National Poll: McCain gets a big bounce
posted at 5:13 pm on January 11, 2008 by Bryan
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John McCain’s victory in Tuesday’s New Hampshire primary appears to be paying off.
The senator from Arizona is the front-runner in the battle for the Republican presidential nomination, according to the first national poll taken after the New Hampshire primary.
McCain has the support of 34 percent of registered Republicans in a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey out Friday. That’s a 21-point jump from the last CNN/Opinion Research poll, taken in December, well before the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary earlier this month.
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who won the Iowa Republican caucuses, is in second place in the new survey, with 21 percent of those registered Republicans polled supporting him for the GOP nomination.
Rudy Giuliani follows with 18 percent, a drop of six points from the December poll, when the former New York City mayor was the front-runner.
“Only McCain gained support among Republicans nationally. McCain’s now the clear Republican front-runner,” said Bill Schneider, CNN senior political analyst.
34-21-18-14-6 (Romney and Fred making up fourth and fifth respectively) — double-digits for McCain. McCain is also ahead in South Carolina’s most recent Rasmussen poll, though that poll was snapped before the debate. Huck leads the averages, but none of those polls reflect post-debate shifts either.
Is McCain now the presumptive nominee? Are we looking at a McCain-Huckabee ticket? How many times will we have to beat back shamnesty if he’s elected (never mind if the Democrats win)? Am I the only conservative who’s getting punchy from being more concerned with stopping potential nominees than with coalescing around one and supporting him?
Is the racial feeding frenzy that’s consuming the Billary-Obama race our only hope now?
Update: Did I mention racial overtones on the Dem side?
She is staking out policy ground slightly to the left of Obama on domestic issues, and noticeably won the votes of those on lower incomes and without college degrees. In the words of that Clinton adviser: “If you have a social need, you’re with Hillary. If you want Obama to be your imaginary hip black friend and you’re young and you have no social needs, then he’s cool.“
All together now, “Imagine if a Republican adviser had said this.”
Meanwhile, outside the McCain campaign on our side, Rudy insists he has cash on hand even while his top staffers are going without pay and he’s cratering in Florida, which was his big stand state. Guess who is leading in Florida now? The same guy who’s bouncing nationally.
Update: From the CNN story linked above, some good news, sort of.
Early victories appear to have boosted Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York and Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois in the Democratic nomination battle, with Clinton the choice of nearly half of registered Democrats nationwide.
Clinton is at 49 percent in the new poll, up nine points from the December survey, with Obama at 36 percent, which is a six-point gain from his December standing.
A McCain-Clinton race in November might be in our future. I’ll try to contain my excitement.
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Huckabee and McCain must be stopped! Vote Mitt!
davenp35 on January 11, 2008 at 5:15 PM
Another radical change in the polls; who on Earth thinks any of these reflect anything but the moment? Support is soft clear across the board to a point where these things are meaningless and will be right up to February 5th, when the only ‘polls’ that carry weight start to get accomplished in meaningful numbers.
michaelo on January 11, 2008 at 5:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsGSMJV_KqI
Zetterson on January 11, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Yikes!
yo on January 11, 2008 at 5:18 PM
Huckabee and McCain must be stopped! Vote Fred!
Editor on January 11, 2008 at 5:18 PM
McCain is a nasty-vicious wolf in sheep’s clothing
colep on January 11, 2008 at 5:19 PM
Probably.
doubleplusundead on January 11, 2008 at 5:20 PM
Some truth about McCain.
davenp35 on January 11, 2008 at 5:20 PM
You know who to coalesce around Bryan.
Theworldisnotenough on January 11, 2008 at 5:21 PM
Unless Fred starts kicking ass of course.
doubleplusundead on January 11, 2008 at 5:21 PM
The unfortunate thing is that McCain appeals to moderates on social issues and conservatives on Foreign policy.
But watching McCain last night I dont think he would like Huck as VP. He seemed to barely tolerate Paul and Mitt might be a Vp possibility for him. As would Fred.
Fred might have kept his powder dry on McCain for two reasons. One is that since he isnt doping as well he’d rather see McCain than Huckabee.
William Amos on January 11, 2008 at 5:22 PM
Huckabee/ McCain 08!
Wise Golden on January 11, 2008 at 5:23 PM
Seriously, what the heck?
HYTEAndy on January 11, 2008 at 5:23 PM
I challenge McCain, Huck, and Guliani, the three front-runners, to explain how their proposals will help with this situation. Over 70% of Americans voiced their opinion against the shamnesty bill and shut down the Capitol switchboard. Where the hell are they now??
fred5678 on January 11, 2008 at 5:23 PM
Or McCain/Huckabee 08!
Wise Golden on January 11, 2008 at 5:24 PM
Huckabee/ McCain 08!
Wise Golden on January 11, 2008 at 5:23 PM
/puke
stlpatriot on January 11, 2008 at 5:24 PM
At a clan meeting?
Wise Golden on January 11, 2008 at 5:24 PM
McCain lost me with amnesty and some other postions he has taken. I respect his service record and am thankful for it but I can’t support his positions. The Huckster is no better than Bill Clinton. His policies are as liberal as any Democrat and I will never be able to vote for him in good conscience. He drags Chuck Norris around with him on his campaign. I like Chuck on TV and that’s where he should stay. I believe I read somewhere that he has never even voted. Why would I listen to the opinion of someone who has never take advantage of the greatest right and vote for Huckabee. The Hollywierds should stick to reading from a prepared script and stay out of politics.
Les in NC on January 11, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Klan
Wise Golden on January 11, 2008 at 5:25 PM
I don’t know. Much of the mainstream media is not talking about it.
terryannonline on January 11, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Glad to see Rudy drop in numbers. I can semi-tolerate McCain.
BlackCapitalist on January 11, 2008 at 5:25 PM
Well my work here is done. I’m going to go have a beer. Night folks.
Wise Golden on January 11, 2008 at 5:25 PM
GREAT link! Too bad te debate moderators don’t use these to ask questions.
fred5678 on January 11, 2008 at 5:27 PM
I think I am going to throw up.
WTH is wrong with Republicans? Do they even know what being a Republican means?
Fred!
SimplyKimberly on January 11, 2008 at 5:28 PM
This is why the Republicans are the stupid party. Like Dole, Bush 41, et al. before him, it is now McCain’s “turn”.
If McVain wins the nomination, I’ll register independent the next day and vote that way in the general election.
Valiant on January 11, 2008 at 5:28 PM
That poll does not even pass the smell test.
Rasmussen (Fri) has it 22-20-9-20-11.
Juan Plantation Strawberries Whackjob Shamnesty McVain – 22
The High Reverend Huckster – 20
Rudy – 9
Mitt – 20
Fred – 11
MB4 on January 11, 2008 at 5:30 PM
For McCain, right?
Wise Golden on January 11, 2008 at 5:30 PM
Nope – just asking for a little law enforcement.
fred5678 on January 11, 2008 at 5:30 PM
My operating theory is that it reflects whichever bar the pollsters last stumbled out of.
MB4 on January 11, 2008 at 5:32 PM
Wow. Wise Golden brings us more of that fun and love from the Huckabee camp. Anybody opposed to amnesty belongs to the KKK.
Feel the fun, Republican Shi’ites! Feel the moderation. See, it’s us whacked out extreme conservatives who say negative, horrible things about others in the GOP.
funky chicken on January 11, 2008 at 5:32 PM
No
Your Jewish Master on January 11, 2008 at 5:33 PM
I challenge every support of McVain who reads this post to read this column by Andrew McCarthy, and this one by Mark Levin.
The man is in the wrong party and is not even close to being a conservative. Ergo, if you support McVain, you’re not a conservative either. And if the Republican party nominates him, it’s no longer a conservative party.
thirteen28 on January 11, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Im in Ohio so thank you early states for taking my vote away from me in the primaries
William Amos on January 11, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Don’t let the door his you in the a$$ you F8cktard.
omnipotent on January 11, 2008 at 5:34 PM
I’m in a bad dream, right?
The one teeny tiny joy in this would be watching him suffer in the general. And then…cryostasis until 2012.
TexasDan on January 11, 2008 at 5:34 PM
supportER, dammit.
thirteen28 on January 11, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Huckabee would get his butt kicked by Hillary or Obama. At least McCain gives Republicans a chance.
SoulGlo on January 11, 2008 at 5:34 PM
Whoa, no worries. Johnny Mac wouldn’t put the Huckster on his ticket for all the tea in China. Remember he was taken down by the evangies playing the Jesus card for GW Bush in 2000. And he was the one who joined Romney in filing complaints against the anti-Mormon push polls. I think McCain complained first, as a matter of fact, because of what those same folks did to him in 2000.
Go Fred! polls don’t mean much yet, especially the national polls.
funky chicken on January 11, 2008 at 5:36 PM
Id rather vote for Fred. That said I would support McCain because he has worn the uniform and does care about protecting the US.
At least he doesnt veiw patriotism as having his sons work on his political campaign
William Amos on January 11, 2008 at 5:36 PM
Dude. I heard that.
Wise Golden on January 11, 2008 at 5:36 PM
At what, losing horribly to a young black Democrat?
omnipotent on January 11, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Tsk. Tsk. But I feel your pain. Ask me for a note if you get banned.
fred5678 on January 11, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Remember when Rudy was running away with it?
Then it was Mitt?
Then it was Huck?
Then….
All this prognostication seems to be useless, and nothing more than the media trying to fill air time. The only constant to keep in mind is that things change.
snickelfritz on January 11, 2008 at 5:37 PM
Two words:
tut tut
;)
yo on January 11, 2008 at 5:38 PM
McCain would have one angry psychopathic rant and that would be the end of him in the general.
davenp35 on January 11, 2008 at 5:39 PM
…to be responsible for amnesty and the permanent Democratic majority. Who says Americans don’t get irony?
TexasDan on January 11, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Thanks, but that’s nothing compared to CSD’s past rantings (he’s nicer now though, not sure why).
omnipotent on January 11, 2008 at 5:39 PM
You don’t know that. We could just as easily loose to an old woman.
Wise Golden on January 11, 2008 at 5:39 PM
Alright…not Huck, but is McCain really that bad? Remember…this is for President, so he won’t be pulling any McCain/Feingold stuff. His position on the war, et al is right on.
Heck, I liked McCain back in 2000 over Dubya by far. And at least he’s proven he can work with the Dems…and the Dems are much less likely to bash a guy they’ve come to work with so well.
JetBoy on January 11, 2008 at 5:40 PM
I will not vote for a liberal republican for president. There is no way to change the status quo if conservatives keep voting for people just because they have an R behind their name. Things are getting worse in this country, adapting more leftist policies, and it’s because the leadership of the national republican party is filled with career politicians who only care about getting elected. No different then the democrats.
peacenprosperity on January 11, 2008 at 5:40 PM
When you paint with such a broad brush you risk getting paint all over yourself….
omnipotent on January 11, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Grow up.
Here’s some info on your paragon of purity.
Your holier-than-thou rhetoric doesn’t bother me, but I can see the writing on the wall for your candidate in the general, when the media uncorks the bottle full of Huckabee’s $1,000 watches, $80,000 unreported contributions, 14 investiations, 3 censures, and two fines by the Arkansas state’s ethics committee, and stolen governor’s mansion furnishings.
But all you care about is stopping the “gay lobby”, right? While I’m at my Klan meeting, will you be fire-bombing a gay nightclub? Look at the circles you travel in.
joewm315 on January 11, 2008 at 5:40 PM
davenp35, then get your man Mitt to take him down. Enough of the calls for Fred! to go after the Huckster and McCain all on his own.
I thought Mitt was the one who really wanted this job?
funky chicken on January 11, 2008 at 5:41 PM
I’d rather have Hussein than Rodham.
(I can’t believe I even typed that….ouch)
omnipotent on January 11, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Unfortunately, protecting our country also includes protecting us from foreign invasion – across our southern border. And McCain fails miserably on that.
How can Hunter, a Vietnam Vet (ranger and airborne), with a son in Iraq AND Afghanistan, get so little support from this country?
fred5678 on January 11, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Nope — no plans to do that.
Wise Golden on January 11, 2008 at 5:42 PM
And the grand game of Republican candidate Whack-a-Mole continues! One rises to the top, and one or more factions of the party work frantically to whack him down. The next one rises, and he gets whacked down. It’s just a matter of who rises up too late to be whacked down at this point. Whoever that is will win it by default.
aero on January 11, 2008 at 5:43 PM
Well, by all means, lets all us Republicans make sure we’re giving the Dems what they like.
Good stratergy
Editor on January 11, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Here’s a better link for you, Wise Golden, on Mike Huckabee’s ties to a group that supports corporal punishment for gays and believes in Old Testament law replacing or overruling the Constitution.
joewm315 on January 11, 2008 at 5:44 PM
Novocaine 08! And plenty of it.
Nosferightu on January 11, 2008 at 5:44 PM
No, no, no, no, no.
No RINOs!!!
eucher on January 11, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Microbrew beer stocks on the rise…
Entelechy on January 11, 2008 at 5:45 PM
Absolutely. As Sun Tzu said, “if your enemy is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him.” We all know that McVain is of choleric temper. And if McVain’s Republican primary opponents won’t attempt to exploit that weakness, you can safely bet your last dollar that the Democrats will do everything they can to exploit that weakness. He’d be one quick-triggered mental meltdown away from being slaughtered in the general.
Or more succinctly, in addition to not being conservative, he’s not electable, despite the so-called conventional wisdom to the contrary.
thirteen28 on January 11, 2008 at 5:46 PM
There. Fixed it for you.
fred5678 on January 11, 2008 at 5:46 PM
I said Fred should have gone after McCain too because I question the motivation behind his decision not to.
davenp35 on January 11, 2008 at 5:46 PM
I agree Hunter should have been more viable. But we are seeing the conservative coalition fracture. Im more moderate in social stances but fiercely pro american in foreign policy (guess that makes me a neo con)
If the party fragments I will be standing against the social cons
William Amos on January 11, 2008 at 5:46 PM
Hey! I just realized that in the Whack-a-Mole game, we’ve whacked Rudy, Mitt, and Huckabee out of the top spot in national polls so far. Now we’re working on whacking McCain. When we do that, the only one left to stick his head up is Fred! Maybe he’ll be the last man standing!
A girl can dream.
aero on January 11, 2008 at 5:47 PM
Should have been WONT stand with them
William Amos on January 11, 2008 at 5:47 PM
I’d shoot off my own foot before I’d vote for either one of those amnesty-loving, holier-than-thou hypocrites Huckabee or McCain.
AZCoyote on January 11, 2008 at 5:48 PM
This reminds me of 1999/2000. It looked like McCain could be the nominee early then too. I supported him then actually. But it all came crashing down in February/March 2000, and the religious “compassionate” conservatives chose GW Bush. I fully expect the McCain boomlet to be just that–a boomlet.
That said, he wouldn’t be nearly as bad as the Huckster. I hate his amnesty position and don’t care for a lot of other stuff he’s done…however, his record on federal spending is excellent. He took over the pork reporting from Goldwater and has been merciless on that front…porkbusting before porkbusting was cool. As runaway government spending is a huge problem, McCain would get my vote if he were the nominee.
McCain would also be willing to rebuild the military.
That’s all he’s got, but it’s a hell of a lot more than Hillary! or Obama.
funky chicken on January 11, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Ditto.
davenp35 on January 11, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Looks like McCain is trying to swallow some grenade pins.
menoname on January 11, 2008 at 5:49 PM
Wise Golden,
You’re the first Huck supporter I’ve seen posting here (Admittedly, I do not read the comments as much as I should).
Let me just say that I’m not impressed.
Now I must go meet my fellow Knights in the white hoods.
bert169 on January 11, 2008 at 5:50 PM
All we would need is a Republican Congress first.
Nosferightu on January 11, 2008 at 5:50 PM
Virtually no name recognition. When, really, in at least the last 4 years, has Duncan Hunter been the subject of anything in the media?
JetBoy on January 11, 2008 at 5:50 PM
I would love to see a Thompson/Hunter ticket, maybe with a Romney in there someplace or other if we need him. I simply cannot stomach shamnesty under any name.
fred5678 on January 11, 2008 at 5:51 PM
One final nail in the coffin of the credibility of “religious conservative leaders” like James Dobson was his failure to support Duncan Hunter early on. If people like Dobson had gotten on board with Hunter and promoted him as the clear conservative choice, the Huckster wouldn’t have been able to take off. Dobson’s more interested in being popular and appearing powerful than doing the right thing for the country.
funky chicken on January 11, 2008 at 5:51 PM
I doubt that McCain would choose Hucky as his running mate and vice versa. They know they would have to pick a more conservative personna than they…which wouldn’t be hard to do. A conservative woman would be nice if we have to endure either of them at the top of the ticket. Perhaps the governor of Alaska? (I think most guys on here will find her hotter than Shrillary if nothing else).
SouthernGent on January 11, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Has anyone ever gone directly from the House to the Presidency?
Nosferightu on January 11, 2008 at 5:52 PM
If McCain gets the nod, this nation will cease to exist.
madmonkphotog on January 11, 2008 at 5:52 PM
Am I a party pooper if I say that PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEES dont get selected by public opinion polls, that tend to change week to week,
they get selected by DELEGATES TO A CONVENTION.
So why dont we focus more on DELEGATE COUNTS in the coming few weeks and less on OPINION POLLS.
What say…
Always Right on January 11, 2008 at 5:52 PM
My point exactly. Shame on the ignorant electorate, who are swayed by pop culture.
fred5678 on January 11, 2008 at 5:53 PM
Does anyone know if Huck’s brand name is any of these?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Council_of_Churches#Member_denominations_.28February_2007.29
a capella on January 11, 2008 at 5:54 PM
Fortunately this is not over, by far. It is the most unusual year, though, and enough to start drinking, if not already there.
Entelechy on January 11, 2008 at 5:54 PM
This is going to get me lots of grief, but most pastors are not fiscal conservatives, especially when it comes time to pass the collection plate. They want your money now and expect you to pray for that financial blessing from god. It’s very much the same as the democrats taxing us now, and telling us to wait for the government to fix our problems. Neither scenario ever happens, though!
SouthernGent on January 11, 2008 at 5:55 PM
Uh, yeah. Sure he does. Do they ever let you go outside, or do you have to pretty much hang out in the central TV lounge area?
Wise Golden on January 11, 2008 at 5:55 PM
I will vote 3rd party if McCain is nominated. He has done more damage to the conservative movement of America (from WITHIN the party) than anyone else I know.
HYTEAndy on January 11, 2008 at 5:55 PM
A fundraiser at the home of a member of such a group is a pretty close connection.
joewm315 on January 11, 2008 at 5:56 PM
Build McVain a fire and he will be toasty for a night, set McVain on fire and he will be toast for the rest of his life.
- SunTzu’s Nephew
MB4 on January 11, 2008 at 5:56 PM
This too shall pass.
AUINSC on January 11, 2008 at 5:58 PM
Stop. Your scaring us.
Wise Golden on January 11, 2008 at 5:58 PM
A guy can dream, too – Jeri Thompson, Jeri Ryan, …
fred5678 on January 11, 2008 at 5:58 PM
With him it would really need rebuilding.
When McVain was asked if it would be OK to be in Iraq for fifty years, he said make it a hundred.
MB4 on January 11, 2008 at 6:00 PM
What, 70% of Americans are klan members? You have a very negative opinion of this country. Where you from?
jaime on January 11, 2008 at 6:00 PM
One of McCain’s sons enlisted, right?
funky chicken on January 11, 2008 at 6:01 PM
I could grudingly support McCain in the general, mainly due to the war. Also he’s not quite a socialist. But why has it come to this?
phronesis on January 11, 2008 at 6:01 PM
Stay Classy Huckster.
Very adult of you, Minister.
omnipotent on January 11, 2008 at 6:03 PM
I’d say that if you believe that 70% of Americans were oposed to that legislation, then it’s you that have a low opinion of Americans. I don’t buy that stat for one minute.
Wise Golden on January 11, 2008 at 6:04 PM
MB4 on January 11, 2008 at 6:04 PM
I only have theories, unsupported by links or documentation… but it seems that Republicans have bought the media’s line that we can’t win without softening our views. George Bush was a start: spending has skyrocketed during his tenure, and he felt the need to contrast his politics with ours as “compassionate”, buying in to the public perceptions that conservatives are hateful people.
We’ll see how it plays out. Maybe a loss this year is what we need to get back to the Right.
joewm315 on January 11, 2008 at 6:05 PM
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