Open thread: The “Fred’s and Mitt’s last chance” debate!
posted at 7:54 pm on January 10, 2008 by Allahpundit
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9 p.m. ET on Fox News from Myrtle Beach, SC. The anticipation over Ron Paul’s impending immolation has deflated a bit thanks to his CNN appearance, but only a bit: Kudos to Wolf Blitzer for tossing him softballs so that Wallace can put the screws to him in primetime. Tonight’s the last spin of the wheel for Fred and Romney, needless to say. With McCain and Huck in front of him, Fred’s going RINO-hunting; expect him to hammer the “true conservative” meme to the point of desperation. Mitt’s task is tough given the fact that Michigan is the must-win for him now, not SC. That means less Carolina social-con red meat about values and the war and more Detroit red meat about economic recovery. Something to chew on while you watch — even if one of them dropped out and could somehow cede all his votes to the other, that would still only put the survivor one point ahead of Captain Amnesty. How did we get to this point?
Also needless to say, count on lots of surge anniversary talk from McCain and some “culture of life” red meat from Huck. While you wait, enjoy the latest on Bloomberg’s already insufferable flirtation with his messianic nonpartisan presidential run. He’s Mitt Romney minus the looks, charisma (really), and conservative values, plus a few extra plutocratic billion in the bank. Where do I sign up?
Two videos for you, too. The first is McCain’s primary strategy — from last month. His guys may not have money but they know what they’re doing. The second is … unfortunate.
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YIKES
On electability Mr. Paul: do you have any?
Wow. Just wow.
This is the kind of thing I would PAY to watch!
unamused on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Someone needs to wipe the remains of Ron Paul off the floor. Cameron just made “Predator 3″ with him.
fiatboomer on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Carl Cameron deserves a case!
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
second look at Don knotts
/SUPER SARC
WastelandMan on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Freds going to nail RP
Mojack420 on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
They gave him that one
ROFL>>>Do you have any credibility mr Paul? LOL!
NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
That answer will help Huckabee in SC…
LagunaDave on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
You’ve got to be kidding me ,ooh my freaggin ears,
Huckabee wants the little woman in the kitchen,
does he not fear the wrath of a scorned Republican
women!
canopfor on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Watching Paul justify his place. This is worth the price of admission.
Wineaholic on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
MORE COW BELL
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
The master of tangents is off and running again…..
P. James Moriarty on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
I choked when I heard that…
doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Get paul off the stage!!!
kcd on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Camaronis pwnd Paul.
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Ha, Paul makes a fun argument.
Vizzini on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Dear God, why is Fred not getting anything? For this to be his last chance, he needs to step it up
John_Locke on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Mr. Republican, Taft? WTF?? Modern history Ronnie.
He appeased the ‘Nuts.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
No Ron, we dont want you because you are CRAZY
NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
So what you’re saying Stormfront, is “No, I’m not viable. Thanks for reminding me.”
BKennedy on January 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
No, Ron Paul, we shouldn’t write you off because you are a strict constitutionalist…we should write you off because you are a LOON.
AUINSC on January 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
OK grandpa, can we just go back to eating thanksgiving dinner?
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
What’s going on here?…You’re looking like fool tonight Rupaul!
Reaganliveson on January 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Ron Paul is an idiot.
jpsc1 on January 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
How many Paul people did they let into the debate? LOL how many Paul people can there be in Myrtle Beach?!
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
You’re not unelectable because you’re (allegedly) a constitutionalist, you’re unelectable because you’re a loon.
ReubenJCogburn on January 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
The moderator’s penchant directing questions to Ron Paul is too much, really.
maverick muse on January 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Yes Ron Paul…You are right, everyone should write you off…
doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
No, you’re not less Republican.. just more nutty, buddy.
MsUnderestimated on January 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
No Paul, we don’t want to get rid of you because you are a Constitutionalist. We want to get rid of you because you are a whiny idiot. Being a Constitutionalist is your ONLY saving grace.
LegendHasIt on January 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
You know, Paul’s policies are outrageous; but he’s still a US Representative from the State of Texas and deserves a little more respect that he’s received from FOX and the other candidates tonight.
MrSteve on January 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Taft? NATO?
Did I miss a memo?
wccawa on January 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Precisely.
tickleddragon on January 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Immigration is next peeps!!!!!!!!! Lock and load!!!
Reaganliveson on January 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
There was no way he couldn’t knock that out of the park. They definitely gave him that one.
darii on January 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
I saw the commentator hesitate and smile and knew something funky was about to come out so I braced myself and just cracked up!
broker1 on January 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM
someone point out to paul that National Security is a Civil Liberty
jp on January 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Community dead
sunny on January 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM
RP - NOT
/eoc (end of campaign)
Timothy S. Carlson on January 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Huckabee didn’t say that. Not even close. And its clear by the audience he totally won this whole debate too. They love him.
lorien1973 on January 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM
You gotta admit, Ron Paul does a great job of justifying the unjustifiable.
Always Right on January 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM
For Ron Paul,there’s your truther moonbat phrase,
the EMPIRE!
canopfor on January 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Ron Paul just showed to the world that he doesn’t have the first idea about foreign policy.
Osama is gigglin in a cave, somewhere.
yo on January 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Fox seems to have rolled out the red carpet to the Ronulans to make up for the NH shutout
NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Ron Paul should be running as an isolationist for the ‘America First’ party in 1940. He’s against FDR and this “rush to war” nonsense.
silverfox on January 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM
In which they all try to out Tanc the Tanc….let’s not do this again.
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM
OK, Grandpa..come back to bed and take your meds…leave the debating to the sane people.
heatherrc77 on January 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Great minds…
ReubenJCogburn on January 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM
from NRO:
jp on January 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Immigration questions coming up next? Take a drink anytime someone says amnesty.
darii on January 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Or on a blimp
NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Lets get ready to
RUMBEL
Mojack420 on January 10, 2008 at 10:23 PM
I missed most of it. Did they whack Paul with newsletters?
TheBigOldDog on January 10, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Theyu are all freaks. On some points Paul makes the most sense but besides McCain and Huck he is the last candidate I can support.
SIJ6141 on January 10, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Huckabee’s answer was smooth but he really was preaching to the choir. He made the believers who already were for him swoon,and he made all those who are not already for him groan.
Always Right on January 10, 2008 at 10:23 PM
8 Mins left for any talk on immigration. This thing will end without Fred hitting McCain, who is the one who is in the lead right now.
Weight of Glory on January 10, 2008 at 10:23 PM
First off, he’s getting respect by being allowed up there after all the flat-out hat-spewed literature came out about him. It’s a lack of respect to all those people that he IS up there.
Secondly, Paul is using this as a platform to attack American policies, not lead the nation. He doesn’t offer up a platform, he attacks the rest of the group for anything they believe in.
Vincenzo on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
I have the window minimized and am listening, so I didn’t get the visual clue that Camron was about to shoot Ron Paul in the head…
doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
someone point out to paul that National Security is a Civil Liberty
jp on January 10, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Great Point!!!
Reaganliveson on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
What make Paul dangerous is he is right on a list of issues and he is insane.
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Fred needs to touch on his faith…
broker1 on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
if you are watching online, hume looked like he just farted.
lorien1973 on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Interestingly the Republican nominee in 1940 wasn’t an isolationist.
Vizzini on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Dont let up now Fred!
kcd on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Los immigracion is next! They will open with McShamnesty of course…just watch.
SouthernGent on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Strap on yer helmets folks…
unamused on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Kill em Fred.
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Fred started well, now he must finish it off strong in this round.
Graybark on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Ah yes Thompson, McCain nailing time.
BKennedy on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Need more time for Fred
jpsc1 on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
ALLLLLL RIIIIIGHT!
Weight of Glory on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
That the GOP is losing footing with conservatism is what FRED addresses in staying on platform. If Ron Paul were Captain of the Titanic, he’d force everyone to jump directly into the freezing waters, denying rescue boats.
maverick muse on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Shamnesty B!TCH
tickleddragon on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Get McCain Fred!
Weight of Glory on January 10, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Freds chance to smack McCain…..TAKE IT!!
P. James Moriarty on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
McCain really does have the jaws of a pitbull.
unamused on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
The Ronulans fought hard to get him in the debates.
So… How’s that working out for ya?
Timothy S. Carlson on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
It failed because it was AMNESTY.
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
there
Mojack420 on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
They shut down your phone lines because of the bill you supported, you idiotic twit!
BKennedy on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
What blame the American people?!
sonnyspats1 on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
We had no confidence in you on Shamnesty either, McVain.
ReubenJCogburn on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
No, McAmnesty, we didn’t want it because it SUCKED. And we don’t trust you AS A RESULT.
John_Locke on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
What is McCain drawing? A square?
darii on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
McCain’s idea failed because the America people have no confidence in execution.
Maybe.
That, or it just sucked.
yo on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
McCain: We didn’t secure the borders. But now I will.
NellE on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
it failed because you don’t know how to seal your own borders
Reaganliveson on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
blame the americans that saw through your crappy plan? you BASTARD!
WastelandMan on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Mclame coudn’t secure a hotel reservation!
kcd on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
The McCain set-up….the rest are set to hit em….go git ‘im Fred!
rslancer14 on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Two obviously irrelevant observations:
1. The Stuck On Huck rap has the same rhythm as Another One Bites The Dust by Queen. All it needs is Huck playing the bass.
2. The sculpture of Fred’s head reminds me of something made by the Olmecs.
Bigfoot on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Will Fred turn on McShamnesty? Lets find out…
NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Didn’t Richardson claim to know how to secure the borders because he was from a border state, also?
kc2ige on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
McCain “It failed b/c American didn’t have trust in the federal government… which err, means me as I note I have been in federal government since the 1980s” Well-played, sir.
Wineaholic on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
If he doesn’t hit him hard then Fred isn’t serious about SC.
Weight of Glory on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
This is a real debate with real questions. If the same questions were given to Dhimmis,and if the moderator was Olberdouche, it would be a ‘vast right wing conspiracy!’
Makes me proud to be a republican, no matter how libertarian I really am.
lsutiger on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
The american people lost their faith in governemtn??
Which means “The stupid people just wouldnt trust people smarter than them, such as me.”
broker1 on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
YOu watch, FOX will stone wall Fred. TAKE IT FRED!
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Put the crack pipe down and back slowly away from it.
doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
McCain has done well tonight, but I want to barf when he talks about immigration. UAVs!? Just. Build. The. Fence.
fiatboomer on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
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