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posted at 10:10 pm on January 13, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Dittos.
CABE on January 13, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Awesome QOTD!
I certainly hope SC has more sense than Iowa and New Hampshire.
Fred!
SimplyKimberly on January 13, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Okay. But I will just point out Fred went after Rudy (of all people - a non treat!) on the subject of amnesty! So if Fred did believe your theory of one at a time, he himself broke it. Not only did he break it, he put the amnesty onus on Rudy! That’s McCain’s baggage and Fred shifted it on Rudy. That is politics. So the question is what’s up with that?
Spirit of 1776 on January 13, 2008 at 11:20 PM
What does that mean?
amkun on January 13, 2008 at 11:20 PM
treat should be threat, of course
Spirit of 1776 on January 13, 2008 at 11:20 PM
From here:
John McCain leads with 28% of the votes;
Mike Huckabee with 21%;
Mitt Romney with 17%;
Fred Thompson with 14%;
Rudy Giuliani with only 5%;
and Ron Paul with 5%.
If Fred takes 4% from Huck, he comes in 2nd, then goes after McCain next primary date??
fred5678 on January 13, 2008 at 11:20 PM
amkun - It means that Fred undermined the 1st amendment. That’s his signature legislative moment. It holds some people back.
Spirit of 1776 on January 13, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Oh, and I thought the real QOTD was the “and of course he smiled and giggled and told a couple of jokes” part. Tell me about it.
amkun on January 13, 2008 at 11:21 PM
I’ll hoist a cold one to that!
This is the kind of crap that makes me sick of McCain, Bush, and fellow travelers. Why not a little LAW ENFORCEMENT for a change?
fred5678 on January 13, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Oh yeah, that. I agree, it’s a big turn off. But, I’m willing to take him at his word that he regrets his vote and didn’t intend for it to turn out like it has.
Looking back at the time, CFR was probably a prudent step. The only problem was McCain had a hand in it.
amkun on January 13, 2008 at 11:25 PM
What kind of garbage talk is that? You seem to have made quite a leap there.
2004 was nothing like a 2008 election pitting a traditional conservative values guy(which Bush ain’t) against a flaming liberal in the general. If the nation rejects that, it seems pretty significant for future selection of candidates. Has nothing to do with being afraid of elections, and regrouping might be a little tough if the majority of voters reject Fred’s positions.
a capella on January 13, 2008 at 11:25 PM
In case you missed it, Stop the ACLU has the entire interview up:
http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/01/13/fred-thompson-on-late-edition-with-wolf-blitzer/
Fred is taking no prisoners. And if he decides to take them, I know they will stay in Gitmo.
www.fred08.com
redneck hippie on January 13, 2008 at 11:25 PM
If Fred takes 4% from Huck, he comes in 2nd, then goes after McCain next primary date??
fred5678 on January 13, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Yes but if he also stills votes from McCain by being the conservative choice in a conservative state. Then he gets to to 24-25% figure Mitt gets a bounce if he wins MI. and you are looking at a tight three/four man race with no clear winner. advantage Fred from coming from Behind.
unseen on January 13, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Four votes for McCain:
Vicente Fox
Juan McCain’s mom
Lindsey Graham
Juan McCain voting for himself
MB4 on January 13, 2008 at 11:26 PM
I think Rush’s listeners already know his favorite candidate.
Here’s a hint it aint Mitt, Huck, Rudy, McCain, or Paul.
TheSitRep on January 13, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Are Huck’s supporters less attached to their candidate then McCain (especially in SC!)?
4% is 23.53% of Huck’s supporters.
4% is 14.29% of McCain’s supporters.
Spirit of 1776 on January 13, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Man, that was some pretty smokin’ stuff. I think Huck may have misjudged a few things here. Heh.
wccawa on January 13, 2008 at 11:32 PM
a capella on January 13, 2008 at 11:25 PM
so in fear of losing we put up some quasi liberal that can not out liberal a liberal, nor can he excite the base. Yeah then the REP will go down in spectacular defeat, the party will lurch to the left, the Reagan movement will be utterly defeated and the REP will not when another election for 50 years.
Hmm. yeah let’s play it safe. the country, the media not withstanding is decidingly conservative. when a real conservative is running we have never been defeated. when the Rino GHWB was running we lost, When the semi RINO dole was running we lost, when Ford was running we lost. when IKE and reagan and yes GWB who ran has a conservative regardless of how he governed. We won. simple calculations. the American people do not believe in hand outs, in far left socialistic programs, in communism lite.
And if we put Fred up and we lose. so be it at least then we fought the fight and the nation can heal somewhat.
If it’s liberal lite vs liberal heavy, the majority of the country will continue to vbe split down the middle.
unseen on January 13, 2008 at 11:33 PM
I put this in the other thread to respond to a comment. This is from Human Events, which just endorsed him.
I asked Thompson whether he was proud of his role in enacting the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform legislation in ‘01.
“Yes,” replied the former Tennessee senator without hesitation. […]
More recently, Thompson, defended McCain-Feingold passionately in interviews with syndicated columnist George Will and radio talk show host Laura Ingrahm.
And this is the link to the amicus that he filed at the Supreme Court to defend it.
We do not agree.
Spirit of 1776 on January 13, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Keep on servin up the fRed Meat here AP! I don’t think there’s enough to go around.
Free Constitution on January 13, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Anyone think that eithre Fred wants McCain as his VP or failing that wants to be McCain’s VP ?
William Amos on January 13, 2008 at 11:34 PM
No, the real question is whether or not we’re going to let “independents” and the “media” choose our candidate because we’re scared of them.
Let’s stop finding reason not to support the best man for the job.
Fredmentum.
Dorvillian on January 13, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Don’t panic. I think those numbers are a little inflated. The correct number of votes for John McCain should be a little less. Just a little…you know…around zero.
CABE on January 13, 2008 at 11:35 PM
I will vote for a slightly tainted Fred rather than a pro abortionist such as Rudy.
The Huck will not stand the test of time.
Neither will Romney.
Go Fred.
And I have Donated.
rockdalian on January 13, 2008 at 11:35 PM
No idea. But it’s the easiest math to leapfrog to 2nd, independent of final total votes and %. Maybe 2 or 3 % from each?? And with Romney inactive in SC, maybe a point or two from Mitt. The concentrated bus tour seemed to work in Iowa - voters are human - they want ATTENTION! If the NYT is writing about a Rep. success, maybe it might be even more than they see.
If Thompson can squeeze through to 2nd, and Romney wins MI, we then have a horserace. This is getting to be fun!
fred5678 on January 13, 2008 at 11:35 PM
TheSitRep on January 13, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Yes but what happens if Rush puts his full weight behind Fred. If Hannity seeing Rudy go down in flames also comes out for Fred, if Levin does also. Fred it appears has the best chance of getting talk radio’s nod.
unseen on January 13, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Well, I am TheSitRep and I approve of those messages!
Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate!
TheSitRep on January 13, 2008 at 11:37 PM
I am Fredicus!
TheSitRep on January 13, 2008 at 11:39 PM
BTW Barak is not in the Michigan Primary and it is a crossover vote primary. Look for Independants to go big for McCain and upset Romney
William Amos on January 13, 2008 at 11:40 PM
“TheSitRep is annoying©”
CABE on January 13, 2008 at 11:41 PM
Gentlemen, ladies… I have to be working by 0600, so I will leave you to your bliss. But I DO suggest you look at the full clip of that interview, not just the HA snip. It is very much worth your while.
wccawa on January 13, 2008 at 11:41 PM
By the way, Fred’s fundraiser is approaching the one million mark.
Jay on January 13, 2008 at 11:41 PM
William Amos on January 13, 2008 at 11:40 PM
for some reason the left thinks McCain is the biggest threat. They are already planning to vote for Mitt to shut down McCain. MCCain stand on jobs never coming back will not win him votes in union MI. they believe jobs are for life there.
unseen on January 13, 2008 at 11:42 PM
This one on one interview with Wolf is a great example of how any Republican should handle the media,as I’ve said before Fred knows the media,he answer’s your questions
without all the dapdanceing,and halfway through Wolf tries
to over talk Fred,good to see Thompson didn’t give up his
ground.,and every interview I’ve seen you may as well put
Fred and Ronald Reagan’s video’s side by side,both would
be the same.
canopfor on January 13, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Why go after Rudy? Rudy’s leading in Florida still. Mitt’s gonna beat McCain in MI. It’s 2000 all over again. McCain isn’t going to win the nomination. Fred will need McCain as an ally in the Senate once/if he becomes POTUS. None of the other big names is in congress.
And Fred did go into detail on disagreements with McCain on the Mark Levin radio show.
funky chicken on January 13, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Did he dodge the McCain questions again?
Fred is so obviously a stalking horse for McCain that it has become embarrassing to watch. The better Fred does, the more McCain will benefit.
Buddahpundit on January 13, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Ya know, how many of the CFR critics have bemoaned at one time or another the influence that George Soros can buy? Yeah, CFR via McCain/Feingold didn’t work. Perhaps it’s an idea that can’t work. But if you say you could never vote for Fred Thompson because of his CFR vote, and then ever bitch about Soros buying influence over our politicians, you are a wee bit confused.
funky chicken on January 13, 2008 at 11:47 PM
It looks like Fred has HA mob appeal. AP must have gone to sleep early, or is sipping beer, while smirking at the majority of his subjects…
Entelechy on January 13, 2008 at 11:48 PM
No he didn’t. His handlers cut off the interview because Fred was being pushed by Levin to critcize the guy he is in the race to help.
Buddahpundit on January 13, 2008 at 11:50 PM
“The SitRep is annoying”
CABE on January 13,2008 at 11:42PM.
CABE: Not having SitRep,Iam Fredicus/FredeLanche,
on a daily basis is like a day without sunshine!
HeHe.
canopfor on January 13, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Well, I had better turn in. I have annoyed CABE.
Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate!
TheSitRep on January 13, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Buddahpundit, that’s factually false.
funky chicken on January 13, 2008 at 11:51 PM
There is only one candidate polling lower than Fred Thompson nationally, that is Ron Paul. Both have about the same chance to win the nomination.
I think Fred realizes this, and that is why he is playing spoiler and going after Huckaliar instead of McAmnesty. He wants Huckaliar off the field so his buddy McAmnesty has a clear shot to the nomination.
paulsur on January 13, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Romney should win Michigan, Fred! hopefully takes South Carolina, which means McCain is done.
funky chicken on January 13, 2008 at 11:53 PM
100% behind FRED.
Spread the word loud and quickly.
Metro on January 13, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Well that’s disappointing and I guess I was misinformed. He should be made to answer in an actual debate for his conduct during the time.
However, you can’t deny that CFR was necessary with the Clinton’s and their illegal fundraising (which of course continues today, a testament to the effectiveness of McCain-Feingold). What’s funny is that the people who most supported it are probably the ones most suffering from it. Especially Fred, considering his support seems to be mostly consist of grassroots efforts.
Well, who listens to Mark Levin, really? He needs to do it on national tv, with an actual audience.
amkun on January 13, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Jokes about Metamucil aren’t helping him, and he didn’t get New Hampshire, and he’s not getting Michigan. In the meantime, Fred’s initial outing of Huck’s true positions are already beginning to make his numbers slide while Fred’s are increasing. It will have its own momentum, until it’s eliminated the bulk of his supporters that aren’t voting for him based either on his faith or his demeanor.
MadisonConservative on January 14, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Fred’s doing really well when the aberration candidate is not in the poll.
Mcguyver on January 14, 2008 at 12:05 AM
Metamucil has just endorsed Mike Huckabee.
lol jk.
I wanted to do a Rick Roll.
CABE on January 14, 2008 at 12:07 AM
Nor do I, I admit. However, he’s better on amendment two than any other candidate. Iffy on the first is discomforting. Iffy on the second is nerve-wracking.
MadisonConservative on January 14, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Yes. As I’ve said before though, history should have taught us to not give up the Rhineland trusting on the Maginot.
And we need the first to keep/reinforce the second, just as we need the second to keep/reinforce the first. This a direct consequence of CFR (link here):
Item—In June, the FEC ruled that the Bill of Rights Educational Foundation, an Arizona nonprofit corporation headed by a conservative activist named David Hardy, could not advertise Hardy’s pro-gun documentary (The Rights of the People) on television and radio during the pre-election season. The FEC noted that the film featured federal candidates and thus qualified as “electioneering communication.” Hardy, according to news accounts (I could not reach him by phone or e-mail), yanked the film until after the election.
Spirit of 1776 on January 14, 2008 at 12:16 AM
William Amos, no. I think Fred wants to maintain his long cordial relationship with McCain, and would definitely want him on his side in the Senate. McCain has lots of seniority. A much better choice for VP would be Romney, if Romney would take it. It makes a lot of sense for Mitt too, because the biggest thing dogging him right now is the perception that his rhetoric today doesn’t match his deeds and rhetoric of the past. The Mormon thing bothers a fair number of people now (and I DON”T agree with it, but I will acknowledge it). Being a visible, successful, conservative VP for 4 years (if things are going well and he trusts Mitt, I could see Fred being happy with a single term) or 8 years would set Romney up for 8 years in the big chair.
All these people begging for Thompson to verbally eviscerate his old friend McCain seem like they might be happier with the politics of the democrat party. If so, it’s right over there, out that door to the left.
funky chicken on January 14, 2008 at 12:18 AM
I don’t want him to eviscerate McCain. I’d like to leave that to AZ in his next senate campaign. Let me state it plainly. Fred is appealing because of his rhetoric, more than his history. His history is remarkably similar to McCain obviously. I don’t want to see McCain-lite after the election. Therefore, I would like to see him draw the distinctions between his rhetoric and his history by juxtapositioning himself against McCain on the critical issues.
Spirit of 1776 on January 14, 2008 at 12:23 AM
No, it’s factually true. You are calling me a liar with the hope that those who didn’t actually listen to the interview will believe you. I listened to the interview on the radio and if the interview is posted somewhere on the internet, everyone can listen to it and see for themselves that I’m telling the truth and you are lying.
Buddahpundit on January 14, 2008 at 12:24 AM
BP is this the interview to which you are referring? (Part One, Part Two)
Spirit of 1776 on January 14, 2008 at 12:30 AM
This is the Fred that I remember from his days in the Senate. He was one of the few that I trusted and admired even though he’s from Tennessee and I’m from Washington State.
I think that when Fred first jumped into the race he was simply out of practice and needed some time to get warmed up. Politics is nothing like riding a bicycle, it requires constant effort, but even now that Fred’s back in the game he’s only going to get stronger, given the opportunity.
Let’s hope that the people of South Carolina don’t fall for the media spin that it’s too late for Fred. They’d like it to be, but it’s not too late by any measure whatsoever other than in the petty little minds of the mainstream media and those who would allow them to pick their candidates for them.
I say, screw the MSM! Vote for Fred!
FloatingRock on January 14, 2008 at 12:41 AM
Hey Allah, haven’t you learned anything yet?
All Fred! treads should START in the Top Picks Column.
Go Fred!
omnipotent on January 14, 2008 at 12:46 AM
It appears that a lot of folks are forgetting about McCain’s hand in shamnesty. I believe that he will never be the nominee and if he is, HE.WILL.LOSE. The hatred for that shameless attempt to slip that past us in the dead of night and then call us all xenophobic when we resist our masters will be McCains undoing. Just because the folks in NH forgot, doesn’t mean the rest of the country has forgotten.
Right now, IMO, Huck is the legitimate threat because of his populist message. It works across party lines and the dems will be happy with him or any dem as the POTUS.
So Fred is attacking the right person and he has no concern for any VP consideration.
I wonder if Fred is only being the spoiler now? I know that is as whacky as the Fredheads outrageous imaginary scenarios, but I think he is a conservative and if the Fredheads are right about him, he could take on that role just to eliminate a serious threat to the conservative cause in America because he is a patriot. But then again, maybe not.
csdeven on January 14, 2008 at 12:46 AM
That makes two of us. And yes, I remember those days.
wccawa on January 14, 2008 at 12:46 AM
Err……threads……D’Oh!
omnipotent on January 14, 2008 at 12:47 AM
Hi henzou.
Is this your name: 変造?
Or is it just a coincidence?
If this is your name, then you should be able to recognize mine (屁理屈).
Herikutsu on January 14, 2008 at 12:54 AM
The most shameful and cynical aspect was that he and his buddies changed the 90 day waiting period of the Z visa from 2006 to a generous 24 hour period in the 2007 version, allowing DHS plenty of time to process 12 to 20 million applications, and if DHS didn’t protest within 24 hours, they got IMMEDIATE PERMANENT residency.
McCain should be forced to stay in this camp for a week and see the fruits of his labors.
fred5678 on January 14, 2008 at 1:03 AM
Funky Chicken is correct.
http://www.blogsforfredthompson.com/fred-thompson-mark-levins-show-audio-01-11-08
LodeStar on January 14, 2008 at 1:04 AM
FIRST LOOK AT FRED REDEMPTION by csdeven :)
Entelechy on January 14, 2008 at 1:08 AM
We need Fred!
Lady Jane on January 14, 2008 at 1:23 AM
I don’t know if you’re a liar, I don’t know you and wouldn’t want to accuse you of that. However, you are misrepresenting what happened and are interpreting it to fit your argument. If you want to be technical, Fred was talking about Huck last before he had to go. Before that, he went down a shortlist of the platforms that he thinks McCain simply is wrong on: immigration and taxes.
Mark Levin Show 1-11-2008
about 12:15 into the show, Fred speaks about sitting next to him in the senate then says McCain is wrong on some issues, “no doubt about that.”
Around 13:30 into: Mark mentions the pass in the media that McCain is getting about his statement that he was for the Bush tax cuts and Fred agreed “No question about it.”
Around 13:40 into: Fred then monologues about McCain’s senate record that has been out for years and well documented and says McCain is wrong about taxes and wrong about immigration.
Around 14:00 into: He ends by explaining why the dig on Huck is different than a dig on McCain at the time (of the debate) because Huck is denying his record, while McCain stands by his.
I do think the explanation is weak as McCain essentially lied about his record when he said he was for the tax cuts.
There you have it. He does talk about McCain, just not in the same tone as he attacked Huck. Thus you are not a liar, just misrepresenting what happened.
geckomon on January 14, 2008 at 1:26 AM
But then again, maybe not???? That’s your retort? Please say it isn’t so, csdeven is losing his edge!
/nostalgic for the csdeven vs fredhead slug fests. . .almost
geckomon on January 14, 2008 at 1:33 AM
STOP BASHING FRED ALLA- oh, I see.
Damn.
Reaps on January 14, 2008 at 1:39 AM
Reasonable enough, but he’s fighting Huckster for the conservative vote, where McCain gets the “moderate” vote. Huck is an easy target, and a lot of voters mistakenly feel he’s a conservative and support him for that reason.
Fred isn’t going to out-moderate McCain, but he can out-conservative Huck. Those concerned about illegal immigration almost certainly are aware of McCain’s role in McCain-Kennedy; they might not be so aware of Hucksters La Raza lovin’.
Hollowpoint on January 14, 2008 at 1:40 AM
From National Review’s The Corner yesterday. An email to Kathryn Jean Lopez.
A New Hampshire resident makes the case:
I have a crazy idea I’d like to float by you.
The two candidates most acceptable to conservatives, Thompson and Romney, are in not so good shape. The three least acceptable, Huckabee, McCain, and Giuliani, are in relatively good shape. It’s entirely possible that the two conservatives will be knocked out early and the eventual nominee will be unacceptable to a large segment of the base.
Fred has chances to win SC; Mitt has chances to win MI. I want both to win and I think there is a way to make it happen. Two months ago, in a WSJ interview, Mitt opined that the federal government should have a Chief Operating Officer. He himself would be the perfect choice. He “loves data” - he loves working with details. My crazy idea is that Thompson and Romney join forces now. Thompson would be the President and CEO, Romney would be the COO. Each would
play to his strengths. Fred would work on broad principles and policies (many have commented that he has the most complete set of positions on taxes, entitlements, etc.); Mitt would actually run the government on a day-to-day basis. He would tear into the Washington bureaucracy, reorganize it, and fix it - exactly what he wants to do and has done so well before. I think this ticket might very well sweep the primaries. They could even invite McCain to join them as SecDef. And maybe Giuliani could be Sec of Homeland Security. If they announced this “merger” they could avoid months of potentially acrimonious campaigning with tens of millions of dollars of expenses. They could get a head start on campaigning against the Democrats instead of against other Republicans. If the team declared they would stop earmarks and other wasteful spending they might put some spine into Congressional Republicans and thus develop a campaign issue for them. I believe that this ticket is the best possible ticket for Republicans and could be the best ever administration in terms of restructuring and downsizing Washington.
Clinton Happens on January 14, 2008 at 1:41 AM
The inevitability of Fred’s dropping out of the race gives me pause to consider the feelings of the Fredheads. Why shouldn’t I allow them their delusions? It would be cruel to make them suffer for the extra few weeks. I say let them have hope. It’s the decent thing to do. ;-)
/s
csdeven on January 14, 2008 at 1:41 AM
He went through a bruising campaign in Iowa, which I’m sure was no fun. He’s doing the same in South Carolina. He’s doing the debates and the interviews.
The better question is, why do you question his seriousness? I think too many people are swayed by media coverage, or arguments made by those who are already committed to a different candidate. Bear in mind, there are 6 other candidates in the race, and a lot of people working for them. Have you noticed that every time Fred does something that should settle the current question, people come up with new ones?
First, he had no “fire in the belly.” He “didn’t really want it.”
He proved that wrong in Iowa.
Then he was attacked and mocked for not even trying in New Hampshire.
Once it became clear that he had already moved on to South Carolina, and was “all in” there, he was accused of being uninspiring in debate, and being a lousy campaigner.
He showed how good he could be in the last debate, easily making the front-runner in Iowa look … lame.
Now he’s accused of really being a fake candidate, sort of a stalking horse for McCain, or else he’s just “too late.”
Looking at what he says, and what he does, he’s dead serious. You just have to decide how much weight to give these rumors and innuendos.
Granted, at some point you may have to bite your tongue and pick the candidate that can win, which may not be the one you originally wanted. But it’s still very early in this process. Don’t throw your guy overboard too soon. Because when everybody “settles” for the candidate “that can win,” you wind up running a John Kerry like the Democrats did, someone nobody really wanted, but looked like the best shot for the election. Except in the general election, nobody else wanted him either.
theregoestheneighborhood on January 14, 2008 at 1:42 AM
FREDELICIOUS
Metro on January 14, 2008 at 1:44 AM
I would MUCH rather have Hunter (combat veteran and father of a combat veteran) as SecDef, not tired ol’ McShamnesty, who doesn’t undertand that securing our borders is part of securing our nation, and ANYBODY but Guliani to run DHS/ICE. He is much too soft on 20 million law-breakers.
I like your CEO/COO nominations, though.
fred5678 on January 14, 2008 at 1:58 AM
See, you can do it. I knew you had it in you!
Just had to dig on you, you seemed to be exhibiting a slight conversion this weekend. Albeit with reservation.
geckomon on January 14, 2008 at 2:02 AM
I should probably elaborate on the “stalking horse” theory about Fred. It just makes no sense for him to do that much work — multiple appearances a day for weeks on end — just to help someone else win. Not saying it’s impossible, but it’s an extremely weak idea.
Frankly, as long as there are other, more plausible reasons for not criticizing McCain more, then the “stalking horse” theory is doubtful. Maybe Fred just figures that a President Thompson doesn’t need to antagonize Senator McCain. Fred has stated disagreement with McCain on some issues, but may just see Huckabee as the bigger threat.
Which he is. Huckabee gives the impression of being conservative, until you start examining his actual policies. Huckabee is where Fred can very possibly siphon off some votes.
I’ll agree that Fred needs to say explicitly what is wrong with a McCain candidacy. But he doesn’t want to start attacking every other candidate at once. If Fred starts attacking every other candidate at once, people will just decide the problem is with Fred, not everyone else.
theregoestheneighborhood on January 14, 2008 at 2:04 AM
I think it’s an enemy of my enemy is my friend kinda thing. It’s all good, either way. Whenever csdeven really hurt my feelings, I’d just run crying over to the Fred08 message boards and let them comfort me with their relentless optimism.
joewm315 on January 14, 2008 at 2:25 AM
Well this is just great. Expect the mass media, the Left and Mike Huckabee to play up this story this week. Especially Mike Huckabee, since the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs pretty much echos Mike Huckabee’s statements in the last debate. UGH
Apparently the people in the military still don’t realize that we cannot fight this war in a PC manner. There are many things that make America look bad in the eyes of the rest of the world. Just fighting the war in itself makes us look bad. Does the Joint Chiefs Chairman suggest we give up so as not to look bad? UGH
Michael in MI on January 14, 2008 at 2:45 AM
Fred as POTUS John Bolton as VP or S O S….the ideal dream team :)
mike46nzl on January 14, 2008 at 2:48 AM
Courtesy Michael in MI on January 14, 2008 at 2:45 AM
Just that opening paragraph makes my head explode (damn jihads!). I don’t get why the facts of how they are being treated get ignored over the fantasy of what is happening and being reported. The Admiral seems unfit to preside if he seems to be more interested in being Miss Congeniality of world politics.
The “what will the world think of us” whine is so unbecoming. Why are we producing such wimps these day?
geckomon on January 14, 2008 at 2:55 AM
I have seen your OPINION twice now…proof?
RedLizard64 on January 14, 2008 at 2:56 AM
Exactly, get rid of the viable liberal candidate in the group…Huckabee, then worry about whether or not you might want to make Romney the number two guy. Let me ask everyone this…First of all what is NEw Hampshire int he big scheme of things (No offense to people from there)? McCain was on the verge of dropping out…he still has no real infrastructure…so is it possible that HE is being propt up by the sensationalist MSM Love fest just like Huckabee..because the MSM’s first choice is Huckabee, but now that his real record is coming out their next best choice is McCain?
RedLizard64 on January 14, 2008 at 3:01 AM
See:
I think I refuted him.
geckomon on January 14, 2008 at 3:11 AM
I saw a picture and that guy looks like a grade-A scumbag in uniform. Note the contrast to the sharp soldier in front of him.
Peter Pace was railroaded for this Gomer Pyle?
He rose to prominence in a time when there were no wars to be fought. He should retire.
joewm315 on January 14, 2008 at 3:14 AM
Perfect Analysis TGTN!!! In the Military I had a few occasions to put out the offer to a group of people that wanted me hung up to dry…the challenge “One at a time or all together” The only time I got my but kicked for such a stupid statement was when they chose “ALL TOGETHER”!!!!
RedLizard64 on January 14, 2008 at 3:23 AM
I have to go to work in 5 hours night all we’ll banter again on the morrow.
Little Known Facts About Fred Thompson (LKFAFT):
When Fred Thompson leaves his house, he doesn’t lock his door…criminals lock theirs!
When God create the first man and woman, He told them, “Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it, for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die forit belongeth to Fred Thompson and he does not like people touching that which pertaineth to him!
When they are in season, fred Thompson enjoys, hunting, killing, skinning, and preparing fresh Balrog.
RedLizard64 on January 14, 2008 at 3:34 AM
I understand your concern, however Fred has addressed this issue. From the article you linked to earlier:
It appears he regrets the part of the bill that kept them from running the ads. Whether you believe he truly regrets it is up to you and would work to change it is up to you. I’m not going to try and change your mind as I have similar problems with believing other candidates.
Gianni on January 14, 2008 at 4:02 AM
Fred is matching the political culture in SC with his attacks on Huckabee. They love rough & tumble politics, and negative campaigning does work there.
If Fred can start Huckabee on a long downward spiral starting in SC, he’ll take votes from Huck and Mitt in Florida.
frode on January 14, 2008 at 5:22 AM
屁理屈 と 変造:
何でこちらに日本語をしゃべてるかい？
;-)
Shirotayama on January 14, 2008 at 6:13 AM
That was a good line directed at the Huckster. I think it will stick too. Huckster needs training wheels and remedial geography.
Zorro on January 14, 2008 at 7:02 AM
I wanted to add (before it hit the submit button) that Fred did dodge Wolf’s further point concerning McCain. Not sure why he would dodge that and not slam McCain during the debate. Me thinks somethings afoot.
Zorro on January 14, 2008 at 7:04 AM
It was a prudent move for rino professional politicians. True conservatives objected to it.
peacenprosperity on January 14, 2008 at 7:04 AM
After viewing that interview clip…..
I’m voting for Thompson here in Florida regardless of the polls and previous primary/caucus placings…
American needs a genuine conservative principled leader….
All Hillary talked about on Russert was leading America with HER principles……..and that would be really bad..
If McPain or Huckageek get the nomination…..She wins
awesum on January 14, 2008 at 7:06 AM
Exactly what states does Thompson win that puts him over the top, electorally? More importantly what blue states does he even put into play?
His Waterloo would be Ohio or Virginia in a general election. Colorado, New Mexico and Iowa will likely go the other way if Thompson is the nominee.
Given that his poll numbers are hovering around single digits I think most voters realize the folly of a Thompson candidacy.
Bradky on January 14, 2008 at 7:14 AM
I like the “new, improved” csd better. I enjoy my friend’s wit and observations, even though I do not agree with him on some stands. Also, I like his choice in weaponry. And I apreciate his sons’ service to our country. Hang in there, csd.
And finally, I really got a laugh about one of our newcomer’s login handle: “Clinton Happens.” Good one
Texas Nick 77 on January 14, 2008 at 7:22 AM
I will never vote based on what I think a Democrat or a knock-kneed apathetic moderate will like more.
joewm315 on January 14, 2008 at 7:30 AM
McPain is the Bob Dole of 2008…….he LOSES the general election
HuckaGeek is the christian clown of the media…..he LOSES the general election
I’m appealing the common sense of conservatives/republicans/moderates/independants to:
1) Recognize the needed principles and vision of Thompson for America
2) Recognize the direction the democratic party will take America
3) Recognize the differance between glib likability and empty campagin rehtoric/promises….and real values. principles, and what makes America the ENVY of the world.
awesum on January 14, 2008 at 7:33 AM
Is this your first election or what? I notice you can’t answer the electoral question I posed.
Bradky on January 14, 2008 at 7:36 AM
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