Open thread: The “Fred’s and Mitt’s last chance” debate!
posted at 7:54 pm on January 10, 2008 by Allahpundit
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9 p.m. ET on Fox News from Myrtle Beach, SC. The anticipation over Ron Paul’s impending immolation has deflated a bit thanks to his CNN appearance, but only a bit: Kudos to Wolf Blitzer for tossing him softballs so that Wallace can put the screws to him in primetime. Tonight’s the last spin of the wheel for Fred and Romney, needless to say. With McCain and Huck in front of him, Fred’s going RINO-hunting; expect him to hammer the “true conservative” meme to the point of desperation. Mitt’s task is tough given the fact that Michigan is the must-win for him now, not SC. That means less Carolina social-con red meat about values and the war and more Detroit red meat about economic recovery. Something to chew on while you watch — even if one of them dropped out and could somehow cede all his votes to the other, that would still only put the survivor one point ahead of Captain Amnesty. How did we get to this point?
Also needless to say, count on lots of surge anniversary talk from McCain and some “culture of life” red meat from Huck. While you wait, enjoy the latest on Bloomberg’s already insufferable flirtation with his messianic nonpartisan presidential run. He’s Mitt Romney minus the looks, charisma (really), and conservative values, plus a few extra plutocratic billion in the bank. Where do I sign up?
Two videos for you, too. The first is McCain’s primary strategy — from last month. His guys may not have money but they know what they’re doing. The second is … unfortunate.
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MsUnderestimated on January 10, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Gosh I wish I coulda seen that. (*turning green*)
tickleddragon on January 10, 2008 at 11:12 PM
lol good one
Mojack420 on January 10, 2008 at 11:12 PM
C’mon BKennedy, you know you want to get on the Fred train.
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 11:12 PM
He’s the Director of Comment Moderation for the Daily Kos.
/sarc
fiatboomer on January 10, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Huck arguing for terrorist Constitutional rights via transfer to American soil. Apparently he didn’t learn from Fred’s smackdown.
kc2ige on January 10, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Your attempt at resoning is completely uncoordinated.
MB4 on January 10, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Yes Huck, keep talking, Fred is taking notes.
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Huck is totally delusional.
tickleddragon on January 10, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Open thread: The “Fred’s and Mitt’s last chance” debate!
posted at 7:54 pm on January 10, 2008 by Allahpundit
Connie on January 10, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Dude 527’s aren’t dragging family into it, if the family is the one coming out to complain about the death of a family member.
Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Haha thanks for the inside info.
carbon_footprint on January 10, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Ugh. Go away, Huck. Start a motivational speaker gig….
Just. Go . Away .
silverfox on January 10, 2008 at 11:14 PM
fiatboomer on January 10, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Connie on January 10, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Huckster totally skeeves me with his squirming and tapdancing over the Dumond situation. He obviously thinks its all about him.
ReubenJCogburn on January 10, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Allahpundit.
Newbie, meet your HotAir God.
tickleddragon on January 10, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Colms is going to expose Huck as a liberal, they know their own.
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Tell it walkin, Huck… You let MURDERERS walk.
tickleddragon on January 10, 2008 at 11:16 PM
(pbuh).
Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Oh. Huck’s a badass cuz he let an execution happen.
Just call him Dirty Harry Huck.
silverfox on January 10, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Well, we can point to your bills Huck, and they ain’t good.
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Huck a Reagan guy: Yeah boy. His nose will be longer than Pinochio before the interview.
Shame on you Huck
He just said Reagan would be a liberal now.
Go ahead Huck, dig that hole!
Big Orange on January 10, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Just think of Chuck Norris on steroids.
With brass malkins
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Gawd, listen to the Huckster whine.
P. James Moriarty on January 10, 2008 at 11:17 PM
…the majority that lived there were drug dealers, gang members, and pedophiles…They deserved the ’scare.’
MsUnderestimated on January 10, 2008 at 11:17 PM
$552K
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 11:17 PM
The sad thing is that immigration enforcement is so horrible in Charlotte that most illegals don’t even try anymore. Sue Myrick tried to fight for more INS here, but keeps getting ignored. I wouldn’t mind so much if we were talking about people that were here to support families and the such, but the illegals in our are are mostly in MS-13 or some other illegal activity. We had a high school student in our area that had been killed on the interstate by a wrong way driver. He had been deported TWICE. Check out this article.
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Just sent $100 Fred’s way… up to $552,669. (I know it’s not a lot, but it’s the most I’ve felt a candidate deserved my money…)
MsUnderestimated on January 10, 2008 at 11:19 PM
1925 comments! wow!
Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate!
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 11:19 PM
The problem with Fred is his horrible campaign. He’d probably be the frontrunner if he could pull off things like Mitt’s $5 mil phone drive.
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 11:21 PM
You know you didn’t need to quantify that for me. I think if they’re here illegally, they deserve the scare.
tickleddragon on January 10, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Hey!
I’m in Austin too!
I must say, I have never donated to a candidate before, but Fred’s gettin’ my money!
MITX on January 10, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Huck needs to take a Current Issues in World Politics class. But I’m just a Shiite Republican.
Shay on January 10, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Whole lotta comments tonight!
Vizzini on January 10, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Good job! you are a great american.
It is a lot easier if you just send 25 bux a weeks. it ads up. I am up to about 800 bux.
This is our country we are talking about, after all.
Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate!
Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate!
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Holy crap, George Carlin’s in Luntz’s focus group. ;)
fiatboomer on January 10, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Even worse, he’s Republican!!
tickleddragon on January 10, 2008 at 11:23 PM
And a great big bam hammer that would make Thor sob like a little girl…
doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 11:24 PM
yeeeeeeeeeeeea…. about the rap…. um… ya
Richard Bushnell on January 10, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Just trying to get the thread to 2000.
baldilocks on January 10, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Just think of Chuck Norris on steroids.
With brass malkins
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 11:17 PM
And a great big bam hammer that would make Thor sob like a little girl…
doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 11:24 PM
His hammer is the iPhone.
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 11:24 PM
I agree with you 150%, malan89. Almost 90% of our DUIs were illegal criminal aliens. They knew it wouldn’t matter because ICE wouldn’t come pick them up. The only time ICE came was when we had two rival bangers that had both shot & killed rival gang members, and then they were deported. Two months later, both bangers were back wreaking havoc on the city. I’m sick of them all… and sick of anchor babies. That should be outlawed.
MsUnderestimated on January 10, 2008 at 11:25 PM
You’re good kid, you’re real good!
Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate!
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 11:25 PM
We need to get an Austin group together.
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 11:25 PM
No newbie…His hammer is his authority to ban anyone who gets out of line…
doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 11:25 PM
Uh oh stupid Angie again.
The Ritz on January 10, 2008 at 11:26 PM
Well I didnt sleep at a Holiday Inn last night but I do play a musician on the interwebs…
doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 11:28 PM
I wish he’d use it on the PaulBots. Or maybe he did. That one guy kinda…went away. That’s why I was so worried when he opened up the comments–I was glad I got to get in on the discussion, but was worried that the PaulBots would take over.
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 11:28 PM
I’m glad these criticisms came out on Fred. Now he can address them face on.
Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Good Luck. I have some friends in Austin, they are Romney supporters. That is about as Conservative as you get in the in the only Texas town that is located in southern California.
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Both did very very well I thought
Tie for first place, though Fred has done so awful in the past that it seems like he was better than he was. Very good though
Richard Bushnell on January 10, 2008 at 11:28 PM
I have had a Fred08 sticker on my car for months. I am starting too see more and more.
I will convert Austin, TX
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Rumour has it he’s Castillian
He’s a reckless buccaneer
I hear he carries several whips
He’s a sultan from Kabul
with women at his fingertips
They say he’s nearly eight feet tall
And yet quite graceful……all in all
I’m told he waddles when he walks
And often twitches when he talks
Is he a dolt? He’s very deep!
Oh, Hotair’s losing sleep!
Who is Allahpundit?
Is he a hero or a monk, a fiddling Nero or a drunk
Who is Allahpundit?
I’m sure he’s flatulent and crass
Here, here, the man’s a horse’s ass
No, no, he’s neighborly and kind
But quite erotically inclined
Whatever guise he may employ,
He’s Hotair’s pride and joy
This plucky nonpareil
This lucky, bloody swell
Who is Allahpundit?
Percy on January 10, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Lol. We have to work that into the daily vernacular around here. SECOND LOOK AT DG’S WIT!
Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Okay friends…I’m off to bed. Everyone have a great evening!
tickleddragon on January 10, 2008 at 11:31 PM
US unleashes a massive air attack against Al Qaeda
SHOW ME THE FOOTAGE BABY!
The Ritz on January 10, 2008 at 11:31 PM
New Fred Thread who hoo!
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/10/debate-highlight-fred-takes-huck-to-the-woodshed/
Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate!
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 11:31 PM
From what I’ve heard, and I’ve never been there, Austin is pretty liberal. I guess you could say that about any urban area these days.
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Na…We have had a couple of Paultards here for at least a year, and other than their supporting Ron Paul they have actually been quite well behaved and respectful. If you dont have a score card you probably couldn’t tell them from other commentors here when the topic isn’t Ron Paul.
doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 11:32 PM
http://www.thesitrep.com/pres.htm
Hot air voters like Fred
Fred Thompson 61.4% 78
Mitt Romney 29.1% 37
Mike Huckabee 5.5% 7
Rudy Giuliani 2.4% 3
John McCain. 1.6% 2
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TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 11:32 PM
Austin is UBER Liberal. That is why I know all the supporters of Paul are libs, they are everywhere here. They will get ROn to go 3rd and then they will dump him for Hildabeast.
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Holy monster comments, Batman!…gonna break 2K!
There goes the price of advertising on HotAir….
JetBoy on January 10, 2008 at 11:34 PM
G’night, girl. If any scary trolls show up in your dream, let me know. I’ll beat them over the head with Madison.
wccawa on January 10, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Kirsten’s looking very fetching tonight, I will say. But was it just me, or on the commercial break did Suzanne Sena look like she wanted to get frisky? Rowrrr!
ReubenJCogburn on January 10, 2008 at 11:35 PM
My gawd, how can Kirsten Powers possibly be a Democrat?
fiatboomer on January 10, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Austin is indeed very liberal.
Actually, the ADULTS are conservative.
The libs are the loud, obnoxious whiners. When Bergstrom AFB shut down, we had an influx of California libs come in. They are bringing more with them!
*shudder*
We do need to get the Austin group together!
MITX on January 10, 2008 at 11:37 PM
‘Cause she knows I’m in the green room:)
Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 11:38 PM
No, Kirsten, we do not all care about global warming, and it should not be a platfomr of the GOP.
fourstringfuror on January 10, 2008 at 11:38 PM
While
we’reI’m on the subject, why doesn’t Fox just chuck Colmes and replace him with KP?fiatboomer on January 10, 2008 at 11:38 PM
OK, fess up, who were the two who voted for McShamnasty?
His mom and Vicente Fox?
MB4 on January 10, 2008 at 11:38 PM
People have begun to understand the issues which means they finally appreciate what Fred has been saying all along. His message hasn’t changed one iota but now all of a sudden “he” has become more passionate and “detailed”…yeah, rrright.
Only ONE candidate knows what’s going on in Washington and has the qualifications and experience needed to get things done correctly the FIRST time.
GO FRED!!!
Winghunter on January 10, 2008 at 11:38 PM
In Austin if you are conservative you are in the minority. Now, Paulbots are EVERYWHERE here. UBER liberal Austin now has all these conservative constitutionalists living in here that no one ever knew existed before? All these college and UT students are conservative Republicans?
Again, I think they will get Paul to run 3rd, then dump him in the election all the break up the conservative vote. I know a few conservatives who have been suckered into the delusion that Ron Paul is what he says he is and they will be left holding the bag.
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 11:39 PM
And I will hold her and comfort her while you are slaying those
dragonstrolls… ;pdoriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 11:39 PM
You, Mi Tejano Amigo are so right. You have The Ronulans number. I Live In Wrong Pauls District and I have some business aquantinces that print for Paul. They are all pot heads and love the guy.
Where in Austin do you live?
Anywhere near Lakeway?
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Hey, if you two can work that out, more power to you. She just does that little smile with a gleam in her eye really well. And she does a good job delivering the news, too–I’ve seen her have to scramble covering stories that broke in the middle of the night when she’s about the only one in the studio.
ReubenJCogburn on January 10, 2008 at 11:41 PM
If this field doesn’t straighten out, I’ll ask you for the name of that good beer soon…what a cycle!
Entelechy on January 10, 2008 at 11:42 PM
I see that MadisonC abandoned the foursome early :)
Entelechy on January 10, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Oh, you… you…
Damn beach clowns! I had to fight Madison, now you?
Naw… the heart ain’t it. We’re all friends. It’s all good.
(But watch for the frying pan across the skull one of these ddays!)
wccawa on January 10, 2008 at 11:43 PM
You’re here! You missed all the fun!
wccawa on January 10, 2008 at 11:43 PM
You would ask an artillery officer what a good beer is? Done you know those guys breath so much cordite that they cant taste anything? He wouldn’t know a good beer if he drowned in it…You need to ask somebody who would really know… ;)
doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Fred Thompson 62.4% 88
Mitt Romney 27.7% 39
Mike Huckabee 5.7% 8
Rudy Giuliani 2.8% 4
John McCain. 1.4% 2
total votes: 141
The peeps, they be likin’ Fred.
http://www.thesitrep.com/pres.htm
Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate!
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Please………..My mother is 1/4 Native American 1/2 Irish and 1/4 Scottish…Been there done that, got the flat spots on the back of my head to prove it…
doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Me? Is that aimed at me? (pun)
’cause I was Air Force. They didn’t give us artillery to play with. Well, not a whole lot, anyway. I was “special.”
wccawa on January 10, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Fred’s site has been hammered so hard that we have a simulated DNS situation..
Dang!
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 11:47 PM
I was here all along - you guys just missed my benign comments, compared to the clique. Hey, wccawa, do you feel older/more tired, a week after your b-day?
Entelechy on January 10, 2008 at 11:48 PM
Heh heh heh no that sniper shot was aimed at MB4…
doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Damn! Drink much?
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 11:49 PM
FOX News Headline at FOX News dot com:
“5 Ways to Get Her in Bed”
What. The. F@CK. How about “5 ways to catch some disease”.
MrC_5150 on January 10, 2008 at 11:50 PM
wccawa, that wasn’t aimed at you. Have you had too much beer/wine?
MB4 it was aimed at - and I trust what he likes. He’s discerning.
Entelechy on January 10, 2008 at 11:50 PM
I haven’t contributed to this thread yet, and thought I could help get it to 2,000.
Yay, Fred!
Darksean on January 10, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Well Fred, you better bring it!
Fred: “Oh, it’s already been broughted!”
That was such a smackdown. I bet Fred’s hand still hurts.
LickyLicky on January 10, 2008 at 11:50 PM
For those that missed it, I posted the entire debate to VEOH:
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v2685890ACfCskaz
Might take a few more minutes for it to become active, but the link works now.
LegendHasIt on January 10, 2008 at 11:51 PM
here go da dials.
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Maybe the Ronulans are swarming it as revenge for Fred stomping their Prophet. (Regardless of what the spammed phone poll results say.)
ReubenJCogburn on January 10, 2008 at 11:52 PM
I live in North Austin, around Austin Community College on Metric.
Note to Fred haters, I AM A GUN OWNER!
FRED!
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 11:53 PM
On Mitt’s site, there’s a statement from Sen. Jim DeMint that Romney won.
I think Fred won. He and Romney need to be our nominees, in whichever order.
HYTEAndy on January 10, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Fred won the debate, but almost exclusively because his scathing attack against Huckabee. THANK GOD someone finally takes the gloves off and exposes Huckabee in a forum like this. So kudos to Fred for going on the offensive.
I also think Mitt (when he got time) was again in a class of his own. His response on Pakistan/foreign policy was brilliant.
And does it even matter how much of a pretender and liberal Huckabee continues to be exposed as? His support isn’t exactly based on substance…
Patriot33 on January 10, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Dang, Fred’s ‘virgins’ comments caused Luntz’ Poll-O-Meter to jump off the chart.
And Paul’s caused it to crash into the basement. Lowest EVUH, according to Luntz. After tonight, the Truthers will be all he has left.
fiatboomer on January 10, 2008 at 11:55 PM
WRong Paul is off the chart! but the wrong way ha ha ha ha
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 11:55 PM
There are Lib Plants in the Focus group
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 11:55 PM
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