Open thread: The “Fred’s and Mitt’s last chance” debate!

posted at 7:54 pm on January 10, 2008 by Allahpundit

9 p.m. ET on Fox News from Myrtle Beach, SC. The anticipation over Ron Paul’s impending immolation has deflated a bit thanks to his CNN appearance, but only a bit: Kudos to Wolf Blitzer for tossing him softballs so that Wallace can put the screws to him in primetime. Tonight’s the last spin of the wheel for Fred and Romney, needless to say. With McCain and Huck in front of him, Fred’s going RINO-hunting; expect him to hammer the “true conservative” meme to the point of desperation. Mitt’s task is tough given the fact that Michigan is the must-win for him now, not SC. That means less Carolina social-con red meat about values and the war and more Detroit red meat about economic recovery. Something to chew on while you watch — even if one of them dropped out and could somehow cede all his votes to the other, that would still only put the survivor one point ahead of Captain Amnesty. How did we get to this point?

Also needless to say, count on lots of surge anniversary talk from McCain and some “culture of life” red meat from Huck. While you wait, enjoy the latest on Bloomberg’s already insufferable flirtation with his messianic nonpartisan presidential run. He’s Mitt Romney minus the looks, charisma (really), and conservative values, plus a few extra plutocratic billion in the bank. Where do I sign up?

Two videos for you, too. The first is McCain’s primary strategy — from last month. His guys may not have money but they know what they’re doing. The second is … unfortunate.

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virgins they’re looking forward to seeing

Brilliant!

yo on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Fred scores again with the virgins!

Way to go, Fred — and he’s not even my guy.

Christoph on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

This dude is clueless on FP.

Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

freds gonna get lambasted fer that comment too bad it was funny

WastelandMan on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

So wait… if Fred wins… then Mitt wins?

Micheal on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Rudy did exactly that in NYC when he banned firearm ownership to provide security.

Rudy did not ban firearm ownership in NYC.

LagunaDave on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Fred shoots and scores again
“i got your virgins right here iran “

Mojack420 on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Great line Virgins!

Fred!

RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Fred Thompson’s “intoduced to the virgins” line.

Classic.

Hawkins1701 on January 10, 2008 at 9:37 PM

*introduced

Hawkins1701 on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

I want to buy the people who coached Fred! for tonight’s debate tonight a beer.

Send ‘em to their virgins.

Fred!

SimplyKimberly on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

You are the MAN Fred

spacekicker on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

should have blown them out of the water

jpsc1 on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

“They’re going to be destroyed”

Money.

John_Locke on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Is the web stream slightly delayed? I’m seeing comments on the virgins before he said it….

darii on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Didn’t Congress declare the IRG as a terrorist organization?

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Fred: One more step and they would have been introduced to the virgins they are looking forward to.

GO FRED!

Timothy S. Carlson on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Agreed… lol Fred

Ugly on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Fred sounds more threatening in his matter of fact delivery than Huckabee does trying to sound tough.

Graybark on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

FRED!
Intro those bastard terrorists to those virgins up in teh sky!

maverick muse on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

“If they cross the line, they’re going to be destroyed.”

Didn’t Reagan prove that rule once with regard to the IRGC Navy?

unamused on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

classic

Micheal on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

“Gates of Hell”

Tough talk. Sounded kind of “arrogant.”

baldilocks on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

C’mon rudy, tie it in with 9/11

RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

WHO HATES TERRORISTS THE MOSTEST??????????
The SC Debates

malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Rudy slams the NIE … nice.

yo on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

LOL FRED! Advantage: Thompson.

NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

Fred is doing well with the memorable lines tonight. Everyone else is yawn.

salmonczar on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

Damn Fred, where you been these last months? SC get behind this guy!

Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

PLEASE Vote for Fred in SC!!! PLEASE!!!!

MsUnderestimated on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

Guillini is dry…. and hard to spell

Micheal on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

Round one to Fred. Anyone disagree?
STRONGLY AGREE!

kcd on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

Fred’s stealing Huck votes…

Vizzini on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

Now if Fred starts quoting Drowning Pool, I’m in for $50 more.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

Rudy – ZzzzZZzZzzzz

Timothy S. Carlson on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

Fred’s doing Ok.

mustang1 on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

Shuckster: Will pay for the gates of hell comment

NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

Fred i fear is too late but hes playing to his audience

WastelandMan on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

Doh…………Fred just won…Another few steps and they would have been introduced to those virgins they are looking forward to…

doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

FYI. Here is a FoxNews Live Stream that should play directly in Windows Media Player.

synycalwon on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

Rudy sounds like a frayed audiotape.

fiatboomer on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

“Gates of Hell”

Tough talk. Sounded kind of “arrogant.”

baldilocks on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

LOL….!

malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

Is Brit Hume reading this comment thread right now?

unamused on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

Well, That was interesting. I just now got a call from a polling organization. She lost interest in asking me any more questions when she found out that I was a strong conservative, of middle age who never missed voting in any election.

LegendHasIt on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

oops sorry for the double post

baldilocks on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

This is a stupid question.

What are they going to say, yes I would have blown em to hell?

That will help really.

John_Locke on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

They come back to McCain ….

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

yo on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

“If they cross the line, they’re going to be destroyed.”

Didn’t Reagan prove that rule once with regard to the IRGC Navy?

unamused on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

I know he did with the Libyans.

ReubenJCogburn on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

BE FRISKY AT YOUR OWN RISK.
FRED WILL NOT MISS!

maverick muse on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

I agree with McCain. I’m glad no one’s taking the bait.

Vizzini on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

maverick snooze

Talon on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

darii on January 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM

Yes, runs a couple minutes behind.

Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Rudy – ZzzzZZzZzzzz

Timothy S. Carlson on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

Again like Tickleddragon said buzzwordbuzzwordbuzzword

NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

maverick muse on January 10, 2008 at 9:36 PM

thanks for the answer

Mojack420 on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

McCain. Spin. Meh.

wccawa on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Let’s not turn this thread into one big Fred spam session.

malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

isn’t McCain in favor of the sea treaty?

Reaganliveson on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

I cant concentrate on Mc vain I know Im biased but I am falling a sleep

WastelandMan on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

zzzzzzzzzz

Micheal on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Nice touch for Rudy to mention the NIE.

SouthernGent on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

WHO HATES TERRORISTS THE MOSTEST??????????

WHO LOVES THE CAPTAINS ON THE GROUND THE MOSTEST????????

salmonczar on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Rudy doesn’t speak as well as Fred tonight.

maverick muse on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Is McCain’s jaws growing bigger?

RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

McCain is like a stage-version of Weekend At Bernies.

Oh, and he just spoke for about 60 seconds WITHOUT answering Brit’s question.

unamused on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

McLame is speaking….someone wake me up. He’s sounding like a doddering old fool.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

McCain talking about the Barbary Pirates? I didn’t know he was THAT old!

mustang1 on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

MCain is a windbag. Huck is a douche bag.

stenwin77 on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

McCain’s answer is no answer

Ugly on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Now if Fred starts quoting Drowning Pool, I’m in for $50 more.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 10, 2008 at 9:39 PM

HA! That would be 8 kinds of awesome. At least.

ReubenJCogburn on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

McCain – go take your nap grandpa

Timothy S. Carlson on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Let’s not turn this thread into one big Fred spam session.

malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Oh come on, he’s finally alive, let us enjoy our momentary bliss

John_Locke on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

McCain had the best answer of any of them on this one, whatever his faults. Of course, he was expecting this question.

fiatboomer on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Mclame stinks!

Reaganliveson on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Jaws grow from straight talking

Micheal on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Paul, send in the blimps!

RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Rudy and McCain don’t believe the NIE on Iran. Where were they when it was all in the news?

NellE on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

I know what will be the opening of Saturday night live,
satire of the debate,and I haven’t watched it in over five
years!

canopfor on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Hmmm MItts getting ignored maybe he was right to pull oughta SC

WastelandMan on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Dude! Someone nodge grandpa .. he’s stuck.

yo on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Not a bad answer from McShamnesty, for once

NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

GULF OF TONKIN!!!

DRINK!!!

Talon on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

GULF OF TONKIN!!! it was only a matter of time…..

heatherrc77 on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Rudy doesn’t speak as well as Fred tonight.

maverick muse on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Fred has to do, essentially, the best debate of his life tonight.

amerpundit on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

rp is an idiot

Mojack420 on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

OMG…Paul does the Rosie! Gulf of Tonkin! LMAO

SouthernGent on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

GULF OF TONKIN!?

Shut up!

Keljeck on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

There we are, Gulf of Tonkin!

Big Orange on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

McCain’s has a slightly odd posture, arms apart, head tilting to the right. He looks anamatronic.

darii on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

I’m no McCain fan, but he is the only one who would have an inkling of the decisions made by those captains.

baldilocks on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Let’s not turn this thread into one big Fred spam session.

malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 PM

Go away then……

doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Paul…Gulf of Tonkin, goofball.

AUINSC on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

Paul would hide under the bed. Anybody surprised by the Gulf of Tonkin reference?

ReubenJCogburn on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

THERE IT WAS! Gulf of Tolkin!

yo on January 10, 2008 at 9:41 PM

these guys are so much better than the dems.

tomas on January 10, 2008 at 9:42 PM

Bash Rudy and McCain when they deserve to be bashed.

phronesis on January 10, 2008 at 9:42 PM

what the hell’s paul talkin bout…WWIII?

bojack on January 10, 2008 at 9:42 PM

Yeah, yeah, RP, stick your head in the sand.

P. James Moriarty on January 10, 2008 at 9:42 PM

I hope you guys are recording this. I have a feeling Fred is going to walk over and suplex Paul.

This man is such a d00sh.

unamused on January 10, 2008 at 9:42 PM

RP speaks…..”I’ll take the navy to DisneyLand”.

I think JohnnieMac wants to punch him.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 10, 2008 at 9:42 PM

WaaantWaantWaaantWaantWaaantWaantWaaantWaantWaaantWaantWaaantWaant

Hey, it’s charlie brown’s teacher!

tickleddragon on January 10, 2008 at 9:42 PM

AHHHHHH – RP invoked Tonkin!

What about the Cole, RP?

Timothy S. Carlson on January 10, 2008 at 9:42 PM

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