Open thread: Michigan results; Update: Fox News, CNN call it for Mitt; Update: 69% of black Dems vote “uncommitted”; Update: Mitt beats Huck among evangelicals?
posted at 8:20 pm on January 15, 2008 by Allahpundit
Looks like the nets are waiting until the very last Michigan poll closes in 40 minutes to call it but it’s clearly Mitt’s night. And Fred’s too: Compare and contrast.
If Romney wins, it guarantees that four of the big five will be alive and kicking in Florida two weeks from now. Fred will likely be the first one culled on Saturday; if Huckabee grossly disappoints in South Carolina he may go the same way, but McCain’s (likely) defeat tonight will give him a nice boost.
Are you as bored with this as I am? If so, there’s a Democratic debate airing on MSNBC at 9 p.m. And contrary to reports this morning, no, Dennis Kucinich will not be participating.
Update: Here’s CNN’s results page. Politico’s carrying the AP results, too.
Update: 9 p.m., polls are closed. Mitt wins, says Brit. CNN concurs. For once I think Hewitt’s spin is sound. If McCain can’t win in an open primary with no Democratic contest to draw away independents, how’s he going to win anywhere else?
Now we wait for the emotional Hugh/Mitt reunion at Romney HQ.
Update: It’s safe to say that Hillary’s lost the black vote. Not just in Michigan, either.
Update: Mitt’s pushing the “change” line in his victory speech now. Tedious.
Update: Don’t look now, but if this trend holds up it’ll be the second consecutive primary where Huckabee hasn’t done any better with evangelicals than his opponents. He’d better turn that around fast in SC or he’s finished.
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Yea, I know all about Mitt’s healthcare – it’s imploding. So much for freedom… in the Romney Socialist Kommonwealth of Mass, you will be heavily fined if you don’t join their healthcare system.
Go Fred!
electric-rascal on January 15, 2008 at 10:56 PM
thank god Mitt won, takes some real steam out of Huckabee and McCain and thats what matters
Defector01 on January 15, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Bottom line.
They did rally the “troops” for said purpose.
baldilocks on January 15, 2008 at 10:58 PM
I really don’t think that would be a problem, do you?
SouthernPride on January 15, 2008 at 10:59 PM
As I posted on the other thread…
I would put Michelle on that ticket, however, I would rather have her as our (Hot Air’s) personal advisor. Also….she would be the NUMBER 1 advisor to the Coulter/Thompson ticket. Sorta like our own personal “Karl Rove”.
SouthernPride on January 15, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Like a broke clock, Hewitt is right once in a while.
Warner Todd Huston on January 15, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Not.At.All.
Spirit of 1776 on January 15, 2008 at 11:06 PM
I don’t know, BC. She got 31% of the Michigan A-A vote. That’s a pretty big number against a black guy, even though he wasn’t technically on the ballot. Isn’t that enough to cause him problems?
Jaibones on January 15, 2008 at 11:12 PM
People that can afford to buy health insurance are fined if they don’t because these are the same people that beg for free care on the taxpayer’s dime when they do get sick. And it’s not “their” healthcare system. The healthcare system in MA was hugely deregulated in order to provide for more free market options. Check this out if you don’t understand.
malan89 on January 15, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Ron Paul is losing miserably in michigan! What a pathetic joke he is!
Wait… who’s that guy way in the back getting pummeled by Paul??……..
Can you imagine an even bigger loser than Ron Paul?
HaraldHardrada on January 15, 2008 at 11:20 PM
I love Debbie Schlussel, but it seems like she totally blew the call on this one.
So much for a home-state insight.
I’m sure she’ll own up to this on her weblog tomorrow.
Looks like real Republicans actually do vote in these things.
Let’s hope Fred pulls off an upset in South Carolina.
I’m rooting for a brokered convention so that we can get a real candidate, e.g. Sarah Palin, Michael Steele, Bobby Jindal, Rick Santorum, out of this clusterf**ck.
Gerard on January 15, 2008 at 11:20 PM
One of his supporters?
Mojave Mark on January 15, 2008 at 11:32 PM
I’m rooting for a brokered convention so that we can get a real candidate, e.g. Sarah Palin, Michael Steele, Bobby Jindal, Rick Santorum, out of this clusterf**ck.
Gerard on January 15, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Don’t worry…Santorum is going to be Huckabee’s VP!
HaraldHardrada on January 15, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Yeah, how about the guy who has to pick up Paul’s stupid road signs.
right2bright on January 15, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Dude….Jindal (fmr. congressman, now gov. of Louisiana)/Palin (AK gov) 08. Dream ticket. Two Washington outsiders with a desire to cut spending and taxes. This ticket couldn’t lose.
malan89 on January 15, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Or the men in white who have to carry away his supporters.
I think Rick is more conservative than that. I think about the only thing he has in common with Huck is the social con positions.
malan89 on January 15, 2008 at 11:38 PM
Santorum knows the real deal when he sees it…that’s why he’s gunning for a VP slot on a Huck ticket right now!
HaraldHardrada on January 15, 2008 at 11:44 PM
If only Mitt had vetoed this part, but he didn’t.
From the Mass state health office defining benifits:
What benefits will I get?
Commonwealth Care members get health services through managed care health plans. There are several plans to choose from. Each health plan provides comprehensive health coverage.
Now who said he has changed his position on abortion?
right2bright on January 15, 2008 at 11:45 PM
I’m headed to bed now (Central Zone), but had to address Debbie Schlussel. She does not have a “glowing” rating here on H.A. In fact, I would dare say she has more of a “blow hard” reputation.
She is not well liked and that is coming from me, a FORMER fan of hers. She turned me off after a couple of one on ones and her constant belittling of those who don’t agree with absolutely everything she writes.
Forewarned…if you disagree with any “little” thing she says/writes, she’ll try to squash you with no respect whatsoever. Trust me. I tried to tell her I agreed with her on many issues, but one little thing….BAM!!! She treated me like doo-doo Sh!t. Agree or else with Debbie Shlusssssshl.
My opinion and my good night~
SouthernPride on January 15, 2008 at 11:45 PM
The MA legislature is about 90% Democratic. Obviously, he has to compromise.
malan89 on January 15, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Sure she will. Sure she will.
Spirit of 1776 on January 15, 2008 at 11:54 PM
I got the gloves on, DS.
I told you your election punditry is going down the tubes.
I was and am right.
We’ll do this again.
Now ‘fess up, what have you been telling the pollsters the last few months?
Can you gives us any inside track? You and Medved together on this?
Mcguyver on January 15, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Congratulations to Mitt Romney on kicking the collective asses of John McCain and Mike Huckabee!! A great day to celebrate!
I’m with Mitt!
CABE on January 15, 2008 at 11:56 PM
I can’t believe she’s crediting Kos with helping Romney to win!
UGH!
As if the Kos kiddies aren’t delusional enough, now we have to pretend that they exerted an impact upon the Michigan (Republican) primary?
Gerard on January 16, 2008 at 12:15 AM
Yeah, I suppose so. But watch a big chunk of that 31% shift to Obama if he wins another primary.
BlackCapitalist on January 16, 2008 at 12:18 AM
Government forced personal responsibility however, is not a conservative position.
Gianni on January 16, 2008 at 12:21 AM
SouthernPride on January 15, 2008 at 11:45 PM
True.
Also, her support for Giuliani is utterly inexplicable.
She (rightly) crucifies President Bush for appointing the ICE princess Julie Myers-possibly the worst nominee confirmed for a position in the executive branch since Janet Reno, if not Ramsay Clark-and yet she endorses a man who will appoint his own Julie Myers, should he win the presidency? The only difference being that his Myers will probably have had an extramarital affair with him.
Gerard on January 16, 2008 at 12:26 AM
The principal point is that she has been quite rude here. They still very generously link to her from time to time, in the headlines, etc though.
Spirit of 1776 on January 16, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Thanks for the reminder. Among other things, she informed us yesterday that George Romney was a liberal nut-job blah blah blah.
I can’t wait for her post-election analysis. /S
Massachusetts law and various court decisions mandate that abortions be covered.
Do you ever stop with your crap? Pardon my French, but I can’t think of a better word to describe your “contributions”.
Buy Danish on January 16, 2008 at 12:31 AM
Mitt took the republican vote all across the board. Young, old, male, female, college, non-college evangelical, non-evangelical.
McCain will never get that kind of support. Neither will Huck for that matter.
BTW, Fred was on H&C tonight. He’s gone back to the “grouchy constipated old man who can’t keep the kids off the lawn” attitude. Sean asked him a pointed question and Fred refused to answer it straight.
csdeven on January 16, 2008 at 12:31 AM
The first encounter with DS was here when she was complaining about Hannity stealing her material. I was sympathetic, but she just wouldn’t let it go. Still, I enjoy reading her from time to time.
csdeven on January 16, 2008 at 12:33 AM
She followed that endearing monologue by insulting and then mocking Ms. Coulter for a slip of the tongue, saying sharia instead of shia. That was followed by remarking on one of the members of the HA family (MKH iirc) as essentially vapid (for not expanding the topic on a talking head show). And that doesn’t even begin to address remarks made to commenters here.
Spirit of 1776 on January 16, 2008 at 12:39 AM
But remember, Romney had to win here. It’s not a huge victory, but a relief for his campaign. Will it give him any momentum? Very limited, I predict.
Posted by Debbie at 10:14 PM
I’m amazed that Fox Sports hasn’t signed her up to do in-studio analysis for the NFL playoffs yet.
Gerard on January 16, 2008 at 12:42 AM
Thankfully I missed that. Perhaps she has some vajayjay envy? ;-)
csdeven on January 16, 2008 at 12:49 AM
When do we see the bump from this? I figure day after tomorrow. Think they’ll wait that long?
csdeven on January 16, 2008 at 12:51 AM
She almost always prefaces her points here by insulting someone (usually someone more famous). She either has some kind of envy or she is doing a heck of job faking it.
Spirit of 1776 on January 16, 2008 at 12:52 AM
I can’t believe Ron Paul did better than both Fred & Rudy, unbelievable.
I am not getting it.
AprilOrit on January 16, 2008 at 1:00 AM
A female McCain?
csdeven on January 16, 2008 at 1:08 AM
She almost always prefaces her points here by insulting someone.
Look at it this way, it’s her trademark.
If she stoppped doing it now it would be like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar giving up his skyhook in mid-career.
Gerard on January 16, 2008 at 1:09 AM
I hope you are sitting down. I think I like McCain more.
It is. And it’s classless.
It’d be more like if Tyson stopped biting people’s ears.
Spirit of 1776 on January 16, 2008 at 1:11 AM
You eat one opponent’s earlobe during a fight and never hear the end of it.
Sheesh!
Gerard on January 16, 2008 at 1:18 AM
Yeah, because Debbie is all about owning up to mistakes.
/sarcasm
Hollowpoint on January 16, 2008 at 1:26 AM
Well, she at least admitted she was hopelessly wrong-at the prompting of Curtis Sliwa.
Of course, she has to do it in a backhanded, yeah, but I’ll be right next time sort of manner.
But remember, Romney had to win here. It’s not a huge victory, but a relief for his campaign. Will it give him any momentum? Very limited, I predict.
Posted by Debbie at 10:14 PM
I’m amazed that Fox Sports hasn’t signed her up to do in-studio analysis for the NFL playoffs yet.
Gerard on January 16, 2008 at 12:42 AM
Gerard on January 16, 2008 at 1:37 AM
She is the first one to yell anti-semitism in a crowded theater also, as a jew I take issue with her approach – which is very much akin to the way the NAACP approaches race with regards to blacks – or the Black Panthers actually. She does the same for jews – feels they need and deserve special treatment – which makes me uncomfortable. And I cannot figure out why she gets a pass in Conservative circles for her behavior.
What’s the difference between believeing Holocaust survivors and their ancestors should be compensated monetarily and that the ancestors of former slaves deserve the same?
She also has supported Meir Kahan and the JDL which is very radical. His political party was eventually banned in Israel.
Bottomline, you are correct, you cannot agree with Debbie without the personal attacks. Several years ago she attacked a female Right Wing blogger for no reason. I think the blogger’s name was Beth.
Aside from Sean Hannity she has called Monica Crowley a Jayson Blair in a skirt in one of her blogs posts. She claims Jerome Corsi also stole from her and that she was told to “take one for the team” because it was for the Conservative cause.
She has a serious bone to pick with a ton of people, but she defended Ann Coulter here on HA when DonnyDuestchgate broke. I think she responded to Allah personally, maybe it was Bryon’s post.
I don’t care from her attitude, I find it too caustic and as a jew I don’t subscribe to affirmative action for jews. If someone attacks Judaism or me and my loved ones for my faith, only then I feel it is necessary to strike back – like a definitive anti-semitic act.
And her movie reviews are terrible.
AprilOrit on January 16, 2008 at 1:38 AM
Wait a minute, this cant be true. I read all the comments here at HotAir and they said Evangelicals are stupid, they voted for Carter. The Evangelicals F’ everything up in Iowa. They are useless and there votes do not matter.
WoosterOh on January 16, 2008 at 1:44 AM
1. There are SURVIVING victims of the Holocaust, and the entities/individuals who tried to exterminate them are still around. As far I know, the last person who was a victim of legally-sanctioned chattel slavery in the United States died quite some time ago.
2. I’m not going to claim that everything Meir Kahane said or did was correct, but he was prescient in his warnings about the looming threat Islam posed to both the United States and Israel. Kach was banned, and its leader prohibited from participating in elections to the Knesset, not because its espoused values contradict the Israeli constitution-the fact that there are Arab-Moslem parties that explicitly call for the dissolution of the Jewish state negates the claim that the Israeli government has any interest in suppressing racism or religious hatred-but because Meir Kahane posed the greatest threat to the existing, appeasement-minded political structure in that country.
Gerard on January 16, 2008 at 1:48 AM
See I disagree with you on this – Liberals believe it throwing money at victims, not Conservatives. I do not believe the ancestors of slaves deserve money, nor do I believe the ancestors of the Holocaust deserve money. It is not anyone living today’s fault that Adolf Hitler rose into power nor is it anyone living today’s fault that slavery was an accepted practice.
There were surviving slaves and I think there maybe a few left. And we could say the same thing about blacks – the same entities/individuals who tried to exterminate jews also choose to exterminate blacks.
And they are still around. They are in Stormfront and they contributed to Ron Paul.
AprilOrit on January 16, 2008 at 2:00 AM
It’s not their ancestors, it’s them!
And the cases are not simply about financial restitution-although some of the more ravenous lawyers such as that parasite on our body politic, Burt Neuborne, would probably disagree-but about setting the record straight.
Millions of people on that continent profited from the extermination and exploitation of European Jewry and never admitted any complicity in the atrocities they excused until confronted with the damning evidence in court. And many people living today-including former members of the NSDAP and its affiliated organs-are responsible for Adolf Hitler’s rise to power. That’s precisely the point.
There aren’t any African-Americans alive today who were victimized by slavery, unless you buy into the argument that an abbhorent practice that was abolished nearly a century and a half ago is responsible for the current socio-economic problems among segments of the black community, which I don’t.
Gerard on January 16, 2008 at 2:17 AM
And I am well aware of Meir Kahane’s teachings, I am born and raised in Manhattan. Meir Kahane and the ADL believed in terrorism, he was another nutbag – a jewish version of what we are currently fighting. He was a staunch believer in Jewish Law. I remember when he was assassinated and when his son was killed back in 2000.
I worked at UJA partime for many years – in high school and college. And one of the things we did not support was any kind of terrorism of any sort, we believed in rescuing those in harm’s way and that does not happen by using bombs.
AprilOrit on January 16, 2008 at 2:20 AM
I disagree with you, we will have to leave it at that. I don’t believe in taking handouts for the past sins of ghosts, sorry.
Many African Americans were victimized for years after Lincoln freed them, so what’s the difference?
AprilOrit on January 16, 2008 at 2:25 AM
Gerard – like Debbie I think you believe jews should be treated differently, and I just don’t agee with your thesis, or her’s.
Correction, Meir Kahane was backed the JDL, which I meant to write, not the ADL. And the last time I checked – we do not need another ADL. They are alive and well and doing whatever needs to be done.
We do not need a NAAJP.
AprilOrit on January 16, 2008 at 2:31 AM
So what?
Nearly every Israeli government for the past decade and a half has courted avaricious haredi rabbis like Ovadia Yosef, who also want to institute halachic law, and as far as I know no one-with perhaps the exception of some columnists at Ha’aretz-has expressed any qualms over that arrangement.
What “terrorism” was committed by Meir Kahane, just out of curiosity?
Not an act committed by his followers, or members of the JDL, or some schismatic offshoot of his former political party, but by Kahane himself?
When Henry Kissinger was trying to do his best to appease the USSR at the height of its empire Kahane was punching it in its ugly, totalitarian face, figuratively speaking.
Look, I’m not here to post a brief for Meir Kahane-he had many deep and troubling flaws, and his vision of a religious state was misguided-but I think his views deserve a fair airing, especially when so many people are willing to yield to the 21st century’s answer to the Evil Empire.
Gerard on January 16, 2008 at 2:34 AM
Freedmen were victimized by both the government and individuals in postbellum America, but I don’t see how that equates to giving reparations to people who were victims of a specific injustice when the perpetrators still exist.
There have been public apologies extended to African-Americans who were directly impacted by racist violence, e.g. those who were attacked in the Tulsa riots, but extending that to people whose ancestors were exploited is absurd, IMO.
A more apt analogy would be the federal government, through a congressional resolution, ultimately recognizing the egregious error of the Korematsu decision during the 1980s.
Gerard on January 16, 2008 at 2:54 AM
Ahem. That is an absolute lie. (And FYI, it is Kahane–get a clue.) When did I do that? I never supported the JDL, either. People who make up things like this need serious help. The same goes for pretty much the rest of what you wrote. But for someone who seems to dislike me so much, gee, you sure spend a lot of time obsessed with me (ditto for most of the rest of you making comments about me). That you even admit to working for UJA, the far-left Jewish establishment hopelessly allied with Islamists and terrorism supporters, says all we need to know about you.
As for my predictions about Michigan, I’ve addressed them on my site, which you seem to visit quite a bit, so I’ll let you read them, as you read all of my other work you claim to detest so much but can’t seem to get enough of.
Oh, and one other thing, Monica Crowley is a known, documented plagiarist–I provided the links on my site to former Wall Street Journal investigative reporter Tim Noah’s two exposes (here and here) on her, as you well know. That’s why the Wall Street Journal had to run an apology when it ran the piece she ripped off from writer Paul Johnson and won’t run her work again. Please explain how she is different than Jayson Blair–other than having gotten away with it and being a “conservative”. Jerome Corsi admitted that he read and ripped off a column I wrote. I documented how it was almost word for word. Not sure where you went to school, but that is, indeed, plagiarism. Ideology does not excuse intellectual property crimes, does it? If ever anyone rips off your work–and, trust me, that will never happen, since you simply lie and fabricate–then, we shall see how you like it. Or at least you shall see. No-one else will care.
Debbie Schlussel on January 16, 2008 at 3:00 AM
I don’t see how substantive critiques=dislike for you.
I suppose April is on a different page, but most of the other people commenting on this subject simply have a problem with the way you deal with honest disagreements-take this thread, for example-I don’t think they dislike you or your weblog.
Gerard on January 16, 2008 at 3:45 AM
A remake that ridiculous and outrageous warrants no futher comment or discussion.
You are a Far Right bomb thrower.
AprilOrit on January 16, 2008 at 10:38 AM
Copley News Service, December 20, 2001 Thursday
Issa in media firestorm with “brassy” commentator
By Joe Cantlupe (excerpts)
Rep. Darrell Issa’s battle with a flamboyant conservative Internet columnist who called the Arab-American lawmaker “jihad Darrell” has become a bizarre sideshow to a recent plot to bomb his district office in San Clemente.
Issa and his aides said columns written by a Detroit-based lawyer might have inflamed Jewish Defense League officials, who allegedly were targeting the San Diego County lawmaker.
One of the suspects, Irving David Rubin, chairman of the JDL, gave copies of the Internet commentaries to an FBI informant, who helped thwart a plot to blow up a Los Angeles mosque and one of Issa’s offices, according to a source familiar with the case.
Rubin and a JDL associate, Earl Leslie Krugel, have been held without bail since their arrests on federal charges in California on Dec. 11. They have denied the charges. Initially, authorities contend, the suspects had targeted the mosque but later added Issa as a target after they came across one of the Internet columns written by political commentator Debbie Schlussel, according to Issa.
…Schlussel, in a recent phone interview, was stunned to learn of reports that one of the suspects may have cited one of her columns attacking Issa. She only urged readers to vote against him in the next election, nothing violent, she said.
“It was horrible anybody would target (Issa) or anyone else. I condemn it unequivocally,” said Schlussel.
I tend to believe that stirring the pot never works in these situations.
And why is your article on their page?
AprilOrit on January 16, 2008 at 10:53 AM
Thanks for the the Teflon top spinning match, DS.
I can’t wait to hear Medved’s matchup spin.
Well, in fact, I never listen to him. So, someone else will have to be my slave and report back here.
I for one, welcome you all to your new Overlords… the Mittheads.
Mcguyver on January 16, 2008 at 11:00 AM
Debbie, you still have yet to offer a satisfactory explanation-or any explanation, to be frank-of how you can reconcile the anti-illegal immigration and anti-Muslim immigration views you hold with support for Rudy Giuliani, a man who supports amnesty-albeit, not the kind preferred by President Bush and Senator McCain-and has shown no willingness to limit immigration from the Middle East, or any other region of the world for that matter.
You can make a legitimate argument that Steve Forbes should endorse Giuliani-notwithstanding the two men’s disagreements on social issues like abortion-because his priority is fiscal/economic issues. However, I don’t see how you can argue, with a straight face, that someone who is vehemently and consistently opposed to illegal immigration as you have professed to be is in tune politically with Rudy Giuliani, as opposed to Mitt Romney or Fred Thompson. Even if you have a personal distaste for Romney or Thompson supporters that doesn’t explain how you can support a candidate who so consistently and stridently opposes the views you hold on illegal aliens/the border.
Gerard on January 16, 2008 at 11:05 AM
Gerard,
There’s something else that drives DS’s bias for McCain. I’m just not sure what it is.
But it obviously is there.
Perhaps when McCain gets elected to be the first man on mars, (and report back to us when the temperature drops about 300 degrees) she will come clean and explain.
Mcguyver on January 16, 2008 at 12:13 PM
I don’t mind the prejudice against McCain-I’m not a huge fan of him as a presidential candidate myself-Huckabee, or any other Republican who doesn’t match the expectations a reasonable conservative would have of a potential GOP nominee.
Even the critcism of Thompson and Abraham could theoretically be justified-although I think it’s a pretty thin reed to cling to, in all honesty-if she expressed the same disdain for Giuliani, whose views on immigration/illegal aliens diverge from hers much more sharply than those of Romney or Thompson, and certainly more than Hunter’s or Cox’s-I have yet to see her post any blog entries touting their candidacies, which, when you take into consideration her professed views on this subject, would seem to be a perfect match for her.
It just strikes me that she has a huge blind spot as far as Giuliani is concerned-I have tons of conservative, anti-illegal friends who share the same sentimentality about his candidacy, but at least a few of them are forthright in conceding his severe limitations as a candidate.
Gerard on January 16, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Gerard,
This is just a thought… I really don’t know.. it’s just a thought…. Israel.. bonafied strong defenders for the native land… i.e., Rudy and McCain?
Huckabee might be, too… but his pandering rhetoric could end in a disaster on that.
Mitt?
Just some thoughts… I really just don’t know.
Mcguyver on January 16, 2008 at 12:36 PM
The problem, as I see it, is that a lot of otherwise reasonable conservatives have a blind spot wider than a 16-wheeler when it comes to him.
I can understand admiring his incredible achievements while in office-I know what it was like to live here during the ignominious Dinkins reign-and I would get behind any run he made at that arrogant imbecile Elliot Spitzer or lens louse Chuck Schumer, but I simply don’t understand why the Giuliani supporters can’t accept the fact that he has some extreme handicaps when it comes to winning a race for the presidency.
Anyway, Debbie’s jeremiad seems to be her last contribution to this thread so I guess I’ll have to accept her silence as an answer to my question for now.
Gerard on January 16, 2008 at 12:49 PM
She isn’t the only one, they are all blindsighted by his whole 9/11 schtick.
AprilOrit on January 16, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Ditto for Mcvain supporters, who have a blind spot for his positions on the issues, focusing solely on his biography.
thirteen28 on January 16, 2008 at 2:26 PM
Also, none of the major Republican candidates-with the exception of Huckabee, and McCain on the issue of detainee interrogations-replicate the soft attitude towards Islam exhibited by President Bush, so the argument that Giuliani’s foreign policy stands are superior to those espoused by his main opponents is a bit of a red herring.
Gerard on January 16, 2008 at 3:36 PM
I read the funniest comment over at Althouse – 2 tower Rudy. LOL
AprilOrit on January 16, 2008 at 8:46 PM
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