rd in SC or he is toast, and I wonder if 3rd is good enough.
Romney still has the most delegates, and if he wins NV and loses SC he will still ahve the most deligates. McCain may have momentum but if he doesn’t win 1st in SC, his momentum will fade rapidly.
SC is a “must win” for Huck if he wants to regain any momentum.
If I were Rudy, I would be hoping Huck wins and McCain loses SC.
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 10:22 PM
They aren’t really. And Fred! has a very weak organization in SC.
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Time for us Fredheads to fold up the tent, call it a day, and go home perhaps? Yeah, prolly right…as soon as Fred drops out.
AUINSC on January 17, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Wall Street Journal:
The latest bidder is Rudy Giuliani, who last week offered his plan to cut taxes by $6.3 trillion over 10 years. The former New York City mayor wants to cut the corporate income tax rate to 25% from 35%, bringing that rate close to the average of our major trading partners. Mr. Giuliani would chop the capital gains rate to 10% from 15%, and he’d allow capital gains to be indexed for inflation so investors no longer paid tax on phantom gains. He’d also index the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) for inflation, and on top of all this he wants to create a one-page, 11-line tax return that would eliminate most deductions and tax credits and install three lower rates of 10%, 15% and 30%.
Filers would have the option of choosing this “fast form” or the current code with its 13,000 pages of rules. Mr. Giuliani would retain the mortgage and charitable deductions on his alternative tax form, no doubt because he fears their political power. In this sense, his plan is inferior to Fred Thompson’s optional flat tax (two rates: 10% and 25%), which is the simplest and best reform in the field. (See “Flat Tax Fred,” Nov. 28.) But Mr. Giuliani’s ideas are a big improvement that would boost the economy.
Messrs. Thompson and Giuliani are also the best in the field at explaining how taxes affect an economy. They understand incentives and aren’t cowed by Democratic arguments that tax cuts favor only “the rich” and produce deficits. Asked at a recent debate whether tax cuts lead to an increase in tax revenue, Mr. Giuliani responded that some tax cuts do and some don’t. He’s exactly right: Tax credits and rebates, the latest fad, lack the bang for the buck that marginal rate cuts offer.
Meanwhile, Mitt Romney is proposing to expand tax free savings accounts and he speaks vaguely of cutting tax rates. That’s fine with us, though in his typical fashion it seems like the path of least polling resistance. For all of his talk about “changing” Washington, Mr. Romney so far hasn’t offered a tax reform that would reduce the sway of lobbyists and money changers.
funky chicken on January 17, 2008 at 10:26 PM
As long as Fred! is in this race, he has my support 100%. This fight is too important to yield just because others have abandoned their principles.
I would rather lose having principles than win and abandon them.
SimplyKimberly on January 17, 2008 at 10:26 PM
I had just assumed that Romney had come out with something definitive on taxes to get the NR endorsement.
What are all these pundits basing their Romney endorsements on?
funky chicken on January 17, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Then you may wake up in 2009 with President Obama
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Fred lobbied for Lybia
apacalyps on January 17, 2008 at 10:29 PM
This isn’t an issues election. People are endorsing people they relate to. Romney is an East Coast Country Club Republican, he gets endorsements from the same.
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 10:29 PM
yup.
billy on January 17, 2008 at 10:29 PM
If McLiar or Huckasham are the nominee, that is most assuredly going to happen.
And at least with a Dim POTUS, the GOP in Congress with any bit of a spine can fight with both barrels instead of putting up the facade of “party unity” with a liberal like those two.
SimplyKimberly on January 17, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Let me take care of this now.
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Fred! The only conservative choice!
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I don’t understand what’s happened to our party. It’s obvious that Fred is the only conservative, yet he’s behind.
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Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate
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Fred! I’ll vote for him even if I have to write-in his name.
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What did I leave out?
amerpundit on January 17, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Libya
apacalyps on January 17, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Everytime I see Fred at the Debates I stand up and cheer.
Everytime I hear him on a radio talkshow I think “OK…not his best”
Everytime I see his campaign in action or listen to one of his staff I think WTF?!
Somewhere, deep down, all Fredheads must suspect that the fault of the campaign is not just due to MSM bias or bad breaks, but lies instead with the Fred himself.
Go on, let it out, have a good cry. It’s nothing we Rudy supporters haven’t already done, and many of the Mittheads have come to the same conclusion.
All three are great in various contexts but all have let their supporters down. And remember the days of Buchanan, Dole and Alexander and take heart. It could be MUCH worse.
tlclark on January 17, 2008 at 10:33 PM
only Ron Paul can save the republican party now.
lorien1973 on January 17, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Really? Read this:
Election 2008 National Head-to-Head Polls
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Snort. Fred lobbied for labia? Gosh, blush, I guess he’s a straight guy after all.
funky chicken on January 17, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Folks, he’s GOT to win this. We can’t let to liberals like McPain and Huckles… how can we help?
colep on January 17, 2008 at 10:34 PM
On “Meet the Press,” Tim Russert read Thompson the language of the Republican “pro-life” plank and asked Thompson to state his position on it.
Could you run as a candidate on that platform, promising a human life amendment banning all abortions?”
“No,” said Thompson.
“You would not?” said Russert.
“No,” said Thompson.
“Each state would make their own abortion laws?” Russert asked.
“Yeah,” said Thompson.
This man supports a person’s choice to kill little babies.
apacalyps on January 17, 2008 at 10:35 PM
And polls are supposedly so accurate these days?
Since when?
SimplyKimberly on January 17, 2008 at 10:35 PM
bnelson44, who are you supporting?
funky chicken on January 17, 2008 at 10:35 PM
bnelson44 I saw those polls and was cracking up actually. They show the Silky Pony winning against most/all of the republicans.
That’s hilarious, and I think shows that there is a serious flaw in the whole operation.
funky chicken on January 17, 2008 at 10:37 PM
I don’t think Romney likes to get pinned down on the issues any more than absolutely necessary. By speaking in vague generalities he preserves a degree of nimbleness that allows him to bob and weave in response to changes in the polls.
FloatingRock on January 17, 2008 at 10:38 PM
McCain is the consensus candidate of the liberal msm. They will bury him in the general regardless of who he faces from the democrats.
roninacreage on January 17, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Interesting concluding paragraph in the article: So when we survey the Republican field, only one trend stands out unambiguously and uniformly across states: McCain’s rise and emergence as the only candidate doing better and better almost everywhere
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Seems like the perfect opportunity to insert the words that drive AP nuts:
“The dirty secret is it is hard to accurately poll a primary. The unpredictability of who will turn out and what the mix of voters will be makes polling a primary election like reading chicken entrails — ugly, smelly and not very enlightening. Our media culture endows polls — especially exit polls — with scientific precision they simply don’t have.”
-Karl Rove, WSJ
TheBigOldDog on January 17, 2008 at 10:40 PM
apacalyps on January 17, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Ever read a book by Hamilton, Jay, and Madison?
stlpatriot on January 17, 2008 at 10:40 PM
If Fred loses SC, he should back out. Otherwise he will only continue to draw votes from Mitt and allow McAmnesty to slide in.
roninacreage on January 17, 2008 at 10:41 PM
And I would rather win than see all of those principles destroyed by an incoming Democratic president.
synner_man on January 17, 2008 at 10:42 PM
He’s posted twice here and seemingly doesn’t understand either of the things he’s posted about. I’m guessing a Huck voter.
Hey, stlpatriot…what High School’d you go to?
snickelfritz on January 17, 2008 at 10:42 PM
I think you have to ask yourself who is going to crumble when the MSM begins their attacks on the GOP nominee in direct collusion with the Dims? Who will have the strength of principle to stand against that onslaught and be so convincing that they can overcome it?
Are they going to continue to allow Huckascam to crack his cute little jokes and not answer any direct questions on policy or his record?
Are they not going to continue to tout the Maverick over their own candidate – either the Destined One or Obamessiah?
And there isn’t much difference between the snake oil salesman and the guy who wanted to switch parties 4 years ago and the Dims.
SimplyKimberly on January 17, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Fred just hasn’t projected the necessary energy, or the tenacious desire to win, for the VERY hard job ahead.
A good Veep for Romney or Rudy (if Guiliani’s unlikely Florida gambit works a Hail Mary Pass miracle) in the Cheney mold.
McCain can seethe in the Senate and the Huckster can throw more scholarships at illegals in AK.
profitsbeard on January 17, 2008 at 10:42 PM
I’m a Fred / McCain man (McCain stood by my son and his comrades when they needed someone to and all the other Republicans were playing lip service to the mission but were trying to figure out how to get out of it. I don’t expect him to win, but he has my respect and gratitude. I would love to see Fred! win, but he has been a disapointment. I’m not the only Republican who thinks that.)
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 10:42 PM
snickelfritz on January 17, 2008 at 10:42 PM
LMAO
Southwest, in the city… You?
stlpatriot on January 17, 2008 at 10:44 PM
synner_man on January 17, 2008 at 10:42 PM
SimplyKimberly on January 17, 2008 at 10:44 PM
I will believe only one poll and that will be reported one precinct at a time on Saturday night.
Go Fred! GO!
Oink on January 17, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Fred might make a good VP if he pulls out soon. If McCain is beat bad in SC by Huck, he will be limping into FL, and that would be good for Rudy.
Huck is a anomaly in this race, I don’t see him making it past Super Duper Tuesday.
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Right. Like, um, Tancredo. That famous east coast country club Coloradan.
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 10:46 PM
I just am not sure where all the Romney love comes from. Soft on taxes, soft on the 2nd amendment, thinks more foreign aid to muslim nations will stop terrorism, squishy on social con issues in the past, has he made a definitive statement on how much he thinks the military should be increased like Rudy and Fred have done ,etc.
He’s a cipher. Kind of like GW Bush was in 2000 when all the GOP leaders said he was THE one.
funky chicken on January 17, 2008 at 10:47 PM
They have the same support.
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Riverview, North County.
I’ve always wanted to try that question on somebody…
snickelfritz on January 17, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Can you elaborate on this please?
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Cankles lobbied for Mulva..
TheSitRep on January 17, 2008 at 10:52 PM
*snort* I’ll just read your summary and call it a night! That was awesome, and I’m a Fred supporter. But that is indeed how all of these threads go.
Will you summarize some of these 300 comment threads for me, too? I’m a busy homeschooling mom of 3, I really don’t have time to read it all. Too funny!
TX Mom on January 17, 2008 at 10:52 PM
spirit—he has said stuff like this in a couple of the debates. It ranges way to close to “root causes” leftist type ideas for me. It was in the NH debate on 1/5/08 that I saw it most recently. I’ll go look at a transcript and copy an excerpt.
brb
funky chicken on January 17, 2008 at 10:54 PM
I’ve always wanted to try that question on somebody…
snickelfritz on January 17, 2008 at 10:50 PM
lol…. Class of 88
There’s no doubt that is the question for St. Louisians.. and there’s always highway farty-far (US44) :)
stlpatriot on January 17, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Heh. I thought it was Dolores.
sulla on January 17, 2008 at 10:56 PM
David’s right in that it has just begun and the media’s impatience should be ignored.
Go Fred.
Griz on January 17, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Thanks, I’ll wait.
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Ron Paul “Im here to serve Humanity ! Here is my plan”
Outraged Bystander “Its a cook book !”
William Amos on January 17, 2008 at 10:59 PM
MR. ROMNEY: Well, unfortunately, Ron, you need a thorough understanding of what radical jihad is — what the movement is, what its intent is, where it flows from, and the fact is it is trying to bring down, not just us, but it is trying to bring down all moderate Islamic governments, Western governments around the world, as we just saw in Pakistan.
But let’s step back with regards to the president. The president is not arrogant. The president does not subject — or is not subject to a bunker mentality. The president has acted out of his desire to keep America safe, and we owe him a debt of gratitude for keeping this country safe over the last six years.
MR. GIBSON: Let me –
MR. ROMNEY: In addition, let me — let me continue with my own thoughts on — on the issue of do we follow his policy or create a new one.
He did the right thing in responding and reacting to the fact that we got attacked. And people now recognize you attack America and there is a response. But we’re going to have to move our strategy from simply being a respond to military threat with military action to an effort that says we’re going to use our military and non-military resources — non-military resources, combined with other nations who are our friends, to help move the world of Islam towards modernity and moderation. It’s something that former Prime Minister Aznar of Spain spoke about.
The new mission for NATO and for other nations is to help provide the rule of law, education that is not through madrassas, agricultural and economic policies that can be instilled in various Islamic countries so the Muslims are able to reject the extreme and the — and the terrorists.
We can help them. Our military is going to be needed. We do need — I agree with what the mayor said; we need to add to our military by at least 100,000 troops, but the answer is to move now to a second phase, a phase of helping Muslims become so strong they can reject the extreme.
We’ve been trying that with “Palestine” for how long?
funky chicken on January 17, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Super Duper Tuesday is 2.5 weeks away, we will probably know after then who the nominee will be, or the field will be down to 2 people.
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 11:03 PM
We saw how screwed up everything got under the Clinton crime family of the 90′s. NO THANK YOU. Every elephant out there needs to vote in the general so we can avoid another disaster for our country. Duty, honor, country- Not… If I lose I take my toys and go home.
Mojave Mark on January 17, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Romney has suggested that there is a link between poverty and terrorism, and that if we build them schools and provide for the welfare of terrorist states, they will not turn to terrorism.
To the contrary, there have been several studies that show there is no link between poverty and terrorism, and that in reality terrorists are better educated and wealthier than their co-religionists.
FloatingRock on January 17, 2008 at 11:04 PM
All I know is that we’ve got a HuckySchmucky win in Iowa with the liberals in that state and their screwy caucuses, a bunch of Boston liberals pushing McCain in New Hampshire, the twelve people who live in Wyoming voting for Mitt, and Michigan pleading for anyone who has any sort of free market credentials voting again for Mitt.
Mitt’s OK and I can accept him, but Fred’s the better choice in spite of a few knuckleheads in this thread’s assertions.
And Bnelson, if McCain is so proTroops, where was he during his long career when ClintonCorps where slashing the military? Why won’t he let us use rough interrogation tactics that would perhaps unveil people, plots and munitions that are being used to wreak havoc on your son and other of those brave men and women who serve in the war zone? McCain’s only credentials are that he used his power in Congress to undermine a man who wouldn’t kiss his ass. I’m speaking of Donald Rumsfeld, who had the unenviable task of not only rebuilding a decimated military, but having to respond to a direct attack on the country. McCain is a charlatan.
pistolero on January 17, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Which Muslims? Saudi Arabia? UAE?
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 11:05 PM
For those who think it is “too late”:
1. Is there a nominee? No
2. Is there a plurality of delegates committed? No
3. Is there a clear favorite identified? No
4. Has anyone been able to carry momentum from one primary to another? No
Then, let’s conclude that it’s Fred! time.
Captain America on January 17, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Without doubt, yes, we should.
However, a lot of conservatives listen to bull**** about “He can’t win, so don’t bother voting for him.” A lot of conservatives listen to “He sucks at campaigning.” A lot of conservatives listen to “This country is too liberal to elect him.” And so they don’t vote. They don’t send money. They don’t look at what he is proposing, and how it lines up more with conservatives than any other candidate.
Well, Conservatives, you merely have to ask yourself one question: Do you want your country back, or not?
Then quit settling for less, quit making excuses, and back the candidate who represents YOUR views. Stop having to say your candidate “is a conservative, BUT…” Be proud to have a candidate who you can say is a conservative. Be proud to have someone who will stand up for all those things you hold dear about this great nation. And stop worrying about polls and naysayers who keep saying that you should give up and compromise! This republic was founded by people who had all the odds against them, and nobody thought they could win! What would have happened if they had just given up because everyone told them it couldn’t happen? What would have happened if they just compromised with their adversaries?
The same thing will happen if you don’t step up, now, and refuse to settle for anything except conservative principles and common sense.
Fred Thompson needs your vote. No, I’m not a part of his campaign. No, this isn’t benefiting me. I’m saying this because there are a lot of good conservatives out there without hope because they have to settle for amnesty shills, tax raisers, gun grabbers, nanny staters, and big government hacks. There is hope, but only if you have the fortitude to make that hope into a cause. Well, the cause is here.
Now let’s make that cause into a movement that will sweep this nation into a new Golden Age.
MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 11:08 PM
It is not about taking my toys and going home.
I see very little difference between the Dims and either McLiar or Huckascam. They are all liberals.
The only good thing I will say about McCain is that I sort of trust him on the war on terror. But beyond that he is not much use as a “Republican”.
I will not vote for the default candidate merely because they filed as a Republican.
SimplyKimberly on January 17, 2008 at 11:08 PM
5. Does Fred have enough money for FL and Super Duper Tuesday? No.
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 11:09 PM
I’m off to bed…g’night.
Two points: we still have people in Kosovo and Bosnia, and the reports indicate that the muslims there are becoming more radical rather than less
Also, we are now going to have to send more Marines to Afghanistan because our NATO allies aren’t all interested in doing the dangerous stuff.
funky chicken on January 17, 2008 at 11:10 PM
If Fred is on the ballot in Ohio I will vote for him even if he has no chance of winning. I will at least support him in the primaries to give him a chance to build upon that if he choses to run again.
William Amos on January 17, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Thanks!
Your point on Palestine is well-received. But how is what Romney said there different then our policy in Iraq right now to train and strengthen the Iraqis to combat AQI. Or Fred who reproved Huck for his near-sightedness on this issue vis a vis Pakistan?
I don’t know about that agricultural/economic stuff, seems too much like the poverty breeds terror argument, but I do agree about the madrassas. That is, in my opinion, the biggest threat – the propagation of jihad ideology funded by Saudi oil money. If Western Civ is to win the war, we have to combat the ideology and the madrassas are the scource, no?
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 11:15 PM
The last hope! The best hope! For humanity! Save the republic! Take the red pill! Ron Paul!
Hehehe.
lorien1973 on January 17, 2008 at 11:16 PM
It’s Super Duper Mega Fantastic Tuesday.
lorien1973 on January 17, 2008 at 11:16 PM
I call BS.
csdeven on January 17, 2008 at 11:16 PM
I think the specificity is important, no?
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Do you mean something other then what FC cited, ie the attempt to shift the Islamic world to modernity? If so, please cite. If not, what do you suggest?
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 11:17 PM
I don’t think I understand what you are asking. We give aid and arms to all three mentioned there.
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Every time someone does that…
…this becomes more of a myth.
MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 11:18 PM
That’s what is happening though. At least right now. leaders within the Republican Party are separating, mostly, by caste and class. It really isn’t that unusual.
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 11:19 PM
BKennedy.
MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Specifically to those three, but not to all Muslim countries, or at least that is not what Fred! proposes. You pick your friends and allies carefully in this war. Fred! seems to understand that, at least intellectually. I haven’t seen that specificity or detail in Romney. It might be there, I just haven’t seen it.
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 11:21 PM
It’s true the whole process started way too early and with way too many players. Much of my decision is to watch, listen and wait to hear what I’m looking for in a POTUS. So far, that’s been Fred.
I am constantly amazed by so much redefining of conservative values by political pundits and pandering for votes by the other candidates. That say anything mantra routinely turns me off quickly. Even the Smitten Mittens seem more enamored by Mitts looks and somewhat by his accomplishments.
Fred needs to kick it up a notch.
Kini on January 17, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Could the same thing be said when he entered SC? Yes.
AUINSC on January 17, 2008 at 11:23 PM
The excerpt FC posted is sufficient for the sake of argument.
As for what I would suggest—-I would suggest we start with a sober appraisal of reality and then find solutions based on that. To work instead from the false premise that terrorism is linked with poverty, rather than ideology, is simply foolish. It might sound grandiose in a debate but it doesn’t speak well of Romney’s understanding of the problem of Islamic terrorism.
FloatingRock on January 17, 2008 at 11:26 PM
I agree with every word of what you said.
Up until Fred! put out his 17 minute video in Iowa, I wasn’t even sure I was going to vote for anyone running this time.
And Fred! needs to kick it up several notches. His campaign has not been well run at all. I freely admit that fact. But he gets my vote on the issues.
SimplyKimberly on January 17, 2008 at 11:26 PM
It will cost Fred $12million to run one TV ad in all the states having elections on Super Tuesday. That is only for one ad. That doesn’t include polling, get out the vote operations, yard signs, misc. ads in newspapers, state and country organizations, etc. Add to that the fact that FL is in between SC and Super Tuesday, I don’t see a future for him unless he gets 1st place in SC. I could be wrong, but I think it is simply a matter of money.
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Tancredo? And these guys?
Like I said BULL$HIT!
csdeven on January 17, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Sadly, I fear you are right.
SimplyKimberly on January 17, 2008 at 11:31 PM
By the way, my state has the primary Feb 5th and I still only see Ron Paul yard signs (usually posted in illegal places), no one else from either party. We are already voting absentee. Anyone else see that phenomenon too?
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 11:31 PM
I’ll be happy to discuss that, but I don’t’ think he said that. If he did I missed it, and I’ll be happy to criticize it if he did. We know terror isn’t bred of poverty.
However, it is entirely true that organizations like Hezballah, which Mitt recognizes this too astutely I think, purchase a security and popularity among the populace by granting social services. A veritable hearts and minds campaign. If we are going to be a successful ally to Israel, etc, we are going to have to come up with someway to divest these organizations from the populaces in which they take refuge. The same could be said for the Taliban.
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 11:32 PM
As David points out;”Reliable consistent Conservative”,
and the resounding answer is YES!,he needs to be supported.
Fred is a candidate that has,I think no baggage,and if Fred
gets to the convention,which I believe he will,the Liberal
media will have a b!tch of a time trying to tear Fred down.
Don’t forget,it won’t matter if the Republican nominee is
a saint,the Lib media will be working overtime 24/7 to
destroy that conservative,and just look back at all those
temper-tantrums the Liberals threw during President Bush’s
two terms!—They want their power back,whatever it takes!
canopfor on January 17, 2008 at 11:33 PM
I’m in Houston and Ron Paul signs are the only ones I’ve seen as well. Our primary is March 4th.
The latest Paul sign I saw was over 59 – it was spray paint on a piece of white poster board.
SimplyKimberly on January 17, 2008 at 11:33 PM
That, and leadership. I’m giving a larger weight to the leadership.
Kini on January 17, 2008 at 11:35 PM
It all comes down to ‘will he win SC?’ If he does, I don’t see anything you mentioned being an impossible hurdle. If he wins SC, the money will come (as it did in SC). If he doesn’t, then yeah, it’s surely over. Agreed, now the polls say no, he won’t make it. I distrust polls just enough, however, to wait until the final precincts are in.
AUINSC on January 17, 2008 at 11:38 PM
FloatingRock , Spirit of 1776 ,
Romney’s summary on the issue is here:
http://www.mittromney.com/Issues/confronting-radical-jihad
It seems pretty reasonable to me. He proposes a Special Partnership Force and a new Marshall Plan. This is similar to what Thomas P.M. Barnett and his Pentagon/CIA buddies have been proposing only they call it an Administrative Force.
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Maybe yard signs are not an accurate representation of voter senitiment. Just because some rue paul wackos are leaving the basements of their mother’s homes in the dark of night to post some signs doesn’t really mean anything. I’ve not once been convinced to vote for a candidate because of the preponderance of yard signs. How about you?
pistolero on January 17, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Barring McCain converting to Islam, and Huck converting to Catholicism, he won’t win SC. He may come in 3rd if all goes well. He may be able to stay alive to run in FL, but why? He is polling 5th in FL. I think that he has simply run out of time.
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 11:42 PM
I just found it odd enough to comment on. I’m also not seeing very many bumber stickers. More anti-abortion bumber stickers in fact, than candidate stickers. But I have luckily avoided rush hour traffic lately.
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Yup, it’s like one guy and a fax machine.
Kini on January 17, 2008 at 11:45 PM
I would love to agree with you. It would be so easy if—-well—-it were that easy. Unfortunately it’s not. While we’re in the Palestinian territories trying to compete with Hamas by providing services and welfare in the process of buying hearts and minds, they will be torturing and beheading our people and stealing their vehicles to transport terrorists and turn into vehicle bombs.
Sure, idealism is great—-until reality intrudes.
FloatingRock on January 17, 2008 at 11:47 PM
I guess we’re just going to have to wait and see if the intelligent folk of SC can defy the mandate of the intelligensia, who know what’s best for us, of course.
FYI. I have a No RudyMcRomney bumper sticker and a Duncan Hunter bumpersticker for sale if anyone’s interested.
pistolero on January 17, 2008 at 11:50 PM
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