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Open thread: The “Fred’s and Mitt’s last chance” debate!

posted at 7:54 pm on January 10, 2008 by Allahpundit
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9 p.m. ET on Fox News from Myrtle Beach, SC. The anticipation over Ron Paul’s impending immolation has deflated a bit thanks to his CNN appearance, but only a bit: Kudos to Wolf Blitzer for tossing him softballs so that Wallace can put the screws to him in primetime. Tonight’s the last spin of the wheel for Fred and Romney, needless to say. With McCain and Huck in front of him, Fred’s going RINO-hunting; expect him to hammer the “true conservative” meme to the point of desperation. Mitt’s task is tough given the fact that Michigan is the must-win for him now, not SC. That means less Carolina social-con red meat about values and the war and more Detroit red meat about economic recovery. Something to chew on while you watch — even if one of them dropped out and could somehow cede all his votes to the other, that would still only put the survivor one point ahead of Captain Amnesty. How did we get to this point?

Also needless to say, count on lots of surge anniversary talk from McCain and some “culture of life” red meat from Huck. While you wait, enjoy the latest on Bloomberg’s already insufferable flirtation with his messianic nonpartisan presidential run. He’s Mitt Romney minus the looks, charisma (really), and conservative values, plus a few extra plutocratic billion in the bank. Where do I sign up?

Two videos for you, too. The first is McCain’s primary strategy — from last month. His guys may not have money but they know what they’re doing. The second is … unfortunate.


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McCain just sounds worn out.

ReubenJCogburn on January 10, 2008 at 10:08 PM

He’s gonna make those pork barrelers famous!

kc2ige on January 10, 2008 at 10:08 PM

why does Mclame keep talking about Abramoff??!!!

Reaganliveson on January 10, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Oh we can’t play the change game again..I got sloppy drunk after the dem debate

lsutiger on January 10, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Dont forget…”change” is 3 drinks

NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

McCain, are you the problem?

No, dummy. I change stuff too. I changed Iraq. I tanked a tanker. I put Abramoff in prison. Lets change some more stuff.

NellE on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

OMG, I need a new fifth from all the “change”….

unamused on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

McCain speaking – brain…going…to…explode!

Timothy S. Carlson on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

i never took pork but i will sell you out for tacos

Mojack420 on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Wallace!

phronesis on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Chris Wallace needs to as Dr. Paul about his personal letters.

omnipotent on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Fred’ll never get elected because he won’t let the media pick on him.

yo on January 10, 2008 at 10:07 PM

Neither would Reagan!

Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate!

TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

change change change change …

Someone shove Grandpa. He’s skipping.

yo on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

McCain: Tankers. Abramoff. Prison. Change. CHANGE.

wccawa on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

BTW, the word ‘change’ during Presidential campaigns is insulting. Bill Clinton ran his entire campaign on ‘change.’ Yeah, we got change all right.

Can we fine these candidates $1000 every time they say ‘change’ or ‘Reagan?’

fiatboomer on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Wallace starts on the left and moves on, but SKIPS FRED EVERY DAMN TIME.

Come on!

John_Locke on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Paul has been eating too much time. Everyone is targeting him and then reacting. Eating up Fred and Mitt’s time so far.

Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 10:07 PM

Time slows down when McCain talks, so it evens out.

joewm315 on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Lol is Chris Wallace a candidate?? Thanks Chris!!

broker1 on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Change x 10 thats 30 drinks!

NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

“I raised hope.”

*throws up*

salmonczar on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Did McLame just say…CHANGE!!??

kcd on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Can’t these guys state in particular what needs changing in Washington right now before stating what they’ve changed in the past.

darii on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

I raised hope….

….just puked in my mouth a bit.

dean_acheson on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Huckabee is looking like the schmuck he is! He may well up with tears any minute now!

SouthernGent on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

OH! Chris Wallace smacks the Huckapunk.

He raises hope?! He raises my dinner.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Huckabee is lying again!!!

Reaganliveson on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

I raised hope?? PUKE

heatherrc77 on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

AAAAGGGGHGHHHHHHHH Sgut up Huck and answer the dang question!

WastelandMan on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Huckabee: “If by ‘change’ you mean ‘Marxism’, then yes, I’m for change.”

unamused on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Huck grabs the “Hope” thing.

Hope Rocks ™

yo on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

i never took pork but i will sell you out for tacos

Mojack420 on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

MAGIC…………..thank you!!

omnipotent on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Oh, please, no more “Hope.”

MsUnderestimated on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

McCain’s CHANGE litany.
Go surge.
Tax cuts.
Ask Abramoff, endorsement!

maverick muse on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Change – check
Hope – check

I feel complete now!

Entelechy on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Big Government “for the Children”. Wrong Party Huck.

phronesis on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

crap! this is like live blogging the comments go so fast.

Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate!

TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Courts don’t order you to spend money!!!!!!!

Reaganliveson on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

I raised hope

SHUTUP, Huck. You stole from McCain’s playbook and now you’re sighting Obama’s.

malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Huck: I raised hope. For the kids.

MEGA BARF MOMEMT.

Always Right on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Huck “I raised taxes, and I raised hope!” Wow. I bet he could beat Hillary… for the Democratic nomination

Wineaholic on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Huck…doin it for those kids..

AUINSC on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Get in there Fred!! Take it!

P. James Moriarty on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

OMG…Huckabee’s voice is trembling…or is it my TV?

SouthernGent on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Huck’s talking again. I’m getting a head ache.

darii on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

“Hope.” “Expectations.” “The kids.” You sound like the liberal you are.

ReubenJCogburn on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

AND I raised taxes. For the children.

Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

DUDE!! TRUCKERS MAGAZINE!!!!!

malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Dont forget…”change” is 3 drinks

NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Oh CRAP! I got some catching up to do!
..thank God Friday is an easy day!(Watch me get cursed for saying that!)

lsutiger on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Romney first, AGAIN?! Chris Wallace’s lead.

Mitt imitating Fred’s concise style.
Then the litany. “It hasn’t been done”

Oh, the CHANGE word. Mitt did not invent the Olympics. Mitt will honor the promises…CHANGE. RINO!

maverick muse on January 10, 2008 at 10:08 PM

Hey Fredbat muse, Romney had conciseness down pat long before Thompson. Thompson’s awakening is new to this debate.

BKennedy on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

How many times is McCAIN going to mention “I’m the Sheriff” and how he stopped ‘the tanker’???

Bad as Guiliani used to be on mentioning 9/11.

LegendHasIt on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

He He He..Huckabee is struggling!!!

kcd on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

There’s “Hope”

Leave it to Huckabee to drop it. LOL

MrSteve on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Tax question to Huck. Fred crouches to attack. Oh lets not forget the kids Huck. Sounds like a lib to me. Don’t forget the scandles Huck.

sonnyspats1 on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

It’s good for the children!

kc2ige on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

I think I just saw Huck use the Clinton lip-bite.

unamused on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

The kids drive in Arkansas?!

ReubenJCogburn on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

HIGHWAYS accessible to KIDS?? roflmao!

MsUnderestimated on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Huck..improving the Environment…for those kids.

AUINSC on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Huckabee is lying crying again!!!

Reaganliveson on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM

And truckers love roads, y’all.

Long live the Huck. The Huck is dead.

wccawa on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Fred, get in there and point out he is anti-vouchers.

Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Children had access to highways??

broker1 on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Juicy: Fred on “change”

yo on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

FRED!

MITX on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Huck is quoting Truckers Magazine?

The falling bridges line fell flat. Good. Score points on a disaster (oops, describes Rudy’s campaign).

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

OMG that was low!”we had no bridges falling in arkansas!”
oh man that was a bad swipe at Romney! and the big dig!!!!

WastelandMan on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Highways were accessible to every kid in the state??

That sounds dangerous.

salmonczar on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Fox has had a hard on for Fred from the word go, he won’t catch a break from em. He will have to take this debate, they ain’t gonna give it to him.

RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 10:08 PM

He took it a question ago…….Huck has a highway he didn’t build.

sunny on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Huck backhand disses Mitt again with country club quote. Go away, Mike.

malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Huckabee has William Shatner syndrome tonight.

“I….raised…the hope……in ..Arkansas…..”

Hawkins1701 on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

How could the Arkansas courts make the state spend more money on education? I don’t get it. Do they have that power???

krabbas on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Yes… Huck wants the kids to go play on the highways… heh

MsUnderestimated on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Fred continues putting nails in Huck’s coffin.

BKennedy on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Fred has been doing his homework on Huckyboy. This is getting good!

SouthernGent on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

I raised hope? The only thing he is raising is the puke into my mouth.

liberrocky on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

courtesy of another thread.

Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate!

TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Fred is just pummeling the Huckster!

Reaganliveson on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Sorry Huck, that dog don’t hunt.

RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

(He said he made the roads available to every kid in Arkansas.)

ReubenJCogburn on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

We already know all the illegals, and their kids will vote for you Mr. Huckster.

mustang1 on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

If elected President MaCain wants to enact the changed he
tried as a Senator. God Help us

jadedlady on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

If I hear change one more time I will have to crack another beer.

jpsc1 on January 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Fred has been doing his homework on Huckyboy. This is getting good!

SouthernGent on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Gettin REAL good!! GO FRED!

heatherrc77 on January 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Raised Hope

Puked Blood

John_Locke on January 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Huck’s bug-eyed glare is creepy. Probably imagining Fred as a dog he can skin and hang.

joewm315 on January 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Fred….laying off Huckabeast. Tooting his own horn.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM

too many ppl, too many posts….slooooooooow down!
it’s hurting my eyeballs!

lsutiger on January 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Highways were accessible to every kid in the state??

That sounds dangerous.

salmonczar on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Same thought.

And Fred’s burning Huckabee. BURNING.

Vizzini on January 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Mike is the biggest douche tonight!!!!!!!!!

Bar none.

Mcguyver on January 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM

So what? DO IT AGAIN. Huck supporters are slow sometimes.

Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Huck’s taking notes: “Things I Should Avoid Saying Around Fred Thompson”

darii on January 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM

You tell ‘em Fred!

kc2ige on January 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Fred went too rambly on that one.

BKennedy on January 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Fred used all kinds of words instead of “change”.

That alone deserves my vote.

But I think Fred needs another adrenaline shot.

unamused on January 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM

oh come on Fred, keep slapping Huck around…don’t go all positive now.

AUINSC on January 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM

First time I’ve heard the word ‘Immigration’ – illegal or no

Ugly on January 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM

yeah he was a bit rambly but other wise tonight he’s been good

WastelandMan on January 10, 2008 at 10:13 PM

If this doesn’t earn Fred some press tomorrow, I will very disappointed.

Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 10:13 PM

I hope Fred smacks Huck, literally!

kcd on January 10, 2008 at 10:13 PM

Fred: Huck’s a hypocrite. I can do good stuff but I’m not saying the word “change”

NellE on January 10, 2008 at 10:13 PM

DUDE!! TRUCKERS MAGAZINE!!!!!

malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM

LOL Exactly.

Fred with the Huck SMACKDOWN AGAIN. Nicely spoken, Fred

NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 10:13 PM

Yeah Gubment jobs!

broker1 on January 10, 2008 at 10:13 PM

Fred fixes his jaw.

sonnyspats1 on January 10, 2008 at 10:13 PM

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