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Jeri Thompson: Huckabee’s not a conservative

posted at 7:20 pm on January 14, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Yeah, it’s couched in terms of “people say he’s not a conservative” but we all know the score.

There’s nothing here that Fred himself hasn’t said before, but per the Pickler/Burnett rule, it’s that much more convincing and persuasive. Good lord.

For the record, Pete Hoekstra pronounces himself “scared” at the prospect of a Huckabee victory tomorrow.

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Too bad she’s not running for something.

JayHaw Phrenzie on January 14, 2008 at 7:21 PM

Linda “Most people would say Mike Huckabee is a Southerner, A republican and a conservative…”

On what planet ? Oh right the Ron Paul planet.

William Amos on January 14, 2008 at 7:23 PM

Jeri Thompson has absolutely NO credibility on this. Huckabee has legitimately explained his tax record in AR . He cut taxes over 90 times, and signed the first broad based tax cut in AR history. He also was working with a 90% democrat legislature. Huckabee has a very conservative record considering his political environment. Also, Huck signed a no-tax pledge to ease any concerns, and also advocates the very conservative fair-tax plan.

Jeri is simply WRONG. Huckabee is a true conservative. His foreign policy says win the war in Iraq, have the strongest, most capable military ever. But he’s liberal because he talks about the poor and environment right? Gimme a break!

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:26 PM

Jeri should totally run for something.

Dunno if you fixed the right column yet, but you wiped it out again.

doubleplusundead on January 14, 2008 at 7:27 PM

But he’s liberal because he talks about the poor and environment right? Gimme a break!

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:26 PM

Among other things.

Editor on January 14, 2008 at 7:27 PM

Huckabee is a true conservative. But he’s liberal because he talks about the poor and environment right? Gimme a break!

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:26 PM

Thanks. Snipped to help others avoid your Huckabee fanaticism in the future.

MadisonConservative on January 14, 2008 at 7:28 PM

Anyone that uses class warfare buzzwords isn’t a Conservative…end of story.

Huck is a snake-oil salesman…don’t be fooled.

Asher on January 14, 2008 at 7:28 PM

she has alot more life in her than her half dead husband

irish_infidel on January 14, 2008 at 7:29 PM

Norah O’Donnell seems shocked at the notion that someone would say Huckster is not a conservative. This woman is supposed to be a top political reporter for her “news” outfit. Where on earth has she been? It’s disturbing.

I think what she and the rest of the MSM reveal is that they all share the viewpoint that if you’re pro-life you must be a conservative, regardless of the remaining 99% of the principles you hold. That position is patently absurd, but that is the media for you.

Nessuno on January 14, 2008 at 7:29 PM

Huckabee is a true conservative

Which is why he helped elect Democrats.

Jeebus, where are all these Huckabee shills coming from? Isn’t there a a bible study class to attend?

HebrewToYou on January 14, 2008 at 7:29 PM

Jeri is simply WRONG. Huckabee is a true conservative. His foreign policy says win the war in Iraq, have the strongest, most capable military ever. But he’s liberal because he talks about the poor and environment right? Gimme a break!

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:26 PM

Yep. Oh, and the fact he pardoned more convicted criminals than the 3 previous governors combined. And he was entirely clueless about the NIE. And he had little knowledge on U.S.-Cuban relations. And that, while he did some lowering of taxes, he raised them as well. And that in his immigration plan he assigned responsibilities to the INS, which no longer exists. And that he wants a national smoking ban. And…

What were we talking about again?

amerpundit on January 14, 2008 at 7:30 PM

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:26 PM

Sounds like you’re blaming the Dems for Huckabee’s failure to uphold conservative principles.

Remember: Romney worked with a Dem legislature, too, and got acheived his conservative goals. Mitt’s record, when compared side-by-side with Huck’s, is league’s ahead of Mike’s.

HYTEAndy on January 14, 2008 at 7:30 PM

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:26 PM

I bet I know what religion you are!

Zetterson on January 14, 2008 at 7:30 PM

Among other things.

I have no problem with Huckabee talking about the poor and environment, cause if someone doesn’t, then our party will shrink into irrelevancy. Are these not issues which we should care about???

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:30 PM

If there’s such a thing as political porn, that was it.

frode on January 14, 2008 at 7:31 PM

Too bad she’s not running for something.

JayHaw Phrenzie on January 14, 2008 at 7:21 PM

You got that right.

Wise Golden on January 14, 2008 at 7:31 PM

Jeebus, where are all these Huckabee shills coming from? Isn’t there a a bible study class to attend?

HebrewToYou on January 14, 2008 at 7:29 PM

I refer you back to the “open registration” thread, some days ago.

wccawa on January 14, 2008 at 7:32 PM

Jeri Thompson has absolutely NO credibility on this. Huckabee has legitimately explained his tax record in AR . He cut taxes over 90 times, and signed the first broad based tax cut in AR history. He also was working with a 90% democrat legislature. Huckabee has a very conservative record considering his political environment. Also, Huck signed a no-tax pledge to ease any concerns, and also advocates the very conservative fair-tax plan.

Jeri is simply WRONG. Huckabee is a true conservative. His foreign policy says win the war in Iraq, have the strongest, most capable military ever. But he’s liberal because he talks about the poor and environment right? Gimme a break!

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:26 PM

Nope, Jeri is RIGHT ON THE MONEY according to Factcheck.org who has called out the liar Huckabee on more than one occasion, to wit:

The former governor previously has claimed to have passed the first broad-based tax cut in Arkansas’ 160-year history. We found that claim to be somewhat exaggerated, as former Gov. Bill Clinton signed an income tax cut that was similar to the one Huckabee championed. But the suggestion that Huckabee was the first in 160 years to cut taxes, period, goes beyond exaggeration into the realm of outright falsehood.

And we’ve said this so many times that we’re considering programming a special key to automatically insert the text: While Huckabee did in fact cut taxes 94 times, many of those cuts were trivial, and overall, Huckabee presided over a more than $500 million net tax increase.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/myrtle_beach_blarney.html

Jeri knows her stuff!

ihasurnominashun on January 14, 2008 at 7:32 PM

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008

Please note the following.

In 2000, Huckabee insisted on controlling the state party’s separate Victory Committee, but the committee’s finances were so poorly handled that a Federal Election Commission investigation resulted in the largest fine ever handed down by the FEC to a state party. That same year Republican Rep. Jay Dickey lost the 4th District seat he’d held for eight years.
In 2001, when conservative Republican lawmakers opposed a higher sales taxes and fees the governor supported, he began calling them “Shiites.” Huckabee’s positions on fiscal policy became indistinguishable from Democrats’ positions. A year later, he openly campaigned against a ballot initiative to remove the sales tax on food and medicine. While he and Rockefeller won re-election in 2002, Sen. Tim Hutchinson didn’t.
In 2003, Huckabee not only begged lawmakers for new taxes to make up a budget shortfall, but he rebuffed conservatives’ (Republicans and a couple of Democrats) plan to cover the shortfall by tapping one-time money and cutting pork. In 2004, President Bush won re-election, but Huckabee campaigned for some Democrats – even some who had Republican opponents – and Republicans lost state legislative seats for the first time since 1990.
In 2005, a term-limited Huckabee frustrated conservatives when he pushed a bill to give in-state college tuition and scholarships to the children of illegal immigrants. The next year, Democrats swept Republicans in every race for statewide constitutional office and Republicans lost legislative seats for the second consecutive election cycle.

You don’t have to go too far from home to find the info you seek, grasshoppa.

Weight of Glory on January 14, 2008 at 7:32 PM

Holy crap Fred couldnt ask for a better Campaign Manager. Even better that shes his wife. I was waiting for her to get mouthy with Jeri and then watch Jeri put her liberal a** in place. Alas it never came.

broker1 on January 14, 2008 at 7:32 PM

I love her!

omnipotent on January 14, 2008 at 7:33 PM

Right column by the way.

I’m surprised at this clip. I’ve really enjoyed her clips before, but she seems kind of low-key her. And instead of going down the list, she said taxes and the rest of what my husband said.

Spirit of 1776 on January 14, 2008 at 7:33 PM

Wow Fred’s got a great wife. Great looking and intelligent.

Huckabee can go suck a bee.

CABE on January 14, 2008 at 7:34 PM

I have no problem with Huckabee talking about the poor and environment, cause if someone doesn’t, then our party will shrink into irrelevancy. Are these not issues which we should care about???

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:30 PM

Honey, they have a party just for you and Huckabee…it’s called the Democrat party…you should check it out. If you would like to know what the Republicans care about…you need to check out Fred08.com

ihasurnominashun on January 14, 2008 at 7:34 PM

I think what she and the rest of the MSM reveal is that they all share the viewpoint that if you’re pro-life you must be a conservative, regardless of the remaining 99% of the principles you hold. That position is patently absurd, but that is the media for you.

Unfortunately, more then just then MSM feel that way.

Resolute on January 14, 2008 at 7:34 PM

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:26 PM

Did the net taxes go up or go down under Huck’s time in AR? Don’t say “he’s answered that”. This morning he sloughed it off by saying he won’t apologize for helping children when asked about taxes (that’s the lib line btw).

Spirit of 1776 on January 14, 2008 at 7:35 PM

He also was working with a 90% democrat legislature.
popularpolitics on January 14, 2008

I wonder what percentage of that 90% Huck campaigned for against a GOP nominee?

Weight of Glory on January 14, 2008 at 7:35 PM

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:30 PM

Yes, we’re all meanies refusing to mention the environment and poor people. That’s why we don’t like him. Not the rest of his Liberal record.

Are there no prisons? Are there no work houses?

amerpundit on January 14, 2008 at 7:35 PM

Are these not issues which we should care about???

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:30 PM

At the Federal level….nope!

Weight of Glory on January 14, 2008 at 7:36 PM

Huck is a conservative?! The leftist media is so freakin’ clueless. In the latest New Yorker David Remnick called Huck a right-wing idealogue. If these people want to cover politics, they should exit their echo-chamber and take a field trip to the U.S.A.

Spolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:36 PM

Huckabee has legitimately explained lied about his tax record in AR . He cut taxes over 90 times, and signed the first broad based tax cut raised taxes almost half a billion dollars in AR history. He also was working with helped to elect a 90% democrat legislature. Huckabee has a very conservative populist record considering his political environment. Also, Huck signed a no-tax pledge to ease any concerns, and also advocates the very conservative fair-tax plan, as well as a supposedly tough anti-illegal plan, all of which are obvious election year ploys in conflict with his record and true beliefs, and which he can of course abandon as soon as he’s nominated.

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:26 PM

There, fixed it for you.

peski on January 14, 2008 at 7:37 PM

Watch popularpolitics get pwned………it’s ever so much fun!!!

omnipotent on January 14, 2008 at 7:37 PM

Yeah, that would be me.

ronsfi on January 14, 2008 at 7:37 PM

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:30 PM

vs

ihasurnominashun on January 14, 2008 at 7:32 PM

winner by a knockout = ihasurnominashun

But, ladies and gentelman, its really not worth arguing with someone like popularpolitics. The facts mean nothing to him/her. Someone like popularpolitics is not to be swayed by those annoying facts. They will go on believing (yes, actually believing) that Huckabee is a conservative. People like that scare me.

Zetterson on January 14, 2008 at 7:37 PM

have no problem with Huckabee talking about the poor and environment, cause if someone doesn’t, then our party will shrink into irrelevancy. Are these not issues which we should care about???

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:30 PM

Yes, we should definately care.

Wise Golden on January 14, 2008 at 7:37 PM

I refer you back to the “open registration” thread, some days ago.

We need a Troll-bane Hammer over here…

If only these Huck supporters actually knew anything about their candidate. All they seem to care about is A) He loves Jesus and B) he plays the bass guitar. What the heck. I certainly hope that most evangelical christians are more like Jeffers and less like the trolls who’ve wandered over here.

I hate to sound conspiratorial, but it almost seems to me like the Democrats know Huckabee stands no chance of winning and are flooding conservative communities in order to promote his candidacy.

HebrewToYou on January 14, 2008 at 7:38 PM

I have no problem with Huckabee talking about the poor and environment, cause if someone doesn’t, then our party will shrink into irrelevancy. Are these not issues which we should care about???

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:30 PM

I don’t either, if he offers real solutions based in conservative principles, he doesn’t.

doubleplusundead on January 14, 2008 at 7:38 PM

Honey, they have a party just for you and Huckabee…it’s called the Democrat party…you should check it out. If you would like to know what the Republicans care about…you need to check out Fred08.com

ihasurnominashun on January 14, 2008 at 7:34 PM

No thanks, I’m not into killing babies and promoting gay pride days like Mitt Romney. I’m also not into having big government control everything like health care.

Talking about the environment and the poor makes me a democrat huh? That’s a pretty poor argument.

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:38 PM

He also was working with a 90% democrat legislature. Huckabee has a very conservative record considering his political environment.

Then, on the same arguments, so is Romney. But Romney isn’t pandering on religion, so Romney surges into a clear lead over Hucklebuck.

snickelfritz on January 14, 2008 at 7:39 PM

Honey, they have a party just for you and Huckabee…it’s called the Democrat party…you should check it out. If you would like to know what the Republicans care about…you need to check out Fred08.com

ihasurnominashun on January 14, 2008 at 7:34 PM

You’re talking for all of us? Have you looked at Newt’s site lately?

Wise Golden on January 14, 2008 at 7:39 PM

But, ladies and gentelman, its really not worth arguing with someone like popularpolitics. The facts mean nothing to him/her. Someone like popularpolitics is not to be swayed by those annoying facts. They will go on believing (yes, actually believing) that Huckabee is a conservative. People like that scare me.

Zetterson on January 14, 2008 at 7:37 PM

Were we watching the same fight?

Wise Golden on January 14, 2008 at 7:40 PM

There you go, right columns back. Did any of you guys bother to notify them in tipline, or was I the only one?

What would you people do without me?

doubleplusundead on January 14, 2008 at 7:41 PM

Did the net taxes go up or go down under Huck’s time in AR? Don’t say “he’s answered that”. This morning he sloughed it off by saying he won’t apologize for helping children when asked about taxes (that’s the lib line btw).

Spirit of 1776 on January 14, 2008 at 7:35 PM

I guess Reagan wasn’t a conservative either huh? He raised taxes by a billion dollars in California! Don’t be biased now, was Reagan a conservative or not, based on his California tax record??

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:41 PM

Conservatism is defined by how you view the role of the government in people’s lives — i.e. limited government. It’s not the fact that Huck talks about the poor that’s the problem, it’s that he seems to believe the answer to their problems is more government.

Spolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:41 PM

Yes, we should definately care.

Wise Golden on January 14, 2008 at 7:37 PM

Sure! So that’s a great reason to keep it out of the hands of the Federal government!

Spirit of 1776 on January 14, 2008 at 7:42 PM

Open letter to Jeri Thompson:
Jeri,
Please move to my once proud State of Illinois and take out (electorally, that is) the disgraceful Senator Turbin.
Thank You,
Jeff

cherokeejeff on January 14, 2008 at 7:42 PM

I’m also not into having big government control everything like health care.
popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:38 PM

Okaaaaay! Then just out of curiosity, what “limited government” approach to the environment does Huck support?

Weight of Glory on January 14, 2008 at 7:42 PM

Talking about the environment and the poor makes me a democrat huh? That’s a pretty poor argument.

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:38 PM

If that makes me a Democrat, then I’ll just have to become one. So will Newt. GWB43, Reagan. McCain. Romney. Rudy. It’s going to get pretty lonely in the GOP if that makes you a Democrat.

Wise Golden on January 14, 2008 at 7:43 PM

I’m also not into having big government control everything like health care.

Talking about the environment and the poor makes me a democrat huh? That’s a pretty poor argument.

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:38 PM

popularpolitics, are you aware that Huckabee wants a carbon tax? Seriously, do you call someone who wants to tax carbon emmissions a big governement liberal? I do. How about his call for a federal ban on cigarette smoking in public? Is that a big government position that you agree with? Huckabee does.

Zetterson on January 14, 2008 at 7:44 PM

Jeri is simply WRONG. Huckabee is a true conservative. His foreign policy says win the war in Iraq, have the strongest, most capable military ever. But he’s liberal because he talks about the poor and environment right? Gimme a break!

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:26 PM

This is bizarrely misinformed for a commenter on this site.

Let’s take these on by one. First, a “true conservative” is someone who is socially conservative (check), economically conservative (no check), conservative on foreign policy (no check), and it absolutely essential to believe in limited government (a big whopping no check).

Economically, Huck chose to raise taxes to get revenue rather than limit government programs. His rhetoric adopts all the language of the American left as he demonize business and supply-siders (think “Club for Greed” comment).

On foreign policy, he advocates a John Kerry-esque global test, talking about our “arrogant bunker mentality” (again adopting the language of the left). He wants to shut down Gitmo, not because it doesn’t work but because it makes us look bad. On Iran, he analogizes foreign policy to the relationship between children, which is stunningly naive and foolish. The man is the second coming of Jimmy Carter’s foreign policy.

As for the touchstone of conservatism, limited government, Huckabee is absolutely terrible. His mentality is that if something is good, then there should be a government program to support it; if something is bad, the government must make a program to stop it. How else to explain the fact that he wants a national smoking ban, national nutritional programs, mandated art and music curricula at schools, and hates school choice?

So, other than being pro-life, how is this man even remotely conservative? Do you think that in his heart he agrees with the mantra, “the government that governs least governs best”? No.

Nessuno on January 14, 2008 at 7:44 PM

Talking about the environment and the poor makes me a democrat huh? That’s a pretty poor argument.

How about shilling for a Democrat makes you a Democrat? Because that’s what you’re doing.

HebrewToYou on January 14, 2008 at 7:45 PM

As the saying goes,behind every great man,stands a woman
and that’s Jerri,and she seems to have a lot more brains
than Hillary.

canopfor on January 14, 2008 at 7:45 PM

I guess Reagan wasn’t a conservative either huh? He raised taxes by a billion dollars in California! Don’t be biased now, was Reagan a conservative or not, based on his California tax record??

That’s a legit argument. But the reality of his time is that the net tax went up 500m. When he says he cut taxes 94 times the idea is to create a false impression. You are doing the same thing. Him HAD to sign the tax pledge because he has no credibility on this issue and his word (see Bush 41) means less than his previous actions. If like Reagan, we knew he was conservative, that might be a blip. But he isn’t conservative on several issues, so here it appears much more a pattern.

Spirit of 1776 on January 14, 2008 at 7:45 PM

Okaaaaay! Then just out of curiosity, what “limited government” approach to the environment does Huck support?

Weight of Glory on January 14, 2008 at 7:42 PM

Alternative energies that will create the next economic boom. Do you realize that we stand to gain 400 Billion in trade by developing these technologies?

Wise Golden on January 14, 2008 at 7:46 PM

Zetterson on January 14, 2008 at 7:44 PM

Shhhhhhh! If you keep at it, he/she might realize that the HA family knows more about his candidate than he/she does.

Weight of Glory on January 14, 2008 at 7:46 PM

Okaaaaay! Then just out of curiosity, what “limited government” approach to the environment does Huck support?

Weight of Glory on January 14, 2008 at 7:42 PM

Huck has stated numerous times that he doesn’t “worship” the environment, ala liberal whackos, but that we should be good stewards of the environment. That doesn’t mean that we can’t or shouldn’t use it for practical things for our nation like drilling in ANWAR if we have to for oil.

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:46 PM

I guess Reagan wasn’t a conservative either huh? He raised taxes by a billion dollars in California! Don’t be biased now, was Reagan a conservative or not, based on his California tax record??

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:41 PM

So when your statement that Huck lowered taxes is shown to be false because he raised taxes, rather than admit it you prop up and example to show that people who raise taxes can be conservative? Will you at least first admit that he did raise taxes, and that he has not “legitimately explained” squat?

peski on January 14, 2008 at 7:46 PM

Wise Golden on January 14, 2008 at 7:43 PM

I’m pretty sure ihasurnominashun’s whole argument about you joining the Democratic Party wasn’t solely based on the environment and the poor.

amerpundit on January 14, 2008 at 7:47 PM

No thanks, I’m not into killing babies and promoting gay pride days like Mitt Romney. I’m also not into having big government control everything like health care.

Talking about the environment and the poor makes me a democrat huh? That’s a pretty poor argument.

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:38 PM

Well, Huckabee wants to control your health in so far as he wants a NATIONAL ban on smoking. Talking about raising up the poor is what the Republican party is about….not dividing the classes like Huck does. As to the environment, the states should definitely be invested in caring about the environment. You want big government by the very fact that you are supporting Huck.

ihasurnominashun on January 14, 2008 at 7:47 PM

I want to see a potential first lady debate! I’ve never seen Ron Paul’s wife. Is he married? And having Mr. Clinton up there would be a hoot.

SouthernGent on January 14, 2008 at 7:48 PM

Alternative energies that will create the next economic boom. Do you realize that we stand to gain 400 Billion in trade by developing these technologies?

Wise Golden on January 14, 2008 at 7:46 PM

Market forces….fine! Imposition by the federal govt. through countless regulations and taxes, negatory good budy.

Weight of Glory on January 14, 2008 at 7:48 PM

I guess Reagan wasn’t a conservative either huh? He raised taxes by a billion dollars in California! Don’t be biased now, was Reagan a conservative or not, based on his California tax record??

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:41 PM

Why did you just go from lying about whether Huckabee actually raised taxes to a defense of Reagan tax increases in California?

Believe me Huckabee is no Reagan. That is for sure. More of a cross between Clinton and Jimmah Carter though.

Zetterson on January 14, 2008 at 7:48 PM

Jeri is very scared of Huckabee and knows Huck will win south carolina and win the nomination…it’s too bad for Fred that his wife wants him to be president FAR more than he does!

HaraldHardrada on January 14, 2008 at 7:48 PM

Fredheads: there is a “10 at 10″ op tonight to put Fred over the $1 million mark. Everyone send $10 at 10pm (your own time zone, although personally I think it would be cool to melt the server).

You know where.

wccawa on January 14, 2008 at 7:49 PM

If that makes me a Democrat, then I’ll just have to become one.

Please do. I’d rather have my local and state gov’t tackle those issues. I’d rather my federal executive focus on issues like Illegal Immigration, National Defense, and expanding the power of his political party.

Huckabee doesn’t care about any of that. He had to borrow someone else’s immigration plan; he called our sitting REPUBLICAN president’s foreign policy arrogant; and he’s actively worked to elect Democrats. Why in blue blazes would ANY sane GOP member vote for Huck?

I swear. Somebody needs to smack these Huck shills with the clue-bat.

HebrewToYou on January 14, 2008 at 7:49 PM

popularpolitics, are you aware that Huckabee wants a carbon tax? Seriously, do you call someone who wants to tax carbon emmissions a big governement liberal? I do. How about his call for a federal ban on cigarette smoking in public? Is that a big government position that you agree with? Huckabee does.

Well not necessarily, but look at where he is coming from. It’s a public workplace safety issue. You wouldn’t allow radon gas to be poured into the workplace would you? You wouldn’t want marijuana or other hazardous toxins to be in the workplace would you?

It’s not a total ban, as he said it should be allowed in private settings, and even places that cater to that sort of thing like bars and what have you. But thins position does not eliminate him automatically as “liberal.” Definitely not.

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:50 PM

popularpolitics, are you aware that Huckabee wants a carbon tax? Seriously, do you call someone who wants to tax carbon emmissions a big governement liberal? I do. How about his call for a federal ban on cigarette smoking in public? Is that a big government position that you agree with? Huckabee does.

Zetterson on January 14, 2008 at 7:44 PM

Carbon tax = very bad for oil. Very bad for oil= very bad for oil producers. Oil producers = Russia, Venezualia, Iran, ect. Alternative energy = very good for American Technology companies, car companies and land owners/ farmers. Very good for these folks = higher tax revenue for government = lower need for personal taxes.

Wise Golden on January 14, 2008 at 7:50 PM

Jeri is very scared of Huckabee and knows Huck will win south carolina and win the nomination…it’s too bad for Fred that his wife wants him to be president FAR more than he does!

HaraldHardrada on January 14, 2008 at 7:48 PM

We’re all afraid Huck will win the nomination, because he’ll destroy the conservative coalition and the Dems will have a lock on DC.

doubleplusundead on January 14, 2008 at 7:51 PM

Why did you just go from lying about whether Huckabee actually raised taxes to a defense of Reagan tax increases in California?

Zetterson on January 14, 2008 at 7:48 PM

Hey, I said that. So I guess I agree.

peski on January 14, 2008 at 7:51 PM

I want to see a potential first lady debate! I’ve never seen Ron Paul’s wife. Is he married? And having Mr. Clinton up there would be a hoot.

SouthernGent on January 14, 2008 at 7:48 PM

A most excellent suggestion. And yes, Cletis would make an interesting first lady, no?

wccawa on January 14, 2008 at 7:51 PM

but that we should be good stewards of the environment.

I’m the cleanest person on my street. I go out after the trash men come and pick up whatever falls out of the back of the truck. And I do it without Huck or the Feds. Americans are very very good stewards.

Weight of Glory on January 14, 2008 at 7:51 PM

HaraldHardrada on January 14, 2008 at 7:48 PM

Its too bad for us if Huck gets the nomination because we will end up with a Dem for a president…well..not that there would be much of a difference if Huck won the election.

EnochCain on January 14, 2008 at 7:51 PM

Market forces….fine! Imposition by the federal govt. through countless regulations and taxes, negatory good budy.

Weight of Glory on January 14, 2008 at 7:48 PM

Normally I would agree. However, there are a few (and I mean very few) things that require the government. Defense. Transportation. Energy. These are three examples that I can think of.

Wise Golden on January 14, 2008 at 7:51 PM

Mitt/Fred ‘08
Jeri/Mitt ‘08

malan89 on January 14, 2008 at 7:52 PM

I swear. Somebody needs to smack these Huck shills with the clue-bat.

HebrewToYou on January 14, 2008 at 7:49 PM

This isn’t about Huck anymore. It’s about our party not being in agreement anymore. It’s far more serious that Huck.

Wise Golden on January 14, 2008 at 7:54 PM

So when your statement that Huck lowered taxes is shown to be false because he raised taxes, rather than admit it you prop up and example to show that people who raise taxes can be conservative? Will you at least first admit that he did raise taxes, and that he has not “legitimately explained” squat?

peski on January 14, 2008 at 7:46 PM

No, he did raise taxes but in a way that does not make him a “chronic tax hiker” etc. He did initiate cut taxes was my point, and the fact that taxes were net higher doesn’t make him a liberal just as it didn’t make Reagan a liberal.

. And he “legitimately explained” his position inasmuch as he explained why the taxes were needed and even approved on first by AR citizens in the case of the road revamping..

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:54 PM

Normally I would agree. However, there are a few (and I mean very few) things that require the government. Defense. Transportation. Energy. These are three examples that I can think of.

Wise Golden on January 14, 2008 at 7:51 PM

What we have here is a failure to communicate.

Weight of Glory on January 14, 2008 at 7:54 PM

Mitt/Fred ‘08
Jeri/Mitt ‘08
Fred/Jeri ‘08

wccawa on January 14, 2008 at 7:55 PM

Market forces….fine! Imposition by the federal govt. through countless regulations and taxes, negatory good budy.

Weight of Glory on January 14, 2008 at 7:48 PM

In fact an article out just today points out that the government mandated fuel efficiency requirement on new model cars will increase the cost of cars by $6K by the end of the decade. Thanks Big Brother….NOT

ihasurnominashun on January 14, 2008 at 7:55 PM

And he “legitimately explained” his position inasmuch as he explained why the taxes were needed and even approved on first by AR citizens in the case of the road revamping..

Like any good socialist would.

peski on January 14, 2008 at 7:55 PM

Like Peter Robinson of NRO asks,

Red truck levitating?

We need less than $25,000 to make our goal of $1M by midnight.

A new challenge has been issued to every FredHead to donate $10 at 10:00 pm local time.

Not sure if a Red Chevy pickup truck could lift off. Or whether a campaign server could levitate. Sure would like to see it though!

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTJhZjQ4YjAyNDMwZjBmMmJjOTdiNzNhNWZhYjQ4NTg=

FredHeads are you in? $10 at 10:00 local time…

http://www.fred08.com

redneck hippie on January 14, 2008 at 7:56 PM

I’m the cleanest person on my street. I go out after the trash men come and pick up whatever falls out of the back of the truck. And I do it without Huck or the Feds. Americans are very very good stewards.

Weight of Glory on January 14, 2008 at 7:51 PM

What about energy security?

Wise Golden on January 14, 2008 at 7:56 PM

If Schmuckabee is a conservative, then Reagan was a liberal.

Its OK to be a pro-life liberal like Huck is, I just dont like it when he lies about it so much.

Dishonesty is NOT a Christian virtue.

Roger Waters on January 14, 2008 at 7:56 PM

We’re all afraid Huck will win the nomination, because he’ll destroy the conservative coalition and the Dems will have a lock on DC.

doubleplusundead gets it. Most all HotAir commentators get it. Huck! will destroy the GOP once and for all, which is why I highly suspect that Democrats are behind this recent surge of Huck shilling.

The only folks who would benefit from a Huckabee nomination are the folks running against the GOP.

HebrewToYou on January 14, 2008 at 7:56 PM

In October 2003, Governor Mike Huckabee took a state airplane to visit Presidente Fox in Mexico. With him was Robert Trevino, state director of LULAC, Huckabee’s economic development policy adviser, and later appointed by Huckabee as commissioner of Arkansas Rehabilitation Services.

The two of them helped arrange state and private financial support for a new Mexican Consulate in Arkansas. A contractor has already been paid $60,000 by City of Little Rock check (TAXPAYER FUNDS) to start construction on the new consulate. Meanwhile, the Mexican Consulate is enjoying discount office space in a state office for just $1 per year.

What’s the consulate up to? Why, passing out “Matricula Consular” ID cards to illegal aliens, of course, and encouraging civic leaders to advocate for illegal immigration. Who will be paying the mortgage? Not Mexico. No, some Arkansas business leaders and corporations.

The whole stinking deal aggressively lobbied for and put together by MIKE HUCKABEE.

Nope, not a conservative.

RushBaby on January 14, 2008 at 7:56 PM

In fact an article out just today points out that the government mandated fuel efficiency requirement on new model cars will increase the cost of cars by $6K by the end of the decade. Thanks Big Brother….NOT

ihasurnominashun on January 14, 2008 at 7:55 PM

Oh, but ethanol will save us (more big gummint at work)! That way we can pay for our gas at the gas station AND the grocery store with higher food prices!

snickelfritz on January 14, 2008 at 7:57 PM

That doesn’t mean that we can’t or shouldn’t use it for practical things for our nation like drilling in ANWAR if we have to for oil.

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:46 PM

Is that what Huck said, or your interpretation of some comment he made?

BacaDog on January 14, 2008 at 7:57 PM

Talking about the environment and the poor makes me a democrat huh? That’s a pretty poor argument.

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:38 PM

Gawd man, get a clue. You are addressing the issues (a.k.a. problems) rather than his liberal solutions to those problems.

It isn’t liberal to have an environmental policy; it’s liberal to have an environmental policy that is based on taxation, regulation, and suppressing economic behavior. A conservative solution would be to directly incorporate the cost of the externalities into the cost of doing business and let the market limit the detrimental behavior. A conservative would seek to foster innovation rather than rely on governmental central planning.

On “the poor”, a liberal demonizes the wealthy (otherwise known as employers) and seeks to redistribute wealth through tax hikes. A conservatives seeks to deregulate the economy, unburden businesses and encourage wealth creation in order for the poor to become rich.

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Popularpolitics, I refuse to believe you are so dense as to actually hold the views you seem to hold. My faith Hot Air readers won’t allow me to. I therefore must conclude you are a troll.

Nessuno on January 14, 2008 at 7:57 PM

Jeri is very scared of Huckabee and knows Huck will win south carolina and win the nomination…it’s too bad for Fred that his wife wants him to be president FAR more than he does!

HaraldHardrada on January 14, 2008 at 7:48 PM

True, but you gotta admit…she would be one fine first lady.

Wise Golden on January 14, 2008 at 7:57 PM

No, he did raise taxes but in a way that does not make him a “chronic tax hiker” etc. He did initiate cut taxes was my point, and the fact that taxes were net higher doesn’t make him a liberal just as it didn’t make Reagan a liberal.

. And he “legitimately explained” his position inasmuch as he explained why the taxes were needed and even approved on first by AR citizens in the case of the road revamping..

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:54 PM

Road Repairs…another lie Huck is trying to pass off

I took on the worst road system in the country, according to Trucker’s Magazine. When I left, they said it was the most improved road system in the country.

For starters, Huckabee gets the name of the magazine wrong (we’re familiar with that phenomenon, too). The magazine in question is called Overdrive, and according to Editor Linda Longton, “Huckabee referred to Arkansas’ rank at the top of Overdrive’s Worst Roads list in 1999 and our Most Improved list in 2004.”

What Huckabee neglects to mention is that while Arkansas tops the most improved roads list in 2004, it still came in at No. 4 on that year’s worst roads list. According to one of Overdrive’s survey respondents: “Arkansas is trying. It’s better than it was, but they have a long way to go.”

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/myrtle_beach_blarney.html

ihasurnominashun on January 14, 2008 at 7:57 PM

Well not necessarily, but look at where he is coming from. It’s a public workplace safety issue. You wouldn’t allow radon gas to be poured into the workplace would you? You wouldn’t want marijuana or other hazardous toxins to be in the workplace would you?

It’s not a total ban, as he said it should be allowed in private settings, and even places that cater to that sort of thing like bars and what have you. But thins position does not eliminate him automatically as “liberal.” Definitely not.

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:50 PM

You’re right, there are lots of Nanny Staters on the right too who like to dictate morality…and I’m equally disgusted by them too.

I’m done with accepting Nanny Bans, we’ll turn into Britain Airstrip One in no time if we don’t put a stop to it soon, its On Ne Passe Pas! time on this Nanny Ban crap.

And my transformation into MB4 continues…

“Of all tyrannies a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be ‘cured’ against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals. But to be punished, however severely, because we have deserved it, because we ‘ought to have known better,’ is to be treated as a human person made in God’s image.” – CS Lewis

doubleplusundead on January 14, 2008 at 7:58 PM

Like any good socialist would.

peski on January 14, 2008 at 7:55 PM

People are always clamoring for higher taxes, to take care of budget shortfalls. (some one quietly says cut spending, but is then told by Huck to sit down.)

Weight of Glory on January 14, 2008 at 7:58 PM

Well not necessarily, but look at where he is coming from. It’s a public workplace safety issue. You wouldn’t allow radon gas to be poured into the workplace would you? You wouldn’t want marijuana or other hazardous toxins to be in the workplace would you?

It’s not a total ban, as he said it should be allowed in private settings, and even places that cater to that sort of thing like bars and what have you. But thins position does not eliminate him automatically as “liberal.” Definitely not.

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:50 PM

You don’t really understand the way the free market and capitalism works do you? Of course your a Huckabee supporter.

Zetterson on January 14, 2008 at 7:58 PM

I like Fred but I’m disconcerted by the fact that he (and Jeri) are not challenging McCain. After all, he is the front runner in SC.

Spolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:59 PM

This isn’t about Huck anymore. It’s about our party not being in agreement anymore. It’s far more serious that Huck.

That’s absurd. It’s as simple as I’m making it out to be. There are only two candidates that, if nominated, would destroy the conservative coalition: Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee. Ron Paul stands a whelks chance in a supernova of getting the nomination, so nobody is really paying much attention to him.

But Huck has all the line-toeing Christians in lock-step and it’s going to destroy this party. Shame on his supporters for being so bloody myopic.

HebrewToYou on January 14, 2008 at 7:59 PM

Normally I would agree. However, there are a few (and I mean very few) things that require the government. Defense. Transportation. Energy. These are three examples that I can think of.

Wise Golden on January 14, 2008 at 7:51 PM
What we have here is a failure to communicate.

Weight of Glory on January 14, 2008 at 7:54 PM

Which of these three am I wrong on?

Wise Golden on January 14, 2008 at 7:59 PM

I would rather have a democrat as president then Huckabee. With a democrat, you pave the way for a REAL republican like Mitt next time. If Huck gets in, the electorate will be as confused about the difference between a conservative and a liberal as the Hucksters are today.

I am starting to believe fundamentalists arent the sharpest tools in the shed. They seem to be a few french fries short of a happy meal.

Roger Waters on January 14, 2008 at 8:00 PM

Is that what Huck said, or your interpretation of some comment he made?

BacaDog on January 14, 2008 at 7:57 PM

That’s what Huck said. See here.

“While I want to reduce our dependence on oil, I especially want to reduce our dependence on imported oil as fully and quickly as possible. We need to get oil and gas from ANWR and our continental shelves. We need safe, clean, and economical nuclear power.”

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 8:00 PM

It’s not a total ban, as he said it should be allowed in private settings, and even places that cater to that sort of thing like bars and what have you. But thins position does not eliminate him automatically as “liberal.” Definitely not.

popularpolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:50 PM

Well, that’s really big of Huck to “allow” folks to smoke in private settings.

Sounds like our Democratic Governor Tim Kaine here in Virginia.

BacaDog on January 14, 2008 at 8:01 PM

I like Fred but I’m disconcerted by the fact that he (and Jeri) are not challenging McCain. After all, he is the front runner in SC.

Spolitics on January 14, 2008 at 7:59 PM

Fred’s running for VP, not President. Huckabee might be as well — not sure yet.

Wise Golden on January 14, 2008 at 8:02 PM

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