Pro-Huck push poll: McCain supports experiments on unborn children
posted at 4:30 pm on January 17, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Nothing to do with the Huckabee campaign, of course. Just those madcap Huck supporters at TrustHuckabee.com, framing McCain’s support of stem-cell research as tantamount to Nazi-esque vivisections of screaming infants on operating room tables. Can’t wait for the debate in the comments.
Fred’s hammering Huck for the push polls, but to what effect? Two new surveys show him stuck in fourth — Rasmussen, where he’s two points behind Romney for third, and MSNBC, where he’s also two points behind — with less than half the vote total of the frontrunner, McCain, although the fact that Mitt’s evidently preparing to skip SC means there could be a late bleed from him to Thompson. Exit question: Assuming he can’t win the state, what margin would he need as the second-place finisher to limp on to Florida? I don’t think he can win there without a win in SC but his staffers may disagree, so it’s worth thinking about. 3%? 5%?
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HUCKASCHMUCK! HUCKASCHMUCK! HUCKASCHMUCK!
Frozen Tex on January 17, 2008 at 4:32 PM
He needs to win SC. No second. He loses in FL otherwise to Romney and others, who’s in it for the long run.
Vizzini on January 17, 2008 at 4:33 PM
The modern day Pharisee strikes again.
Matthew 7:21-23.
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“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, 10 but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.
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Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?’
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Then I will declare to them solemnly, ‘I never knew you. 11 Depart from me, you evildoers.’
BKennedy on January 17, 2008 at 4:34 PM
Gosh, didn’t Huckster take donations from a diabetes research firm which uses embryonic stem cells? But, wasn’t that also hidden in the front company he uses to hide his tobacco company money?
a capella on January 17, 2008 at 4:36 PM
If there’s any ambiguity at all in the results Saturday night, the numbers Fred will be looking at next will probably be the ones that have “$” not “%” next to them.
CK MacLeod on January 17, 2008 at 4:37 PM
Huckster also took donations from Tyson Foods.
BKennedy on January 17, 2008 at 4:38 PM
With rhetoric like this, Huckabee better hope God is as generous with pardons as the High Reverend was when he was governor of Arkansas.
bert169 on January 17, 2008 at 4:38 PM
This guy really creeps me out. Me thinks he’s a couple pennies short of a dollar, if you know what i mean.
Tyrs Fury on January 17, 2008 at 4:39 PM
He is such a freaking worm!
SimplyKimberly on January 17, 2008 at 4:39 PM
So we have fliers attempting to smear McCain. Push polls against McCain and Thompson. Any word on any underhanded tactics being employed against the Huckster?
Just asking because A) I want to be fair about it and B) I wish to confirm or deny that all of this smear campaigning is coming from one camp.
Just A Grunt on January 17, 2008 at 4:39 PM
He would need 5%. Then he’d have a slim chance at best.
CABE on January 17, 2008 at 4:40 PM
No HaraldHarada coming over here to tout Huck?
snickelfritz on January 17, 2008 at 4:40 PM
Go Huck!
HaraldHardrada on January 17, 2008 at 4:42 PM
shut the Huck up!
lan astaslem on January 17, 2008 at 4:46 PM
As long as I can decide where.
snickelfritz on January 17, 2008 at 4:47 PM
That was clever….awesome wordplay!
HaraldHardrada on January 17, 2008 at 4:47 PM
Aren’t there only 3 Huck supporters on this site? Followed closely by 2 staunch McCain supporters?
CABE on January 17, 2008 at 4:49 PM
Please get the hookster out for the huckster. It really is time for Gomer to leave the stage.
Typhoon on January 17, 2008 at 4:49 PM
Man, there are a lot of Washington power elites on this site.
How’s the not-conspiracy going?
Slublog on January 17, 2008 at 4:50 PM
I know, I was surprised too.
billy on January 17, 2008 at 4:53 PM
And here Huck’s been trying ever so hard to put a stop to it too. If we’re going to jump on Ron Paul for not distancing himself from scum (and I’m perfectly comfortable with that), then there’s no reason not to apply the same standard to the Huckster. How about some public repudiation of these tactics from God’s Chosen Candidate? Anything less is tacit approval.
ReubenJCogburn on January 17, 2008 at 4:53 PM
That’s very rude of you to insult Gomer Pyle, comparing him to Huck and all.
:-)
Heh. Reminds me of:
amerpundit on January 17, 2008 at 4:54 PM
That was about the time he established the Mexican consulate in Little Rock,..lease= one dollar a year. Probably no causal relationship.
a capella on January 17, 2008 at 4:55 PM
I’m not sure he or his staffers agree or not, but I think it would have to be a near tie if it’s not a win. No more than 2%, and preferably less.
Unfortunately it’s looking like he won’t do better than third, and if he does somehow manage to pull off 2nd it would be a relatively distant one.
Beyond that, I just want to see the Huckster lose- even if that means McCain wins (( shudder )).
Hollowpoint on January 17, 2008 at 4:58 PM
I’d be interested to see if HotAir’s resident Hyperactive Chihuahua of Huckabee Fever could weigh in on these base tactics being waged on the part of God’s Own Candidate.
And, if not, and if unable to say one sane, sensible thing regarding that matter, I will become convinced that said individual is either a campaign plant or a leftist pretending to support Huckabee because he knows he would be the weakest GOP candidate, bar none, for the Democrats to defeat.
snickelfritz on January 17, 2008 at 4:58 PM
Wait cant huck stop death ? Or did he make a false promise about that ?
William Amos on January 17, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Ha. Nice thought, but Huckabee seems to be setting a pattern of allowing other people to do the dirty work.
Slublog on January 17, 2008 at 4:59 PM
Huckabee – hits the ground with a thud and is half way to China
Defector01 on January 17, 2008 at 5:00 PM
Campaign to volunteers:…”After Fred’s good performance in South Carolina he will need the funds to compete in Florida ten days later. After that it’s Super Tuesday with 21 races all over the country. You have done so well with the three challenges before. I have complete confidence you will help us achieve another one.”
Seems the red truck needs a little more fuel. Sounds good to me. I get aroused by the smell of burning rubber and exhaust fumes.
http://www.fred08.com
redneck hippie on January 17, 2008 at 5:01 PM
With no money, is the Huckabee camp outsourcing it’s campaign donations to 501(c)4 groups that can essentially campaign for him and collect unlimited amounts of money?
This just may be a stroke of genius.
That tactics of CSI still suck big time.
“McCain-Fiengold-Thompson Act”? Remember that?
gabriel sutherland on January 17, 2008 at 5:03 PM
Mikey the Minister stikes again!
omnipotent on January 17, 2008 at 5:04 PM
I know. I keep trying to figure out if there’s a way to turn my newfound power into cold, hard cash.
Laura on January 17, 2008 at 5:05 PM
I watched a clip from Morning Joe interviewing Jonah, and in the course of it, Mika said, “I really like Huck”. That says it all right there.
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 5:06 PM
Yeah, I know–I probably should have included the words “assuming he’s not a shameless liar and hypocrite” somewhere in there, but then we’re talking about the patron saint of snake oil here.
At least I can dream of a world in which the Huckster wasn’t a disgrace and an embarrassment to all Christians everywhere.
ReubenJCogburn on January 17, 2008 at 5:07 PM
yes I do.
But then again who’s better?
billy on January 17, 2008 at 5:11 PM
So, now it’s a sin to tell the truth about McCain – he is in favor of neo-Nazi experimentation, you know …
corona on January 17, 2008 at 5:12 PM
I think Huck carries a talisman given to him by a grateful illegal immigrant.
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 5:13 PM
…protecting him from such things.
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Related news
Big S on January 17, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Exit question response. Fred got 13.4% in Iowa (3rd place only a few hundred votes ahead of McCain). He got 1.2% in NH (6th place, behind Ron Paul). And he got 3.7% in Michigan (5th place, again behind Ron Paul). To stay viable at the very, very, very least Fred needs to beat Paul and get more than 10% of the vote. Another single digit finish behind Ron Paul would make him a laughing stock. But that kind of bare minimum showing is still pitiful.
Romney keeps talking about Gold and Silver. Fred would be happy for Bronze in SC but there is no medal for 4th. Can Fred limp into FL when his best showing was 3rd in Iowa 4 weeks earlier? I think that’s quite tough.
Vote Sauron 08 on January 17, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Might win over some Paul voters.
snickelfritz on January 17, 2008 at 5:16 PM
let’s remember also, in the anti-Huck fever, that the attack is on target.
Stem-cell research opens the door to experimenting on unborn children.
I don’t like the messenger (who’s trying to weasel his way into the White House) but the message is true.
billy on January 17, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Isn’t it a bit late to be “preparing” to skip the primary? He’s in.
Big S on January 17, 2008 at 5:20 PM
That’s on the Constitutional amendments list, I think.
Yeah, something like, “you go chops ears off and I’ll act like I’m being crucified.”
Dusty on January 17, 2008 at 5:24 PM
First of all…Huckabee is not conducting push polls.
Second.. what is wrong with push polls again?
I wish Huck would do push polls and run negative campaign ads… why not? He’s got the entire establishment media blasting him non stop…desperate to stop him.
Let’s not forget that Ronald Reagan was also and outsider candidate, hated and feared by the establishment republicans…just like Huckabee!
HaraldHardrada on January 17, 2008 at 5:24 PM
I just threw up A LOT in my mouth.
Huckascam is in no way, shape, form or fashion like Reagan.
SimplyKimberly on January 17, 2008 at 5:27 PM
Good news on Rasmussen today. Fred is only down 8 from the lead, is moving up, and has a blockbuster ad placed tonight for the prime newswatching hour.
Optimism is called for and for your funny bone, I offer this:
http://fredthompsonnews.blogspot.com/2008/01/fred-jokes-about-huckabees-push-polls.html
http://www.fred08.com
redneck hippie on January 17, 2008 at 5:28 PM
You know I was surprised by this too. Huckabee IS JUST LIKE REAGAN!
You’re nuts.
billy on January 17, 2008 at 5:28 PM
You’re absolutely right, and I have a great idea for one:
I’m not working for any candidate and I’m not affiliated with a campaign, so everything I say about Huckabee (ever!) is absolutely 100% guaranteed Truth.
Laura on January 17, 2008 at 5:28 PM
It’s illegal in SC you jacka$$.
omnipotent on January 17, 2008 at 5:30 PM
[HaraldHardrada on January 17, 2008 at 5:24 PM]
Rah, I’m from planet nebula … Que pasa?
As for the Reagan defense, that’s like comparing, ah, teflon to flypaper.
Dusty on January 17, 2008 at 5:30 PM
Shadowy groups backing him are.
They’re deliberately deceptive, usually unfair, and not polls at all but smear campaigns. Why would His Holiness not protest at people doing such things in his name?
Oh, you know him, he backs off of them at the last minute, then shows them anyway. Kind of like the girl who thinks she’s still a virgin because she said ‘no’ the first time.
And if he doesn’t disavow what others do in his name, he IS running push polls.
Frankly, if someone did that odious in my name, I’d have their hides.
Show me the negative stories. Go right ahead.
And if Reagan were alive today, he’d drive Huckabee from the party. Huckabee is Carter, not Reagan. How, exactly, is Huckabee at all like Reagan?
Again, it seems you do not understand what Conservatism is.
snickelfritz on January 17, 2008 at 5:33 PM
All this arguing is making me hungry.
Pass the popcorn popper.
sulla on January 17, 2008 at 5:35 PM
Huckabee more like Reagan than any candidate running!
Ronald Reagan’s sincere and very vocal faith was the defining aspect of his presidency.
It was due to his his tremendous faith that we united as a country and defeated the communist russians.
What we need now more than ever is a honest and independent politician who is willing and able to hear and react to the will of God!
We need a uniter that will bring in democrats and independents and conservatives and defeat the leftist Godless democrats!
HaraldHardrada on January 17, 2008 at 5:35 PM
Then Huckleberry should be proud to step up to the plate and admit this is being done with his blessing. Why should he not? See, it’s a bit like many issues,..if the end justifies the means, the whole thing gets a bit tainted. Snipers shooting physicians who perform abortions, or blowing up clinics, comes to mind. Code Pink is another example.
a capella on January 17, 2008 at 5:36 PM
Really? I’m not being snarky. Is it really illegal? Just illegal in SC? Is it a state law? How does that reconcile with the First Amendament? Can’t private political groups call anyone they want and say anything they want (threats and libel aside)? I understand it’s devious and underhanded and sneaky and perhaps even unethical but illegal? Well, if so I don’t like it.
Vote Sauron 08 on January 17, 2008 at 5:36 PM
I think a 600 ship Navy had a little bit to do with the defeat of the G-dless communists
billy on January 17, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Ah the beauty of Reagan was that he was, indeed, sincere. But no measuring stick in the world does Huck match up to Reagan there.
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Harald, I don’t think you’re an investment banker. I think you’re a Kos Kid sent over here to pimp for our weakest candidate.
a capella on January 17, 2008 at 5:39 PM
South Carolina law prohibits automated calls for political purposes with a penalty of 30 days in jail and a $200 fine for each violation.
omnipotent on January 17, 2008 at 5:40 PM
He and/is ChakraHammer(time).
omnipotent on January 17, 2008 at 5:41 PM
Huckabee is nothing like Reagan, to even state so is to be intellectually dishonest. Read Reagan’s 1964 “A Time for Choosing” speech and tell me with a straight face that Huckabee is even in the same universe.
Tyrs Fury on January 17, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Got squirrel?
Laura on January 17, 2008 at 5:42 PM
What?!?
billy on January 17, 2008 at 5:43 PM
I agree. Its either a Kossian or a Huck campaign staffer. Either way, they are both crazy.
SimplyKimberly on January 17, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Wow, that’s a Supreme Court case waiting to happen. So you can have automated calls for other, non-political purposes? And you can have person-to-person calls for any purpose. Just not automated political calls? What’s the rationale? I’m no lawyer but it sounds like Scalia would have a field day with this.
Vote Sauron 08 on January 17, 2008 at 5:44 PM
I think he/she is talking about “the end justifying the means”, and in a negative connotation.
omnipotent on January 17, 2008 at 5:44 PM
a capella on January 17, 2008 at 5:39 PM
I know and you know that you really don’t think I’m a kos kid liberal.
You can call me alot of names but a liberal is not going to stick.
HaraldHardrada on January 17, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Harald, you’re definitely not a conservative if you’re comparing Huckabee to Reagan. What planet are you from?
HebrewToYou on January 17, 2008 at 5:48 PM
He’s in the minority.
Got that?
Scalia is in the minority.
What seems like common sense to you, is crazed right wing fanaticism to our Supreme Court.
billy on January 17, 2008 at 5:48 PM
The other white meat.
sulla on January 17, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Jimmy Carter taught Sunday School, and still might, for all I know…but he still takes time out to kiss the tuckus of all manner of communist/socialist dictator anywhere he can find them. He also aquiesced in the face of evil wherever it opposed this country.
Reagan seldom went to church.
Reagan’s grounding philosophy was ‘That government governs best that governs least.’ This is far and away from any of Huckabee’s positions…at least, until he flip-flopped to new ones recently in the heat of this campaign. Huckabee represents the power of government to rework all manner of things, not to just get out of the way, as Reagan espoused, but for government to get in there, tamper, take over, and make the decisions for things as Huck sees fit. This AIN’T Reagan, and you need to understand how uninformed you are if you think any other way.
snickelfritz on January 17, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Compareing Upchuckabee to Ronald Reagan is like compareing Rosie O’donnel to Margaret Thatcher…
He also thinks that if Fred drops out his support will go to Upchuckabee, LMFAO
It’s like argueing with a chain-link fence..
stlpatriot on January 17, 2008 at 6:02 PM
Huckabee is the anti-Christ.
Igor R. on January 17, 2008 at 6:02 PM
Another big difference between Reagan, Carter and Huckabee:
Jimmy Carter shot a cat.
Huck blocked an investigation of his son for hanging a dog.
Reagan, as far as we know, never killed any pets.
Laura on January 17, 2008 at 6:04 PM
Nope. It was because of Reagan’s deep conservative principles–something Huck wouldn’t understand if it bit him in the behind. Reagan had faith in the spirit of the American people. He had faith in the superiority and rightness of conservatism and free market capitalism as guiding philosophies. He had faith in the Constitution. He also had Christian faith, but he did not attempt to impose it on the nation or the world. He knew how to separate his personal spiritual faith from governing with a sense of moral rightness. Again, something Huckabee does not seem to understand or appreciate.
You can’t be for real.
aero on January 17, 2008 at 6:05 PM
You can call me alot of names but a liberal is not going to stick.
HaraldHardrada on January 17, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Liberal Tool, There, that should stick now…
stlpatriot on January 17, 2008 at 6:05 PM
Huckabee is a monster standing in the way of the only conservative candidate, Fred Thompson. There is nothing good about Huckabee. There is no reason for him to be the President of the United States. He only wants power and doesn’t have anything of value to offer. Wake up before it’s too late!
Igor R. on January 17, 2008 at 6:05 PM
This is exactly the stuff that makes me dislike Huckabee more and more. If it upfront kept quiet about everyone else being negative and trying what appears to be pulling himself off as a good guy that would NEVER do such a thing, it would be different. But there seems to be way too many instances where, whoops I did it again, comes up and he’ll say, wasn’t me.
Conservatives R Us on January 17, 2008 at 6:06 PM
Maybe it’s starting to dawn on you that you’re in the wrong camp.
Just admit that if you were older you would have voted Bush 41 or Dole against Reagan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b2nNwj_gzw
HaraldHardrada on January 17, 2008 at 6:11 PM
Except that they’re illegal? Not much I guess.
Lehosh on January 17, 2008 at 6:12 PM
Huck will do anything to get to power. Why does anyone believe he has good motives? What good has he done as the Governor of Arkansas?
So far he lied, cheated, misstated, and pandered. The only people who are supporting him are devious Democrats and the Jesus-utterance counters. He is evil personified, more than Hillary.
Igor R. on January 17, 2008 at 6:14 PM
I watched that video. I’m shocked, shocked that Huckabee will even stoop so low as to tax seven year olds with lemonade stands. Seriously, he’s going to hell for that one.
Laura on January 17, 2008 at 6:15 PM
Agreed. He is a snake oil salesman if there ever was one.
And based on all the words coming out of his mouth, he knows diddly squat about the 10th amendment.
SimplyKimberly on January 17, 2008 at 6:16 PM
His only skill is to lie. He changed all of his positions other than his “love of Christ” recently. Do what you can to stop this man!
Igor R. on January 17, 2008 at 6:23 PM
Huckabee is going off the rails….
http://www.stephenbainbridge.com/punditry/comments/huckabee_going_off_the_rails/
And GOOD RIDDANCE!
GO FRED GO!!!
ihasurnominashun on January 17, 2008 at 6:23 PM
I love the claim that Huckabee is somehow impeding Fred Thompson’s path, and if he were out of the race, Fred would be able to claim his rightful place atop the Republican Party. I’ve been hearing this more and more over the past few days as Fred supporters begin to digest the fact that he will finish either 3rd or 4th in SC, effectively ending is campaign. I’m thoroughly entertained.
Big S on January 17, 2008 at 6:27 PM
Again, you throw these dismal things out but have no inkling of what you’re dealing with.
Huckabee takes Reagan’s words, inserts his around them. Yet, they do not stand for the same things. You really don’t understand this, do you?
Reagan talked about the greatness of the American people when government stops getting in their way. Huckabee talks about how the government can make Americans great.
Reagan said “Government is not the solution to our problems. Government IS THE PROBLEM,” and that is a quote. How can you reconcile Huckabee to THAT?
snickelfritz on January 17, 2008 at 6:29 PM
Fred needs the Huck supporters but Huck doesn’t need the Fred supporters.
I’m calling a big win for Huck in South Carolina and with the added momentum Huck will go on to win the nomination and defeat hillary by 8%+ in the general election.
You heard it here first folks
HaraldHardrada on January 17, 2008 at 6:31 PM
Glad the death of the conservative movement amuses you so much.
At least some good will come of it; Big S got a good laugh out of seeing the most all-around genuine conservative go down while a liberal evangelical redefines the Republican party. What fun!
aero on January 17, 2008 at 6:34 PM
More meaningless blather.
Unless you can reply to some of the substantial criticisms put forward to you in this and other threads, I’m putting you square in the ‘lefty troll’ category. Or are your positions just that weak?
snickelfritz on January 17, 2008 at 6:36 PM
When did Huck EVER say “big government is good”??
Oh that’s right never. In fact he says completely the opposite, if you just listened to his speeches you’d see.
Go ahead put words in his mouth and demonize him for things he never said.
It’s ok to believe everything the mainstream media tells you.
It doesn’t make you less of an independent thinker.
HaraldHardrada on January 17, 2008 at 6:38 PM
Wishful thinking.
Most of Bainbridge’s complaints apparently are just fine and dandy to the Huckatoons. Wild claims that he can’t possibly deliver? No problem. Huck doesn’t know what the hell he’s even talking about? How Raeganesque! What he’s proposing is effectively a Christian Theocracy? Hosanna!!
I’m convinced he could burn a witch on live TV at this point.
Lehosh on January 17, 2008 at 6:39 PM
I really would like to know where in the hell the principled conservatives are. How on earth is any of this funny to any Republican?
Do they think there will be any success if either McLiar or Huckascam is the nominee? It just will not happen.
Say hello to a Dim President.
SimplyKimberly on January 17, 2008 at 6:42 PM
Full disclosure: I’m a Giuliani supporter, although McCain is a strong second choice for me. Over the past year, I’ve heard so-called “true conservatives” complaining that Giuliani is not a social conservative, and declaring that they could not vote for him even while he was pledging to accommodate them, based on the fact that he’s been married three times or some crap like that. Now, we get the most socially conservative candidate in the field, near the top of the pols and looking strong, with exactly the opposite problem that Giuliani had. Revenge of the Big Tent, my friend. I happen to find it very funny.
Big S on January 17, 2008 at 6:45 PM
You assume that Republican = Conservative. That has never been entirely the case, with conservatives having held a strong majority of the party for only the past 30 years or so.
Big S on January 17, 2008 at 6:47 PM
Wow. Well that convinced me. Bookend Huckabee with a couple audio clips of Reagan and you got yourself a candidate! I assume Huck will choice Paul as VP by that standard. They both agree on ‘arrogant’ foreign policy at least!
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 6:48 PM
Unlike McLiar and Huckascam, I respect Rudy. I think he exhibited enormous leadership in the wake of one of this nation’s greatest tragedies. And I don’t think there would have been anyone better or even equal to that task.
But I want the whole package. I want a pro-life, 10th amendment loving, constitutionally based judicial appointing, border security minded, no amnesty backing Republican.
Can Rudy give me that?
SimplyKimberly on January 17, 2008 at 6:49 PM
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