Really? Where was all that chaos! before Roe v. Wade, when the decision was left up to the states where it belongs?

The Constitution doesn’t exist so you or the liberals can use it to set social engineering policy. Overthrow Roe v. Wade? Absolutely. It’s bad law, sets a worse precedent, and the worst example of the SCOTUS overreaching their authority. A Human Life Amendment? Nope, you lost me there. Sorry. That’s not what the Constitution is for. If you live in my state, I will work with you to put as many restrictions on abortion as possible. But I won’t support a HLA any more than I would (or did) the ERA, and for exactly the same reasons.

The “chaos” references letting each state decide when life begins and when it doesn’t. The implications for that are far-reaching and scary; if life doesn’t begin at conception, when does it? Is killing a toddler murder, or a “right”? What precisely is murder? If one appreciates the sanctity of life, there is no other option than to have a law proclaiming life begins at conception (which follows, by the way, both “family values” and “Christian leadership” – and is one of the reasons I liked Ron Paul’s congress career).

he doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude to go after McCain

But the video here shows Fred criticizing J-Mac’s support of the “amnesty” bill!

Leaving it up to the states would create chaos!

Really? Where was all that chaos! before Roe v. Wade, when the decision was left up to the states where it belongs?

The Constitution doesn’t exist so you or the liberals can use it to set social engineering policy. Overthrow Roe v. Wade? Absolutely. It’s bad law, sets a worse precedent, and the worst example of the SCOTUS overreaching their authority. A Human Life Amendment? Nope, you lost me there. Sorry. That’s not what the Constitution is for. If you live in my state, I will work with you to put as many restrictions on abortion as possible. But I won’t support a HLA any more than I would (or did) the ERA, and for exactly the same reasons.

I’m sorry Fredheads,
I admire your tenacious support and I can see why.

But this is what it has come too.

Fred waited too long….

That is weak man.
If you can see why he gets tenacious support then get behind him! Don’t mindlessly vote for the lesser candidate for this.

My biggest fear now is McSchamnesty picks Huckabee as the stooge vice-pres.

The two least desirable nominees on a team… yuck!!!

McCain will betray us again if we let him…. by reaching across the aisle and compromising.

Fred has greatly disappointed us with his laziness.

SORRY!!!!!

Mcguyver on January 10, 2008 at 11:54 PM

Then vote for Fred!
He is not lazy. This is just frustrating and infuriating at the same time.

I won’t pee in the Fredheads’ Cheerios

AP, this is uncalled for from someone who supposedly is so protective of attacks on MM.

In reality, I don’t think there is any faction of the republican party who wouldn’t feel ok about voting for Fred in a general. That IMO tells me he can win.

Polls will tell us otherwise, because people are sometimes afraid to admit what they really think. Because in the upcoming election, they will be called anti-female, or anti-black if they say they aren’t for Barack or Hillary.

But when that curtain is pulled, they will know what to do.

Charles Manson has a better chance of getting out of prison than Fred does of winning the nomination. lol

froghat on January 10, 2008 at 11:56 PM

If Huckabee was in charge, that would be pretty good odds…

The truth is, that almost all of the men running for the Republican nomination should be running as Democrats (God knows the Democratic party could use a McCain or Rudy in their ranks) not Republicans.

I read a quote some years back about democracy:

“Saying that democracy is the best form of government is nearly as great an understatement as saying that the Pacific Ocean holds more water than any tin cup you’ve ever seen. The issues are so clear, the truth so solidly anchored, that I have no patience with people who think that there’s even anything to argue about.
“Someone once said to me, ‘Sometimes the people are lazy and stupid, and make poor decisions. It sometimes takes a strong leader to protect them and choose the right course.’
“So a nation of stupid and lazy people, because of a strong, intelligent leader, is saved from its own sloth and folly? Where is the justice in that?
“Democracy isn’t just the best form of government; it’s the only one even remotely worth a damn. Only democracy guarantees that people get what they deserve.
“

A second focus group segment airing on Fox right now has people applauding Fred but saying … it’s too late.

/sticking fingers in ears
Dadadadadadadadaadddaadad… I can’t hear you…

Go Fred!

LOL!

Update: So who won? Dean Barnett e-mails to say Huckabee.

Dean Barnett is articulate and he is a fool.

Verdict: McCain wins, for exactly the reason I gave here. Michael Graham sees it too.

If McVain wins and their is no attractive third party candidate I will be voting for the dim candidate even if they were to nominate Dennis “UFO” Kucinich.

Update: The boss sees it, too. “He doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude to go after John McCain.”

If I was Fred, I wouldn’t attack McCain just yet. I would try to narrow the field down more before I debated McCain–and before I challenged him. I wouldn’t ever attack him, except on McCain’s shamnesty support.

But to attack a friend and a bonafide war hero (I would salute McCain if I had ever earned that privilge)…no I wouldn’t attack him. I would debate him. But only after Huck, Paul and at least one more candidate leaves the field.

More and more I would love to see a McCain/Thompson ticket. EEither man in either position, P/VP.

Folks, just because the current thought is “politics is dirty” doesn’t mean that we, or politicians, cannot do otherwise and play nice.

Save the attacks for our true enemies. Islamic Fundementalists, TPS Cover Sheet Managers, and Hillary.

If Fred falls out the foreign policy conservaties go to McCain. If Mitt falls out the religeous conservaties go to Huck.

So Fred staying in keeps McCain down and Mitt staying in keeps Huck down. I hope mitt wins in Michigan and Fred in South Carolina we we get McCain and Huck out of the race.

Then will be between Fred and Mitt and that is a match up I could live with.

Be Ready! Fred is going to win South Carolina and win big!

Analyze the man, not the campaign. In our hearts, we know who is right for the job and who will do right by us. But our minds tell us to vote for who is most electable.

No, I didn’t misread your post, I just disagree with you. It isn’t our minds that are the problem; it’s idiot officials who decide to listen to what the MSM says, or what the opposition says, and base their “opinions” and nominees on it (they vote on feeling, on emotion, on whether they feel the candidates will “appeal” to non-GOP voters and “connect” with them). Our minds recognize the guy for the job; our feelings and our fear of losing (which is totally irrational, by the way) are what keep us from succeeding.

Analyze the man, not the campaign. In our hearts, we know who is right for the job and who will do right by us. But our minds tell us to vote for who is most electable.