Open thread: The “Fred’s and Mitt’s last chance” debate!
posted at 7:54 pm on January 10, 2008 by Allahpundit
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9 p.m. ET on Fox News from Myrtle Beach, SC. The anticipation over Ron Paul’s impending immolation has deflated a bit thanks to his CNN appearance, but only a bit: Kudos to Wolf Blitzer for tossing him softballs so that Wallace can put the screws to him in primetime. Tonight’s the last spin of the wheel for Fred and Romney, needless to say. With McCain and Huck in front of him, Fred’s going RINO-hunting; expect him to hammer the “true conservative” meme to the point of desperation. Mitt’s task is tough given the fact that Michigan is the must-win for him now, not SC. That means less Carolina social-con red meat about values and the war and more Detroit red meat about economic recovery. Something to chew on while you watch — even if one of them dropped out and could somehow cede all his votes to the other, that would still only put the survivor one point ahead of Captain Amnesty. How did we get to this point?
Also needless to say, count on lots of surge anniversary talk from McCain and some “culture of life” red meat from Huck. While you wait, enjoy the latest on Bloomberg’s already insufferable flirtation with his messianic nonpartisan presidential run. He’s Mitt Romney minus the looks, charisma (really), and conservative values, plus a few extra plutocratic billion in the bank. Where do I sign up?
Two videos for you, too. The first is McCain’s primary strategy — from last month. His guys may not have money but they know what they’re doing. The second is … unfortunate.
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Anybody notice the questions delivered tonight are about true threats to our nation, versus the ‘how much do you hate the other side’ questions on the dem debates?
Things that make you go hmmmmm.
lsutiger on January 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM
More Ron Paul…
I think I may be in the minority.
al sends
afterdarknesslight on January 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Are Ron Paul’s eyebrows pasted on? They look… unsure of themselves?
sarahk on January 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM
I said it 4 months ago
welcome to Hot Iar BTW !!!!
:) :) :)
WastelandMan on January 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Go Fred
jpsc1 on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Ugh one small Fred flub, he said “We need more help from him in the western mountains of Aghanistan to hunt Bin Laden” He meant to say mountains of Pakistan…
broker1 on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Madernity?
Timothy S. Carlson on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
You guys are nerds. 3D chess reference? Geez… live with your parents much? ;-)
Vizzini on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Mitt just confused the crap out of me.
Talk slower Mitt.
unamused on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
What about a Thompson/Romney campaign?
MsUnderestimated on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
FRED
Pak democracy long term interest of theirs and of ours.
Keep eyes on stability, and demand results getting benLaden.
maverick muse on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Piss….y.
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
;)
doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
* Hot Air
WastelandMan on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Guess Mitt studied up for that one.
fiatboomer on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Mormons in space?
Micheal on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Let’s hope some of Huckabee’s supporters feel the same way. Fred needs to siphon off Huck’s support; even if he doesn’t win he can save the party.
joewm315 on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Alright Mitt, good job bringing it back in focus, a little long, but a good recovery.
BKennedy on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Preach it, Brother Mitt. Muslims need to reject the Islamists.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Huck is like – Hey Mitt can you explain that to me afterward?
Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Pile drive Huck, anyone and everyone.
John_Locke on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
If by both Barrels you mean these then yes, you would be correct
Razgriez on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Whoa Mitt powerful answer on islmofacism.
sonnyspats1 on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
It would be an AWESOME ticket either way!
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Go Fred!
Jaibones on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Second look at Fred!
TheBigOldDog on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Huck’s sounding pissy again. He hates FP questions.
ReubenJCogburn on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
What about a Thompson/Romney campaign?MsUnderestimated on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
When Paul comes on all I can hear is Christopher Walken asking for more Cow Bell. It keeps blood from shooting out of my eyes.
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 9:58 PM
I forgive him. Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate!
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Huck sounding like a liberal again. Where’s our dough, Musharraf?
NellE on January 10, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Mitt, echos Fred w/o acknowledging credit for Fred’s demand for the CONSERVATIVE PLATFORM for us.
maverick muse on January 10, 2008 at 9:58 PM
No Huck, it wasn’t “your colleages” who said that, it was FRED!
unamused on January 10, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Good ol’ stumblin’ Huck…
Timothy S. Carlson on January 10, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Huck’s like, who’s Musharraf? Didn’t she just get assassinated?
John_Locke on January 10, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Not going to get along here, nitpicking over typos, Hon.
tickleddragon on January 10, 2008 at 9:58 PM
I WILL NOT vote for a Trekkie!
/The Force
omnipotent on January 10, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Huck is lost on economy & foreigh policy
kcd on January 10, 2008 at 9:58 PM
You know what befuddles me? Of all the debates I’ve watched (and I’ve watched 98% of them), the Fox News panel asks the most educated, complete questions of any of the panels. So why is the democrap party afraid to debate them? Oh, wait… they’d have to answer the real que… never mind.
MsUnderestimated on January 10, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Huck:
I’ve been somewhere outside the US before!
John_Locke on January 10, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Mitt and Fred are sharp, tonight.
Huck sounds like a preacher on a droning radio in the background
McCain is hard to pay attention to
Paul’s just a waste of time
Did Rudy come to this?
yo on January 10, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Is Huck trying to hop on the “lets diss RP” bandwagon? Welcome to the party, Huck.
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Huck just parroted exactly what Fred said about Pakistan, only in a much wimpier way.
Chuckie on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
HUCK resume’ BLEH shaddap about yer itenerary
WastelandMan on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
So Huck, Pakistan isn’t our Ally? Turkey? IRAQ? Hello?
BKennedy on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Ha, even Huck is beating up on the Omega of the pack now…
AUINSC on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Here comes Ron Paul!
kc2ige on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Huckabee chewing and spitting Paul out.
SouthernGent on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Oh geez, Huck. Boilerplate boilerplate boilerplate. Making hard decisions.
Vizzini on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Huckabee’s going after Paul on Israel: Way to go, Huck!
Christoph on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Is Huck really going for the easy target?
RP looks flustered.
Timothy S. Carlson on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Hi, my name is Mike Huckabee, and I learned my foreign policy from Opie from Mayberry!
Reaganliveson on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
I’ll give Huck credit to stepping up for Israel to Paulnut, though.
ReubenJCogburn on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
MORE COW BELL MORE COW BELL
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Wow, dog pile on Paul.
Be careful guys, you’re gonna get crazy all over your nice suits.
unamused on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Let’s see if RP quotes his friend David Duke.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
GULF OF TONKIN! GULF OF TONKIN!! ppppffftttt…JOG ON Ron
heatherrc77 on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Paul — “We treat Israel as a stepchild” WHAT?!
Wineaholic on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Paul is getting WAY TOO MUCH time here!
kcd on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Yes I understand the English contraction, I typed it too fast! It’s debate thread!
Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Huck had that saved up – he knows trashing Paul is a good way to gain cred.
fiatboomer on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Even Huck gave Paul the smackdown!
NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
It was a joke…i makeses typoes ali teh teim
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Good point Huck, Ron Paul is a nut.
jpsc1 on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Huck and Ron, talking foreign policy. This is getting good.
NellE on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Comedy relief
yo on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Mitt,doesn’t matter how you slice it,moderate muslims
will continue to look the other way,especially if you
live in Tehran.
canopfor on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Does Paul really think we should release Israel’s dogs of war?
unamused on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Because…the Fox News panel asks the most educated, complete questions of any of the panels.
doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Hey, Foxy, that’s a pretty good lineup. I like that a lot. How’s about we move Schmuckabee to … uh … no, leave him there.
Jaibones on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
A lot of Paul nuts in the crowd tonight
bojack on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
C’mon Fred – go for the kill.
Timothy S. Carlson on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Glad to hear it, Hon. :)
tickleddragon on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Manic Minister is just letting Stormfront eat out time so he stops getting stoned.
BKennedy on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Huck is such a lousy presidential figure.
It’s one thing for a preacher man to drone on and on at church; the congregation bears through it, expecting it has to be so.
It’s another thing for Huck to drone on and on without MEANING anything significant to our entire nation, mimicking the Fred.
maverick muse on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
I feel like I’m watching where in the world is Carmen Sandiego with all the country references
John_Locke on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Geez…Ron Paul is making them all look good. Too bad for Thompson. He could’ve owned this debate.
SouthernGent on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
I’ve been to Isreal more than you..
heatherrc77 on January 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM
… sounds like it.
So Israel can go to Iraq but we can’t?
Keljeck on January 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM
“tactical things”
Very very presidential, Rudy.
unamused on January 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Esp wrt Israel – big evangelical concern.
Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Huck talking foreign policy would be comical if it weren’t so damn serious.
SimplyKimberly on January 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM
True dat. Israel’s method of negotiating peace is only after they’ve defeated their enemies.
darii on January 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM
More blood!! Go Fred!!
P. James Moriarty on January 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Ron is a federalist…
He sounds like a nut because he does not sound like the other democrats on stage.
afterdarknesslight on January 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM
FRED!
maverick muse on January 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Thompson has Huckabee in his scope tonight..
henzou on January 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM
BEAT HIM, FRED!
John_Locke on January 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Rudy bitch slaps RP
Fred schools shuckabee
Mojack420 on January 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Fred: Huck, shut up and go get me a beer.
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM
NOT BAD.
NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Dr. Paul need more Depends.
omnipotent on January 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Fred gets back to beating Huck into the ground.
BKennedy on January 10, 2008 at 10:02 PM
You kinda want to listen to what he’s saying when he stares into the camera and does that eyebrow thing.
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Fred is on the offensive against the Huckster!!!!
Reaganliveson on January 10, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Ha, Fred schooling Huckster on Pakistan.
ReubenJCogburn on January 10, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Here Fred goes after Huck again.
Fred to Huck: The money is for their military, dumba$$.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 10, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Fred is looking for any way to pick apart Huckabee’s answers, and finally expose him for a foreign policy rookie.
joewm315 on January 10, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Fred is beating the stupid out of Huck on Pakistan and it’s staining the walls.
darii on January 10, 2008 at 10:02 PM
BWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA
tickleddragon on January 10, 2008 at 10:02 PM
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