Bill Clinton says Obama is the “establishment” candidate as Hillary falls into a statistical tie with Obama
posted at 12:50 pm on January 16, 2008 by Bryan
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Bill Clinton was president for 8 years and governor of Arkansas for, what, 12? Hillary Clinton has been a corporate lawyer, first lady of a state and the country, and a senator. You can’t get much more establishment than those two. But because “change” is the meaningless mantra of the year, and because the Clintons are dishonest down to their soulless cores, they’re trying to paint Barack Obama as the “establishment” candidate in Nevada.
After trailing Hillary Clinton by a 2-1 margin in Nevada as recently as November, a poll published this week showed Obama had moved into a virtual tie with her and former Sen. John Edwards.
Buoyed by an endorsement from the largest union in the state, Obama had 32%, Clinton 30% and Edwards 27%, according to the poll conducted for the Reno Gazette-Journal with a margin of error of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points.
Bill Clinton said he talked with many of the 60,000-member Culinary Union’s rank-and-file who intend to ignore the endorsement and vote for his wife.
“In this case the establishment organization is with him and the insurgents are with her,” Clinton said in his speech. He then asked for a show of hands from about 50 precinct captains in the audience and challenged them to stand up to the union’s leadership.
“They think they’re better than you are at identifying and physically getting people to their caucus sites. And I bet they’re wrong,” he said to cheers.
Among the Democratic candidates remaining, Sen. Clinton is the only one “with a record of consistently passing important bills with the support of Republicans,” Bill Clinton said.
You can get dizzy trying to follow most of Bill Clinton’s arguments, but here it boils down to: Even though Hillary has been around forever, so long we’ve all forgotten what the world was like without the Clintons casting their shadow over everything, one union’s endorsement in Nevada makes Obama the “establishment” candidate.
It’s stupid enough to win over thousands of Democrat votes to Hillary.
And in the next state, when Hillary wins some big endorsement there, the Clintons will argue that that makes her the best qualified or most vetted candidate over the rookie Obama.
The problem for the Clinton is they have a deeper problem than shape-shifting over who is and isn’t the “establishment” candidate. Hillary’s race games may have cost her the black vote.
The Michigan primary vote was essentially meaningless: the national party stripped the state of its delegates because it held its contest too early in the election season, and Clinton was the only major Democratic contender whose name appeared on the ballot.
Even so, roughly 70 percent of Michigan’s African-American voters — a group that makes up a quarter of Michigan’s Democratic electorate — did not cast their votes for Clinton, choosing the “uncommitted” option instead. Yet these voters weren’t uncommitted at all: in fact, according to CNN exit polls, they overwhelmingly favored Barack Obama, whose name did not appear on the ballot.
Had Obama’s name been on the Michigan ballot, CNN exit polls show that he would have won an overwhelming 73 percent of the African-American vote, in contrast to 22 percent who say they would have voted for Clinton under those circumstances.
Next up, South Carolina, where half of the Democrat vote is black. And a new Reuters/Zogby poll has Clinton and Obama tied nationally.
Clinton, a former first lady who would be the first woman U.S. president, held a 21-point edge over Obama in October. He cut that to 8 points by last month, and the new survey gave her a 39 percent to 38 percent edge.
And then there’s the Clintons’ peculiar history, which even Mother Jones recognizes is a legitimate problem.
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Shape-shifting… well that’s a change.
AverageJoe on January 16, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Keep it up Bill. We would much rather have you taking shots at him than our side. Desperation time.
libhater on January 16, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Ha Ha and their drones will eat that up.
Uncle Bill has never seen a lie that’s too ridiculous to tell.
TheSitRep on January 16, 2008 at 12:59 PM
People believe this guy? geez.
BlackCapitalist on January 16, 2008 at 1:00 PM
Neither of the Clintons would ever harm a kitty. Especially not Bill.
baldilocks on January 16, 2008 at 1:01 PM
Mother Jones? You certainly have a diverse reading list.
When I saw the headline for this story on Drudge, I laughed out loud. I guess they’ll take this page off their site now, right?
Slublog on January 16, 2008 at 1:02 PM
First truth he’s ever spoken.
Brat on January 16, 2008 at 1:05 PM
Well, it does when your plan of a third term as co-President is quickly going up in smoke. Things must be looking dire when one of the arguments is that there couldn’t possibly be any new mud to sling so the negatives aren’t going to exceed the 60th percentile!
highhopes on January 16, 2008 at 1:10 PM
Shape Shifting?
Only if Lycanthropy is a venereal disease.
trubble on January 16, 2008 at 1:11 PM
Well, Chrissy Matthews is fully in the tank for Obama. That’s kinda establishment.
Pretty much any MSMer who is flogging the race story is on Obama’s side too.
funky chicken on January 16, 2008 at 1:13 PM
He tore up the house last night here in No. California at his Communists for Clinton rally/speech in Davis at the U.C. Davis campus. So plentiful were his disciples that over 3500 were turned away. It was pitiful, the pandering was.
Sometimes I feel like a baby seal at the Louisville Slugger Factory araound here…
Gunslinger on January 16, 2008 at 1:13 PM
The Obama endorsement shows the Culinary Union has decided the Clintons leave a bad taste in your mouth.
No comment from Monica.
fogw on January 16, 2008 at 1:14 PM
This is rich. McCain or Romney, whoever the nominee is, will eat her up in the general.
Baphomet on January 16, 2008 at 1:15 PM
What was that old saying? Something about a pot calling a kettle something?
Clintons HEART Huckabees
Shirotayama on January 16, 2008 at 1:17 PM
Carl Bernstein was on the Imus radio program last Thursday and he stated that Hillary Clinton flunked the District of Columbia bar exam. According to Mr. Bernstein, Madam Clinton managed to cover it up even from the members of the Rose Law Firm down in Arkansas. Yet Hillary Clinton was a staff attorney for the House Impeachment Committee in 1974. Assuming that Bernstein is correct about Hillary flunking the DC bar exam, was she then practicing law without a license when she worked as a staff attorney for the House Impeacement Committee? Perhaps this was the unauthorized practice of law. If the House of Representatives paid her at the rate of a staff attorney, then she was doing something and getting paid for something she was not licensed to do. The MSM had delved into everything George W. Bush did in 1970 but when it comes to Hillary, the MSM is missing in action.
Larraby on January 16, 2008 at 1:19 PM
Heh. Nice one. You didn’t add,… rim shot
a capella on January 16, 2008 at 1:21 PM
Just say he’s The Man.
ackrite55 on January 16, 2008 at 1:25 PM
I think Mr. Bill was governor for 10 years. He had one term of 2 years, lost his re-election bid to Frank White, and then was elected back into the office 2 years after that. He then served 4 consecutive terms, which is 8 years. That’s 10 years in all.
Bigfoot on January 16, 2008 at 1:27 PM
Next up, Bill Clinton says: “Hey. We’re just out here tryin’ to win some votes and not get hassled by the Man.”
scatbug on January 16, 2008 at 1:31 PM
Tee hee!
Somebody caught it.
baldilocks on January 16, 2008 at 1:37 PM
How does he keep a straight face when he talk?……Is he borrowing Kerry`s botox?
ThePrez on January 16, 2008 at 1:39 PM
This is Clintonivellian. They will do anything, say anything, to get themselves elected.
I think that both of them suffer from Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
OhEssYouCowboys on January 16, 2008 at 1:42 PM
Can someone PLEASE get some video posted somewhere of the:
“establishment is with him, insurgents are with her” line
Jason Coleman on January 16, 2008 at 1:59 PM
My question is why is Hill The Shill even allowing Bubba Billy to campaign for her in the first place. Every time this guy so much as parts his gums, her percentage numbers drop deeper down the drain, while Obama’s popularity starts scrapping the base of the stratosphere. If this keeps up, she’ll be referred to as “The FALLBACK Kid”
Not that I’m complaining, of course. (Queue evil laughter)
pilamaye on January 16, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Completely Orwellian.
I’ve now heard everything!
Gartrip on January 16, 2008 at 2:13 PM
Former President William Jefferson Clinton: The Black Guy no one has ever heard of is the establishment candidate.
WTF Mate.
BKennedy on January 16, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Excellent point! Apparently Shrillary admitted to failing the DC Bar in her own autobiography.
From Wikipedia:
So you have really made me wonder about any legal work she did in DC.
Lan Astaslem on January 16, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Mother Jones? You’re much braver then I Bryan!
Capitalist Infidel on January 16, 2008 at 2:34 PM
Heh. Gotta love it. The “insurgents”? ROTFL.
Coming this February, a new TV Show about those who take on the establishment — The Insurgents.
eanax on January 16, 2008 at 2:47 PM
Also coming this February, a sitcom featuring the policies and inept leadership years of the Clintons. – Eight Is Enough
Hening on January 16, 2008 at 2:50 PM
Bill is channeling Yogi Berra: “Hillary is so inside that she’s now outside”
It’s brilliant, really.
Mr. Bingley on January 16, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Bill Clinton is a pimp
you crack us up Willy! Keep awn keepin awn
Drunk Report on January 16, 2008 at 3:04 PM
This is a few weeks old, but here’s an interesting article about Hillary’s ugly past (as an “insider”). Skip the first part and page down to “Hillary as I knew her in 1974.” What’s the saying? A tiger can’t change its stripes?
Lan Astaslem on January 16, 2008 at 3:05 PM
We knew mister Rudolf nose would be showing off his Teflon garters during
hisHill’s campaign for the Whitehouse, not about to disappoint is he?Speakup on January 16, 2008 at 3:08 PM
Shape Shifting?
Is this the X-Files kind or the David Icke variety?
I like the David Icke variety the best.
lol, Clintons trying to paint the other guy as the “establishment” figure
They’re not even trying anymore.
gabriel sutherland on January 16, 2008 at 3:42 PM
A quick visit over to The Daily Kos will reveal that lots of “Progressives” are rabidly anti-Hillary.
Good for them.
Dorvillian on January 16, 2008 at 4:27 PM
I think boink really thinks he is more African-American than Obama.
apostle53 on January 16, 2008 at 4:32 PM
Clintons speak for effect. Veracity is secondary (at best) to getting the intended effect.
If BJ says it often enough, folks will start to believe it… especially if it’s echoed by MSM.
petefrt on January 16, 2008 at 6:21 PM
Bill and Hitlery give me so much material.
If Obama is the establishment candidate and Hitlery claims to be the epitome of the establishment (the main stream), then Obama is their candidate.
MSGTAS on January 17, 2008 at 8:57 AM
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