Don’t forget that Islam does have it’s good parts too. If it didn’t, it never would have gotten that far, I don’t believe. It’s just that the bad parts outweigh the good parts.

Vanceone on January 15, 2008 at 2:45 AM

Yea, those parts about banging four chicks at a time and “45 minute marriages” are good parts.

They are very careful to never say that again once I get done with them.

Tuco on January 15, 2008 at 2:03 AM

Indeed! It’s hard to argue with the “Queen of Spain”. They don’t possess the intellect and the nuance. I’ve met some of them too and it’s always fun.

an interest in Koranic criticism is a failsafe way to commit career suicide.

Eliminate the threat to anyone’s career by simply publishing the images online for any and all who are interested to examine, explore, decipher, discuss them. These are not the actual documents we’re talking about. These are images captured on film.

Before the film becomes too brittle – publish the images online with multiple ghost sites posted anonymously.

She has already lost one position based on the false assumption that she can protect Islam’s image by severely restricting access to these images. Few knew of their existance prior to this article. Now the proverbial cat is out of the bag. She is out of her league now. For the sake of all humanity, Post them.

That’s very interesting. For a scholar to publish on this though would be essentially signing one’s own death warrant.

Spirit of 1776 on January 14, 2008 at 11:03 PM

Why do you think they use pseudonyms?

“Mohammadans” is to “Muslims”
what
“Orientals” is to “Asians”

Both sound so danged outDATED.

Shirotayama on January 14, 2008 at 11:23 PM

I disagree on both points (as does my university). Except that on the first one, I use the spelling Mahometan. (And Marlowe, by the way, refers in Tamburlaine to the alcoran.)

Ever try telling a devout Christian the same thing about the Bible…that’s it’s all made up from ancient stories? Eh…at least they don’t try to cut your head off.

SouthernGent on January 14, 2008 at 11:10 PM

That happens all of the time, the difference is, show Christians proof, real proof, and see what the reaction is. After 2,000 years, no one has come up with the proof.
Telling someone you don’t believe them and showing them proof is to totally different things.

Ever try telling a devout Christian the same thing about the Bible…that’s it’s all made up from ancient stories? Eh…at least they don’t try to cut your head off.

SouthernGent on January 14, 2008 at 11:10 PM

Fair enough, we do take our beliefs seriously; however, The Da Vinci Code made tons of money. It was hardly a career ending choice for those involved.

Clearly people have no problem making those statements about the Christian faith.

Some say the Kosacks were dyslectic-look at their alphabet.

Others say the only persons capable of translating the Koran are Pharmacists-only a pharmacist can decipher islamic (doctors) handwriting.

Cyphers written in ‘Sanrift’ and in the sand alway change when the wind blows and their meaning is determined only by the direction the wind was blowing.

Finally, one should always be suspicious of a person who writes from right to left-because they are going in the wrong direction.

If our current Repub pres and a major candidate in the Repub party dont get it, how on earth can we ever fight these Islamist jihadists??

And the Dems are totally lost when it comes to defending the US against the Islamist threat. Obama supports the radical Islamist in Kenya and Bill Clinton had Arafat as his most freqent Whitehouse guest, and Hillary would be as bad or worse.

The fact is that money, mostly oil money is driving these decisions. Until we change that this Islamist threat will not go away.

Mr Marx, her research director…

What is it about that name??

That just seems like a great way to do some rewriting on the sly.

Don’t forget that Islam does have it’s good parts too. If it didn’t, it never would have gotten that far, I don’t believe. It’s just that the bad parts outweigh the good parts.

an interest in Koranic criticism is a failsafe way to commit career suicide.

Spirit, my first boss in the U.S. told me “the only dumb question is the one not asked”.

Entelechy on January 15, 2008 at 12:17 AM

They are very careful to never say that again once I get done with them.

Where’s Robert Spencer on this? I bet he has a thing or three to say on this topic.

TBinSTL on January 14, 2008 at 11:05 PM

Based on comments in his eye opening book, “The Truth about Mohammed”, Spencer seems to believe that Mohammed’s life, as recorded in the hadiths and others sources is likely accurate for the most part. However, he says it doesn’t matter whether he was real or not, what matters is how Muslims use his example to justify their deeds.

If you thought this article was interesting, I recommend spending 30 minutes or so reading the introduction to “Origins of the Qur’an” by Ibn Warraq which you can find here.

Maybe true, maybe not, but there’s a kernel of truth in it :)

Indeed.

Not the destruction of Mecca nor the discrediting of the Koran will stop this madness. It can only be changed one person at a time.

I’d guess, given the Nazis dislike for just about all religions other than national socialism, they were looking for ammo to discredit and destroy it amongst the people who happened to be sitting on top of a lot of oil…after, of course, enlisting them in that other little Nazi project that the Muslims of the time were only too happy to find common cause with – killing all the Jews.

Get them all in on ‘the party’, remove the ‘opiate’, they have nothing left to look to but the state.

Twisted and evil, but it makes sense,