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Well, he did raise his hand dutifully when asked about Global Warming.
Kini on January 12, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Oof. It’s getting harder for me to like Romney.
flipflop on January 12, 2008 at 10:24 PM
I’m shocked.
Metro on January 12, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Captain Obvious says: That didn’t sound too good.
AUINSC on January 12, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Mitt Romney is a dork
froghat on January 12, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Wow. How about some context? Is that one sentence all he said, or was there more?
Also, what is wrong with making the right promises?
Nothing.
joncoltonis on January 12, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Precisely – It makes a nice (sic) soundbite though if you’re inclined to say he’s making any kind of promises though.
SkinnerVic on January 12, 2008 at 10:35 PM
How do you conflate “the right promises” with “promise anything you have to?”
Plus, if you click the link, you’d get context. It’s easier just to whine, and the context doesn’t help the quote any, so you may not want to be bothered.
TexasDan on January 12, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Ruh roh,
ReorgeMitt.The young one still does not understand how to use the force (of conservatism). “Saying anything” will only lead on the path to the dark side (liberalism).
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 12, 2008 at 10:35 PM
sorry, i flubbed the quote. the gist is the same though.
TexasDan on January 12, 2008 at 10:35 PM
/Not surprised
joewm315 on January 12, 2008 at 10:36 PM
I’m stunned,can we throw away the Liberal handbook
and get back to the Republican handbook,before we have
no nominees’s left,except for Fred of course!
canopfor on January 12, 2008 at 10:42 PM
I still rate Mitt about middle of the pack on the liberal to conservative scale. He’s not a total liberal but not a Reagan conservative by a long shot. If he gets nominated I could vote for him, would vote for him. How tight I would have to pinch my nose varies from day to day. He’s better than Rudy in my view but that’s not saying much and he’s a whole bunch better than McCain and Huckabee who I consider undercover Democrats. It doesn’t surprise me that he would tell his people to promise anything to get votes and money. He is, after all, a politician.
Buzzy on January 12, 2008 at 10:44 PM
I support Mitt and Fred, though Duncan is my favorite, but, Mitt, this type of B.S. is going to kill your campaign faster than anything you imbecile.
Troy Rasmussen on January 12, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Hillary in the general…
This has always been my only issue with Mr. Romney.
Entelechy on January 12, 2008 at 10:48 PM
well if it was Clinton it would be “Make all the promises you have to keep none of them..”
William Amos on January 12, 2008 at 10:48 PM
What interesting is that all of the attacks on Romney always seem to be about a sound bite, sometimes something he said in private.
I haven’t seen anyone challenge him on his policy proposals or his record. It is always something he said in 94 or when running for Governor, or 35 years ago with his dog – whatever. Why is it that no goes after his record or his platform? Because it’s rock solid.
joncoltonis on January 12, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Different Michigan Figures:
McCain 27
Romney 26
Hucker 19
———
Romney 27
McCain 22
Hucker 16
http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN1234485120080113
CABE on January 12, 2008 at 10:50 PM
I very strongly suggest that we install the most fiscally principled candidate we can find and to me thats Romney hands down.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/wm627.cfm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxoP_9W6FC8
Speakup on January 12, 2008 at 10:53 PM
What a surprise.
Pax americana on January 12, 2008 at 10:54 PM
How about a link for the report quoted by Redstate? Sorry folks, just because they say the called ABC and they confirmed the quote, it’s easier if their is a video of it or a quote from a print story somewhere.
As bloody as this election season is going to be, I really don’t want to go with hearsay.
Pilgrim on January 12, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Rasmussen National Poll 01/12/08
McCain 24%
Huckabee 19%
Romney 16%
Thompson 13%
Giuliani 9%
William Amos on January 12, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Maybe he meant promise them anything, as in.. snow shovels and free babysitting?
jewells45 on January 12, 2008 at 10:56 PM
From the Redstate article.
Mitt has this reputation which has stuck. So I will ask again, when do you guys give up on the guy? Fred could really use the resources.
Bill C on January 12, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Wow. I would think AP, the man on the ground floor of exposing RatherGate, would be one of the first to dismiss this as another example of being taken out of context. Red State is partial to Fred “CFR” Thompson and they show it. Hot Air is starting to show it too. I wouldn’t mind if you guys would just go ahead and endorse Fred, but by not doing so you present yourselves as impartial conservative observers of this primary. Enjoy President Huckabee/Obama.
malan89 on January 12, 2008 at 11:02 PM
“The McClatchy-MSNBC Poll puts Romney at 30 percent, McCain at 22 percent…”
Mitt also won the Ottawa County straw poll.
CABE on January 12, 2008 at 11:04 PM
Does anyone else think this means “promise them you’ll win, you like every other candidate trying to raise funds?”
This doesn’t even come from Romney himself to a block of voters at a speaking event, he’s clearly telling his phone bank to promise victory.
But once again since HA is having a slow news day, its going back to the old Romney quote formula:
1. OH NO! ROMNEY SAID SOMETHING THAT CAN BE SPUN NEGATIVELY!, HE’S DOOMED!
2. Hollowpoint Rant
3. Oh wait, in context Mitt’s remarks make perfect sense.
4. Thread dies.
BKennedy on January 12, 2008 at 11:06 PM
They all promise the moon. This is hardly news.
SouthernGent on January 12, 2008 at 11:10 PM
BKennedy on January 12, 2008 at 11:06 PM
That’s pretty much my point. Hearsay does nothing for anyone right now except grab a quick headline. If there’s no proof(preferably video or audio) that a candidate said or did it…then *it* didn’t happen.
Pilgrim on January 12, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Good greif I thought it was silly when the fredheads moaned about how Fred was treated on here and now the Romniacs are going to start in that Hotair hates them ?
At least lets all agree we hate Ron Paul.
William Amos on January 12, 2008 at 11:11 PM
C’mon you guys! ABC News would NEVER spin a quote taken out of context, especially not from a conservative republican. When did the MSM become a reliable source? ANSWER: When the spin job of the day benefits YOUR guy.
malan89 on January 12, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Romney would make a fine VP where people would get the chance to see him work toward conservative goals for 4 or 8 solid years. The MA health care plan is a loser for conservatives, as is the “better for gays than Ted Kennedy” and “attended Planned Parenthood fundraisers” backdrop he has now. That doesn’t even take into account the gun control stuff which I think is going to get big in the wake of the administration’s action on the DC gun ban case.
Romney seems like a really nice man with a lovely family, but my biggest concern with him is his reticence to be tough on opponents. Really, if you can’t deliver an angry rebuke to someone who has accused you of being in a quasi-Satanic cult religion and played ugly class warfare ads against you, you may not have what it’s going to take to beat a democrat….unless you are a successful sitting vice president.
funky chicken on January 12, 2008 at 11:16 PM
The quote may have been taken out of micro context here, but the problem is that it fits the macro context that has some people concerned.
funky chicken on January 12, 2008 at 11:18 PM
You are truly a uniter. The thin line that separates Romney and Fred (both generally decent conservatives) disappears when you think about guys like Paul and Huck.
malan89 on January 12, 2008 at 11:18 PM
I’m better for gays than Ted Kennedy, I believe they need the compassion to be told their affliction is dangerous and they should seek conseling to avoid the self-destructive subculture it lures people into.
Ted Kennedy believes that you should tell gays to be who they want to be, just like he would give alcholohics a 30-pack (he does make them share though, it’s usually a 6 pack by the time Teddy is done.)
BKennedy on January 12, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Well, both AP and MM don’t have too much love for Fred. Heck, Fred is one of APs fun ‘goof targets’. They aren’t hostile, but just aren’t too enthused by him. BP seems to like him a good bit. I will say that the commentariat here seems to lean a bit more for Fred than anybody else (I include myself in that number). But to say HA is itself is carrying Fred’s water is stretching it too far.
AUINSC on January 12, 2008 at 11:24 PM
As for your biggest concern, check out this little
spat.
AMEN to that brother!
SkinnerVic on January 12, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Seriously, HOTAIR has been in Fred’s camp since day one. I don’t have a problem with that, just say so. I’ve always thought Romney, Thompson and Hunter were the conservatives on the ballot anyways. Anyone of those 3 would be exceptable, even Rudy would be ok – because I know he is going to lower taxes, and nominate conservative judges if for no other reason than he has to in order to get re-elected.
What I could not stand for is a liberal like Huckabee or McCain at the head of the party. At that point, the party has lost me. I will not vote either of them at the head of the ticket and if we are going to get amnesty, tax increases, and bigger government – better it be done by a Democrat.
joncoltonis on January 12, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Romney spoke to a crowd assembled at tables in a large conference room who were making fund-raising calls for the former governor. After telling the callers jokingly, “make all the promises you need to,” he tried his hand at it, telling the person at the other end of the line, “I’ve got the lead now.”
Deety on January 12, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Sorry been having trouble using the link tools to CNN political ticker. I’ll try again.
Deety on January 12, 2008 at 11:34 PM
I didn’t mean to make it sound as if Hot Air is recklessly shilling for Fred, but I would have liked to seen some kind of recognition that this is a hitpiece by what is virtually a rival campaign. Maybe Hot Air doesn’t openly pimp for Fred, but Red State does.
malan89 on January 12, 2008 at 11:35 PM
I don’t agree. I’m sure AP will be happy to disavow any love for ‘The Fred’ and his ‘Fredheads’.
AUINSC on January 12, 2008 at 11:36 PM
and Romney’s camp and Rudy’s and whoever according to all of their supporters.
EnochCain on January 12, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Been trying to get this on Hot Air since early yesterday AM in another thread but apparently my link and quote tools aren’t working. For a story with the quote and without the ellipses go to CNN political ticker. The story is Romney pledges to win Michigan. Sorry for my infelicity in using the technology.
Deety on January 12, 2008 at 11:41 PM
I think HA spreads it out pretty evenly (with the exception of Huck and Paul, but they provide so much material, you just can’t ignore it). I don’t know about Red State, I don’t read it.
AUINSC on January 12, 2008 at 11:41 PM
bnelson44 on January 12, 2008 at 11:42 PM
I have to apologize to the MSM. It wasn’t their fault this time. Whatever blogger wrote hitpiece at Red State
tookripped this quote out of context in order to demonstrate his point.malan89 on January 12, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Oh dear. You may have missed the Fredhead criticism that was going on a couple/few weeks ago.
malan89, vic The exchange you sent makes me wonder who the hell Romney has been listening to, or if he is taking his own lousy advice to always work so hard to present the perfect sunny, positive “presidential” demeanor in all his public appearances and debates. It’s terrible advice that makes the accusation that he’s the NE Rockefeller Stepford-candidate close to being a self-fulfilling prophecy.
You know what it reminds me of? Bob Dole in 1996. Bob Dole is a funny man, smart as hell, and with a sharp/wicked sense of humor. But he had campaign advisors who somehow convinced him to not show that side at all, because Clinton would run away with his MSM cheerleaders about how “MEAN” old Bob Dole was.
Not that it probably mattered much, as the bloom wasn’t totally off the Clinton rose yet, but imagine the visual image…the pre-heart problem big, vigorous Clinton crying about being bullied by a septuagenarian with limited use of one arm from a WWII wound.
Romney needs to drop the sunny, wooden, fake self and actually be a man if he wants to beat a democrat. And if he can’t do it, well he wouldn’t be our best nominee for POTUS this time around.
funky chicken on January 12, 2008 at 11:44 PM
Does anyone have a link to the the transcript? I’d like to read the whole quote, not just the one sentence.
JustTruth101 on January 12, 2008 at 11:46 PM
I don’t either. Just skim down the blogroll…
malan89 on January 12, 2008 at 11:46 PM
When everybody in Massachusetts realizes the consequences of Romney’s mandatory health care law he’s going have a hard time getting anybody who is for limited government to consider voting for him. And everybody will realize it in the next few weeks.
All health insurance companies who cover people who live in Massachusetts will be required to provide new form 1099-HC. This new form 1099-HC is the proof of insurance the Commonwealth now requires. Anyone who does not receive a 1099-HC will have to get one before they fill out their tax returns. It is an information only form, like other 1099′s, and doesn’t have to mailed in with the Mass Return, but we’ve all been warned to make sure we get one because it’s that form that the Commonwealth will use to determine who is NOT in compliance with the mandatory insurance law so they can fine them.
I haven’t looked at the 2007 Mass Return yet, but there’s probably a line for it. W2′s and 1099′s and other forms usually come in the last couple of weeks of January and the first couple of weeks in February.
I didn’t care about the mandatory insurance law because I’ve always had health insurance. But I’m pissed off about it now.
Form 1099 is usually a form that reports income. How long do you think it will be before some politician gets the bright idea to start taxing the company paid portion of health care benefits?
I can’t wait to get mine and see if it breaks it down that way.
Jaynie59 on January 12, 2008 at 11:48 PM
I was a little harsh on AP, he only linked it. I should be angry with Red State, the one’s who took this quote out of context in order to shill for their guy. These are the kind of people that will lose the election for true conservatives like Fred and Mitt.
malan89 on January 12, 2008 at 11:52 PM
HA doesn’t pimp for Fred, they leave that to us Fredheads. Fred is the only conservative running this year and HA is a conservative site. Inevitability sets in… inevitably.
Mojave Mark on January 12, 2008 at 11:55 PM
It also reminds me of Gerald Ford maybe. I saw him speak at a breakfast in Beaver Creek, CO about 14 years ago. I went thinking it would be a nice event and breakfast was included, so why not? I left extremely impressed by the man and his intellect and grasp on world and national affairs. He was already 80 at the time, but was physically strong and moved gracefully. He took questions and answered them really well too.
The media hate Republicans, so if a GOP politician wants to win the nomination and then the White House, that politician’s gonna have to be willing to fight, in public, to show their true strengths and some swagger.
Of course when I was in college I had a friend ask me why I enjoyed dating muscle-bound alpha male types too. Perhaps it’s just a personal preference.
If I wanted a soft, feminine POTUS I’d be a John Edwards supporter.
funky chicken on January 12, 2008 at 11:55 PM
If the MA bill doesn’t represent limited gov’t, I don’t know what does. People shouldn’t be allowed to go without health insurance and then demand care on the taxpayer’s dime. Those people DESERVE to be fined for the free care they are getting on our paychecks.
malan89 on January 12, 2008 at 11:55 PM
I’m not going to spin this. It’s distasteful on it’s face. Though I won’t pass judgment either without seeing a more full context.
Spirit of 1776 on January 12, 2008 at 11:57 PM
There is no 100% perfect conservative in this race.
Maybe you should have your guy read the first amendment.
malan89 on January 12, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Echo chambers are just echo chambers. That part of what makes HA nice. We even, apparently, have some Huck supporters to banter with.
Spirit of 1776 on January 12, 2008 at 11:59 PM
malan89 on January 12, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Oh dear. I’m done.
funky chicken on January 13, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Spirit, I am not a RedState expert, but isn’t it a big group blog? Each contributor has his own page and unique viewpoint? Or am I thinking of something else?
funky chicken on January 13, 2008 at 12:04 AM
That should be funded by charity, not the government. Protectionist regulations for hospitals and large clinics, abusive lawsuits and other stifling regulation have also helped skyrocket costs, if we free up the market and enact tort reform to smack down
Silky Ponyall ambulance chasers, those costs will go down. See, small government works, for both you religious cons and small gov’t/libertarian types.doubleplusundead on January 13, 2008 at 12:04 AM
I love you people. If you accomplish 1/1,000th what this “dork” has in your lifetime you’ll have exceeded your own expectations.
TheBigOldDog on January 13, 2008 at 12:04 AM
Look, obviously we would all love it if there was no gov’t intervention at all. But, we have a Democratic congress and two of the frontrunners in the race for the Presidency want to take the role of the consumer in healthcare choices and hand it over to the gov’t. We have to settle for flawed solutions like the one in MA that bring a little personal responsibility into healthcare.
malan89 on January 13, 2008 at 12:05 AM
I WHOLE HEARTEDLY agree with your comments on tort reform. The costs of malpractice insurance are putting a huge burden on doctors and their patients.
malan89 on January 13, 2008 at 12:07 AM
What free care? Do you have any statistics on how many people who can afford to pay for health insurance, and do not have any, who then get free care?
Give me a number. I’m curious how many of these people there really are.
By your reasoning, all of us people who pay for health insurance and never use it should get a refund every year. I never use it. I never go to the doctor. Other than yearly check ups for my kid, I’ve never used it.
I want a refund!
That’s what all insurance is. It’s a bet. You bet you will get sick. The insurance companies bet you won’t get sick. That’s how all insurance works.
Jaynie59 on January 13, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Bull, Romneycare is nothing but framework for a gov’t takeover.
doubleplusundead on January 13, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Read up about Romney’s plan for restoring personal responsibility to healthcare in Massachusetts.
malan89 on January 13, 2008 at 12:10 AM
Nice gotcha “journalism” AP and red-state. It’s something we “rarely” see with the dinosaur media. It’s good to see that the “new” media utilizes it too. Do me a favor AP and be a little more transparent next time.
Cold Steel on January 13, 2008 at 12:11 AM
I wish I had a chance of accomplishing 1/1000th of what that lazy old Fred Thompson has done too.
Thompson was born into much more modest financial circumstances than I was too.
Oh well, I guess somebody should stay home to raise the kids.
funky chicken on January 13, 2008 at 12:13 AM
You might be right. Maybe I’m thinking of somewhere else. I’m losing my familiarity with the rest of the web, I find myself here for political news most of the time now.
Spirit of 1776 on January 13, 2008 at 12:14 AM
I don’t want it on a Federal level until we see what happens with it in Mass. My guess is the state gov’t takes it over within ten years, assuming we don’t begin the backslide into Marxism and end up with Federal control.
doubleplusundead on January 13, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Anyone else think Mitt Romney looks like Bill Medley from the Righteous Brothers? CHeck it out. lol
http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000001FZC.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
froghat on January 13, 2008 at 12:18 AM
Mitt has a serious problem. It’s not what he says, it’s his rep.
When even innocuous crap like this is being spun, it means a meme has been built up.
Both Thompson and Romney have the bulk of conservative radio and bloggers with them. That’s a heckuvalot tailwind, yet neither seems to make anything of it.
What gives?
tlclark on January 13, 2008 at 12:21 AM
First off….go to the doctor and try to pay for those checkups without your insurance. You’ll be shocked. You can thank people like Breck Girl for that (see the discussion on tort reform a few posts up). God forbid you or your child do get sick, you’ll be glad you have a good insurance policy. Secondly, I can’t even comprehend the ammount of people that waltz into the hospital and get free care. Just google it.
malan89 on January 13, 2008 at 12:21 AM
ooo, that sounded bad. We move a lot and my husband deploys a lot, so I have chosen to be home so the kids have stability. It’s paid off and is worth it.
funky chicken on January 13, 2008 at 12:21 AM
Do you have a candidate you support or you just insulting candidates for some trolling fun?
Spirit of 1776 on January 13, 2008 at 12:24 AM
I pay out of pocket for my primary care. Many family practice/general med docs don’t take new military dependents any more. A standard Dr. visit is about $75. If people don’t want to have to use charity clinics run by churches, they should, I dunno, get a job so they can either pay for their appointments or for insurance.
It’s pathetic that we no longer possess the intestinal fortitude to tell people that.
funky chicken on January 13, 2008 at 12:26 AM
well, time for mommy to say good night!
funky chicken on January 13, 2008 at 12:26 AM
My friend, we’ve already begun to slip…
malan89 on January 13, 2008 at 12:27 AM
Spirit of 1776, Yes. How bout dem apples? lol
froghat on January 13, 2008 at 12:27 AM
What free care? Have you been to an emergency room lately and seen it clogged with people who have no health insurance coverage sitting there waiting for free treatment because by law they cannot be refused? Do you not fundamentally understand the nature of the Health care crisis in America?
Here’s the idea in a nutshell. The government pickups the full tab for all the uninsured now. Because they have no coverage, the go to emergency rooms (expensive) for routine care that could handled better and cheaper by a General Practitioner in his office (much less expensive). They also tend to let problems linger longer because of the inability to go to a doctor’s office so they wind up with worse conditions costing more money and time to treat in the ER.
The idea is, make it similar to Auto insurance by forcing everyone to be covered by some private plan. Those not covered by their employers and cannot afford the premiums are put into a group and buy insurance as a group (which is much cheaper) and have their premiums subsidized according to their financial ability to pay. In the end, costs come down and the government (the taxpayers) save money. Will it work? We’ll see. It just started.
TheBigOldDog on January 13, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Fred and Mitt and pretty much done at this point. That leaves Huck, McCain, and Rudy. Your choice
froghat on January 13, 2008 at 12:29 AM
Great and if you or your family winds up with a catastrophic illness we the taxpayers will be paying for your care because you don’t have any insurance.
TheBigOldDog on January 13, 2008 at 12:30 AM
That’s fine. Was just curious. Thought I’d check before I start skipping by since I hadn’t seen otherwise. (Though since the last open registration there is no way I’ve read all the comments)
Spirit of 1776 on January 13, 2008 at 12:31 AM
Yeah, and I say we don’t give them an inch.
doubleplusundead on January 13, 2008 at 12:32 AM
Personally, I hope Romney wins on Tuesday. That will keep the nomination wide open and improve Rudy’s chances in Florida.
froghat on January 13, 2008 at 12:34 AM
You’ve just tacked down the main component in Mitt’s healthcare plan, personal responsibility. Remember, a lot of the final MA plan was doctored (pun not intended) by the very conservative MA legislature.
On an unrelated note, I think I speak for everyone here when I thank your family for your husband’s service.
malan89 on January 13, 2008 at 12:34 AM
Sure, I’ll just take your word on it. You seem to really have a handle on things.
AUINSC on January 13, 2008 at 12:35 AM
Am I blocked from Posting?
weird
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on January 13, 2008 at 12:39 AM
I’m afraid you may be right. I saw Rudy on Fox this morning talking about cutting the corporate tax in half. If he kept his promise about not appointing judges that would support the genocide of American babies (sorry for the strong language, but that’s what it is), I could see myself tolerating a Rudy presidency.
malan89 on January 13, 2008 at 12:39 AM
AUINSC, I will fistfight you at the gates of hell!!!!
froghat on January 13, 2008 at 12:39 AM
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and so no.
AUINSC on January 13, 2008 at 12:41 AM
There’s a reason why its called FredState. Their sister site, Human Events, has endorsed Fred. I was there but left about early last year when it became an anti-Mitt site. Same with Fred Republic. This is just an example of how little people have on him. Its always a sound bite or a minor incident or his ancestors.
There’s no dirt from Bain Capital, is there? The Olympics? How about as Governor? Family matters? The Kennedy machine, which is just as powerful as the Clinton machine has already invested a boatload of money on these things and wasted every penny.
Imagine a President where something like this would be considered a scandal.
Greenhorn on January 13, 2008 at 12:42 AM
Ok, I’ll clear my calendar.
AUINSC on January 13, 2008 at 12:42 AM
No, I think there are some bugs in the system, they modded it a bit to deal with the increase of posters, so there might be some residual problems…just guessing. You’re not the first to have problems.
doubleplusundead on January 13, 2008 at 12:43 AM
ok they are not allowing me to post links here on this thread
thats very weird.
I went to Google and typed in: “cnn Mitt”
its the first link
then look under jan 8, 2008
his quote is being taken out of context
go see for yourself.
I am not claiming shenanagins yet but why cant I link to CNN?
I am just trying to show folks the WHOLE quote!!!
-Wasteland Man.
WastelandMan on January 13, 2008 at 12:44 AM
No, you will follow him into the gates of hell.
The 2008 GOP race….who hates terrorists the mostest????
malan89 on January 13, 2008 at 12:44 AM
What’s John McCain most overused quote?
“I will follow him into the gates of hell” or
“The next pork project that comes to my desk, I will veto it and make the authors of it famous”
haha
froghat on January 13, 2008 at 12:46 AM
Yeah, well you probably supported the BRIDGE TO NOWHERE!!!!!!
malan89 on January 13, 2008 at 12:47 AM
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