Shock poll: Mitt leads McCain by eight in Michigan?
posted at 1:30 pm on January 13, 2008 by Allahpundit
No foolin’. That’s not the only new poll showing him with a little breathing room either, although two other new ones have Maverick clinging to a one-point lead. Good news or bad news for Fred? A disaster in Michigan might have led Romney to drop out, with his SC supporters naturally gravitating to Thompson, but since a disaster was never very likely and a close second probably would be enough to keep him in the race, a Mitt victory that stops McCain cold is probably the second-best outcome for Fredheads. Having Huck, Mac, and Mitt split the first three primaries neutralizes the momentum for all of them and lowers the threshold needed for an upset in South Carolina. And since Mitt won’t be running any ads in the state (or will that now change?), his own bounce in SC is likely to be small.
Does it matter? Nah:
Today, all the usual indicators are dismal for Republicans. If that broad assertion seems counterintuitive, produce a counterexample. The adverse indicators include: shifts in voters’ identifications with the two parties (Democrats now 50 percent, Republicans 36 percent); the tendency of independents (they favored Democratic candidates by 18 points in 2006); the fact that Democrats hold a majority of congressional seats in states with 303 electoral votes; the Democrats’ strength and the Republicans’ relative weakness in fundraising; the percentage of Americans who think the country is on the “wrong track”; the Republicans’ enthusiasm deficit relative to Democrats’ embrace of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, one of whom will be nominated.
Below you’ll find a new ad set to start airing today on Fox News and Michigan local stations. It’s standard Romney abortion flip-flop fare, but with a big twist — the group that’s responsible is Republican Majority for Choice. Why are they wasting their money trying to take him down in Michigan when the two alternatives, McCain and Huckabee, are also pro-life? Why not wait until Florida to run it so that Giuliani benefits?
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Mike Huckabee is an aberation, that’s all there is to it.
He cannot fool everybody all the time.
Mcguyver on January 13, 2008 at 1:34 PM
GO MITT GO!!! McTraitor McCain is such a damn RINO. We all need to move on from him and his ilk.
Gartrip on January 13, 2008 at 1:37 PM
Republican Majority for Choice. Aren’t those the Lincoln Chafee type folks? I think its fair to say that many people who aren’t in support of outlawing abortion wouldn’t “wish to be labeled pro-choice”. This was the position Mitt took until about 2001, before he was morally opposed, while preserving its legality. In 2001, he did some personal introspection and changed his position on legality. From what I understand, Romney only changed his position once in regards to abortion. He is allowed to do that and pro-lifers should welcome anybody with open arms.
malan89 on January 13, 2008 at 1:38 PM
Man not to be so negative but, we are gonna get steamrolled. With McCain maybe it’s a lighter steamroller, but still.
Hopefully I’m wrong and the party comes together after this haphazard primary but meh…
Dash on January 13, 2008 at 1:41 PM
The only strategy that can possibly win for Republicans is to nominate either Fred or Mitt (Hunter as VP??) and pound on illegal immigration, which can unite the majority of both Democrats and Republicans – but only if we frame the discussion in terms of
amnestyREWARDS for illegal aliens.See the Zogby poll, which is the only poll that offers all three choices – instead of Bush, McCain, Kennedy, et al: “You can’t deport 12 million undocumented (sic) workers, THEREFORE (sic) we have to give them citizenship.” Attrition by enforcement-only is WORKING.
fred5678 on January 13, 2008 at 1:42 PM
DailyKOS: Let’s Vote for Mitt!
bnelson44 on January 13, 2008 at 1:44 PM
The republican race won’t be any where near determined, until after Super Tuesday if even then. Rudy isn’t out, no one is, but Paul. A brokered convention is a distinct possibility. Win or lose, this election, first and foremost is about the future of Conservatism and the heart and soul of the Republican Party.
Nyog_of_the_Bog on January 13, 2008 at 1:46 PM
New York conservative party will endorce Fred! IF he breaks out in SC. Channel 4 (wnbc) interview.
P. James Moriarty on January 13, 2008 at 1:48 PM
I would rather lose with Mitt, Fred!, or Rudy than win with McCain or Huckleberry.
Why? Because if either of those idiots win it will spell disaster for conservatives for decades. The nomination of Huck or McCain would be a desertion of the principles that have held the Republican party together for thirty years.
Jeff_McAwesome on January 13, 2008 at 1:49 PM
McCain and Hickabee are RINOS. Their time at the head of the pack is limited. Michigan will start the erosion process.
volsense on January 13, 2008 at 1:52 PM
Another day, another poll, another rundown on a new Who’s In/Who’s Out list. And tomorrow it’ll all be different all over again. Feh.
snickelfritz on January 13, 2008 at 2:00 PM
That is in line with this poll.
http://www.thesitrep.com/pres.htm
Fred crushes everyone by miles. I smell a lot of tampering and dishonesty in the major polls.
CNN even left Fred out of there propaganda piece.
Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate!
TheSitRep on January 13, 2008 at 2:00 PM
Epic. I repeat -Epic- losses in November.
lorien1973 on January 13, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Fred is the Ron Paul of mainstream conservatism. The heads believe he can win, despite all evidence to the contrary. Just like the ronulans, they believe in the media blackout. They believe the polls are flawed and online polls reliable. They believe in his beliefs; despite the fact that his campaign is not run very well. Etc Etc Etc. The similarities are quite striking.
Fredheads need to wake up. He isn’t going to be the nominee; he’s running for VP. Rudy/Fred would be a perfectly acceptable ticket.
lorien1973 on January 13, 2008 at 2:03 PM
The Nightmare Scenario of forcing Republicans to choose between McCain and Huckabee looks like it might be averted. Might….
If Mitt wins in Michigan and Fred does better than McCain in South Carolina (a definite possibility as Fred surges and McCain comes off a Michigan loss), then McCain might be knocked out by this time next week.
If Fred goes so far as to beat both McCain AND Huckabee, then what justification does Huckabee have for continuing? He will crater in Florida and be done by Super Duper Uber Tuesday.
So, we Huckabee haters and McCain loathers should all be hoping for a Mitt win in Michigan and Fred win in S.C. We can sort the rest out later….
Nessuno on January 13, 2008 at 2:03 PM
Least liked republican candidate (Results).
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Mike Huckabee is an aberration
Mcguyver on January 13, 2008 at 2:04 PM
Vote for your favorite republican candidate here (without the aberration).
Mcguyver on January 13, 2008 at 2:07 PM
If McCain or Hickabee win this nomination, I for one, will sit home in November. Harsh words, but if this country is going to go down the tubes, I’d rather see it do so under a Pres Hillary or Pres Hussein than a RINO. We can just sit back and watch things explode and quietly search for our new Reagan to save us in 2008. Tough medicine, but if that’s what it takes to get the Republican party back from these people, then so be it.
Gartrip on January 13, 2008 at 2:08 PM
Sounds plausible.
wccawa on January 13, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Reminds me of: If only LA would get nuked by AQ; people would take terrorism more seriously.
Each is equally repellent.
lorien1973 on January 13, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Why is that poll a shock? MI has economic problems and they just may be smart enough to see that Mitt can help and McCain can hurt.
jeanie on January 13, 2008 at 2:13 PM
I recall Jimmy Carter wanting Reagan to win the Republican Nomination because he thought he was extremely beatable.
CABE on January 13, 2008 at 2:14 PM
AP: Stop showing Mitt with Santa. It’s freaking January.
CABE on January 13, 2008 at 2:15 PM
Your judgement is crap. Wishing for the death of countless thousands is the moral equivalent of staying home.
Riiiight.
TexasDan on January 13, 2008 at 2:18 PM
I predicted it first! McCain won’t be the nominee. He collapsed in 2000 after it looked (according to the media) like he would win. It didn’t happen then, and, good news!, it’s Groundhog Day.
funky chicken on January 13, 2008 at 2:18 PM
I’m telling you, Mitt governed the bluest of blue states and all of the criticism laid at him so far has either been debunked or taken out of context.
1. Healthcare in MA: read what Heritage has to say about that: http://www.heritage.org/Research/HealthCare/wm1045.cfm
2. “Promise them anything” – the way I hear it he was just joking around…here’s a quote from someone who supposedly watched the webcast live:
Now which makes more sense? Why believe the MSM and not the supposed webcast watcher? Until we see him say it live, I’m giving Mitt the benefit of the doubt.
3. He flipped on abortion, that’s a good thing, duh!!! If he went back and forth, that would be different, but he didn’t “flip flop” which is the mark of a liar, he flipped, which is someone changing their mind.
YES WE ALL WANT FRED – but Fred isn’t running an effective campaign, he’s got the best message and the best record but he’s not getting his message out, so that is a preview of the problems he would have governing. He doesn’t grab an opportunity when it presents itself, which politicians HAVE to do to govern effectively.
Why would ANY conservative support McCain or the Huckster, who HAVE ALREADY BETRAYED us? Mitt has not betrayed us…he is the man for the job.
The fact that the MSM is against Mitt should resolve any and all doubt that we have that he would be great for the conservative movement.
If McCain or the Huckster get the nomination, we then get the crappy gov’t that we deserve.
JustTruth101 on January 13, 2008 at 2:19 PM
It’s the same thing. Man I wish this country would go in the crapper so everyone would learn their lesson. You -always- want what’s best for the country, even if it means losing an election. Praying for the worst case scenario is not american or patriotic on any level.
lorien1973 on January 13, 2008 at 2:20 PM
Wouldn’t it be interesting if Mitt won Michigan and Fred won SC? That would put one win for Suckabee, one for McLame, two for Romney, and one for Fred. Just saying, wouldn’t that be interesting?
The Case Against McCain
Jay on January 13, 2008 at 2:21 PM
I was worried/am worried that the Hickabee class warfare might take votes away from Romney in Michigan. It is a primarily liberal state. I’m glad to see that isn’t happening.
funky chicken on January 13, 2008 at 2:21 PM
You are right EXCEPT for the staying home part. If McCain or the Huckster get the nomination, I’m not staying home, I’m voting for the democrat. Give the people the Jimmy Carter they so pine for in order to make them realize they need a Ronald Reagan.
JustTruth101 on January 13, 2008 at 2:23 PM
Go Mitt! Anything (or anybody) who stops McCain’s (or Huckster’s) momentum is fine by me.
BTW, a serial rapist who has been terrorizing families in Chandler, AZ (a suburb of Phoenix) for the past year has finally been caught. This criminal was stalking young girls (ages 12-15), and watching their family homes. When the adults were gone and the girls were home alone, he would break in and rape the girl. Fox News (online) is now reportng that the suspect is an ILLEGAL ALIEN who was living and working in the Phoenix area, after having been TWICE DEPORTED from the U.S.
Build the double-layer border fence and build it NOW!!!
NO AMNESTY for illegal aliens — by any name!!!
AZCoyote on January 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM
Latest Dems vs McCain matchup poll.
McCain smokes Hilary by 10 points and even is beating Obama now nationally.
William Amos on January 13, 2008 at 2:26 PM
It’s obligatory
The dirty secret is it is hard to accurately poll a primary. The unpredictability of who will turn out and what the mix of voters will be makes polling a primary election like reading chicken entrails — ugly, smelly and not very enlightening. Our media culture endows polls — especially exit polls — with scientific precision they simply don’t have.
-Karl Rove
TheBigOldDog on January 13, 2008 at 2:30 PM
Years from now you’ll be telling your grandkids… “Well I voted for Clinton…the one that increased America’s dependence on social programs.” If McCain gets it, I’m staying home. If Huck gets it, I’m leaving the party. Voting Democrat is just wrong!
CABE on January 13, 2008 at 2:32 PM
No, it’s not patriotic, or smart. But to not recognize different levels of repugnace between “I hope LA gets nuked” and “I’m staying home hoping the Dems sweep” is just retarded and kills your point.
TexasDan on January 13, 2008 at 2:33 PM
Build the double-layer border fence and build it NOW!!!
NO AMNESTY for illegal aliens — by any name!!!
AZCoyote on January 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM
Kudos for that in SOCAL as well!!!
DfDeportation on January 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM
If the best that the Republican party can put up is that lying SOB McCain, then there’s no reason to BE a Republican.
If he drops face-first on the floor foaming at the mouth before the election due to his advanced age or infirmities or the high doses of psych drugs that he obviously needs to be functional (or a combination of all three), then I will probably vote for his VP, unless its Lindsay Graham.
Well, that’s my little “if..then” flowchart for this election.
TexasJew on January 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM
It’s not just “letting the dems sweep” its praying that if they do, this country goes into the shitter. I don’t really see a difference, personally. You are just splitting hairs like dailykos posters do. If the dems do sweep; you don’t go sitting back and praying for the worst (like they do) or wishing for it (like they do).
It’s just great that some on the right will so easily walk down the road given a similar situation.
lorien1973 on January 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM
Fixed it for you. That is really what you’re suggesting, isn’t it? That seems to be what many HotAir readers believe, or even desire.
Gregor on January 13, 2008 at 2:46 PM
Just ask President Gore and President Kerry what they think about national polls. Or state by state polls for that matter.
roninacreage on January 13, 2008 at 2:48 PM
McCain’s better enough than Obama to get me to the polls to vote McCain. But McCain’s not gonna be the nominee. Don’t any of you folks remember 2000? It was just like this….remember the MSM folks riding the “Straight Talk Express” and just loving on McCain, and publishing polls showing him with good numbers nationwide?
Quit worrying about McCain.
funky chicken on January 13, 2008 at 2:49 PM
Gregor on January 13, 2008 at 2:49 PM
So Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and Mark Levin are deluded then?
Gatordoug on January 13, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Its Jiiive Huckashuck that needs to hit the mat face first in the fourth (Mi., don’t forget Wy.), then both Fred and Mitt close in on Mctwo-faced and knock him to the mat and hopefully the undead will stay down this time.
Speakup on January 13, 2008 at 2:52 PM
If this isn’t serfdom – and that’s what our politicians on both sides of the isle call ‘humane’.
From a link, within the link that fred5678 provided at 1:42PM, above.
Entelechy on January 13, 2008 at 2:52 PM
2ND LOOK AT RUDY’S GENIUS PLAN!!!!
froghat on January 13, 2008 at 2:53 PM
Yup… and I think that’s exactly what’s going to happen. Mitt winning MI seems more likely to me than Fred winning SC, but I suspect that SC is going to come on strong for Fred. If they don’t, and Huckabee or McCain wins SC, then I’m afraid the battle for a conservative republican party may be lost.
MT on January 13, 2008 at 2:53 PM
The Chicago Tribune has an article about Huckster telling MI voters he is going to shake up the GOP establishment,..in other words, he is really going after the Christian vote, regardless of party affiliation. He seems quite happy to fracture off the conservatives. He must be counting on replacing them with religious Dems and independents.
a capella on January 13, 2008 at 2:54 PM
I will never vote for a Democrat for president so long as funding the military and judicial nominees are at stake. Staying home is folly, too. I shudder to think of the vindication the Move On types would feel if their tireless efforts to splinter and wear down the resolve of Conservatives actually paid off.
RushBaby on January 13, 2008 at 2:58 PM
No, actually it should read…If McCain or the Huckster get the nomination, we’ll deserve the crappy gov’t that we get.
doriangrey on January 13, 2008 at 2:59 PM
Why is that poll a “shock”? Isn’t almost everyone saying Mitt SHOULD win Michigan? I really hope Michigan does the right thing!
SouthernGent on January 13, 2008 at 3:01 PM
I wish I could vote for “none of the above”.
Where is there a conservative who can win?
Come November I will vote for any Republican with the exception of “amnesty” McCain. He won’t get a vote from our household.
woodswalking1 on January 13, 2008 at 3:05 PM
“Quit worrying about McCain.”
Yeah, sure.
I don’t see how, as long as McCain can walk from point A to point B (ie, is breathing), he will ever stop trying to destroy both the conservative movement and our beloved constitutional freedoms, like our freedom of core political speech, border security, etc. As many have observed over the past twenty years or so – there is something VERY WRONG with him; something strange that will certainly come out in a full election cycle.
Besides, like a hyperactive puppy, the MSM keeps on digging him up each time we conservatives have finally finished burying him (figuratively, of course). The MSM loves McCain and his “BS Express” , simply because 1- they know that he will destroy us, politically. And 2- that they have the goods on him to do it.
TexasJew on January 13, 2008 at 3:05 PM
The dimocrats have screwed the Michigan economy like two-dollar hooker. Since they have swallowed that class warfare garbage spewed by the left like a starving urchin, the state might have enough sense to vote for someone who can bring some life into their sinking economy. That will not be Hickabee, McCan’t or one of the same ole dimocrats who have lead them willingly into the cesspool of an economy they have now. Not really, blaming Bush is much easier than using their brains.
volsense on January 13, 2008 at 3:09 PM
Rudy Giuliani’s plan is playing out perfectly. Rudy will win Florida and go on to win the nomination. weeeeeeeee
froghat on January 13, 2008 at 3:12 PM
Well Mitt can still win, but he MUST win. Thompson is done. It is still up for grabs, but it’s mostly between Mitt, McCain, and Thompson. Wins are important now, you can’t just say that certain states don’t matter for whatever reason. If Mitt wins, he’s still viable. But then SC is important and Florida is important (sans ruDy).
It’s about who wins the primary now. 2nd place isn’t good enough for Mitt here. 2nd place puts McCain in jeopardy. If Huck wins, that probably puts him over the top in SC. If McCain wins, that probably puts him over the top in SC and the likely FL winner as well.
ThackerAgency on January 13, 2008 at 3:12 PM
It is still up for grabs, but it’s mostly between Mitt, McCain, and
ThompsonHuckabee (sorry).ThackerAgency on January 13, 2008 at 3:13 PM
God bless talk radio
GogglesPisano on January 13, 2008 at 3:14 PM
I am holding my breath hoping these polls are correct. Go Mitt Go! I do want Fred Thompson to remain viable, too.
sinsing on January 13, 2008 at 3:19 PM
It is still up for grabs, but it’s mostly between Mitt,
McCain, and ThompsonHuckabee(sorry).ThackerAgency on January 13, 2008 at 3:13 PM
Yes you are.
wccawa on January 13, 2008 at 3:31 PM
Fixed it.
Mitt/Fred/Hunter, in any combination, is the only way we will not grant the REWARD of instant residency and possible citizenship to 20 million law-breakers. This would be the single worst transformational mistake of this century, since we would then have the NEXT 30 million filling that shanty town in San Diego, while the 20 million “legalized” law-breakers would be making higher, legal, wages. And on and on …
Lots of EVIDENCE that enforcement only is working at the state level in AZ (McCain’s state!), OK, TN, and GA – only 46 more to go. And this is a WINNING ISSUE nationally according to Zogby. if only Fred and Mitt would corectly frame the discussion in terms of REWARDS, not amnesty.
Lots of good links here.
fred5678 on January 13, 2008 at 3:32 PM
Fredheads need to wake up. He isn’t going to be the nominee; he’s running for VP. Rudy/Fred would be a perfectly acceptable ticket.
lorien1973 on January 13, 2008 at 2:03 PM
Not likly, too many difs guns esp
jerrytbg on January 13, 2008 at 3:33 PM
None of these guys is a true conservative, but Mitt and Fred’s records give one less to worry about.
tlclark on January 13, 2008 at 3:34 PM
I blame McCain
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,322416,00.html
Defeat McShamnesty, the evil Democrat wannabe.
Igor R. on January 13, 2008 at 3:34 PM
It is still up for grabs, but it’s mostly between Mitt, and Thompson.
wccawa on January 13, 2008 at 3:31 PM
thankyou
jerrytbg on January 13, 2008 at 3:38 PM
You don’t call the fact that conservatives are purposely electing liberals to represent their Party an indication that the Move On types have been “successful in their tireless efforts to splinter and wear down the resolve of Conservatives?”
Gregor on January 13, 2008 at 3:43 PM
IF Fred is in fact “done,” it’s only because brain dead conservative voters are assuming this and casting votes for liberal candidates. It’s really quite amazing. If all these voters who say Fred is done (while at the same time claiming he’s the best candidate) would actually vote for Fred … he’d win by a landslide.
Morons! Proof positive that it’s not just the liberals who spent too many hours injesting brain altering chemicals.
Gregor on January 13, 2008 at 3:48 PM
And it’s been going on for some time.
Insanity, keep doing the same thing, expecting different, etc.
Shay on January 13, 2008 at 3:49 PM
I would love to see that news video played at the next debate and ask each candidate how their “immigration plan” would prevent that from happening again and again. Maybe they would suggest we need more brothels (to relieve the tension) in the illegal alien camps, as the Sheriff in San Diego refuses to admit.
fred5678 on January 13, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Anybody who supports a candidate other then Fred in this election is a moron. It’s that simple. The differences are not subtle.
Igor R. on January 13, 2008 at 3:55 PM
Well Huckabee may suggest that educating the children of the illegals at public expense may make them feel better about themselves, and hey, maybe their parents won’t rape as much.
Igor R. on January 13, 2008 at 3:58 PM
Blaming the voters is like blaming the messenger, and just could be called, “moronic”.
Up until the SC debate when he finally came out of his stupor, Fred did nothing to earn the votes of conservatives. That is not the fault of voters, but of his lackluster campaign. We shall see how he fares and campaigns from this point on.
Buy Danish on January 13, 2008 at 4:00 PM
Gregor on January 13, 2008 at 3:48 PM
Shay on January 13, 2008 at 3:49 PM
With the existence of this nation LITERALLY at stake!
jerrytbg on January 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM
We’re doomed.
I’m not all together certain that it makes much of a difference any more. They are all the same – republicans and democrats – with the exception of Fred.
pullingmyhairout on January 13, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Finally!! No surprise on his illegal status, is there? What is it that makes children so attractive to these pieces of crap?
Does anyone know what company employed this SOB?
Shay on January 13, 2008 at 4:04 PM
I thought we all learned the vast majority of polls are complete BS and stopped paying attention to them after both Iowa and New Hampshire!
Isn’t it obvious that pollsters have agenda’s and considering that nowadays polls influence policies pollsters have all the more reason to cheat and lie and have way too much power with no regulation whatsoever.
HaraldHardrada on January 13, 2008 at 4:08 PM
You’re right, the differences aren’t subtle.
malan89 on January 13, 2008 at 4:10 PM
This SOB could’ve bee a potential Huckabee clemency candidate:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22634938/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22634940/
Shay on January 13, 2008 at 4:10 PM
That’s one of the most idiotic statements I’ve ever heard and it actually supports my claim that we have way too many morons running around.
Maybe you’re not aware of how an election works. You see, the voters actually decide who wins or loses. Pretty simple concept.
Unless you believe it’s all fixed of course, which I’m not going to say that isn’t a possibility.
Gregor on January 13, 2008 at 4:11 PM
To:
It’s the same poll. I just copied the java script you had onto my blog.
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With Mike Huckabee being the aberration that he is……..
……I have left him out of this poll so that we can truly vote for our favorite republican candidate.
Mcguyver on January 13, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Nothing? You mean like being the only conservative candidate running for the GOP nomination?
I guess you believe the other candidates constant lying, manipulating reality, and flipping off conservative voters is “earning conservative votes.”
Good for you.
Gregor on January 13, 2008 at 4:15 PM
Thanks for that. I thought that the Fredster had expressed sincere regret for McCain-Feingold, but I see I was wrong, and I was a moron to believe that.
Buy Danish on January 13, 2008 at 4:18 PM
The only angst I have of a Fred presidency is the fear that the Fredheads will be no-stop, 24/7, reminding us of how wonderful he is, even if he does things that they are not in agreement with…..
…and, like a zombie, gloss over every foible come what may, while the rest of us are just trying to have a good day.
And, before you smarty pants beat me to it:
So with that out of the way, we can (hopefully) proceed to have a debate.
First off, one should never wear politics closer than length of your arm.
By keeping politics an arms length away, one can remain objective and therefore criticize our consensually elected peers/human beings as needed.
So with that said, why don’t we start?
Oh that’s right… we have already maxed out the bandwidth available for that discussion.
So let’s start by eliminating the weakest candidate by virtue of who is the least liked candidate..
So with Mike Huckabee out of the way, let’s vote for our favorite republican candidate, shall we?
Mcguyver on January 13, 2008 at 4:22 PM
gregor, don’t bother. that there’s a mittbot echo chamber
funky chicken on January 13, 2008 at 4:23 PM
Bah, isn’t Romney personally against abortion, but doesn’t want to impose his beliefs on the rest of America? It’s easy to distort that nuanced stance by taking him out of context… Ain’t it?
Seixon on January 13, 2008 at 4:23 PM
Anyone who thinks the Democrat/Socialist candidate is going to win a general election in the U.S. by double digits is a lunatic.
Jaibones on January 13, 2008 at 4:24 PM
Fred did nothing to earn the votes of conservatives.
Buy Danish on January 13, 2008 at 4:00 PM
WHAT????????????
Nothing? You mean like being the only conservative candidate running for the GOP nomination?
I guess you believe the other candidates constant lying, manipulating reality, and flipping off conservative voters is “earning conservative votes.”
Good for you.
Gregor on January 13, 2008 at 4:15 PM
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
jerrytbg on January 13, 2008 at 4:24 PM
No, you were quite right. He has indeed expressed regret over aspects of the bill, most recently at the last debate.
I believe that vote came from his sincere desire to battle government waste. During his time in the Senate, he forced the first vote on term limits in decades and battled government waste and fraud.
McCain-Feingold was certainly a barrier to my support for Fred, but he won me over in spite of it. Reading Government at the Brink (PDF file) certainly helped me understand the reasoning behind his vote, if not agree.
joewm315 on January 13, 2008 at 4:25 PM
What to call ‘em?
IF:
Thompson supporters are called Fredheads
and
Paul supporters are called Paulnuts or Paulbots
and
Huckabee supporters are called Huckleberries
THEN
What are Romney supporters called?
Romnoids? Mittens?
I can’t even think of anything to call Giuliani or McCain supporters.
Shirotayama on January 13, 2008 at 4:27 PM
McCainiancs… Giuliani’s a tough one though. Giuliandroids?
joewm315 on January 13, 2008 at 4:28 PM
McCainiacs. Hilarious. Shoulda thought of that one meself.
Yeah, Giuliani’s name makes it tough to come up with a good name for his supporters.
Shirotayama on January 13, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Good idea!!! Maybe a hefty lawsuit against the employer (and the landlord!) on the grounds of illegally harboring a previous deportee (a FELONY, by the way) will get employers to pay attention to the law. Note Arizona’s new law at work.
fred5678 on January 13, 2008 at 4:39 PM
Labels are counterproductive, don’t you think?
Discussing, in more detail, who they really are and what they can and will do to save this country should be the topic. Make no mistake they are reading all this.
Just a thought.
jerrytbg on January 13, 2008 at 4:43 PM
Maybe you don’t get how elections work. The candidate has to convince the voter to vote for him. Pretty simple concept.
You are manipulating reality by implying that Fred’s mere presence in this campaign is enough to crown him with the title.
By the way, I will put my conservative creds up against yours any day of the week.
Buy Danish on January 13, 2008 at 4:49 PM
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Here!, here!!
Put down the pipe & open the Good Ear.
Fred Thompson is a threat to the MSM doctrines for Who gets to make the news, & to the Candidates Code of TV behavior.
He must be kept invisible by a Media in its death throws. & the only candidates we are allowed to support w/ great vigor must have the stamp of approval from TV Headquarters.
Listen to Fred’s responses & watch his delivery. There is something to be said for Slow & Steady. It is an art form virtually forgotten in the U.S.
‘If you want the tiger cubs, you have to go into the tiger’s den!’
or this:
‘You will obey me as I lead you
& eat the garbage that I feed you
until the day that we don’t need you
don’t go for help, no one will head you!
your mind is totally controlled
it has been stuffed into my mold
& you will do as you are told
until the rights to you are sold!!
THAT’S RIGHT FOLKS!!
DON’T TOUCH THAT DIAL!’ Frank Z / the Slime
lobosan5 on January 13, 2008 at 4:52 PM
This from the poll where Mitt leads McCain by 8 pts.
Which…. explains why McCain won in NH (as Rush Limbaugh explained) because out of Staters are able to come over and say,”Yea we’re thinking about moving here” and go right ahead and vote in the NH primary.
Like Rush said, “Can you say screwed?”
The first two States can now see how brilliant their status really is.
As I explain here on Mike Huckabee’s aberration status……
SECOND LOOK AT THE IOWA CAUCUS!
GO HAWKEYES!
Mcguyver on January 13, 2008 at 4:54 PM
Speaking of Arizona and illegal immigration, note that Sheriff Joe Arpaio endorsed Mitt Romney.
Buy Danish on January 13, 2008 at 4:54 PM
Yeah, it’s definetely time to close off all of our primaries. Why on earth would we want Democrats and independents picking our nominee?
joewm315 on January 13, 2008 at 4:56 PM
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