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	<title>Comments on: Open thread: Michigan results; Update: Fox News, CNN call it for Mitt; Update: 69% of black Dems vote &#8220;uncommitted&#8221;; Update: Mitt beats Huck among evangelicals?</title>
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		<title>By: Michigan Primary: Mitt Wins! &#187; Freedom Folks</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/15/open-thread-michigan-results/comment-page-4/#comment-884536</link>
		<dc:creator>Michigan Primary: Mitt Wins! &#187; Freedom Folks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 05:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: AprilOrit</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/15/open-thread-michigan-results/comment-page-4/#comment-884003</link>
		<dc:creator>AprilOrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 01:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the funniest comment over at Althouse - 2 tower Rudy.  LOL

&lt;blockquote&gt;goesh said... 
2 tower Rudy, that&#039;s what some farmers over there were calling him - they didn&#039;t cotton to a man having fame attached to him over the misfortune of others. Other farmers saw him as some kind of fancy-schmancy New York lawyer unable to navigate through a common cornfield.

9:33 AM  &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the funniest comment over at Althouse &#8211; 2 tower Rudy.  LOL</p>
<blockquote><p>goesh said&#8230;<br />
2 tower Rudy, that&#8217;s what some farmers over there were calling him &#8211; they didn&#8217;t cotton to a man having fame attached to him over the misfortune of others. Other farmers saw him as some kind of fancy-schmancy New York lawyer unable to navigate through a common cornfield.</p>
<p>9:33 AM  </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Gerard</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/15/open-thread-michigan-results/comment-page-4/#comment-883088</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, none of the major Republican candidates-with the exception of Huckabee, and McCain on the issue of detainee interrogations-replicate the soft attitude towards Islam exhibited by President Bush, so the argument that Giuliani&#039;s foreign policy stands are superior to those espoused by his main opponents is a bit of a red herring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, none of the major Republican candidates-with the exception of Huckabee, and McCain on the issue of detainee interrogations-replicate the soft attitude towards Islam exhibited by President Bush, so the argument that Giuliani&#8217;s foreign policy stands are superior to those espoused by his main opponents is a bit of a red herring.</p>
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		<title>By: thirteen28</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/15/open-thread-michigan-results/comment-page-4/#comment-882839</link>
		<dc:creator>thirteen28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;She isn’t the only one, they are all blindsighted by his whole 9/11 schtick.

AprilOrit on January 16, 2008 at 12:52 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Ditto for Mcvain supporters, who have a blind spot for his positions on the issues, focusing solely on his biography.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>She isn’t the only one, they are all blindsighted by his whole 9/11 schtick.</p>
<p>AprilOrit on January 16, 2008 at 12:52 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Ditto for Mcvain supporters, who have a blind spot for his positions on the issues, focusing solely on his biography.</p>
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		<title>By: AprilOrit</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/15/open-thread-michigan-results/comment-page-4/#comment-882596</link>
		<dc:creator>AprilOrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It just strikes me that she has a huge blind spot as far as Giuliani is concerned-I have tons of conservative, anti-illegal friends who share the same sentimentality about his candidacy, but at least a few of them are forthright in conceding his severe limitations as a candidate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

She isn&#039;t the only one, they are all blindsighted by his whole 9/11 schtick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It just strikes me that she has a huge blind spot as far as Giuliani is concerned-I have tons of conservative, anti-illegal friends who share the same sentimentality about his candidacy, but at least a few of them are forthright in conceding his severe limitations as a candidate.</p></blockquote>
<p>She isn&#8217;t the only one, they are all blindsighted by his whole 9/11 schtick.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/15/open-thread-michigan-results/comment-page-4/#comment-882591</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem, as I see it, is that a lot of otherwise reasonable conservatives have a blind spot wider than a 16-wheeler when it comes to him. 

I can understand admiring his incredible achievements while in office-I know what it was like to live here during the ignominious Dinkins reign-and I would get behind any run he made at that arrogant imbecile Elliot Spitzer or lens louse Chuck Schumer, but I simply don&#039;t understand why the Giuliani supporters can&#039;t accept the fact that he has some extreme handicaps when it comes to winning a race for the presidency. 

Anyway, Debbie&#039;s jeremiad seems to be her last contribution to this thread so I guess I&#039;ll have to accept her silence as an answer to my question for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem, as I see it, is that a lot of otherwise reasonable conservatives have a blind spot wider than a 16-wheeler when it comes to him. </p>
<p>I can understand admiring his incredible achievements while in office-I know what it was like to live here during the ignominious Dinkins reign-and I would get behind any run he made at that arrogant imbecile Elliot Spitzer or lens louse Chuck Schumer, but I simply don&#8217;t understand why the Giuliani supporters can&#8217;t accept the fact that he has some extreme handicaps when it comes to winning a race for the presidency. </p>
<p>Anyway, Debbie&#8217;s jeremiad seems to be her last contribution to this thread so I guess I&#8217;ll have to accept her silence as an answer to my question for now.</p>
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		<title>By: Mcguyver</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/15/open-thread-michigan-results/comment-page-4/#comment-882553</link>
		<dc:creator>Mcguyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerard,
This is just a thought... &lt;em&gt;I really don&#039;t know&lt;/em&gt;.. it&#039;s just a thought....    Israel.. bonafied strong defenders for the native land...  i.e., Rudy and McCain?

Huckabee might be, too...  but his pandering rhetoric could end in a disaster on that.

Mitt?

Just some thoughts... I really just don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerard,<br />
This is just a thought&#8230; <em>I really don&#8217;t know</em>.. it&#8217;s just a thought&#8230;.    Israel.. bonafied strong defenders for the native land&#8230;  i.e., Rudy and McCain?</p>
<p>Huckabee might be, too&#8230;  but his pandering rhetoric could end in a disaster on that.</p>
<p>Mitt?</p>
<p>Just some thoughts&#8230; I really just don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/15/open-thread-michigan-results/comment-page-4/#comment-882530</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind the prejudice against McCain-I&#039;m not a huge fan of him as a presidential candidate myself-Huckabee, or any other Republican who doesn&#039;t match the expectations a reasonable conservative would have of a potential GOP nominee. 

Even the critcism of Thompson and Abraham could theoretically be justified-although I think it&#039;s a pretty thin reed to cling to, in all honesty-if she expressed the same disdain for Giuliani, whose views on immigration/illegal aliens diverge from hers much more sharply than those of Romney or Thompson, and certainly more than Hunter&#039;s or Cox&#039;s-I have yet to see her post any blog entries touting their candidacies, which, when you take into consideration her professed views on this subject, would seem to be a perfect match for her.  

It just strikes me that she has a huge blind spot as far as Giuliani is concerned-I have tons of conservative, anti-illegal friends who share the same sentimentality about his candidacy, but at least a few of them are forthright in conceding his severe limitations as a candidate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind the prejudice against McCain-I&#8217;m not a huge fan of him as a presidential candidate myself-Huckabee, or any other Republican who doesn&#8217;t match the expectations a reasonable conservative would have of a potential GOP nominee. </p>
<p>Even the critcism of Thompson and Abraham could theoretically be justified-although I think it&#8217;s a pretty thin reed to cling to, in all honesty-if she expressed the same disdain for Giuliani, whose views on immigration/illegal aliens diverge from hers much more sharply than those of Romney or Thompson, and certainly more than Hunter&#8217;s or Cox&#8217;s-I have yet to see her post any blog entries touting their candidacies, which, when you take into consideration her professed views on this subject, would seem to be a perfect match for her.  </p>
<p>It just strikes me that she has a huge blind spot as far as Giuliani is concerned-I have tons of conservative, anti-illegal friends who share the same sentimentality about his candidacy, but at least a few of them are forthright in conceding his severe limitations as a candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: Mcguyver</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/15/open-thread-michigan-results/comment-page-4/#comment-882514</link>
		<dc:creator>Mcguyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerard,
There&#039;s something else that drives DS&#039;s bias for McCain.  I&#039;m just not sure what it is. 

But it obviously is there.

Perhaps when McCain gets elected to be the &lt;a href=&quot;http://candidateiliketheleast.blogspot.com/2008/01/lets-give-mars-colonization-plan.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;first man on mars&lt;/a&gt;, (and report back to us when the temperature drops about 300 degrees) she will come clean and explain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerard,<br />
There&#8217;s something else that drives DS&#8217;s bias for McCain.  I&#8217;m just not sure what it is. </p>
<p>But it obviously is there.</p>
<p>Perhaps when McCain gets elected to be the <a href="http://candidateiliketheleast.blogspot.com/2008/01/lets-give-mars-colonization-plan.html" rel="nofollow">first man on mars</a>, (and report back to us when the temperature drops about 300 degrees) she will come clean and explain.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/15/open-thread-michigan-results/comment-page-4/#comment-882407</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debbie, you still have yet to offer a satisfactory explanation-or any explanation, to be frank-of how you can reconcile the anti-illegal immigration and anti-Muslim immigration views you hold with support for Rudy Giuliani, a man who supports amnesty-albeit, not the kind preferred by President Bush and Senator McCain-and has shown no willingness to limit immigration from the Middle East, or any other region of the world for that matter. 

You can make a legitimate argument that Steve Forbes should endorse Giuliani-notwithstanding the two men&#039;s disagreements on social issues like abortion-because his priority is fiscal/economic issues. However, I don&#039;t see how you can argue, with a straight face, that someone who is vehemently and consistently opposed to illegal immigration as you have professed to be is in tune politically with Rudy Giuliani, as opposed to Mitt Romney or Fred Thompson. Even if you have a personal distaste for Romney or Thompson supporters that doesn&#039;t explain how you can support a candidate who so consistently and stridently opposes the views you hold on illegal aliens/the border.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie, you still have yet to offer a satisfactory explanation-or any explanation, to be frank-of how you can reconcile the anti-illegal immigration and anti-Muslim immigration views you hold with support for Rudy Giuliani, a man who supports amnesty-albeit, not the kind preferred by President Bush and Senator McCain-and has shown no willingness to limit immigration from the Middle East, or any other region of the world for that matter. </p>
<p>You can make a legitimate argument that Steve Forbes should endorse Giuliani-notwithstanding the two men&#8217;s disagreements on social issues like abortion-because his priority is fiscal/economic issues. However, I don&#8217;t see how you can argue, with a straight face, that someone who is vehemently and consistently opposed to illegal immigration as you have professed to be is in tune politically with Rudy Giuliani, as opposed to Mitt Romney or Fred Thompson. Even if you have a personal distaste for Romney or Thompson supporters that doesn&#8217;t explain how you can support a candidate who so consistently and stridently opposes the views you hold on illegal aliens/the border.</p>
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		<title>By: Mcguyver</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/15/open-thread-michigan-results/comment-page-4/#comment-882396</link>
		<dc:creator>Mcguyver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the the Teflon top spinning match, DS.  

I can&#039;t &lt;em&gt;wait&lt;/em&gt; to hear Medved&#039;s matchup spin.

Well, in fact, I never listen to him. So, someone else will have to be my slave and report back here.

I for one, welcome you all to your new Overlords... the Mittheads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the the Teflon top spinning match, DS.  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t <em>wait</em> to hear Medved&#8217;s matchup spin.</p>
<p>Well, in fact, I never listen to him. So, someone else will have to be my slave and report back here.</p>
<p>I for one, welcome you all to your new Overlords&#8230; the Mittheads.</p>
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		<title>By: AprilOrit</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/15/open-thread-michigan-results/comment-page-4/#comment-882379</link>
		<dc:creator>AprilOrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Copley News Service, December 20, 2001 Thursday 
Issa in media firestorm with &quot;brassy&quot; commentator 
By Joe Cantlupe (excerpts) 
        Rep. Darrell Issa&#039;s battle with a flamboyant conservative Internet columnist who called the Arab-American lawmaker &quot;jihad Darrell&quot; has become a bizarre sideshow to a recent plot to bomb his district office in San Clemente. 
        Issa and his aides said columns written by a Detroit-based lawyer might have inflamed Jewish Defense League officials, who allegedly were targeting the San Diego County lawmaker. 
        One of the suspects, Irving David Rubin, chairman of the JDL, gave copies of the Internet commentaries to an FBI informant, who helped thwart a plot to blow up a Los Angeles mosque and one of Issa&#039;s offices, according to a source familiar with the case. 
        Rubin and a JDL associate, Earl Leslie Krugel, have been held without bail since their arrests on federal charges in California on Dec. 11. They have denied the charges. Initially, authorities contend, the suspects had targeted the mosque but later added Issa as a target after they came across one of the Internet columns written by political commentator Debbie Schlussel, according to Issa. 
      ...Schlussel, in a recent phone interview, was stunned to learn of reports that one of the suspects may have cited one of her columns attacking Issa. She only urged readers to vote against him in the next election, nothing violent, she said. 
        &quot;It was horrible anybody would target (Issa) or anyone else. I condemn it unequivocally,&quot; said Schlussel. &lt;/em&gt;

I tend to believe that stirring the pot never works in these situations.

And why is your article on their &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jdl.org/misc/schussel_fbi.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;page&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Copley News Service, December 20, 2001 Thursday<br />
Issa in media firestorm with &#8220;brassy&#8221; commentator<br />
By Joe Cantlupe (excerpts)<br />
        Rep. Darrell Issa&#8217;s battle with a flamboyant conservative Internet columnist who called the Arab-American lawmaker &#8220;jihad Darrell&#8221; has become a bizarre sideshow to a recent plot to bomb his district office in San Clemente.<br />
        Issa and his aides said columns written by a Detroit-based lawyer might have inflamed Jewish Defense League officials, who allegedly were targeting the San Diego County lawmaker.<br />
        One of the suspects, Irving David Rubin, chairman of the JDL, gave copies of the Internet commentaries to an FBI informant, who helped thwart a plot to blow up a Los Angeles mosque and one of Issa&#8217;s offices, according to a source familiar with the case.<br />
        Rubin and a JDL associate, Earl Leslie Krugel, have been held without bail since their arrests on federal charges in California on Dec. 11. They have denied the charges. Initially, authorities contend, the suspects had targeted the mosque but later added Issa as a target after they came across one of the Internet columns written by political commentator Debbie Schlussel, according to Issa.<br />
      &#8230;Schlussel, in a recent phone interview, was stunned to learn of reports that one of the suspects may have cited one of her columns attacking Issa. She only urged readers to vote against him in the next election, nothing violent, she said.<br />
        &#8220;It was horrible anybody would target (Issa) or anyone else. I condemn it unequivocally,&#8221; said Schlussel. </em></p>
<p>I tend to believe that stirring the pot never works in these situations.</p>
<p>And why is your article on their <a href="http://www.jdl.org/misc/schussel_fbi.shtml" rel="nofollow">page</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: AprilOrit</title>
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		<dc:creator>AprilOrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That you even admit to working for UJA, the far-left Jewish establishment hopelessly allied with Islamists and terrorism supporters, says all we need to know about you. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

A remake that ridiculous and outrageous warrants no futher comment or discussion.  

You are a Far Right bomb thrower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That you even admit to working for UJA, the far-left Jewish establishment hopelessly allied with Islamists and terrorism supporters, says all we need to know about you. </p></blockquote>
<p>A remake that ridiculous and outrageous warrants no futher comment or discussion.  </p>
<p>You are a Far Right bomb thrower.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see how substantive critiques=dislike for you.

I suppose April is on a different page, but most of the other people commenting on this subject simply have a problem with the way you deal with honest disagreements-take this thread, for example-I don&#039;t think they dislike you or your weblog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how substantive critiques=dislike for you.</p>
<p>I suppose April is on a different page, but most of the other people commenting on this subject simply have a problem with the way you deal with honest disagreements-take this thread, for example-I don&#8217;t think they dislike you or your weblog.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie Schlussel</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/15/open-thread-michigan-results/comment-page-4/#comment-882093</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie Schlussel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;She also has supported Meir Kahan and the JDL which is very radical.

AprilOrit on January 16, 2008 at 1:38 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Ahem&lt;/em&gt;.  That is an absolute lie. (And FYI, it is Kahane--get a clue.)  When did I do that?  I never supported the JDL, either.  People who make up things like this need serious help.  The same goes for pretty much the rest of what you wrote.  But for someone who seems to dislike me so much, gee, you sure spend a lot of time obsessed with me (ditto for most of the rest of you making comments about me).  That you even admit to working for UJA, the far-left Jewish establishment hopelessly allied with Islamists and terrorism supporters, says all we need to know about you.  

As for my predictions about Michigan, I&#039;ve addressed them on my site, which you seem to visit quite a bit, so I&#039;ll let you read them, as you read all of my other work you claim to detest so much but can&#039;t seem to get enough of.  

Oh, and one other thing, Monica Crowley is a known, documented plagiarist--I provided the links on my site to former Wall Street Journal investigative reporter Tim Noah&#039;s two exposes (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/1003470/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/1003470/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) on her, as you well know.  That&#039;s why the Wall Street Journal had to run an apology when it ran the piece she ripped off from writer Paul Johnson and won&#039;t run her work again.  Please explain how she is different than Jayson Blair--other than having gotten away with it and being a &quot;conservative&quot;.  Jerome Corsi admitted that he read and ripped off a column I wrote.  I &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2006/02/swift_boat_auth.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;documented how it was almost word for word&lt;/a&gt;.  Not sure where you went to school, but that is, indeed, plagiarism.  Ideology does not excuse intellectual property crimes, does it?  If ever anyone rips off your work--and, trust me, that will never happen, since you simply lie and fabricate--then, we shall see how you like it.  Or at least you shall see.  No-one else will care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>She also has supported Meir Kahan and the JDL which is very radical.</p>
<p>AprilOrit on January 16, 2008 at 1:38 AM</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Ahem</em>.  That is an absolute lie. (And FYI, it is Kahane&#8211;get a clue.)  When did I do that?  I never supported the JDL, either.  People who make up things like this need serious help.  The same goes for pretty much the rest of what you wrote.  But for someone who seems to dislike me so much, gee, you sure spend a lot of time obsessed with me (ditto for most of the rest of you making comments about me).  That you even admit to working for UJA, the far-left Jewish establishment hopelessly allied with Islamists and terrorism supporters, says all we need to know about you.  </p>
<p>As for my predictions about Michigan, I&#8217;ve addressed them on my site, which you seem to visit quite a bit, so I&#8217;ll let you read them, as you read all of my other work you claim to detest so much but can&#8217;t seem to get enough of.  </p>
<p>Oh, and one other thing, Monica Crowley is a known, documented plagiarist&#8211;I provided the links on my site to former Wall Street Journal investigative reporter Tim Noah&#8217;s two exposes (<a href="http://www.slate.com/id/1003470/" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/1003470/" rel="nofollow">here</a>) on her, as you well know.  That&#8217;s why the Wall Street Journal had to run an apology when it ran the piece she ripped off from writer Paul Johnson and won&#8217;t run her work again.  Please explain how she is different than Jayson Blair&#8211;other than having gotten away with it and being a &#8220;conservative&#8221;.  Jerome Corsi admitted that he read and ripped off a column I wrote.  I <a href="http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2006/02/swift_boat_auth.html" rel="nofollow">documented how it was almost word for word</a>.  Not sure where you went to school, but that is, indeed, plagiarism.  Ideology does not excuse intellectual property crimes, does it?  If ever anyone rips off your work&#8211;and, trust me, that will never happen, since you simply lie and fabricate&#8211;then, we shall see how you like it.  Or at least you shall see.  No-one else will care.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freedmen were victimized by both the government and individuals in postbellum America, but I don&#039;t see how that equates to giving reparations to people who were victims of a specific injustice when the perpetrators still exist. 

There have been public apologies extended to African-Americans who were directly impacted by racist violence, e.g. those who were attacked in the Tulsa riots, but extending that to people whose ancestors were exploited is absurd, IMO. 

A more apt analogy would be the federal government, through a congressional resolution, ultimately recognizing the egregious error of the Korematsu decision during the 1980s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freedmen were victimized by both the government and individuals in postbellum America, but I don&#8217;t see how that equates to giving reparations to people who were victims of a specific injustice when the perpetrators still exist. </p>
<p>There have been public apologies extended to African-Americans who were directly impacted by racist violence, e.g. those who were attacked in the Tulsa riots, but extending that to people whose ancestors were exploited is absurd, IMO. </p>
<p>A more apt analogy would be the federal government, through a congressional resolution, ultimately recognizing the egregious error of the Korematsu decision during the 1980s.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what?

Nearly every Israeli government for the past decade and a half has courted avaricious haredi rabbis like Ovadia Yosef, who also want to institute halachic law, and as far as I know no one-with perhaps the exception of some columnists at Ha&#039;aretz-has expressed any qualms over that arrangement. 

What &quot;terrorism&quot; was committed by Meir Kahane, just out of curiosity?

Not an act committed by his followers,  or members of the JDL, or some schismatic offshoot of his former political party, but by Kahane himself?

When Henry Kissinger was trying to do his best to appease the USSR at the height of its empire Kahane was punching it in its ugly, totalitarian face, figuratively speaking.

Look, I&#039;m not here to post a brief for Meir Kahane-he had many deep and troubling flaws, and his vision of a religious state was misguided-but I think his views deserve a fair airing, especially when so many people are willing to yield to the 21st century&#039;s answer to the Evil Empire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what?</p>
<p>Nearly every Israeli government for the past decade and a half has courted avaricious haredi rabbis like Ovadia Yosef, who also want to institute halachic law, and as far as I know no one-with perhaps the exception of some columnists at Ha&#8217;aretz-has expressed any qualms over that arrangement. </p>
<p>What &#8220;terrorism&#8221; was committed by Meir Kahane, just out of curiosity?</p>
<p>Not an act committed by his followers,  or members of the JDL, or some schismatic offshoot of his former political party, but by Kahane himself?</p>
<p>When Henry Kissinger was trying to do his best to appease the USSR at the height of its empire Kahane was punching it in its ugly, totalitarian face, figuratively speaking.</p>
<p>Look, I&#8217;m not here to post a brief for Meir Kahane-he had many deep and troubling flaws, and his vision of a religious state was misguided-but I think his views deserve a fair airing, especially when so many people are willing to yield to the 21st century&#8217;s answer to the Evil Empire.</p>
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		<dc:creator>AprilOrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerard - like Debbie I think you believe jews should be treated differently, and I just don&#039;t agee with your thesis, or her&#039;s.  

Correction, Meir Kahane was backed the JDL, which I meant to write, not the ADL.  And the last time I checked - we do not need another ADL.  They are alive and well and doing whatever needs to be done.

We do not need a NAAJP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerard &#8211; like Debbie I think you believe jews should be treated differently, and I just don&#8217;t agee with your thesis, or her&#8217;s.  </p>
<p>Correction, Meir Kahane was backed the JDL, which I meant to write, not the ADL.  And the last time I checked &#8211; we do not need another ADL.  They are alive and well and doing whatever needs to be done.</p>
<p>We do not need a NAAJP.</p>
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		<title>By: AprilOrit</title>
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		<dc:creator>AprilOrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Millions of people on that continent profited from the extermination and exploitation of European Jewry and never admitted any complicity in the atrocities they excused until confronted with the damning evidence in court. And many people living today-including former members of the NSDAP and its affiliated organs-are responsible for Adolf Hitler’s rise to power. That’s precisely the point. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I disagree with you, we will have to leave it at that.  I don&#039;t believe in taking handouts for the past sins of ghosts, sorry. 

Many African Americans were victimized for years after Lincoln freed them, so what&#039;s the difference?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Millions of people on that continent profited from the extermination and exploitation of European Jewry and never admitted any complicity in the atrocities they excused until confronted with the damning evidence in court. And many people living today-including former members of the NSDAP and its affiliated organs-are responsible for Adolf Hitler’s rise to power. That’s precisely the point. </p></blockquote>
<p>I disagree with you, we will have to leave it at that.  I don&#8217;t believe in taking handouts for the past sins of ghosts, sorry. </p>
<p>Many African Americans were victimized for years after Lincoln freed them, so what&#8217;s the difference?</p>
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		<title>By: AprilOrit</title>
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		<dc:creator>AprilOrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I am well aware of Meir Kahane&#039;s teachings, I am born and raised in Manhattan.  Meir Kahane and the ADL believed in terrorism, he was another nutbag - a jewish version of what we are currently fighting.  He was a staunch believer in &lt;em&gt;Jewish Law&lt;/em&gt;.  I remember when he was assassinated and when his son was killed back in 2000.

I worked at UJA partime for many years - in high school and college.  And one of the things we did not support was any kind of terrorism of any sort, we believed in rescuing those in harm&#039;s way and that does not happen by using bombs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I am well aware of Meir Kahane&#8217;s teachings, I am born and raised in Manhattan.  Meir Kahane and the ADL believed in terrorism, he was another nutbag &#8211; a jewish version of what we are currently fighting.  He was a staunch believer in <em>Jewish Law</em>.  I remember when he was assassinated and when his son was killed back in 2000.</p>
<p>I worked at UJA partime for many years &#8211; in high school and college.  And one of the things we did not support was any kind of terrorism of any sort, we believed in rescuing those in harm&#8217;s way and that does not happen by using bombs.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not their ancestors, it&#039;s them!

And the cases are not simply about financial restitution-although some of the more ravenous lawyers such as that parasite on our body politic, Burt Neuborne, would probably disagree-but about setting the record straight. 

Millions of people on that continent profited from the extermination and exploitation of European Jewry and never admitted any complicity in the atrocities they excused until confronted with the damning evidence in court. And many people living today-including former members of the NSDAP and its affiliated organs-are responsible for Adolf Hitler&#039;s rise to power. That&#039;s precisely the point. 

There aren&#039;t any African-Americans alive today who were victimized by slavery, unless you buy into the argument that an abbhorent practice that was abolished nearly a century and a half ago is responsible for the current socio-economic problems among segments of the black community, which I don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not their ancestors, it&#8217;s them!</p>
<p>And the cases are not simply about financial restitution-although some of the more ravenous lawyers such as that parasite on our body politic, Burt Neuborne, would probably disagree-but about setting the record straight. </p>
<p>Millions of people on that continent profited from the extermination and exploitation of European Jewry and never admitted any complicity in the atrocities they excused until confronted with the damning evidence in court. And many people living today-including former members of the NSDAP and its affiliated organs-are responsible for Adolf Hitler&#8217;s rise to power. That&#8217;s precisely the point. </p>
<p>There aren&#8217;t any African-Americans alive today who were victimized by slavery, unless you buy into the argument that an abbhorent practice that was abolished nearly a century and a half ago is responsible for the current socio-economic problems among segments of the black community, which I don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: AprilOrit</title>
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		<dc:creator>AprilOrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;1. There are SURVIVING victims of the Holocaust, and the entities/individuals who tried to exterminate them are still around. As far I know, the last person who was a victim of legally-sanctioned chattel slavery in the United States died quite some time ago.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

See I disagree with you on this - Liberals believe it throwing money at victims, not Conservatives.  I do not believe the ancestors of slaves deserve money, nor do I believe the ancestors of the Holocaust deserve money. It is not anyone living today&#039;s fault that Adolf Hitler rose into power nor is it anyone living today&#039;s fault that slavery was an accepted practice. 

There were surviving slaves and I think there maybe a few left.  And we could say the same thing about blacks - the same entities/individuals who tried to exterminate jews also choose to exterminate blacks.

And they are still around.  They are in Stormfront and they contributed to Ron Paul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>1. There are SURVIVING victims of the Holocaust, and the entities/individuals who tried to exterminate them are still around. As far I know, the last person who was a victim of legally-sanctioned chattel slavery in the United States died quite some time ago.</p></blockquote>
<p>See I disagree with you on this &#8211; Liberals believe it throwing money at victims, not Conservatives.  I do not believe the ancestors of slaves deserve money, nor do I believe the ancestors of the Holocaust deserve money. It is not anyone living today&#8217;s fault that Adolf Hitler rose into power nor is it anyone living today&#8217;s fault that slavery was an accepted practice. </p>
<p>There were surviving slaves and I think there maybe a few left.  And we could say the same thing about blacks &#8211; the same entities/individuals who tried to exterminate jews also choose to exterminate blacks.</p>
<p>And they are still around.  They are in Stormfront and they contributed to Ron Paul.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. There are SURVIVING victims of the Holocaust, and the entities/individuals who tried to exterminate them are still around. As far I know, the last person who was a victim of legally-sanctioned chattel slavery in the United States died quite some time ago.

2. I&#039;m not going to claim that everything Meir Kahane said or did was correct, but he was prescient in his warnings about the looming threat Islam posed to both the United States and Israel. Kach was banned, and its leader prohibited from participating in elections to the Knesset, not because its espoused values contradict the Israeli constitution-the fact that there are Arab-Moslem parties that explicitly call for the dissolution of the Jewish state negates the claim that the Israeli government has any interest in suppressing racism or religious hatred-but because Meir Kahane posed the greatest threat to the existing, appeasement-minded political structure in that country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. There are SURVIVING victims of the Holocaust, and the entities/individuals who tried to exterminate them are still around. As far I know, the last person who was a victim of legally-sanctioned chattel slavery in the United States died quite some time ago.</p>
<p>2. I&#8217;m not going to claim that everything Meir Kahane said or did was correct, but he was prescient in his warnings about the looming threat Islam posed to both the United States and Israel. Kach was banned, and its leader prohibited from participating in elections to the Knesset, not because its espoused values contradict the Israeli constitution-the fact that there are Arab-Moslem parties that explicitly call for the dissolution of the Jewish state negates the claim that the Israeli government has any interest in suppressing racism or religious hatred-but because Meir Kahane posed the greatest threat to the existing, appeasement-minded political structure in that country.</p>
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		<dc:creator>WoosterOh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Update: Don’t look now, but if this trend holds up it’ll be the second consecutive primary where Huckabee hasn’t done any better with evangelicals than his opponents. He’d better turn that around fast in SC or he’s finished.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wait a minute, this cant be true. I read all the comments here at HotAir and they said Evangelicals are stupid, they voted for Carter. The Evangelicals F&#039; everything up in Iowa. They are useless and there votes do not matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Update: Don’t look now, but if this trend holds up it’ll be the second consecutive primary where Huckabee hasn’t done any better with evangelicals than his opponents. He’d better turn that around fast in SC or he’s finished.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wait a minute, this cant be true. I read all the comments here at HotAir and they said Evangelicals are stupid, they voted for Carter. The Evangelicals F&#8217; everything up in Iowa. They are useless and there votes do not matter.</p>
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		<dc:creator>AprilOrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;She is not well liked and that is coming from me, a FORMER fan of hers. She turned me off after a couple of one on ones and her constant belittling of those who don’t agree with absolutely everything she writes.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

She is the first one to yell anti-semitism in a crowded theater also, as a jew I take issue with her approach - which is very much akin to the way the NAACP approaches race with regards to blacks - or the Black Panthers actually.  She does the same for jews - feels they need and deserve special treatment - which makes me uncomfortable.  And I cannot figure out why she gets a pass in Conservative circles for her behavior.    

What&#039;s the difference between believeing Holocaust survivors and their ancestors should be compensated monetarily and that the ancestors of former slaves deserve the same?

She also has supported Meir Kahan and the JDL which is very radical. His political party was eventually banned in Israel.

Bottomline, you are correct, you cannot agree with Debbie without the personal attacks.  Several years ago she attacked a female Right Wing blogger for no reason.  I think the blogger&#039;s name was Beth.   

Aside from Sean Hannity she has called Monica Crowley a &lt;em&gt;Jayson Blair in a skirt&lt;/em&gt; in one of her &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2006/03/other_conservat.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blogs posts&lt;/a&gt;.  She claims Jerome Corsi also stole from her and that she was told to &lt;em&gt;&quot;take one for the team&quot;&lt;/em&gt; because it was for the Conservative cause.

She has a serious bone to pick with a ton of people, but she defended Ann Coulter here on HA when &lt;em&gt;DonnyDuestchgate &lt;/em&gt;broke.  I think she responded to Allah personally, maybe it was Bryon&#039;s post.  

I don&#039;t care from her attitude, I find it too caustic and as a jew I don&#039;t subscribe to &lt;em&gt;affirmative action&lt;/em&gt; for jews.  If someone attacks Judaism or me and my loved ones for my faith, only then I feel it is necessary to strike back - like a definitive anti-semitic act.

And her movie reviews are terrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>She is not well liked and that is coming from me, a FORMER fan of hers. She turned me off after a couple of one on ones and her constant belittling of those who don’t agree with absolutely everything she writes.</p></blockquote>
<p>She is the first one to yell anti-semitism in a crowded theater also, as a jew I take issue with her approach &#8211; which is very much akin to the way the NAACP approaches race with regards to blacks &#8211; or the Black Panthers actually.  She does the same for jews &#8211; feels they need and deserve special treatment &#8211; which makes me uncomfortable.  And I cannot figure out why she gets a pass in Conservative circles for her behavior.    </p>
<p>What&#8217;s the difference between believeing Holocaust survivors and their ancestors should be compensated monetarily and that the ancestors of former slaves deserve the same?</p>
<p>She also has supported Meir Kahan and the JDL which is very radical. His political party was eventually banned in Israel.</p>
<p>Bottomline, you are correct, you cannot agree with Debbie without the personal attacks.  Several years ago she attacked a female Right Wing blogger for no reason.  I think the blogger&#8217;s name was Beth.   </p>
<p>Aside from Sean Hannity she has called Monica Crowley a <em>Jayson Blair in a skirt</em> in one of her <a href="http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2006/03/other_conservat.html" rel="nofollow">blogs posts</a>.  She claims Jerome Corsi also stole from her and that she was told to <em>&#8220;take one for the team&#8221;</em> because it was for the Conservative cause.</p>
<p>She has a serious bone to pick with a ton of people, but she defended Ann Coulter here on HA when <em>DonnyDuestchgate </em>broke.  I think she responded to Allah personally, maybe it was Bryon&#8217;s post.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care from her attitude, I find it too caustic and as a jew I don&#8217;t subscribe to <em>affirmative action</em> for jews.  If someone attacks Judaism or me and my loved ones for my faith, only then I feel it is necessary to strike back &#8211; like a definitive anti-semitic act.</p>
<p>And her movie reviews are terrible.</p>
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