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Video: John Edwards slips that he may not have talked to Musharraf after Bhutto’s assassination

posted at 8:58 am on January 16, 2008 by Bryan
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There may have been a bombshell buried in last night’s Democrat debate. It depends on whether John Edwards misspoke or accidentally let an inconvenient fact slip out.

RUSSERT: Was it appropriate for you to talk to Musharraf at that time, perhaps give him cover at a time when he needed legitimacy?

EDWARDS: It was absolutely appropriate. In fact, I didn’t actually speak…place a call to President Musharraf. I placed a call to the Pakistani ambassador in the United States and told him that I knew Musharraf. We had met in Islamabad years ago and talked about some of the problems in Pakistan at that time.

And it goes on from there to describe the “tough” things Edwards said to the Pakistani ambassador. The debate moved on to other questions, so there was no follow-up on Edwards’ answer from the other candidates or the moderators.

The story of Edwards’ conversation with Musharraf broke on an Iowa radio station on December 27. There was a great deal of head-scratching here and elsewhere when Edwards first started hinting that he’d spoken to Musharraf shortly after Bhutto’s assassination. It made very little sense for Musharraf to take a call from a former senator who stood little chance of winning his party’s nomination, let alone the presidency itself. But here’s the thing. Originally, stories about this had Edwards claiming to have spoken with Musharraf himself, not the Pakistani ambassador to the US, in the US. It became Edwards’ talking point to show that he was the most presidential candidate in the race — in the middle of a crisis, he can just pick up a phone and chat up whoever is in the middle of that crisis. Because that person will pick up the phone if John Edwards is on the other end of the call, of course.

Edwards also detailed his conversation with Pakistan’s President Pervez Musharraf from Thursday in which he told that country’s leader he needs to allow “independent international inspectors into Pakistan to determine the facts of what happened around the former prime minister’s assassination. That kind of transparent process is the only way there’s going to be any credibility.”

That’s from December 28, this ABC story. The above paragraph is how the phone call story was characterized; Edwards never bothered to correct it until last night in Nevada. The story of the phone call itself had broken the prior day, December 27, and Edwards was making the most of it.

John Edwards again told caucusgoers about his phone call with Pervez Musharraf this afternoon, this time taking a bit more critical tone of the Pakistani president.

After reiterating his insistence that Pakistan “continue on this path to democratization with free and open elections,” Edwards expressed some skepticism.

“He assured me he’d do it,” said Edwards. “But we have to hold his feet to the fire because he’s made those kind of promises before.”

This MSNBC story actually got closest to getting it right from the start, with Edwards first calling and then getting called back, but it infers that Edwards called Pakistan, not the Pakistani ambassador in the US, and that he spoke with Musharraf himself.

Edwards spoke in Waukon this afternoon about having calls in to Pakistan’s President Pervez Musharraf. Then, at his second event in Decorah, he told Iowans that he got his call returned.

“He called me,” Edwards said, “because I told the ambassador I’d like to speak to him. I met him a few years ago, which I think I told you earlier, and we had a conversation in which I urged him to continue the democratization process. He told me, he gave me his assurances that he intended to do that, and we also spoke about having international independent investigators allowed into the country for transparency purposes, for credibility purposes, and we spoke briefly about the elections.”

That in mind, go back and watch the clip again. Edwards slips and says he didn’t speak with Musharraf at all, at : 36 into the clip. And Edwards doesn’t say that Musharraf actually called him back. The “he” to whom Edwards refers might well be Musharraf, but might also be the Pakistani ambassador speaking on Musharraf’s behalf, and perhaps not even in any direct response from Musharraf. It could be and now sounds more like a “of course we’ll stay on the path to democracy, now leave us alone so we can deal with the brewing civil war. And who are you again?” response. Or it could be that Edwards misspoke last night, but the rest of his reply seems artfully constructed to gloss over who Edwards was actually talking to after he mentions the ambassador. Unless he can provide some proof or Musharraf steps forward to vouch for the conversation, Edwards’ slip gives reason to doubt that Edwards actually ever spoke with President Musharraf at all.

And if it turns out that Edwards didn’t speak with Musharraf, what do we do with Edwards’ claim that his phone call calmed Pakistan?

(h/t John Ziegler)


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Edwards is a ambulance chaser, what else would you expect???

doriangrey on January 16, 2008 at 9:02 AM

And if it turns out that Edwards didn’t speak with Musharraf, what do we do with Edwards’ claim that his phone call calmed Pakistan?

Telekinesis.

OneGyT on January 16, 2008 at 9:02 AM

Maybe he chanelled Musharraf…yeah, that’s the ticket.

snickelfritz on January 16, 2008 at 9:04 AM

Yet another tall tale from Senator Edwards. He had other tall tales last night. He deflected twice voting for the nuclear waste to be stored in Yucca Flats by saying he is now against it because the “science has changed” and there was “fraud in some documents”. What science is Edwards talking about? There have been changes in the science since he voted for Yucca Flats storage only a few years ago. Nobody on the panel said to him: “Please cite the scientific studies that demonstrate a change in the knowledge of waste storage”. Then he said the documents he relied on in his votes were “fraudulent”. Which documents Mr. Edwards? Nobody asked him that.
Then there was his claim that he was always in fist fights going to school in his mill town to protect himself. Didn’t they have school monitors or police officers in the mill town? He turned himself into a virtual Mike Tyson last
night.

Larraby on January 16, 2008 at 9:08 AM

Let John alone! Can’t you see he would have if he could have? That is what really matters here.

Limerick on January 16, 2008 at 9:10 AM

I can’t believe he would do such a thing…he seems like such a nice young man, pretty hair and all…let’s talk to his neighbors, they will vouch for him.

right2bright on January 16, 2008 at 9:12 AM

He was just channeling.

Hell, he had coffee with Bhutto just this morning.

TheSitRep on January 16, 2008 at 9:13 AM

The Emporer Barbie Doll has no clothes.

RushBaby on January 16, 2008 at 9:14 AM

At 2:11 he does say “What I said to Musharraf is you have to stay on that path.” Still, it doesn’t add up. We’re to believe that this crisis has erupted, his country is in crisis, and either Musharraf knew about this in advance and is managing the aftermath, or didn’t, and is handling the tragedy as best he can.

Regardless, Silky says to the ambassador something like, “Say, I know he really needs a lecture right now and boy, I’m the guy to give it. I’m out on the trail right now but here’s my personal cell number. You have ol’ Mushy give me a call rfn.”

And he did.

Sure. I can see that happening.

Typhoon on January 16, 2008 at 9:17 AM

Whoa – that’s can’t be true, that’s a bombshell because I was left zero doubt about whom he ’spoke too’ at the time after viewing much media.. Insanity.

saus on January 16, 2008 at 9:20 AM

Embellishing a Lie…….

Typical lawyer syndrome…….

I had a roomate who was a lawyer….he would “embellish a lie” over taking out the garbage…..

I’m so glad, BTW, to see the long, sad, tired faces and subdued, tired responses of these LibTurds….

awesum on January 16, 2008 at 9:20 AM

If there are 2 Americas, maybe there are also 2 Pakistans. He spoke to the other one.

Brat on January 16, 2008 at 9:22 AM

Why not? Hillary claims the iraqis read every word she says and they are watching her with rapt attention. But hey their Dems how dare I question their patriotism sanity.

Just A Grunt on January 16, 2008 at 9:24 AM

It’s like living a dystopian novel. Do they even know how flawed and twisted their thinking is?

regal on January 16, 2008 at 9:27 AM

Good catch. I heard him say it yesterday when I was liveblogging, but I wasn’t sure I heard it correctly.

Michelle on January 16, 2008 at 9:28 AM

silky needs a spa day

custer on January 16, 2008 at 9:29 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Being from NC, I’m not surprised. Edwards has a nasty reputation down here, which is why he never ran for reelection after his first and only Senate term. He knew he would lose and lose big.

And who told him an orange tie was appropriate for a debate. Dumb move. Maybe he can be a spokesman for Vidal Sassoon after he drops out next week. I’m sure it pays well.

Gartrip on January 16, 2008 at 9:31 AM

Pathological liar.

someguy on January 16, 2008 at 9:32 AM

His professional – he’s a liar for hire.

jake-the-goose on January 16, 2008 at 9:32 AM

This is so Presidential…like a President loaf, like meatloaf, or Spam, pressed and formed candidates for President, the President loaf.

I didn’t think it was possible to make Kerry and Boreon look Presidential and upstanding, but these chuckleheads are doing a good job at elevating those two nutbags.

benrand on January 16, 2008 at 9:35 AM

Joe Isuzu lives on.

Zorro on January 16, 2008 at 9:42 AM

There are 2 John Edwards. This is the lying one.

faraway on January 16, 2008 at 9:45 AM

I have a real problem with presidential candidates (not even in office) running around meddling in international affairs.

highhopes on January 16, 2008 at 9:47 AM

Oh, man…that is too funny. He effen never called Musharraf — he called the Pakistani Ambassador in Georgetown! Ha! And he’s got people all over the place wondering wtf he’s doing on the phone with Pervie.

What a perfect Democrat. He’s so full of crap…Bryan, was it Allah that said the other day how much he’s going to miss this douche when he drops out? Me, too.

Jaibones on January 16, 2008 at 9:51 AM

i am in no way making fun of her illness since my mother is also a breast cancer survivor. that is something i wouldn’t wish upon anyone. but when you consider what comes out of his mouth i think it’s safe to say we have found the source.

Brass Pair on January 16, 2008 at 9:52 AM

There are 2 John Edwards. This is the lying one.

The other one is the hypocrite.

drunyan8315 on January 16, 2008 at 10:01 AM

Wait…did anyone here actually believe him when he initially said it?

I always thought the concept of him talking to Musharraf would make a good SNL skit, because it’s as ludicrous as it gets.

MadisonConservative on January 16, 2008 at 10:07 AM

You mean he . . . . . . lied?!?!?!?!?!!

ToddonCapeCod on January 16, 2008 at 10:11 AM

Where does he get off, dictating to a foreign leader?
He’s no representative of the US! He doesn’t stand a chance in h*** of getting elected! Where does he get off???

ToddonCapeCod on January 16, 2008 at 10:14 AM

John Edwards at the end of the the clip “That’s the points I wanted to make to him, and….”
Sounds like tale weaving to me.

captivated_dem on January 16, 2008 at 10:16 AM

Sounds like Johnny boy has lost his Sith powers. In other words, he can’t keep track of his lies.

thekingtut on January 16, 2008 at 10:22 AM

Edwards is a LAWYER. He knows all too well the power of hearsay. He also knows that now he is not in a courtroom for another attorney to say ‘I object, hearsay’. Everything he says that Musharraf says is hearsay that can’t be verified and would not be admissible in court.

He knows that. It is word games. Anything he says that someone else said is true until someone calls him on it. Nobody really cares enough to call him on it, but no way has he spoken to Musharraf since he left (was voted out of) government.

Edwards is lying through his teeth because he has nothing to lose.

ThackerAgency on January 16, 2008 at 10:25 AM

Pam Anderson is my girlfriend. Well, we’re really just dating. By “dating” I mean we had this fling. Actually, what I meant to say was I have a picture of her on the wall of my cubical.

Akzed on January 16, 2008 at 10:29 AM

Liar, liar, pants on fire.

Griz on January 16, 2008 at 10:40 AM

Wow, he IS influential. I am so thankful that he got them to get Scotland Yard involved in the investigation. Good job Breck Girl.

cat-scratch on January 16, 2008 at 10:41 AM

Tonight on MSNBC:
John Edwards and Al Franken discuss Lying Liars and the Lying Liars who Lie about the Liars… who Lied.

…or something like that.

Lan Astaslem on January 16, 2008 at 10:50 AM

Insert clip of unhinged Larry ODonell’s “Liar, liar” spew>

thegreatbeast on January 16, 2008 at 10:56 AM

Maybe Edwards actually did call Musharraf, and Musharraf hung up on him.

I would have.

Dave R. on January 16, 2008 at 11:09 AM

[Dave R. on January 16, 2008 at 11:09 AM]

What an empty suit. If I were a reporter, I’d check with the embassy to see if the ambassador even called him back.

Dusty on January 16, 2008 at 11:28 AM

“I have connections – CONNECTIONS, I say.”

franksalterego on January 16, 2008 at 11:48 AM

“If I were president I would do some of what I’ve already done.”

Good Lord

franksalterego on January 16, 2008 at 11:52 AM

It’s like living a dystopian novel. Do they even know how flawed and twisted their thinking is?

What about their supporters? Isn’t it frightening that 40% of the population believes these three empty suits are fit to run the country?

Ann NY on January 16, 2008 at 11:56 AM

You know, I wasn’t going to mention this, but Masharraf called me that same day. Said that some shyster lawyer had been calling all day. He said he was going to ignore him.

d1carter on January 16, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Pakistani ambassador: “Thank you Mr. Edwards, I`ll pass it along to him right way.” (hangs up phone, makes inappropriate hand gesture.)

ThePrez on January 16, 2008 at 1:56 PM

You told Musharraf that he had to stay on a path to democratization baptized in blood…and yet you oppose the war in Iraq?

Tzetzes on January 16, 2008 at 5:30 PM

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