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Finally: Fred hits McCain; Update: Fred hits McCain again

posted at 12:10 pm on January 15, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Not with an uppercut but a good straight jab. It would have been more effective if he’d gone after him individually instead of lumping him in with Huck but the race being what it is in South Carolina, he doesn’t have much choice. Any attack on one benefits the other so he’s forced to attack both.

Accusing Maverick of having betrayed the Reagan vision, though? Maybe it is an uppercut after all.

Update: It’ll be fun watching this escalate over the next four days. From Glenn Beck:

How do you explain with conservatives going out to vote, how are they supporting John McCain? What is this — where is this coming from?

SENATOR THOMPSON: I think the basis of it is national security, national defense. John was right, I think, with regard to Iraq and he stood tough during tough times and I think he turned out to be right. And I was the same place the whole time and have been. We agree on that. But John is wrong on some other important things and he was wrong when he voted against the Bush tax cuts.

GLENN: But wait a minute. I mean –

SENATOR THOMPSON: He says he’s changed his mind about that now and, you know, sobeit. But, you know, I was there during part of that time and I voted the other way. I believed the other way then, I believe the other way now. He’s certainly wrong with regard to the immigration bill that they tried to get the American people sign off on last year and they gave a resounding no and now everybody’s getting tough on the border. But on taxes and immigration, especially, you know, I think he’s wrong. But so is Huckabee as far as that’s concerned.

GLENN: But he’s also wrong with McCain/Lieberman where he wants to sign treaties for global warming. He wants to give away sovereignty on global warming. This guy is not a conservative.

SENATOR THOMPSON: No, I think he’s in the wrong direction on that, too. I think that that’s absolutely true. But, you know, he’s like everybody else. You know, he has his strong suits and his weak suits. But I think that the direction that he and Huckabee and others really, I think Giuliani and where Romney has been in the past all are going in a so-called moderate direction, which is going to lead to, you know, so-called big government conservativism or bigger government conservativism anyway.


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Although the popular opinions of his starting late, playing too soft,etc,are out there. I think he has a slow burn strategy that follows his timetable and no one else’s.Surprises like this perhaps enforce that notion.

bbz123 on January 15, 2008 at 12:12 PM

Well done Fred. Keep it coming. People need to be reminded everyday that McCain betrayed all of us and continues to do so. Our memories seem to be far too short collectively.

Zetterson on January 15, 2008 at 12:14 PM

Fred!

He SHOULD be our next President of the United States.

SimplyKimberly on January 15, 2008 at 12:15 PM

give him a round of applause for NOW doing what he needed to do

Defector01 on January 15, 2008 at 12:16 PM

Seemed a little awkward when Fred brought up his increase.

I’ve been supporting Fred throughout, and I hope so much for a complete blindside in SC…but as much as I’m glad he’s finally going after Captain Amnesty, I think it is too late. A lot can happen in 4 days, but I don’t think this is heavy enough. I want to hear more. I want to see him SLAM this sucker. I want him to be on every network he can, take aim, and take down the candidate most interested in the Mexican vote.

MadisonConservative on January 15, 2008 at 12:17 PM

So it begins. It’s on, baby!

LickyLicky on January 15, 2008 at 12:18 PM

DOWN GOES McMAIN….DOWN GOES McCAIN

(Channeling Howard Cosell)

Ahhh, per chance to dream.

HarryStar on January 15, 2008 at 12:18 PM

If Fred had run his whole campaign the way he has the past few weeks, he’d be walking away with this thing right now.

That said, maybe I’m delusional, but I still don’t think it’s too late. Finish strong, Fred!

World B. Free on January 15, 2008 at 12:19 PM

I’ll let the good people of SC decide if its too late or not….

Go Fred!!

stlpatriot on January 15, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Why does the Republican party continue to vote for people like John McCain or Mike Huckabee? They aren’t conservatives! Stop the madness people and vote for Fred!

msipes on January 15, 2008 at 12:19 PM

I guess that’s a punch. Mostly seemed to me to be a shot at Huckabee for not answering his criticisms and drawing McCain in to avoid doing so. If Fox’s poll is right though, he’s target #1.

Spirit of 1776 on January 15, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Why does the Republican party continue to vote for people like John McCain or Mike Huckabee? They aren’t conservatives!

msipes on January 15, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Agreed!!!! At some point in time, the Conservative Party is going to have to draw the big line in the sand and just say No, we’re not going to endorse you, even though you are a Republican.

HarryStar on January 15, 2008 at 12:21 PM

Fred does NOT like Fox News.

infidel65 on January 15, 2008 at 12:23 PM

If Fred had run his whole campaign the way he has the past few weeks, he’d be walking away with this thing right now.

Indeed.

Spirit of 1776 on January 15, 2008 at 12:24 PM

THOMPSON-TANCREDO ‘08

pseudonominus on January 15, 2008 at 12:24 PM

Has Lindsay “VP or AG” Graham responded yet by throwing a hissy fit?

SouthernGent on January 15, 2008 at 12:24 PM

Fred needs to hit McCain point for point. This was just a glancing blow.

P. James Moriarty on January 15, 2008 at 12:24 PM

Madison, I think it’s definitely not too late. Fred had to wait for the most opportune moment. He’s already taken a lot of Huck’s steam and people know it. I don’t agree that the most effective way would have been to take them out all at once. Huck was his biggest obstacle, and I think going after them all at once would have equated to shooting a group of standing targets with birdshot instead of a 9mm for each. They’d all get hit at once, but it would be too little damage. Watch and see if he doesn’t say something else today about McAmnesty. I think he knows Mitt’s in trouble, so he’s biding his time on that one, too.

LickyLicky on January 15, 2008 at 12:24 PM

Now Fred just needs to keep hitting at McCain’s involvement in the “Gang of 14″ and his embrace for global warming/carbon taxing energy policies.

azcop on January 15, 2008 at 12:24 PM

He is a hunter. Takes his shot at the varmints, one at a time.
He just didn’t have the money or the machine to start out of the gates as strong as some of his supporters wanted.
But he has wounded Huck, now he has winged McCain…one at a time.

right2bright on January 15, 2008 at 12:26 PM

That said, maybe I’m delusional, but I still don’t think it’s too late. Finish strong, Fred!

World B. Free on January 15, 2008 at 12:19 PM

Color me delusional too.

I’ll happily be delusional supporting someone who will best represent Republican and conservative values.

Fred!

SimplyKimberly on January 15, 2008 at 12:27 PM

Fred is calculated in his moves. He knows how to pace himself in this presidential chess match…..one piece at a time…..& then CHECK!!!! & the REAL debate begins.

lobosan5 on January 15, 2008 at 12:29 PM

beyond ludicrous

Main Entry: lu·di·crous
Pronunciation: \ˈlü-də-krəs\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin ludicrus, from ludus play, sport; perhaps akin to Greek loidoros abusive
Date: 1712
1 : amusing or laughable through obvious absurdity, incongruity, exaggeration, or eccentricity
2 : meriting derisive laughter or scorn as absurdly inept, false, or foolish
synonyms see laughable

sonnyspats1 on January 15, 2008 at 12:29 PM

I’d call it a jab. Not a power punch, but it’s a start, since the jab is what you use to set up the rest of your offense.

Keep it up, Fred, and start bringing in those hooks and uppercuts behind the jab.

thirteen28 on January 15, 2008 at 12:29 PM

Go Fred!

Nuke Huckster and then kneecap the Mac. Romney looks like he may implode on his own.

notta_dhimmi on January 15, 2008 at 12:30 PM

Fred needs to hit McCain point for point. This was just a glancing blow.

P. James Moriarty on January 15, 2008 at 12:24 PM

Agreed

right2bright on January 15, 2008 at 12:31 PM

true conservative, strong principles and morals, offense in the WOT, strong on the military, Federalist = Fred ‘08 baaaaaaby

mattyj86 on January 15, 2008 at 12:34 PM

Fred Thompson should wear a bell or something so people wake up occasionally while he is talking.

EJDolbow on January 15, 2008 at 12:34 PM

That was FREDtastic!

sleepy-beans on January 15, 2008 at 12:35 PM

What some of the Fred critics have been missing in re McCain is that Fred’s very entrance into the race was a slam at McCain, interpreted by some as a betrayal of John and an attempt to drive him out at a time when certain pundits were inviting predictions for the “dead pool.” Fred’s main issues other than war-related ones are implicit criticisms of McCain or reminders of McCain apostasies from conservative doctrines.

If Fred’s to maintain a chance in SC specifically and anywhere in the South, and in the horse race overall, restraining, reducing, and ripping off Huckabee is job #1. If Mitt stalls John’s momentum in Michigan but drops out of contention in SC, AND Fred finishes strong in SC, then Fred’s still behind, especially nationally, but he’s the only candidate with clear momentum, he’s the Huck-killer, and he’s a potentially rallying point for other conservatives as the anti-John, anti-Huck.

If you’re going to try to kill the king, be sure you succeed. Fred hasn’t been ready or able to decapitate the party front-runner. If MI exposes John, then Fred might be able to stick the knife in. He might even be able to do it without leaving fingerprints all over the hilt.

CK MacLeod on January 15, 2008 at 12:37 PM

He’s said this before. The whole “he won’t criticize McCain” thing is about as based on reality as the “lazy,” “no fire in the belly,” and other stuff people have said.

I’m gonna take a two week politics break.

Go Fred!

funky chicken on January 15, 2008 at 12:39 PM

That was FREDtastic!

sleepy-beans on January 15, 2008 at 12:35 PM

FREDtacular!

Frozen Tex on January 15, 2008 at 12:41 PM

Is Fred losing weight on the campaign trail? His cheeks seem sunken.

craig on January 15, 2008 at 12:41 PM

Couldn’t have come at a better time, unless that time was October. But right after McCain has his little tantrum over illegal immigration, now the lights are on and maybe there’s something to fight about.

Jaibones on January 15, 2008 at 12:42 PM

The other weird thing….people complain that only a super rich guy like Mitt, or a Soros funded guy like, well, all the top 3 dems, gets attention.

Then they savage a person who doesn’t have almost infinite funding because he didn’t run a year long pre-primary race. If you don’t have Mitt, Soros, Buffett, or Schwartenegger cash on hand, you can’t run for president for 2 years.

Eh.

funky chicken on January 15, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Fred gave McCain the smackdown on Glenn Beck today, too. He’s getting there folks!

Go FRED!!!

ihasurnominashun on January 15, 2008 at 12:43 PM

Not with an uppercut but a good straight jab

it looked more like a right cross followed with a swift kick in the A$$ to shuckabee just because they brought him up.

Mojack420 on January 15, 2008 at 12:43 PM

Accusing Maverick of having betrayed the Reagan vision, though? Maybe it is an uppercut after all.

Right here dude….

liquidflorian on January 15, 2008 at 12:46 PM

CK MacLeod on January 15, 2008 at 12:37 PM

Interesting but work this in there somewhere also. Mary Matalin either said or implied (don’t have the story in front of me at the moment) that McCain’s camp was the one that fed the ‘Fred to drop out’ story in Iowa to the press.

Spirit of 1776 on January 15, 2008 at 12:46 PM

Man, Rudy needs to start hitting McCain. With Florida a couple weeks away, he needs to stop be Mr. Nice Guy for a bit. Rudy is way more conservative than McCain is.

froghat on January 15, 2008 at 12:47 PM

Fred is one of the three GOP candidates that I find acceptable. (others are Rudy and Mitt)

AbaddonsReign on January 15, 2008 at 12:47 PM

Accusing Maverick of having betrayed the Reagan vision, though? Maybe it is an uppercut after all.

More like a feint

bnelson44 on January 15, 2008 at 12:49 PM

I’m a Mitt fan but would just as enjoy supporting Fred. Out of the candidates we must elect either of these good men.

Buckley on January 15, 2008 at 12:53 PM

I believe I told you that Fred was just waiting for McCain to come into optimum striking range.

steveegg on January 15, 2008 at 12:53 PM

Fred took another jab at McCain along with Glenn Beck during an interview today:

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/196/4206/

He pointed out him being wrong on the tax cuts in 2001 and 2003 and his horrible stance on illegal immigration. Glenn also got Fred to acknowledge McCain’s poor position on the so-called “Global Warming” energy tax plan.

azcop on January 15, 2008 at 12:58 PM

Interesting but work this in there somewhere also. Mary Matalin either said or implied (don’t have the story in front of me at the moment) that McCain’s camp was the one that fed the ‘Fred to drop out’ story in Iowa to the press.

Who knows. Certainly makes some sense: Who would be more likely to feed the idea that a candidate was going to drop out and endorse McCain than someone trying to boost McCain – especially at a time when Fred was trying to salvage his candidacy in IA even while McCain was competing for many of the same non-/anti-Mitt voters? McCain’s relatively high finish in IA with minimal campaigning was key to building his NH surge, while Fred’s biggest problems have been the mutually reinforcing issues of electability and funding. Think of the NR endorsement: The only substantive reason given for choosing Mitt over Fred was that Fred hadn’t demonstrated a willingness or ability to campaign vigorously – i.e., with a chance to win. The voters and donors have reached or intuited the same conclusion. As Patrick Ruffini likes to say, voters in primaries will generally gravitate to a candidate in their comfort zone with a chance to win.

Fred’s already shown that he’s well within the comfort zone of every main Republican constituency group. His early numbers before the long swoon that began in the Summer showed that. His main obstacle at the moment is the lost perception that he really has a chance.

CK MacLeod on January 15, 2008 at 1:01 PM

Fred needs to start a race war with McCain. It worked for Obama!

froghat on January 15, 2008 at 1:02 PM

Fred doth protest too much there about the stalking horse thing. I suspect McCain told him at the meeting this morning – “Fred, make sure to say something mildly negative about me because they are catching on to our stalking horse tactic. And say it’s Huckabee that’s behind it so others won’t associate themselves with this ugly rumor”.

Buddahpundit on January 15, 2008 at 1:04 PM

For McCain this wasn’t even a jab with any hip rotation.

McCain hasn’t felt any landed punches, he’s finally starting to show some wearing down effects but somebody needs to and damn well soon land a solid hook to the jaw on Johnnie libseed or we’re looking at what could be a net result worse than Pres. Bush.

Speakup on January 15, 2008 at 1:15 PM

Would it be wrong to pray for Mike Huckabee to loose and for Fred to win the nomination?

GatewayMac on January 15, 2008 at 1:16 PM

I smell smoke……..Is that the fire in the belly we`ve waited for?

ThePrez on January 15, 2008 at 1:16 PM

Fred doth protest too much there about the stalking horse thing.
Buddahpundit on January 15, 2008 at 1:04 PM

Dude. He didn’t lead with it, he was asked that question. Bad analysis happens when your eyes are Hucked up.

geckomon on January 15, 2008 at 1:16 PM

Fred! is looking pretty gaunt this morning.

If he wins the election, he’d look like the cryptkeeper by the end of his term. :)

rockbend on January 15, 2008 at 1:18 PM

somebody needs to and damn well soon land a solid hook to the jaw on Johnnie libseed or we’re looking at what could be a net result worse than Pres. Bush.

Speakup on January 15, 2008 at 1:15 PM

That is a great piece of wisdom that should scare real conservatives into voting for the real deal…..FRED!!!

azcop on January 15, 2008 at 1:23 PM

Mcguyver on January 15, 2008 at 11:52 AM

If only Romney were a real conservative rather than a blow-dried phony.

If only…

Centerfire on January 15, 2008 at 1:24 PM

Centerfire on January 15, 2008 at 1:24 PM

Lost?

geckomon on January 15, 2008 at 1:30 PM

Although the popular opinions of his starting late, playing too soft,etc,are out there. I think he has a slow burn strategy that follows his timetable and no one else’s.Surprises like this perhaps enforce that notion.
bbz123 on January 15, 2008 at 12:12 PM

I don’t see a problem with that. We’ve all seen how Romney’s “win Iowa at all costs” strategy turned out for him. Huckabee’s bounce seems to be a flash in the pan. A year’s worth of campaigning haven’t put Giuliani into the double digits in any real race. Now McCain is taking his turn in the limelight – and his thin skin doesn’t deal well with that.

Think about it: the media told us all those guys were sure unstoppable. That’s a pretty easy bubble to burst.

And what’s the media byline on Thompson? That he he “can’t get any traction.” In the short-run that’s a self-fulfilling meme, but in a race this volatile it could evaporate in one state.

logis on January 15, 2008 at 1:30 PM

Rush just had a guy call in and he said “I cant believe people are calling in saying if Huck or McCain win the primary that they are staying home.” He continued “I call these people TV Republicans as in tunnel vision republicans, dont they know that a democrat will get elected?”

Rush finished very simply before going to break:

“Sir, if either of those get elected it is the end of the Republican Party and sir there are a LOT more like her out there in this country that will be staying home.”

broker1 on January 15, 2008 at 1:33 PM

I think Fred has been reading the Stalking Horse posts at HotAir.
Thats a good thing, get fired up Fred!
Gather up your staffers in circle, jump up and down and yell…kill, kill, kill, kill.

Speakup on January 15, 2008 at 1:35 PM

“Sir, if either of those get elected it is the end of the Republican Party and sir there are a LOT more like her out there in this country that will be staying home.”

I’m one of them. Although I won’t stay home. I will vote. But I will cast a write in vote for Fred!

SimplyKimberly on January 15, 2008 at 1:36 PM

Gather up your staffers in circle, jump up and down and yell…kill, kill, kill, kill.

Speakup on January 15, 2008 at 1:35 PM

… with cold blue steel.

Editor on January 15, 2008 at 1:40 PM

“Sir, if either of those get elected it is the end of the Republican Party and sir there are a LOT more like her out there in this country that will be staying home.”

AP didn’t believe me when I said that ‘lo these many weeks ago, but that’s exactly what I would do. Still.

wccawa on January 15, 2008 at 1:50 PM

Here comes Fred!

Snooper on January 15, 2008 at 1:51 PM

So I take it that Fred is regretting his decision to endorse McCain’s presidential bid in 2000, as well as joining the McCain campaign as its national cochairman?

medguy on January 15, 2008 at 1:52 PM

And here’s one of the first hits on McCain. Especially if McCain wins MI, there will be many more. However, if Mitt wins MI (as I think he will), McCain will lose some momentum going into SC. Fred can continue to focus on exposing Huckabee as a lib, and touting his own conservate credentials. In that case, I think Fred will be riding a wave coming out of SC with 1st or a close 2nd.

Also, remember he initially wanted 540k for ad buys in SC, and raised about twice that, so he has the budget he needs for the publicity coming into Sat.

cs89 on January 15, 2008 at 1:53 PM

he initially wanted 540k for ad buys in SC, and raised about twice that, so he has the budget he needs for the publicity coming into Sat.

cs89 on January 15, 2008 at 1:53 PM

That and he has the cash on hand to start working Flordia…..Also, no one is paying attention to the home of Gov. Jindal!!!!!

azcop on January 15, 2008 at 2:06 PM

I would so much like to see a knockout cross to McCain’s glass chin of Shamnesty. And then watch his MSM handlers carry him out of the ring. Out. Cold.

McCain’s perfidy last summer in making that midnight change of 90 days to 24 hours for the waiting period for a Z visa was a knife in the back of all American citizens, especially those who became naturalized after following the rules, waiting in line, and respecting our laws.

McCain did NOT learn his lesson. He just said that he would ‘allow’ law enforcement BEFORE he wants to grant instant residency and eventual citizenship to 12 to 30 million illegal aliens.

McCain, here is your lesson: ATTRITION THROUGH ENFORCEMENT works (including in your home state. Go do your f’in homework, you dunce.

fred5678 on January 15, 2008 at 2:10 PM

Damn, Rush! On the phone w/ Newt… “Why is Reaganism not a part of our campaign… EXCEPT FOR MAYBE ONE CANDIDATE?”

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! /rips out hank of hair!

LickyLicky on January 15, 2008 at 2:12 PM

Fred is pounding foward while all the others are on defence. Huck and McCain have a vast history of leaning left and as long as Fred satys on top of that while extolling his clear conservative stand he can’t lose.

HotAirExpert on January 15, 2008 at 2:20 PM

So I take it that Fred is regretting his decision to endorse McCain’s presidential bid in 2000, as well as joining the McCain campaign as its national cochairman?

Fred backed McCain as a friend and John had NOT cast the tax votes and put together Shamnesty by 2000. John left Fred and his positions; Fred changed nothing.

michaelo on January 15, 2008 at 2:30 PM

This guy is good. Trouble is, he may have waited too late to get the ball rolling. We’ll see on Saturday..

therightwinger on January 15, 2008 at 2:34 PM

So I take it that Fred is regretting his decision to endorse McCain’s presidential bid in 2000, as well as joining the McCain campaign as its national cochairman?

What was McCain’s stand on immigration in 2000?
Where was the McCain/Feingold bill in 2000?
Times change, circumstances change, immigration, Feingold weren’t on the map then.
Sheeesh…

right2bright on January 15, 2008 at 2:37 PM

Fred backed McCain as a friend and John had NOT cast the tax votes and put together Shamnesty by 2000. John left Fred and his positions; Fred changed nothing.

Supporting someone for President merely because they are your friend is a pretty weak reason in my view. McCain was really no more conservative in 2000 than he is today; there is just a bigger record of RINOness today. By the way, what exactly was Fred’s immigration position in 2000?

medguy on January 15, 2008 at 2:38 PM

Update: It’ll be fun watching this escalate over the next four days. From Glenn Beck:

Awesome!! Hit him again, Fred!

thirteen28 on January 15, 2008 at 2:38 PM

Has anybody considered that Fred has the goods on McCain and can take him out at will? That maybe he is using Johnny Mac as his “stalking horse”?

TBinSTL on January 15, 2008 at 2:39 PM

If Romney takes Michigan, it’ll blow this thing wide open.

Spolitics on January 15, 2008 at 2:49 PM

Thompson needs to hammer McCain a lot harder in S.C. on the illegal immigration issue. Every time he gets a question on the WOT or national defense, Thompson should be reminding people that we need secure borders and strong law enforcement inside the U.S. — something that McCain’s proposed massive amnesty for illegals will continue to undermine. Rewarding illegal behavior ALWAYS leads to more illegal behavior, not less. Granting amnesty (or a “path to citizenship” or whatever other euphemism McCain chooses to use) to tens of millions of illegal aliens will inevitably lead to many millions more coming here illegally in the future. We will never have secure borders as long as people like McCain continue dangling the possibility of amnesty for people who come here illegally.

AZCoyote on January 15, 2008 at 2:54 PM

Supporting someone for President merely because they are your friend is a pretty weak reason in my view. McCain was really no more conservative in 2000 than he is today; there is just a bigger record of RINOness today.

Oh yeah – I can see the stunning revelation that Fred supported McCain in 2000 sinking a resurgent candidacy. The coup de grace will be the additional shockers that Fred also supported that amnesty maniac Bush in 2000 and 2004!

CK MacLeod on January 15, 2008 at 2:59 PM

What was McCain’s stand on immigration in 2000?
Where was the McCain/Feingold bill in 2000?
Times change, circumstances change, immigration, Feingold weren’t on the map then.
Sheeesh…

The McCain/Feingold bill had just failed a cloture vote in 1999 (a cloture that Thompson supported). It was then awaiting reintroduction by McCain and received the cosponsorship by none other than Fred Thompson. And surprise, surprise: Fred voted in favor of that bill. No difference between Fred and McCain on this issue.

In fact, given these facts, if we had to choose we would have to say that one of the reasons Fred endorsed McCain in 2000 was because McCains campaign finance views aligned with his rather than because they did not.

I’m from Tennessee. Fred’s not all that this website is making him out to be.

medguy on January 15, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Fred has waited until the MI voting starts because he wants it to be as close as possible to further muddy the waters going into SC. His best position is to be coming out of nowhere. Fred is an ambush predator, not a stalker or chaser. He is waiting for them in the South.

TBinSTL on January 15, 2008 at 3:05 PM

McCain will beat Fred on the account that he’s nuts.

froghat on January 15, 2008 at 3:06 PM

I’m from Tennessee. Fred’s not all that this website is making him out to be.

medguy on January 15, 2008 at 3:00 PM

I’m from TN too, and Fred is the best thing the conservative base of the GOP party has right now.

RobTN on January 15, 2008 at 3:07 PM

I know how Custer felt before the Battle of Little Big Horn. Conservatism doesn’t have to end with this election. We must stand up and fight for our ideals. We need to send contributions to Fred to ensure we don’t finish like Custer did. This may be the last stand for Reagan conservatives. We have a good horse, now we have to make sure he has enough ammo. Lets send a clear message to the biased news agencies and show them the dream is not dead!

trs on January 15, 2008 at 3:08 PM

And surprise, surprise: Fred voted in favor of that bill. No difference between Fred and McCain on this issue.

Unlike McCain, Fred has largely disavowed CFR, acknowledged that it didn’t work out as hoped, criticized the final bill as diverging from the draft he co-sponsored. Take it for what it’s worth. I don’t think Fred’s perfect, but I also think that the idea of CFR wasn’t all wrong. Anyway, in this race especially, the idea that your candidate should be perfect going back to the cradle doesn’t move me.

But this does raise an interesting question: Now that Fred is hitting McCain, how will McCain respond, if McCain does decide he needs to respond (an indication that Fred matters)? Somehow, the response seemingly favored by anti-Frederalists here – “He used to support me, wah-wah-wah!” – doesn’t strike me as very powerful.

CK MacLeod on January 15, 2008 at 3:08 PM

Fred just doesn’t get it. No one is saying that he was trying to help McCain by attacking Huckabee all along since he got into the race — only since he has clearly been dead in the polls – THAT’S when he became McCain’s attack dog.

Also noteworthy, Fred said that him being McCain’s attack dog was one of Huckabee’s new talking points. Where has Huck EVER mentioned that at all? In fact, in a “morning joe” interview, he even denounced that. Fred is losing it.

popularpolitics on January 15, 2008 at 3:09 PM

Hey what’s going on here in HA land. A Fredthread and not a peep from BKennedy or HaraldHardradadadadada?

Buttercup on January 15, 2008 at 3:09 PM

Can we all agree that McCain will be the nominee?

froghat on January 15, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Forgetting the “flavor of the day” this still looks like none of the candidates will have enough delegates to lock up the nomination. If this goes to the convention Fred would seem to be the obvious compromise. I would like to see him win the nomination outright but can’t see it happening. Of course this thing changes weekly. McCain was on life support in mid December and look at mid January.

duff65 on January 15, 2008 at 3:17 PM

Long overdue. Let’s hope it’s not too late.

flenser on January 15, 2008 at 3:17 PM

Can we all agree that McCain will be the nominee?

froghat on January 15, 2008 at 3:11 PM

Over my dead a$$.

P. James Moriarty on January 15, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Also noteworthy, Fred said that him being McCain’s attack dog was one of Huckabee’s new talking points. Where has Huck EVER mentioned that at all? In fact, in a “morning joe” interview, he even denounced that. Fred is losing it.

popularpolitics on January 15, 2008 at 3:09 PM

Actually Huck (or perhaps his campaign manager; don’t recall) did say something to that effect. I don’t remember exactly where.

Hollowpoint on January 15, 2008 at 3:18 PM

Maybe Fred’s been reading Hot Air………

Hawkins1701 on January 15, 2008 at 3:19 PM

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