Comments on: Brits ready to presume consent to organ donation http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/ The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast network Mon, 28 May 2012 16:18:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: 7ea1a0b74730 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-1116691 7ea1a0b74730 Sat, 10 May 2008 09:18:45 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-1116691 <strong>7ea1a0b74730...</strong> 7ea1a0b74730a614afd1... 7ea1a0b74730…

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]]> By: LimeyGeek http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-877213 LimeyGeek Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:42:40 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-877213 When dusk approaches, I will sell everything, move to Vegas, and go out in a blaze of booze drugs and whores. The only safe thing to do with my corpse will be to burn it. In a blast furnace On another planet When dusk approaches, I will sell everything, move to Vegas, and go out in a blaze of booze drugs and whores.

The only safe thing to do with my corpse will be to burn it.

In a blast furnace

On another planet

]]> By: Kini http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-875497 Kini Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:32:25 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-875497 My organs are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna git. My organs are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you’re gonna git.

]]> By: Jaibones http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-875393 Jaibones Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:33:57 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-875393 Let's see, here...Allah's squeamish about losing his organs, when he's an atheist and (presumably) believes that his last breath will shake hands with his last sentient thought. The Christians are all fully aware of their continuing life as well as the fact that our bodies are temporary and disposable, so we (presumably) have no problem vuluntarily donating any and all baggage that we will not need in the next life. And libertarian anti-big-government Christians will be screaming bloody murder over the policy, while insisting that they should all voluntarily pledge their organs. Great fun all around. Let’s see, here…Allah’s squeamish about losing his organs, when he’s an atheist and (presumably) believes that his last breath will shake hands with his last sentient thought.

The Christians are all fully aware of their continuing life as well as the fact that our bodies are temporary and disposable, so we (presumably) have no problem vuluntarily donating any and all baggage that we will not need in the next life.

And libertarian anti-big-government Christians will be screaming bloody murder over the policy, while insisting that they should all voluntarily pledge their organs.

Great fun all around.

]]> By: The Thin Man Returns http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-875300 The Thin Man Returns Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:39:35 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-875300 I'm very surprised by your comments AP. <em>Squeamishness</em> over doctors using bits that you're never going to need again and then to turn around to suggest that religious people might be superstitious if they don't tick the donation box? Lack of donor organs is a universal problem. In Australia where we have the opt in system, we have had cases of family members overruling the deceased wishes on harvesting, so I'd be in favour of an opt out system. And I say this Christian who has been a card carrying organ donor since the age of 15 - when I die, the doctors are welcome to anything they can use (I'll try to leave it in good condition). BTW AP Nick asks, do you hoard parts for cars you no longer own? <strong>-- Nora</strong> I’m very surprised by your comments AP.

Squeamishness over doctors using bits that you’re never going to need again and then to turn around to suggest that religious people might be superstitious if they don’t tick the donation box?

Lack of donor organs is a universal problem. In Australia where we have the opt in system, we have had cases of family members overruling the deceased wishes on harvesting, so I’d be in favour of an opt out system.

And I say this Christian who has been a card carrying organ donor since the age of 15 – when I die, the doctors are welcome to anything they can use (I’ll try to leave it in good condition).

BTW AP Nick asks, do you hoard parts for cars you no longer own?

– Nora

]]> By: Capitana http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-875169 Capitana Sun, 13 Jan 2008 19:04:57 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-875169 My solution? Treta your body so poorly that by the time you die (in your mid forties) nobody will be able to use them. My solution?
Treta your body so poorly that by the time you die (in your mid forties) nobody will be able to use them.

]]> By: Red Alerts http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-875151 Red Alerts Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:51:16 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-875151 <strong>England to Institute Red China-Like Organ Harvesting Program...</strong> And like Red China there could be no way a program like this would lead to wide spread human rights violations, like the state executing people for the express purpose of harvesting their organs. From The Telegraph: Gordon Brown has thrown his weight b... England to Institute Red China-Like Organ Harvesting Program…

And like Red China there could be no way a program like this would lead to wide spread human rights violations, like the state executing people for the express purpose of harvesting their organs.
From The Telegraph:
Gordon Brown has thrown his weight b…

]]> By: aengus http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-874994 aengus Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:30:44 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-874994 <blockquote>I would be interested to know who, what politicians or “leaders” and groups, are proposing such left wing lunacy. We hear of these type of polcies but finding out who proposes them and makes them mandatory is difficult.</blockquote> The British Government (i.e. the Labour Party) writes the legislation. I wish I could be more specific and tell you which MP came up with this piece of craziness but it could have been any of them, they're all in tandem pretty much.

I would be interested to know who, what politicians or “leaders” and groups, are proposing such left wing lunacy. We hear of these type of polcies but finding out who proposes them and makes them mandatory is difficult.

The British Government (i.e. the Labour Party) writes the legislation. I wish I could be more specific and tell you which MP came up with this piece of craziness but it could have been any of them, they’re all in tandem pretty much.

]]> By: forest http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-874968 forest Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:57:45 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-874968 I'm a donor, but I'm against this program. It should be an "opt in" rather than "opt out" deal. The default position here is that your organs <em>will</em> be taken unless you do something about it - not right. I’m a donor, but I’m against this program.

It should be an “opt in” rather than “opt out” deal. The default position here is that your organs will be taken unless you do something about it – not right.

]]> By: omegaram http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-874958 omegaram Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:48:16 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-874958 <strong>I had been been discounting the visions of Britain becoming the stuff of "1984" legend. The more I hear of their policies and their attitudes I not only believe that Britain could not only become such a state, but that it is well on the road to such a society - all to favor the left.</strong> I can see a time when those who need medical treatment would avoid hosptials in such a state, where they are considered not as patients needing care, but organ donors, when they check in. I would be interested to know who, what politicians or "leaders" and groups, are proposing such left wing lunacy. We hear of these type of polcies but finding out who proposes them and makes them mandatory is difficult. I had been been discounting the visions of Britain becoming the stuff of “1984″ legend. The more I hear of their policies and their attitudes I not only believe that Britain could not only become such a state, but that it is well on the road to such a society – all to favor the left.

I can see a time when those who need medical treatment would avoid hosptials in such a state, where they are considered not as patients needing care, but organ donors, when they check in.

I would be interested to know who, what politicians or “leaders” and groups, are proposing such left wing lunacy. We hear of these type of polcies but finding out who proposes them and makes them mandatory is difficult.

]]> By: aengus http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-874947 aengus Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:33:56 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-874947 <a href="http://www.stewarthomesociety.org/images/gallery/necrocard.jpg" rel="nofollow">Necrocard</a> Necrocard

]]> By: sinsing http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-874936 sinsing Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:16:30 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-874936 This is a very bad idea. Those on respirators (and maybe those who hit their heads and go unconscious for more than say - two hours) will certainly start experiencing an early demise. I do believe that permitting citizens over 25 years old to offer a kidney or a piece of their livers, etc., for a price, ought to be considered. This is a very bad idea. Those on respirators (and maybe those who hit their heads and go unconscious for more than say – two hours) will certainly start experiencing an early demise.

I do believe that permitting citizens over 25 years old to offer a kidney or a piece of their livers, etc., for a price, ought to be considered.

]]> By: rgranger http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-874935 rgranger Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:14:27 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-874935 IF they made it mandatory, it may be a good way to "self-deport" a certain segment of the socitiy. I would cough up a liver when dead to free my daughter from that looming mess that awaits us all. IF they made it mandatory, it may be a good way to “self-deport” a certain segment of the socitiy. I would cough up a liver when dead to free my daughter from that looming mess that awaits us all.

]]> By: monkeywrench http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-874927 monkeywrench Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:52:33 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-874927 Ridiculous. You know what would help lessen the shortage of organs for transplants? <em>Legalising trade in organs!</em> I honestly don't know why it is illegal. It would fit in inside a free market - the idea is inconsistent with socialised medicine. Ridiculous.

You know what would help lessen the shortage of organs for transplants?
Legalising trade in organs!

I honestly don’t know why it is illegal.

It would fit in inside a free market – the idea is inconsistent with socialised medicine.

]]> By: frreal http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-874922 frreal Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:44:27 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-874922 How about a rule you must be a donor to be a recipient. Fill out a legal form when you get your license. Not a donor when those kidneys fail equals no name on the list. It wouldn't take too many deaths before people decided what was in their best interest and take <em>personal responsibility</em>. Law would not apply to children of course. How about a rule you must be a donor to be a recipient. Fill out a legal form when you get your license. Not a donor when those kidneys fail equals no name on the list. It wouldn’t take too many deaths before people decided what was in their best interest and take personal responsibility. Law would not apply to children of course.

]]> By: Doug http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-874915 Doug Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:24:50 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-874915 Dennis Etchison got here first; I think the book was "The Dark Country". Chilling stuff. I don't care what happens to my 'remains'. They won't be me anymore. Dennis Etchison got here first; I think the book was “The Dark Country”. Chilling stuff.
I don’t care what happens to my ‘remains’. They won’t be me anymore.

]]> By: William2006 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-874908 William2006 Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:05:47 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-874908 <blockquote>I do not want my organs going to demoncrats or RINOs. <em>saved on January 13, 2008 at 7:59 AM</em> </blockquote><blockquote>Soylant Green is people!!!! It’s people!!!!!! The Brits stick organs in all their food, so keep an eye on that kidney pie next time, mate. <em>Hening on January 13, 2008 at 8:01 AM</em> </blockquote><blockquote>If you have a spine injury…donate your legs early. <em>tomas on January 13, 2008 at 8:11</em> AM</blockquote> Those three posts appeared in sequence, and all three made me laugh. How clever! The concern I have is that they need to withdraw your organs before you are completely dead. This can cause a problem. When you run a race in track and field, you want to run PAST, or THROUGH the tape, so you actually push beyond it and don't slow down as you are approaching it. When you break something in martial arts (other than your hand or foot) you want to break through the object and beyond, drive through, not just aim for the top of the object. If you are injured and they don't do everything they can to save you because they want to get your organs, you might be the "lucky" one who could have survived, but they stopped short. If that doesn't bother you, then it doesn't matter, but if you don't like that idea, then it does matter. William

I do not want my organs going to demoncrats or RINOs.

saved on January 13, 2008 at 7:59 AM

Soylant Green is people!!!! It’s people!!!!!!

The Brits stick organs in all their food, so keep an eye on that kidney pie next time, mate.

Hening on January 13, 2008 at 8:01 AM

If you have a spine injury…donate your legs early.

tomas on January 13, 2008 at 8:11 AM

Those three posts appeared in sequence, and all three made me laugh.

How clever!

The concern I have is that they need to withdraw your organs before you are completely dead. This can cause a problem.

When you run a race in track and field, you want to run PAST, or THROUGH the tape, so you actually push beyond it and don’t slow down as you are approaching it.

When you break something in martial arts (other than your hand or foot) you want to break through the object and beyond, drive through, not just aim for the top of the object.

If you are injured and they don’t do everything they can to save you because they want to get your organs, you might be the “lucky” one who could have survived, but they stopped short.

If that doesn’t bother you, then it doesn’t matter, but if you don’t like that idea, then it does matter.

William

]]> By: passingtramp http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-874899 passingtramp Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:17:08 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-874899 Having it opt-out seems reasonable to me - you're still at liberty to keep your organs. The idea of hospitals/doctors having incentives to up the number of donors does seem bad though. Having it opt-out seems reasonable to me – you’re still at liberty to keep your organs. The idea of hospitals/doctors having incentives to up the number of donors does seem bad though.

]]> By: tomas http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-874898 tomas Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:11:48 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-874898 If you have a spine injury...donate your legs early. If you have a spine injury…donate your legs early.

]]> By: Hening http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-874892 Hening Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:01:59 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-874892 Soylant Green is people!!!! It's people!!!!!! The Brits stick organs in all their food, so keep an eye on that kidney pie next time, mate. Soylant Green is people!!!! It’s people!!!!!!

The Brits stick organs in all their food, so keep an eye on that kidney pie next time, mate.

]]> By: saved http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-874888 saved Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:59:37 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-874888 I do not want my organs going to demoncrats or RINOs. I do not want my organs going to demoncrats or RINOs.

]]> By: James http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-874886 James Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:55:26 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-874886 <blockquote>I’m an organ donor but I can’t really say that I hope you get to use something of mine one day. Mojave Mark on January 13, 2008 at 12:04 AM</blockquote> No need to worry...I've opted out of the receiving end already.

I’m an organ donor but I can’t really say that I hope you get to use something of mine one day.

Mojave Mark on January 13, 2008 at 12:04 AM

No need to worry…I’ve opted out of the receiving end already.

]]> By: Blake http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-874859 Blake Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:55:32 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-874859 I'm on the donor list. They can have everything so long as I'm not a cadaver in a university. I've had anatomy. I know what they do with those dead bodies. But, if my donations will allow someone else to live, have at it. I'm also on the bone marrow donation list. Those of you who are so afraid somebody is going to kill you for your body parts (ha!) should at least consider bone marrow donation. Then again, most people really don't give a shit unless they or their love ones are the one who are sick. I’m on the donor list. They can have everything so long as I’m not a cadaver in a university. I’ve had anatomy. I know what they do with those dead bodies. But, if my donations will allow someone else to live, have at it. I’m also on the bone marrow donation list. Those of you who are so afraid somebody is going to kill you for your body parts (ha!) should at least consider bone marrow donation. Then again, most people really don’t give a shit unless they or their love ones are the one who are sick.

]]> By: FloatingRock http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-874847 FloatingRock Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:10:22 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-874847 If anybody would like to read some classic science fiction on the topic of organ harvesting, I would recommend Larry Niven’s, <em>A Gift from Earth</em>. If anybody would like to read some classic science fiction on the topic of organ harvesting, I would recommend Larry Niven’s, A Gift from Earth.

]]> By: unseen http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/comment-page-1/#comment-874827 unseen Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:23:33 +0000 http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/12/brits-ready-to-presume-consent-to-organ-donation/#comment-874827 Solvent Green meet 1984. Solvent Green meet 1984.

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