Huck hucks up again, says he would ban pretty much all political speech unless it’s kid tested and candidate approved
posted at 6:42 pm on January 17, 2008 by Bryan
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Well, no wonder the Huckabee people like McCain so much. When it comes to free speech, they’re both agin’ it.
I personally wish that all of this was outlawed. I think that every candidates should speak for themselves, and that every thing that involves the candidate’s name or another candidate’s name should be authorized and approved by that candidate, otherwise it shouldn’t be spoken….
The point is that candidates can’t force these special interest 527 groups to stop. I wish we could.
The “this” that Huckabee wishes was outlawed is push polling, but he takes the riff much farther than that with the “every thing that involves a candidate’s name…should be approved by the candidate” line. It doesn’t take a Constitutional scholar to see that that would mean the end of the First Amendment, at least in a political context. But since we’re on the McCain-Feingold free speech slip n slide, we might as well just get a good run and dive in head first. At least that’s what Huck seems to think.
But don’t worry. By tomorrow he’ll have signed a pledge promising to protect the First Amendment as his bff. Because he’s tough. And smart. And not winging his entire frakkin campaign at all.
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This guy is a disaster. He must be a Democratic plant.
Mr. Bingley on January 17, 2008 at 6:43 PM
Wow! I hope people are paying attention.
davenp35 on January 17, 2008 at 6:44 PM
Nope! I really don’t think they are. Its sad really.
SimplyKimberly on January 17, 2008 at 6:45 PM
During the early years of our country, a presidential candidate didn’t make any speeches during the primary season. Can we return to that?
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 6:45 PM
HUCKASCHMUCK! HUCKASCHMUCK! HUCKA…. oh, you know the rest.
Frozen Tex on January 17, 2008 at 6:45 PM
Huck “Hucks up” several times a day, but his supporters don’t seem to notice. They just eat up his passive-aggressive “who me?” schtick and drool on his shoes some more. Allah makes fun of Fredheads, but Huckabee supporters are far more mindless and much scarier in my opinion.
aero on January 17, 2008 at 6:46 PM
But, but, but he’s a conservative.
PappaMac on January 17, 2008 at 6:47 PM
Eat your vegetables and say your prayers Huck…come Super Tuesday your ass is gone.
CABE on January 17, 2008 at 6:48 PM
Where’s Harald?
I want to hear how if Reagan were running he’d have said the same thing.
HebrewToYou on January 17, 2008 at 6:49 PM
HEAD ASPLODEY NOW!
BKennedy on January 17, 2008 at 6:49 PM
Uh oh. Huckabee’s son arrested
Free Constitution on January 17, 2008 at 6:50 PM
Is there any major candidate that doesn’t flip flop on major issues? What ever happened to DUNCAN HUNTER!!!???
Troy Rasmussen on January 17, 2008 at 6:50 PM
I have absolutely no doubt in my mind–none whatsoever–that Huckabee knew about and approved these push polls. He probably came up with the idea himself. Somebody must have witnessed Huckabee acknowledging and approving these push polls. Somebody witnessed it, and will either grow a conscience or will get mad at Huck and some point or will just get greedy and sell the story. I just hope it’s not during the general election, after Huck is our nominee.
aero on January 17, 2008 at 6:52 PM
I like what Ace had to say about it:
I’m not sure it would be possible to create a worse candidate then Huck. I guess stomping on the 1st just makes him party to the rest of the crowd: Fred and Mac, but this guy seems to have no core values. Maybe he is a stalking horse for Romney to make Romney look like a man of conviction! Okay, I’m kidding on that last bit; clearly Huck can’t help himself.
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 6:55 PM
Nope. Just a plant. A vegetable – type plant.
uncivilized on January 17, 2008 at 6:55 PM
Is Huckabee’s son mentally challenged? I’m not trying to be cruel or snarky–I’m serious. He claims he didn’t know he had a loaded Glock in his carry-on?! There must be something wrong with the guy. Same one who killed the dog, isn’t he?
aero on January 17, 2008 at 6:55 PM
You should put a warning on posts like this. Advising people to wrap their heads in duct tape to keep them from literally exploding. It would probably reduce a number of messy clean up jobs.
Why is it that our choices this year are all left of center?
Snake307 on January 17, 2008 at 6:56 PM
He’s my least favorite candidate.
Why do’ya think he inspired me to start a blog?
He won the Iowa Caucus with first time voters, who have no memory of Ronald Reagan.
These young’uns were scared on 09/11/2001 and they take to his one liners as if they were fancy colored M&M’s.
http://www.candidateiliketheleast.blogspot.com
Mcguyver on January 17, 2008 at 6:56 PM
God told him to sacrifice his father.
CABE on January 17, 2008 at 6:57 PM
Great. Tomorrow Huck will be talking about our arrogant TSA policy. Besides his son was probably just carrying it to help put some dogs out of their misery. You know, the L’s work.
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 6:58 PM
Um..You guys do know that the byline on that story is April, 2007… don’t you?
ChrisM on January 17, 2008 at 7:00 PM
Yeah, but you don’t understand! Fred-CFR!!! He’s the one!!! Don’t you get it??? HE’LL KILL US ALL! GAME OVER MAN!
MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 7:01 PM
what scares me about Huckabee is that he thinks he’s a conservative but says and does things that are objectively liberal and sometimes (like here and the national smoking ban proposal) borderline fascist. he then has to be pointed out how un-conservative he is, where he promptly changes direction.
locke on January 17, 2008 at 7:01 PM
Nope. Didn’t notice. Thanks for pointing it out.
Why didn’t it make the news at the time, I wonder? Perhaps because Huckabee was a 4th-tier nobody at the time?
aero on January 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM
Why hasn’t the media touched it?!?!?!!! Really pisses me off when the media clearly wants Huck / McCain to win.
CABE on January 17, 2008 at 7:03 PM
Eh. What damage would it do to him for more people to realize that Huck has an idiot for a son? Lots of his supporters probably have idiot children and will empathize. The rest of his supporters are probably somebody’s idiot children.
aero on January 17, 2008 at 7:05 PM
Here’s some anecdotal evidence for y’all to chew on. I talked to 10 people I know in my dear home state of South Carolina. These are everyday, hard-working Americans who don’t obsess over politics or anything, but are aware of what’s going on. Some are evangelicals, some are not.
Romney- 6 votes
Thomspon- 4 votes
They ALL said they would NEVER vote for McCain or Hucky. I promise I didn’t coach them. I just asked who they were voting for, and they volunteered this information. I should point out that 7 of them said they had a hard time choosing between Mitt and Fred and they could possibly change their minds. The important thing is that neither McCain nor Hucky are even being considered! Maybe there is hope!
SouthernGent on January 17, 2008 at 7:05 PM
Don’t worry..he’ll back off as soon as his push polls and focus groups get back to him.
AUINSC on January 17, 2008 at 7:06 PM
For those of you who postulate that the people who are supporting him aren’t paying close attention– how’s this for a scary thought: What if they are?
Security Mom on January 17, 2008 at 7:06 PM
zzz … time for more Japanese robot videos ….
corona on January 17, 2008 at 7:09 PM
Well it’s not like that’s an important context in which to exercise the freedom. This clown is a fascist in a Mr. Roger’s sweater. My standard response to the ‘tards who scream that Bush is a fascist is that if he really were, they’d be arrested for saying it. Well golly gee, good old Huckabee wants to make it illegal. That sounds a bit fascistic to me.
On the bright side, the first syllable of his last name rhymes with a word that fits on t-shirts, so I could make a fortune on cafe press, right up until the gub’ment shuts it down.
trubble on January 17, 2008 at 7:09 PM
My bad, got it from front page Digg.
Free Constitution on January 17, 2008 at 7:09 PM
I pray you’re right.
CABE on January 17, 2008 at 7:09 PM
Promise?
I hope you are better at prognosticating than Pat Robertson and his messed up line to God.
SimplyKimberly on January 17, 2008 at 7:11 PM
Deranged. Brainless. Slimy. How much more can we take from this dullard? What kind of person actually supports this cretin?
Waiting for SuperHarald to swoop down and mangle everybody’s quotes…
thejackal on January 17, 2008 at 7:12 PM
Huck has now been officially relegated to comic relief status. Non factor in the election, non factor in political relevance, non factor in the realm of rational discussion in our society.
Hasta la vista, baby.
peski on January 17, 2008 at 7:12 PM
Since when is ABC not media? But, yes, they do salivate at the thought of Huckabee as the nominee. He’ll be one easy straw man to knock over, no matter who the Dem candidate is.
Laura on January 17, 2008 at 7:14 PM
Can you imagine what the media would do if that was one of Romney’s sons??
Zetterson on January 17, 2008 at 7:14 PM
I wonder if Fred is gonna tear his arms off by Saturday?
wccawa on January 17, 2008 at 7:14 PM
What would Jesus do?
Captain America on January 17, 2008 at 7:15 PM
This is the Huckason who supposedly hung a dog and Mike stepped in to protect him
http://www.newsweek.com/id/78241
As Mike Huckabee gains in the polls, the former Arkansas governor is finding that his record in office is getting more scrutiny. One issue likely to get attention is his handling of a sensitive family matter: allegations that one of his sons was involved in the hanging of a stray dog at a Boy Scout camp in 1998.
William Amos on January 17, 2008 at 7:15 PM
So first Allahpundit accuses Huckabee of approving the push polls then when Huckabee firmly condemns the ads Bryan attacks him for pushing back to hard. You people are funny.
Complete7 on January 17, 2008 at 7:16 PM
Bryan, how about I start calling up random people slandering your reputation because I don’t like your blog posts? Or how about I start firing up rumors and slanted facts just to tear you down without your knowledge? Would you approve of this? If not, then you and Mike Huckabee agree, and you are just being disingenuous.
Nevertheless, be careful not to read too much into his comment without clarification.
popularpolitics on January 17, 2008 at 7:17 PM
Jesus has been avoiding taxes for years. His endorsement probably wouldn’t help anybody.
CABE on January 17, 2008 at 7:19 PM
So. Huckabee is against push polling.
First you accuse him of push polling.. then you find out he didn’t…now you chastise him because he’s against it.
Where do you go from there?
HaraldHardrada on January 17, 2008 at 7:20 PM
Truth hurts doesn’t it. Oh, well, it isn’t like the guy is releasing convicted psychopaths to rape and kill…oh wait…
AUINSC on January 17, 2008 at 7:22 PM
So a Huckabee Wish is now the truth ? Huck didnt say he wouldnt do it he only said he wish he didnt have to.
William Amos on January 17, 2008 at 7:22 PM
That’s not even close to a valid analogy and hopefully you know why. In fact it’s not even a nice try.
Bryan on January 17, 2008 at 7:22 PM
Huck is such a slimy disingenuous tool, Rush is right, if this ratbastard is the nominee, the GOP will crumble.
doubleplusundead on January 17, 2008 at 7:22 PM
Just heard Hugh Hewlett defending Huck on his show.
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 7:23 PM
All the Hucksters come out of the woodwork…
doubleplusundead on January 17, 2008 at 7:23 PM
Complete7, you’re being completely disingenuous.
This is just like his “I’m not going to run negative ads” nonsense, where he went and ran the negative ads anyhow. Huck is a lying, shameless, pandering Pro-Life Democrat. Shame on him.
HebrewToYou on January 17, 2008 at 7:24 PM
Is this some kind of joke? What do expect him to say? Yes I support the activities that have been going on in support of me which are illegal. Of course, he’s going to disavow them. That doesn’t mean anything! It’s just a line for the especially gullible.
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 7:25 PM
It’s easy and cheap for Huck to say, “I condemn push polling” while he continues to benefit from it. As someone claiming to be a Christian, as someone claiming to be honorable, he could EASILY put a stop to it.
If, every time his opponents are push polled on his behalf, Huck released a video reading his opponents rebuttal of the push poll – and told his supporters that he will continue to counteract their push polling this way every time they do it – they’d stop, in a hurry.
But Huck won’t do that, because he’s benefiting from the lies they’re telling on his behalf.
Laura on January 17, 2008 at 7:25 PM
I’d like to point out that push polling is ALREADY illegal in NH and SC.
That, and most of the people funding these push polls are his biggest personal donors and event hosters. And he can’t get them to stop?
Riiiiiiiggghhhtttt.
American-Infidels.com on January 17, 2008 at 7:25 PM
On what grounds? I hope he isn’t just applauding Huck because Huck is focusing in on people other than Romney in his surreptitious manner.
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 7:27 PM
That exact set of circumstances worked for Russ Feingold back in 1998. Short, only-mostly-remembered story from the annals of Wisconsin (hey, give me a break; it was almost 10 years ago, and there isn’t exactly a lot of reference materials I can use from that almost-before-blogging era):
The campaign between Feingold and Mark Neumann (who was giving up his House seat to challenge Feingold) was already rather nasty by the middle of September. Then an outside group came in to really slime Neumann, in direct violation of then-only-proposed McCain-Feingold. Feingold weakly protested the sliming, eventually getting committments from most of the major TV stations to pull the ads. Naturally, a couple of stations kept on running them through the remainder of that group’s buy.
steveegg on January 17, 2008 at 7:27 PM
Mitt wants Huck to hit Mccain to drive his numbers down.
Its a Mitt and Huck alliance.
William Amos on January 17, 2008 at 7:28 PM
Bingo. And he gets to pretend he’s acting lawfully when he’s really perverting the entire primary process. Huckabee and his supporters should be ashamed of themselves. Despicable business.
HebrewToYou on January 17, 2008 at 7:28 PM
Just get more info before jumping to conclusions.
popularpolitics on January 17, 2008 at 7:28 PM
I’d like to point out that push polling is ALREADY illegal in NH and SC.
That, and most of the people funding these push polls are his biggest personal donors and event hosters. And he can’t get them to stop?
Riiiiiiiggghhhtttt.
American-Infidels.com on January 17, 2008 at 7:25 PM
Automatic phone calls are illegal in SC, not sure about push polling per se.
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 7:29 PM
He’s got to be a Democrat.
Griz on January 17, 2008 at 7:29 PM
I am 100% sure his skull is full of mush. Fred will kick the huck out of him in a real debate. Fred is the only choice. GO FRED DO!!!
http://fred08.com
HotAirExpert on January 17, 2008 at 7:30 PM
Cease acting so naive and gullible and you’ll see that this isn’t a jump to conclusions.
HebrewToYou on January 17, 2008 at 7:31 PM
Stop acting childish and degrading. It is very foolish to act like Huck wants to abolish the first amendment based on some preliminary remarks he made.
popularpolitics on January 17, 2008 at 7:33 PM
There you go again. Huck basher. Why do you hate God!
/sarc
ronsfi on January 17, 2008 at 7:33 PM
Just heard Hugh Hewlett defending Huck on his show.
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 7:23 PM
Huh?
Maybe Hugh is starting to realize Huck is going to be our nominee and it’s about time to stop breaking him down.
HaraldHardrada on January 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM
Fredmentum update [Mark Steyn]
Over to you, Peter Robinson. A Fred staffer from one of the primary states he’s lost already writes in to dispute my view that the Thompson campaign lacks an overriding theme and a memorable slogan. This is the view from his state:
Here are some other things missing from the campaign:
1) a finance chair
2) a clear chain of command
3) top-down loyalty
4) a candidate who was willing to campaign for more than 4 hours at day
5) direct mail
6) a college student coordinator
7) a media strategy
Other than that, the campaign had everything.
In New Hampshire, I know of two town chairs for the Fred campaign who wound up voting for other candidates.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTczY2YwZmM5ZTYyN2Y2OTYxZWM0YTA2MWM5YjdkNjA=
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM
MCCAIN & HUCK–
Now there would be a ticket. We could all forget about free speech or free anything for that matter!
woodswalking1 on January 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM
I take it back this numbnuts isn’t MikaJimmie HuckaCarter, he’s HillaMike Huckaton.
He has another stupid liberal trick, idea every second just like every entitled narcissist Democrat ought to.
Speakup on January 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM
I figure he’s just knows that Mitt abandoned SC and he wants to see Huck clobber McCain there.
bnelson44 on January 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM
That’s not the issue. The issue is that Huck is talking out of both sides of his mouth. Forget the 1st Amendment for a second. Some of Huck’s largest donors and most ardent supporters are responsible for these push polls — illegal acts in South Carolina, I might add — and yet he’s unable to stop them?
So he gets to have his cake and eat it, too, simply by condemning the action and then wishing it didn’t have to be this way. HE is the one degrading this primary through his personal attacks — metamucil anyone? — and lack of substance. His supporters are breaking the law and all he has to say is ban the negative ads!
Nonsense. How about Huck just obeys the law and stops being a bloody hypocrite.
HebrewToYou on January 17, 2008 at 7:35 PM
No, it’s a Hugh and Huck alliance.
Spirit of 1776 on January 17, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Grape or Cherry?
ronsfi on January 17, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Right back at ya. What on earth did he mean in that quote? How is it not on its face a wish to do away with basic political criticism of political candidates?
Bryan on January 17, 2008 at 7:37 PM
Good grief. And men like Duncan Hunter are tossed to the curb. What the hell is going on in this country? I used to think most Americans were smart. I really don’t think so anymore.
jewells45 on January 17, 2008 at 7:46 PM
Huck went too far this time. You just don’t say things like that when running for chief executive, and in many cases, chief legislator.
Free Constitution on January 17, 2008 at 7:49 PM
Yeah, I’d say taking away a right to criticize a politician unless he O.K.s it is pushing too hard,..or maybe he really felt that way anyway, before the flyer riff.
a capella on January 17, 2008 at 7:50 PM
Fred needed a Huck boner play right before Saturday, and he got it.
Let’s hope he plays this right. Call it wishful thinking, but these are the kinds of moments primary watchers drool over.
wccawa on January 17, 2008 at 7:51 PM
You do, when you enjoy the same fawning media coverage the Clintons used to get. When you tick of the list of things that have gotten almost no coverage, it’s amazing. Especially when compared to a similar offense by another GOP candidate.
Compare the coverage of Huck’s dog-hanging son to Romney’s dog crate on car roof story, for just one example.
Laura on January 17, 2008 at 7:54 PM
Exactly right, Laura. I am a Fox News fan but even those guys are getting on my damn nerves. Fair and balanced? Not so much.
jewells45 on January 17, 2008 at 7:59 PM
Remember, half the population is on the left side of the bell curve.
imshocked on January 17, 2008 at 8:02 PM
Umm, color me stupid, but I don’t kow what that means.
jewells45 on January 17, 2008 at 8:03 PM
Yep, in spades. Wonder why this is? Just asking a question out loud here. Cuz, the MSM really does want the the GOP to win in November, right?!?
AUINSC on January 17, 2008 at 8:04 PM
I think he’s saying you are on the left side of the bell curve.
AUINSC on January 17, 2008 at 8:04 PM
That’s not what I’m saying at all.
imshocked on January 17, 2008 at 8:09 PM
Did I just get insulted??? Surely not.
jewells45 on January 17, 2008 at 8:12 PM
I’ve been think this for a while. He is from Arkansas. /tin-foil
baldilocks on January 17, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Fox News is basically helping Huckabee stay in the race simply by the fact of giving him so much coverage. This guy is a a socially conservative liberal. Fox is my news outlet of choice but they need to stop with the Huckayuck.
therightwinger on January 17, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Actually, you did not get insulted.
One party incorrectly applied some snark and/or nuance to the comment of another party, then was corrected by the original party in protest. The second party has, to date, not responded to the comment of the first party, thus, you are as pure as the driven snow.
Carry on.
wccawa on January 17, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Ya ok. “I personally wish all of this was outlawed.” That doesn’t square with any pro-freedom-of-speech American. And WTF does killing dogs have to do with the First Amendment?
Free Constitution on January 17, 2008 at 8:18 PM
Not really 8^) I think you know what he meant by the bell curve, so it’s all good.
AUINSC on January 17, 2008 at 8:18 PM
I was responding to your question about how men like Duncan Hunter are tossed to the curb. I did not insult you or anyone else here.
imshocked on January 17, 2008 at 8:19 PM
I was just kidding, but I still don’t know what a bell curve is. I guess I could google it but I figured that someone here would enlighten me.
jewells45 on January 17, 2008 at 8:23 PM
Free, I was responding to the concept that Huck went “too far” with that statement. If someone with less fawning media coverage had said it, he’d be driven down about 10 points in the polls because of relentless media coverage of such a gaffe. Every day would become Huckabee Free Speech Watch day. But this will be swept under the rug for Huck, like it always is.
Laura on January 17, 2008 at 8:24 PM
Very interesting weather forecast for SC Saturday. Snow in the Upstate/Greenville/Spartanburg/Anderson (Huckabee’s strongest area). If his support is weak, who knows! Rain for rest of the state, maybe some snow in the Columbia area. This cannot bode well for McCain if you ask me. This will help Fred, especially if his voters are as rabid at the ones on here. Divine intervention?
SouthernGent on January 17, 2008 at 8:29 PM
Huck gets a free pass because most people don’t know yet what to make of him. Very few recognize him for the abomination that he is. When they consider him, they think; is he of use to me? Or is he not?
Further, they reason; is he something/someone that can be used to further my goals? My candidate? My agenda? Everyone is trying to find the best, most efficient way to use him.
In short, he is the epitome of the word “tool.”
A very blunt tool.
wccawa on January 17, 2008 at 8:34 PM
If Thompson makes a strong 3rd place showing in SC will he stay in?
jewells45 on January 17, 2008 at 8:36 PM
The Huckabees seem to have a problem with gun safety. Didn’t PapaHuck shoot over the heads of some reporters in Iowa?
EJDolbow on January 17, 2008 at 8:37 PM
The Bell Curve.
If someone says that another is on the left side of that curve, they’re saying that he/she is below average intelligence.
baldilocks on January 17, 2008 at 8:38 PM
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