Video: Fred’s newest, and perhaps last, ad in South Carolina

posted at 8:37 pm on January 16, 2008 by Allahpundit

Via STACLU, this is what your donations paid for. He’s laying it all on the table. WYSIWYG.

It’s a huge buy, and why not? There’s nothing to lose.

Update: Compare and contrast. Fred: “It’s not in the United States’ long-term interest to go hat in hand begging people to do things that in the end we know they’re not going to do.”

And, via LGF, Bush:

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wccawa on January 16, 2008 at 9:47 PM

Agreed! I’m a conservative first and a Republican second. I’m tired of voting for 2nd rate candidates. If you want my vote, then you need to get a real conservative to represent me.

Isn’t it amazing how all these candidates kept changing their positions on security, immigration, taxes… until they sounded almost like Thompson.

Why vote for a cheap imitation when you can have the original?

dominigan on January 16, 2008 at 10:55 PM

If McCain, Huck, or Rudy is nominated by the “Republican” party, I get an extra day of vacation in November. I refuse to be a party to a shamnesty next year.

My faith in the republican party is shakey right now. The independent conservative route is looking better and better. Huck, Rudy and Mac are NOT conservative, but are somehow republican, I am not leaving the party, the party is leaving me

HotAirExpert on January 16, 2008 at 11:04 PM

Attention all Conservatives! Please vote for Fred Thompson and let’s reclaim our Grand Old Party!

I am sincerely afraid that anything less will result in the loss of conservatism forevermore.

Oink on January 16, 2008 at 11:13 PM

That picture of Bush and our “real enemy” is disgusting.

paulsur on January 16, 2008 at 11:13 PM

Attention all Conservatives! Please vote for Fred Thompson and let’s reclaim our Grand Old Party!

I am sincerely afraid that anything less will result in the loss of conservatism forevermore.

Oink on January 16, 2008 at 11:13 PM

More arrogant FredHeads. Here’s a tip: It doesn’t make your guy look attractive.

malan89 on January 16, 2008 at 11:22 PM

I am sincerely afraid that anything less will result in the loss of conservatism forevermore.

Oink on January 16, 2008 at 11:13 PM

Oink, we don’t hear enough from you, please say more so we can get to know you. As your welcome gift and in the spirit of friendship and conservatism, I offer you this.

RushBaby on January 16, 2008 at 11:24 PM

Here’s a tip: It doesn’t make your guy look attractive.

malan89 on January 16, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Pot, meet Kettle.

RushBaby on January 16, 2008 at 11:25 PM

No matter what happens in SC, let’s not talk ourselves in accepting President Obama–unless the Republican nominee is as egregious as Huckabee. I don’t like McCain’s attitude about illegal immigrants at all, but there many other issues out there.

thuja on January 16, 2008 at 11:27 PM

Pot, meet Kettle.

RushBaby on January 16, 2008 at 11:25 PM

I don’t question the conservatism of FredHeads like the FredHeads do to us (Romney supporters). The difference between the two candidates is so small that people sharing the same conservative principles are split with who they support.

malan89 on January 16, 2008 at 11:30 PM

If it comes down to either Huckascam or McLiar I am writing in my vote for Fred! I refuse to vote for either of them in any election.

If it comes down to Rudy, I still cannot vote for someone who is really in all actuality the equivalent to McLiar. I respect his leadership in the wake of 9/11, but he is a liberal.

If it comes down to Mitt, I will pull the lever for him. I think he is a decent person and even though he isn’t all that I want, he might be enough to have me cast a “he’s better than a Dim” vote.

If it comes down to Fred! I will run to pull the lever for him. This is what I hope and pray for. He is the one I want to vote for.

SimplyKimberly on January 16, 2008 at 11:39 PM

malan89 on January 16, 2008 at 11:30 PM

I’m a Fredhead and i like Mitt, i have no problem with anyone that supports him, i just feel Fred is a shade more conservative, and i like him…

I would choose Mitt as VP long before anyone else, and would vote for Mitt if Fred wasn’t there.. Nobody else though, thats beyond what i’m about…

Go Fred!!

stlpatriot on January 16, 2008 at 11:42 PM

That sword that Bush is holding looks like the same one used to cut off infidel heads. Hmm.

Go Fred!

Mojave Mark on January 16, 2008 at 11:44 PM

AP, gotta hand it to you. You point quite a contrast between #43 and #44.

You just reminded me why I don’t like compassionate conservatism.

http://www.fred08.com

redneck hippie on January 16, 2008 at 11:50 PM

I don’t question the conservatism of FredHeads like the FredHeads do to us (Romney supporters).

What I was responding to was your ad hominem comment against Oink, whose comment contained not the slightest questioning of Mitt Romney.

The difference between the two candidates is so small that people sharing the same conservative principles are split with who they support.

malan89 on January 16, 2008 at 11:30 PM

I can grok that.

RushBaby on January 16, 2008 at 11:55 PM

Jeez Allah! Thompson down then Bush down and Thompson up. Will you make up your mind already?

I did the right thing. I voted for Fred, and will now be looking for a, ‘Don’t Blame Me I Voted For Fred’ bumper sticker. :oP

DannoJyd on January 17, 2008 at 12:02 AM

That sword that Bush is holding looks like the same one used to cut off infidel heads. Hmm.

Mojave Mark on January 16, 2008 at 11:44 PM

Why would the Saudis give Bush a sword to parade around that DIDN’T slice off the head of an American or two?

I think it’s pretty likely that Bush never watched those videos of his, how does het put it, “religion of peace” believers.

Buddahpundit on January 17, 2008 at 12:07 AM

It’s Fred, or you Repubs can go get bent.

Bank on it.

wccawa on January 16, 2008 at 9:47 PM

I’m with you 110% brother. I have never seen a more loathsome pack of RINOs in my entire life. And most of the suckas here are falling for them hook, line and sinker.

Go get em Fred!!

Jungliszt on January 17, 2008 at 12:26 AM

Just one more thing: Can anyone picture Fred Thompson cavorting around with the Saudi dude?

Nope, I thought not. Vote for Fred.

RushBaby on January 17, 2008 at 12:28 AM

GO FRED GO

Sultry Beauty on January 17, 2008 at 12:34 AM

RushBaby on January 17, 2008 at 12:28 AM

and… GO FRED GO

Sultry Beauty on January 17, 2008 at 12:36 AM

More arrogant FredHeads. Here’s a tip: It doesn’t make your guy look attractive.

malan89 on January 16, 2008 at 11:22 PM

Not at all arrogant. However, more on the exasperation tip. oink’s statement would have to be wholly offensive to warrant an arrogant label.

I don’t think all is lost if Fred drops out. I may be brokenhearted, but optimism drives me. I think for the most part, that is also what pulls me to the FredHeads here. Optimism. They (we) have been the most fun here, and despite the multitude of pot shots, have still found a way to have a good time on these comments.

The digs here to Fredheads have been the most unfounded toward any supporter. Unfounded in which most jabs have been on the superficial side. I have to confess that I initially was drawn to Huckabee, but not for anything else but curiosity, but my pulling towards Fred was out of admiration and the tenacity of him, his wife, and his supporters during this campaign. The affirmation was his record.

Is he conservative? Heck yeah. Is he more conservative than the other candidates? Honestly it’s a dead heat with one other. The rest do not come close.
I switched parties, back in the second Clinton administration, out of college when I realized and finally understood conservatism. Fred reminds me of what enthused me about Republicans. Huck, McCain and bits of Guiliani remind me why I didn’t want to settle for being a moderate.

If I was able to cast a vote, Fred would be my choice now. If not him, the next conservative in the general. [I'm not a criminal, minor, or non-citizen. Where I now reside, we are not able to vote in US mainland elections.]

geckomon on January 17, 2008 at 12:37 AM

Just for record,
I didn’t include Gulianni in my consideration. Before I moved back home, I lived in CT for 13 years. Rudy was not a real favorite of mine for anything in the 90′s. I admired him for 9-11, but that’s about it. It was funny to see the turn around of opinion in the newspapers for Rudy after 9-11. Before, it was one story after another of his personal life’s instability. I can’t see him in anything as big or important as the role of the President of the United States.

geckomon on January 17, 2008 at 12:57 AM

Well put Geckomon. If not this time, I hope Fred pulls a Reagan and wins in 2012.

Mojave Mark on January 17, 2008 at 1:07 AM

I’d love to see Romney as vice-president. That would give him 4-8 more years to build his commitment to conservative principles, and put him in a strong position to run for president.

But he’s not as good a choice for president now as Fred.

It’s probably not fair to accuse Romney of flip-flopping, even if he does remind me sometimes of John Kerry. But he moved very sharply to the right just in time to run for president, and that makes it hard to evaluate whether he really believes in conservative principles or just saw an opportunity.

If he can demonstrate commitment to those principles over a period of time, he’ll be worth voting for. But he waited too long to become a conservative. Doesn’t seem to have the fire in his belly for smaller government, federalism, and a strong national defense.

theregoestheneighborhood on January 17, 2008 at 1:14 AM

It’s Fred, or you Repubs can go get bent.

Bank on it.

wccawa on January 16, 2008 at 9:47 PM

This is an amazing attitude. Fred can’t make any headway with the base of the party and you think he has a better chance in the general than any other candidate?

Where do you guys get these delusions?

csdeven on January 17, 2008 at 1:18 AM

No Rush doesn’t endorse in the primaries, but he has made VERY clear who is NOT conservative. Romney was one of them.

tickleddragon on January 16, 2008 at 9:53 PM

Have you ever even listened to the show? Or do you just hear when people say good things about Fred? Rush has made it clear that Fred is his favorite, but never said (or implied) that Romney “wasn’t conservative”.

malan89 on January 16, 2008 at 10:04 PM

But, Rush did imply that Romney wasn’t a conservative. It was after one of the debates a few weeks ago that Rush said “there was only one conservative on that stage last night” (or words very close to that) and he said that that man was Fred. That means that no one else, including Romney, is a conservative (unfortuneatly).

-Aslan’s Girl (on this side of the wardrobe door…)

Aslans Girl on January 17, 2008 at 1:30 AM

Here’s a tip: It doesn’t make your guy look attractive.

Maybe not.

On the other hand, continually making the absurd claim that Romney’s healthcare plan in Massachusetts isn’t socialized medicine, as if by repeating yourself often enough it’ll become true, doesn’t make your guy look attractive, either.

Here’s a tip: if the plan entails mandates, it’s not a free-market solution.

Centerfire on January 17, 2008 at 1:50 AM

No matter what happens in SC, let’s not talk ourselves in accepting President Obama–unless the Republican nominee is as egregious as Huckabee. I don’t like McCain’s attitude about illegal immigrants at all, but there many other issues out there.

thuja on January 16, 2008 at 11:27 PM

Yeah, issues like McCain’s disdain for free speech (McCain-Feingold), McCain’s opposition to the Bush tax cuts, McCain’s aiding of the Islamo-supremicists by opposing water-boarding, McCain’s support for the enviro-nutjob agenda, McCain’s……..

Yep, other issues there are.

Dave R. on January 17, 2008 at 2:54 AM

Our future darkly…

After a colossal struggle through Tsunami Tuesday the Republican party crowns its nominee-apparent. Senator Clinton, having the support of more super-delegates, barely takes the democratic nomination. But just as the Republicans dare to sigh with relief, believing the general election to be assured, Mayor Bloomberg enters the race under the Unity Party ticket.

With the Republican base divided, and the Unity party pulling in moderate and independent votes, Senator Clinton wins the presidency with barely a plurality. Worse yet, with so many Republican voters dismayed at the nomination process and the eventual nominee, congress falls even further into Democratic control.

The Democratically controlled congress and socialist president begin a campaign of gun control, higher taxes and environmental regulation domestically while retreating from Iraq and Afganistan only to send troops to Darfur.

With America’s withdrawal, Iraq becomes a battlefield for the war of supremacy between the various branches of Islam. Turkey invades Kurdistan, the House of Saud dispatches mercenaries to fight a proxy war with Iran, and Syria (supported by Iran) invades Israel resulting in a nuclear strike against Iranian nuclear facilities.

President Clinton joins the rest of the world in condeming the attack. Without American support, Israel falls to the forces of Islam. Refugees from Israel are turned away from the European Union and sent back to occupied Israel, where the majority are executed for “counter-revolutionary acts” against the new Holy Islamic Republic of Jerusalem.

Meanwhile, America is placed under the ICC and the ICJ opening an avenue for the McDonnel case where Lt. James McDonnel, USMC, and several members of his combat team are charged with and convicted of “war crimes” when he orders his Marines to return fire against radical islamic “militants” during the Darfur “intervention” which inadvertantly leads to the death of a 13 year-old girl who had been employed as a human shield.

Soon after evidence surfaces (thanks to M. Yon) that, in fact, the young woman was killed by three 5.45 x 39mm bullets- and hence not from an American weapon. A grassroots movement demands using whatever means necessary to free the railroaded soldiers, but President Clinton turns over Lt. McDonnel and his men to Brussels in compliance with “international law”. Phone calls and letters ignored, some Americans turn to terrorist tactics (since President Clinton only seems to respond to terrorist demands) which sparks the second American Civil War.

Desperate to maintain control, President Clinton declares martial law and calls upon the United Nations to help her restore order. The UN seizes the opportunity (Britain’s veto power having been disolved when the UK soveriegnty fell under the new EU) and dispatches peacekeeper units from the European Union, Mexico, Venezuela, Russia, China, and Iran to ‘defend’ American industrial centers from terrorist attack.

Peace is not restored. A poorly armed (thanks to ever more restrictive gun control laws) patriot underground fights a losing battle against an ever more powerful UN occupation.

Fearing the rise of a “New America”, Australia and New Zealand are placed under blockaid to prevent English speaking American refugees from fleeing the UN occupation.

No longer threatened by American, British or Australian opposition, the Iranians give up their nuclear weapons research in favor of siezing American made nuclear weapons- with the blessing of the UN.

China become the first nation to establish a permanent human presence in space with the construction of “Heaven’s Tranquility” the first human extraterrestrial city, effectively siezing orbital superiority for the next century.

Iran eventually wins the war of Islamic purity and establishes the new Caliphate over the greater middle east.

Venezuela, with tacit approval from Washington, attacks neighboring states in pursuit of “counter-revolutionaries” eventually establishing it’s self as the dominate power in South/Latin America.

Mexico falls on hard times when the Mexican/American border is finally secured by Iranian dominated UN peacekeepers in their effort to put down the American insurrection.

Russia becomes ever more totalitarian and isolationist after it fails to re-establish a Russian hegemony in the face of the Iranian Caliphate and Chinese cold war.

And though North Korea continued to defy the UN on nuclear research, with the UN under ‘stronger’ management, the North Korean regime (along with their freer southern neighbor) is occupied by UN ‘peacekeepers’ and eventually incorporated into the People’s Repubic of China.

Anybody feeling better about a divided Republican Party?

Browncoatone on January 17, 2008 at 3:07 AM

Browncoatone on January 17, 2008 at 3:07 AM

You need a hug.

geckomon on January 17, 2008 at 3:54 AM

Thompson Is the ONLY real candidate.

Bladerunner1701 on January 17, 2008 at 5:04 AM

I don’t want to say too much against Fred because he’s probably my second choice. But Romney’s been out there for over a year busting his ass for the nomination. And a lot of the time Fred acts like he deserved to be the GOP candidate by acclamation after he announced, because he stars on a TV show.

WasatchMan on January 17, 2008 at 5:28 AM

I will gladly vote for Fred if he makes it to the nomination. In the end, tho, I think it’ll turn into a two-man race between Mitt and Rudy. And either one of them works fine for me too. I’m just waiting for superdupe to cast my vote. Go Mitt!

argos on January 17, 2008 at 8:14 AM

I don’t want to say too much against Fred because he’s probably my second choice. But Romney’s been out there for over a year busting his ass for the nomination. And a lot of the time Fred acts like he deserved to be the GOP candidate by acclamation after he announced, because he stars on a TV show.

WasatchMan on January 17, 2008 at 5:28 AM

Nope, he doesn’t feel that way because he is a tv star, he feels that way because he has seen where this country is going, has heard the people’s cry for someone to try to save this country from hiltery and osama and the left and has tried to answer the call.

I agree he may have entered the race late according to others, it’s actually that everyone else jumped on the bandwagon way to flipping early…..

Charger73 on January 17, 2008 at 8:27 AM

Why in the the hell would the presidents handlers let him get into a photo op like that. Fing A! The Hufftards dont even have to work at it with photos like these. I know its diplomacy but please.

BTW Oil is below $96 with all more supply out on the matket….hmmmmmm. The things you gotta do to keep the price of gas under 3 bucks. Mr. President thank you.

GREENTURTLE on January 17, 2008 at 8:31 AM

It must be Fred. Or Conservatism is dead.
If this country goes down the path to Socialism and becomes Eurabia-lite — let the Demonrats be guilty and the Republican party die. I’m not voting for any more lying RINOs.

SunSword on January 17, 2008 at 8:37 AM

More arrogant FredHeads. Here’s a tip: It doesn’t make your guy look attractive.

malan89 on January 16, 2008 at 11:22 PM

And gun-grabbing, abortion-flipping, and RomneyCare doesn’t make yours look that way.

Fred’s way or the highway!

MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 8:41 AM

I agree with several others here. If Romney is the candidate I will pull the lever but, Fred is my choice. Anyone else and I will write in Fred and watch the Dems trounce the Rino. Maybe after four years of that we will actually get a field of Conservatives to choose from(if they don’t destroy the country in those four short years)!

melachiro on January 17, 2008 at 9:34 AM

And gun-grabbing, abortion-flipping, and RomneyCare doesn’t make yours look that way.

Huck’s a born again Christian..

Romney a “born again conservative”…and just in time for the election as coincidence would have it.

Fred, keep his faith to himself, doesn’t pimp it out.

Fred, has always been a conservative, not just when it just so happens to coincide with an election.

Fred!

RobertInAustin on January 17, 2008 at 9:42 AM

I’m not voting for any more lying RINOs.

SunSword on January 17, 2008 at 8:37 AM

Dittos. I’m tired of holding my nose and voting for “the lesser of two evils.” Enough is enough. If the electorate is so stupid as to vote for someone like McCain I say it’s time the GOP went the way of the Whigs, because they’ve become Dem-lite. It’s Fred for me – I may vote for Romney if he’s the nominee, but the rest can take a hike. I’ll either vote independent or write Fred in.

jdawg on January 17, 2008 at 9:47 AM

Id like to see a Thompsom -Romney or a Romney-Tompson ticket .Though I prefer Fred. I would not vote for Huck or McCain. I would write in.

CaCa on January 17, 2008 at 10:22 AM

Great ad, friends of Fred!

Allahpundit is behind the times, as this ad has been available online for days already.

lorien1973 on January 16, 2008 at 8:48 PM
It ain’t over ’till the fat lady sings.
So which state is the 50th to vote primary?

SoulGlo on January 16, 2008 at 8:44 PM
That would be fun hearing so many voices participating instead of a mere regurgitation of what they’re given by the preconceptual $ monopoly. I would hope that rather than hardening “opinion based on opinion”, voters would remember what actually works for the best, SMALLER GOVERNMENT AND LOWER TAXES.

Everyone should always vote to be heard; at least write in your candidate of choice.

Big S on January 16, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Reference the dictionary/encyclopedia if confused with “conservative”; and reference Fred08.com if yet ignorant of Thompson’s platform. That pimps misapply the word is not the conservative’s fault. That hordes wear the word for the false impression of credibility is not the conservative’s fault, either. That liberals chaffe at the word conservative is their own problem. Get well soon.

malan89 on January 16, 2008 at 8:52 PM
Mitt’s promises for federal interference and more bureaucracy are non-Reaganesque. Mitt’s design to get cross-over Democrat votes (though Mitt’s influence still is motivated by ‘what-we’re-gonna-get-out-of-him’ benefit sell-out/non-Reaganesque) may confuse you to imagine a false likeness that Mitt would faux as Reaganesque. Careful with the Mitt vision-tradition of followers looking at a man and seeing what they want to see instead of what he is. There will be no better time than the present to notice Reagan never promised “work-out” socialism benefits and Mitt does.

tomas on January 16, 2008 at 8:54 PM
So we learn not to repeat the error, and stop “compassionate” liberalism parading for conservative votes no matter the issue. Upholding the rule of law and legal immigration procedures today are paramount for our nation’s survival. As per compassion, charity works best at home at the local level where accountability is transparent regarding accounts receivable and accounts payable, and where the problem resides and visibly either resolves or worsens. As for the rule of law, common law gets revised by every judge. Hence, noting Thompson’s energy toward protecting the Constitution via incoming judicial appointments somehow disturbs a Mitt supporter. You and Spririt of 1776 are incorrect assuming that amnesty was Reagan’s policy; it was Congress’ and Romney allowed it, not as HIS policy, but in concession in order to process what WAS Romney’s policy. Recall compromise. Mitt does more than his share of it, slip sliding around, unconservative moves. Compare Romney’s pledge and program with Mitt’s program of promises; they do not align.

CABE and malan89 on January 16, 2008 at 9:02 PM
You plug your ears and claim that nothing was said. Wake up and do your homework instead of gossip of falsehoods. As per cordial relations, that is how to influence legislative passage through Congress. Fred has friends there; Mitt hasn’t. Fred has the conservative platform; Mitt hasn’t.

Allahpundit’s jaundice still gets the best of him. He can revel with his urinating friends as they lower their credible stature.

Support the conservative strength of America.
Fredmentum!

maverick muse on January 17, 2008 at 10:34 AM

First lemme say, go Fred go!

Second, I have to give a slight admonision to HA running with the media meme that Bush is “begging” the Saudis for anything. The Saudis are extremely interested in getting their arms purchase from us approved. They need spare parts, new planes, training and heavy and small arms.

Bush is in Saudi Arabia, because A)they are our treaty bound allies (regardless of what you think of them, it’s true), B) they have something we want, and C) we have something they want.

Bush isn’t out “begging” the Saudis for anything, he’s negotiating a large arms deal with our ally and leveraging Saudi influence in the price of oil as a part of that deal.

I understand why the media wants to play it this way, I see how easy it is for people to love themselves and their own brilliance in the act of disparaging everything this President does, but from Hot Air I expect a bit more than what a talking head spews shortly after arriving from the makeup room.

I’m sure Allah and Bryan both understand that there’s more to this meeting than discussing just the price of oil. The “begging” accusation is just a little too much.

–Jason

Jason Coleman on January 17, 2008 at 10:54 AM

The problem I have with Mitt is his past performances indicate his ‘principles are flexible’. What he says now is great and the sign of a great politician. What Fred says now is great, is what he has always said, and the sign of a great leader.

Great politician or great leader? You choose.

michaelo on January 17, 2008 at 10:55 AM

Id like to see a Thompsom -Romney or a Romney-Tompson ticket .Though I prefer Fred. I would not vote for Huck or McCain. I would write in.

CaCa on January 17, 2008 at 10:22 AM

Screw Romney. Screw him right in the hair. I want a Thompson / Thompson ticket. Fred for President, Jeri for VP.

And yes, I know it won’t happen.

Hollowpoint on January 17, 2008 at 11:01 AM

maverick muse on January 17, 2008 at 10:34 AM

Where is Fred in the polls today?

csdeven on January 17, 2008 at 11:05 AM

Hollowpoint on January 17, 2008 at 11:01 AM

Dude. Relax. Saturday is 2 days away.

csdeven on January 17, 2008 at 11:05 AM

Hollowpoint on January 17, 2008 at 11:01 AM

I’m fine with Romney in the Veep slot. Just not in the boss slot.

MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 11:06 AM

I’m fine with Romney in the Veep slot. Just not in the boss slot.

MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 11:06 AM

Given that he VP slot is mostly ceremonial anyways I’d be OK with it too… but I can still dream, dammit.

Hollowpoint on January 17, 2008 at 11:23 AM

Where is Fred in the polls today?

csdeven on January 17, 2008 at 11:05 AM

The same place the Republican party is at: doomed.

Hollowpoint on January 17, 2008 at 11:30 AM

After Saturday, are you two going to accept the hard truth about Fred and move on? Or are we going to have to listen to you call everyone idiots for the next 10 months? I mean really, Fred’s a non-issue now and hasn’t earned the right to be pined for over the next 10 months.

csdeven on January 17, 2008 at 11:33 AM

The same place the Republican party is at: doomed.
Hollowpoint on January 17, 2008 at 11:30 AM

Are you quoting national poll numbers to me? You know better than that.

csdeven on January 17, 2008 at 11:34 AM

Where is Fred in the polls today?

csdeven on January 17, 2008 at 11:05 AM

Not that it matters, but better than you think.

I still don’t give any credence to polls, and the discrepancy here reinforces that doubt.

MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 11:41 AM

Fred is so conservative his balls are called Goldwaters

cue more Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris jokes

I wonder what Fredheads will say if Fred drops out and endorses……McCain

that won’t be fun to watch

windansea on January 17, 2008 at 11:41 AM

I wonder what Fredheads will say if Fred drops out and endorses……McCain

that won’t be fun to watch

windansea on January 17, 2008 at 11:41 AM

I’ll say “Wow, did I misjudge you, buddy. **** you, Fred.”

MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 11:43 AM

Are you quoting national poll numbers to me? You know better than that.

csdeven on January 17, 2008 at 11:34 AM

Any conservative who isn’t highly disappointed that Huckster is in the lead nationally with McCain second and Huck leading amongst supposed conservatives simply isn’t paying enough attention.

National polling numbers can legitimately be brushed aside when they are taken months before Super Tuesday, but with less than 3 weeks to go? Not so much.

Hollowpoint on January 17, 2008 at 11:58 AM

I wonder what Fredheads will say if Fred drops out and endorses……McCain

that won’t be fun to watch

windansea on January 17, 2008 at 11:41 AM

Meh; it’s pretty much a given that if he endorses anyone, it’s going to be one of the top 3 front-runners and that means it’s going to be a RINO. Perhaps a RINO pretending to be a conservative for the election, but a RINO nonetheless.

Whether it’s Romney or McCain doesn’t change the fact that I wouldn’t vote for either of them, and I doubt he’d endorse the Huckster.

Hollowpoint on January 17, 2008 at 12:03 PM

csdeven on January 17, 2008 at 11:33 AM

Hollowpoint, MadCon: Why do you let her get under your skin like that? She’s wearing you guys down. Optimism is the key. csdeven is like the devil in Passion, constantly trying to put the seeds of doubt in your minds and having question your path. Don’t give in with sad comments like “The same place the Republican party is at: doomed.” I know, I know Hollowpoint, I’m just an Oddball but being an Oddball can be fun. I often find myself more happy than sad. It’s a trait I find in most conservatives and lacking in most liberals.

Sultry Beauty on January 17, 2008 at 12:15 PM

Sultry Beauty on January 17, 2008 at 12:15 PM

Heh, I’m not worried about the seeds of doubt being sown in my own mind. I do that plenty myself by being very critical of all flaws. I’m more worried about people being swayed on this board by such as csdeven’s comments, although csdeven is pretty even most of the time these days. Folks like BKennedy and tommylotto are more annoying, but less of a threat because they default to insults or simple anti-Fred diatribes.

MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 12:21 PM

MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Then fight the good fight and I’ll have your back to remind you of all the reasons why you have a sound mind and excellently logical conservative choice. You be Maximus and I’ll be your army: “Three weeks from now, I will be harvesting my crops. Imagine where you will be, and it will be so. Hold the line! Stay with me! If you find yourself alone, riding in the green fields with the sun on your face, do not be troubled. For you are in Elysium, and you’re already dead!”

Sultry Beauty on January 17, 2008 at 12:38 PM

Sultry Beauty on January 17, 2008 at 12:38 PM

Wait, so I get an army of you, in Roman-style garb and armor?

…I’m not going to be able to fight. I’ll be busy breaking unwritten rules of conduct.

MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 12:42 PM

MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Ever see 300? I’ll dress like that and when csdeven attacks you, I’ll say, “This will not be over quickly! You will not enjoy this!” I do Tae Kwon Do so I actually know how to swing a sword too…

Sultry Beauty on January 17, 2008 at 12:51 PM

Hollowpoint, MadCon: Why do you let her get under your skin like that? She’s wearing you guys down. Optimism is the key. csdeven is like the devil in Passion, constantly trying to put the seeds of doubt in your minds and having question your path.
Sultry Beauty on January 17, 2008 at 12:15 PM

Trust me- the opinion of csdeven means less than nothing to me. If I’m pessimistic and disappointed, it has nothing to do with him or those like him.

However, there are less than 3 weeks to go till Super Tuesday, the freakin’ Huckster is in the lead nationally with McCain nipping at his heels. SC is Fred’s “firewall” as he put it, and the polling indicates that there just isn’t enough time for him to make a strong enough showing there.

The US survived Carter and two Clinton terms. We’ll continue to survive no matter who wins the nomination or presidency. However I still reserve the right to be highly disappointed and cynical about the current situation. At least for another few weeks anyways.

Oh, and did I mention that the weather forcast here predicts temperatures between -11F and 10F through Wednesday?

But you keep being all happy and optimistic, Little Miss Sunshine.

Hollowpoint on January 17, 2008 at 12:51 PM

Ever see 300? I’ll dress like that and when csdeven attacks you, I’ll say, “This will not be over quickly! You will not enjoy this!” I do Tae Kwon Do so I actually know how to swing a sword too…

Sultry Beauty on January 17, 2008 at 12:51 PM

Exactly my point. Csdeven will attack and I’ll be busy drooling with lust.

I used to do Tae Kwon Do too. Kyuki-Do until ours was one of many dojangs that left the AKF. What’s yours?

MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 1:04 PM

But you keep being all happy and optimistic, Little Miss Sunshine.

Hollowpoint on January 17, 2008 at 12:51 PM

That’s funny, my nickname at work in Sunshine. Lol! Please refer to this comment to MadCon:

Sultry Beauty on January 17, 2008 at 12:38 PM

It applies to you as well.

MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 1:04 PM

ATA! I’m a camo belt right now but my 10 year old son is a 1st degree black belt, mid-termed 3x and should be moving to 2nd degree by the summer. If you keep up the good fight and remain optimistic, I’ll reward you with a link to a YouTube video of my next tournament showing which should be the 1st weekend in Feb. And if Fred wins, I’ll give you guys a link to my stint on Love Connection back when I was 21 years old. It’ll make you laugh or at least smile!

Sultry Beauty on January 17, 2008 at 1:16 PM

And if Fred wins, I’ll give you guys a link to my stint on Love Connection back when I was 21 years old. It’ll make you laugh or at least smile!

Sultry Beauty on January 17, 2008 at 1:16 PM

Friends, Americans, Countrymen, lend me your ears! Never before have we been presented with such an incentive to bring someone to power in this great republic! I call on you now to join me so that we may revel in the utter humiliation of an acquaintance on national television! TO GLORY!

MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 1:22 PM

MadisonConservative 1:22 PM:
“I call on you now to join me…”
MC, how can you think (Fred!) that I, a committed supporter, would compromise my vote (Fred!) just to partake in the humiliation of your acquaintance?

http://www.fred08.com

redneck hippie on January 17, 2008 at 2:02 PM

redneck hippie on January 17, 2008 at 2:02 PM

No no, she’s saying if Fred WINS, she’ll link us! So keep up the good work!

MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 2:11 PM

MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 1:22 PM
redneck hippie on January 17, 2008 at 2:02 PM

This ‘humiliation’ you speak of and a few other sundry early twenties antics are the reason I don’t actually try to run for office myself. Well, that and I drop the F-Bomb and talk like a longshoreman when I get really frustrated. What was the name of that NY city council member? Oddy? Think him dressed like a female, and you’d have a good idea of my personality.

Sultry Beauty on January 17, 2008 at 2:12 PM

Well, that and I drop the F-Bomb and talk like a longshoreman when I get really frustrated. What was the name of that NY city council member? Oddy? Think him dressed like a female, and you’d have a good idea of my personality.

Sultry Beauty on January 17, 2008 at 2:12 PM

You’re only turning me on more, you know…

MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 2:14 PM

If you want to stop csdeven in their tracks…
ask about what is worse, a red-truck or an RV full of kids, saving America (just like our men and women overseas)?
I mean csdeven thinks Jeri is ugly…that says a lot.

right2bright on January 17, 2008 at 2:15 PM

MadisonConservative on January 17, 2008 at 2:14 PM

Hmmm… Interesting.

Sultry Beauty on January 17, 2008 at 2:23 PM

There are only two conservatives in this race (Fred and Mitt). Fred would be better on top of the ticket since he is a bit more consistent with his position and doesn’t deviate. That being said, a Fred/Mitt ticket should be a winner considering the potential opposition. This would also set Mitt up to be the next president. We can only hope and it is probably only hope unless somehow we manage to restrict the ability to vote.

duff65 on January 17, 2008 at 2:28 PM

“it’s not in the United States’ long-term interest to go hat in hand begging people to do things that in the end we know they’re not going to do.”

Well said Fred. I so wish he was doing alot better.

ThePrez on January 17, 2008 at 3:03 PM

I mean csdeven thinks Jeri is ugly…that says a lot. right2bright on January 17, 2008 at 2:15 PM

That’s just wrong on so many levels. I know of no hotter political spouse than Jeri.

Go Jeri!

Mojave Mark on January 17, 2008 at 8:19 PM

…..There are only two conservatives in this race (Fred and Mitt)…..
duff65 on January 17, 2008 at 2:28 PM

That statement proves you don’t quite have the grasp of conservatism.

There ARE two conservatives in the race: Duncan Hunter is an absolutely solid conservative. Fred Thompson is a pretty solid Conservative.

Mitt Romney is a moderate with slightly conservative tendencies in a few areas and a few liberal tendancies in others..

LegendHasIt on January 18, 2008 at 12:14 AM

LegendHasIt on January 18, 2008 at 12:14 AM

Agreed! Duncan is a solid conservative. But he’s turning out to be a politican like any other politican. He can’t possibly win and while he stays in a doesn’t endorse the other conservative, who could clearer use the momentum, he stays in and sanctions us to a brokered or volitale convention. I mean, let’s be serious, the delegates aren’t gonna stand and cheer while McCain is doing this! You know what I mean?

Sultry Beauty on January 18, 2008 at 1:07 PM

I don’t question the conservatism of FredHeads like the FredHeads do to us (Romney supporters). The difference between the two candidates is so small that people sharing the same conservative principles are split with who they support

Hey I have an idea then.. lets don’t split them! Thompson/Romney or Romney/Thhompson, I’m good with either!

kcd on January 18, 2008 at 2:02 PM

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