Open thread: The “Fred’s and Mitt’s last chance” debate!
posted at 7:54 pm on January 10, 2008 by Allahpundit
9 p.m. ET on Fox News from Myrtle Beach, SC. The anticipation over Ron Paul’s impending immolation has deflated a bit thanks to his CNN appearance, but only a bit: Kudos to Wolf Blitzer for tossing him softballs so that Wallace can put the screws to him in primetime. Tonight’s the last spin of the wheel for Fred and Romney, needless to say. With McCain and Huck in front of him, Fred’s going RINO-hunting; expect him to hammer the “true conservative” meme to the point of desperation. Mitt’s task is tough given the fact that Michigan is the must-win for him now, not SC. That means less Carolina social-con red meat about values and the war and more Detroit red meat about economic recovery. Something to chew on while you watch — even if one of them dropped out and could somehow cede all his votes to the other, that would still only put the survivor one point ahead of Captain Amnesty. How did we get to this point?
Also needless to say, count on lots of surge anniversary talk from McCain and some “culture of life” red meat from Huck. While you wait, enjoy the latest on Bloomberg’s already insufferable flirtation with his messianic nonpartisan presidential run. He’s Mitt Romney minus the looks, charisma (really), and conservative values, plus a few extra plutocratic billion in the bank. Where do I sign up?
Two videos for you, too. The first is McCain’s primary strategy — from last month. His guys may not have money but they know what they’re doing. The second is … unfortunate.










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Ron we were never allied with Bin Laden.
Keljeck on January 10, 2008 at 9:51 PM
STFU, Paulution!
MsUnderestimated on January 10, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Reading my mind.
baldilocks on January 10, 2008 at 9:51 PM
RP – im taking my ball and going home!! waaaaaaaaaaaaaa
heatherrc77 on January 10, 2008 at 9:51 PM
LOL on McCain’s Burka line.
BKennedy on January 10, 2008 at 9:51 PM
McCain. Panderer.
wccawa on January 10, 2008 at 9:51 PM
You apologize to the poor retards you just insulted…
doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Henchman…………DRINK!!!
omnipotent on January 10, 2008 at 9:51 PM
NO, SHUTUP!
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 9:51 PM
STOP WHINING. PLEASE. STOP TALKING RON.
John_Locke on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
“MAY I ANSWER THAAAT???!!! MAY I AMSWER THAAAAT?????!!!!”
*mute button*
Hawkins1701 on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
we were never allied with OBL. This is a myth. Geesh.
lorien1973 on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Decent joke.
Well rehearsed.
plop
yo on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Hey Stormfront. STFU.
BKennedy on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Rudy and Paul have delusions of grandeur..
They are fooling themselves.
Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate!
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Paul Bots GO home!!!!!!!
WastelandMan on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
who the hell is cheering Paul?
phronesis on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Paul is looking more and more like a doddering, babbling fool!
MITX on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
ENOUGH!!
P. James Moriarty on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
John McCain: Senator, amateur stand up comedian.
darii on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
It is time for you to go home………Ron.
omnipotent on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
come on Fred jump in here and blast that
nut off the stage.
jadedlady on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
This is comedy gold!
SouthernGent on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Ron Paul,”can’t we all just get along?”
Talk about way too much blow back!
McCain, don’t travel the one way ticket with terrorists! LOL
maverick muse on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Wow has Ron Paul gone off the deep end!!!!!!!!! Thank goodness!!!!
Reaganliveson on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Is this a ron paul, Mclame debate!!??
kcd on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
DON’T BORE ME, BRO’!
madmonkphotog on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Beat ya to it.
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
McCain’s phoning this one in.
yawn
yo on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Paul is like a skinny Andy Rooney.
Vizzini on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
can we just take ron paul off the stage
jpsc1 on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Yup.
Weight of Glory on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
We’re arming the Sunnis, eh? Idjit.
baldilocks on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Himself, in other words.
amerpundit on January 10, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Paul please just get back on the blimp and go back to your planet.
Paul has NO VISION. Maybe faulty vision, at best
NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Mitt and Fred! aren’t getting jack…
John_Locke on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
bell break, paul, shut up
maverick muse on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Seriously, why is Paul getting so much airtime for this? And did Fred leave for a smoke? Where is he?
Wineaholic on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Get back to Fred
P. James Moriarty on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Fred! pwns Wendall!!
omnipotent on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
BWAHAHAHA! Fred!
tickleddragon on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
YES!!! Go Fred
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Hey Fred!!!
kcd on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Media Bias?? NO WAY! Go FRED!
heatherrc77 on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
McCain’s tongue inverted his message.
maverick muse on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Advantage-McShamnesty
NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Polls are an illusion.
And NYT are traitors. FRED! Aaaaaaaaah, he’ll save every one of us!
unamused on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Nice Fred! NYT slam.
yo on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Fred’s going to break Huck. Guaranteed.
Vizzini on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
New York Times….Zing!!! Fred!
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
RONpaul has been playing the drinking game all day
custer on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Fred dissed polls and the NYT in his opening remark–good start
NellE on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Fred is on a roll tonight..
henzou on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Fred channels Rush Limbaugh.
joewm315 on January 10, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Fred quote of the night.Fred quote of the night.
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Stormfront continues to embarrass himself. Maverick is shooting him down.
BKennedy on January 10, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Fred! en fuego.
SimplyKimberly on January 10, 2008 at 9:54 PM
He doesn’t get it! An enemy of our enemy is our friend for the moment. Foreign policy is a bully playground. You have to persuade and give in a little to the enemy of our enemy, when the time is right.
He is lost on the whole deal.
lsutiger on January 10, 2008 at 9:54 PM
McCain has been strong aside from the global warming idiocy.
phronesis on January 10, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Fred!!!!!! Take out Huck, and I’ll start donating again!
Micheal on January 10, 2008 at 9:54 PM
FRED on Pakistan!
Go Fred
maverick muse on January 10, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Is it me,or is Ron Paul starting a chain reaction
towards critical mass!
canopfor on January 10, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Good answer Fred, let’s destabilize a nuclear power because it will win an election!
John_Locke on January 10, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Paul just said we armed Bin Laden, that is left-wing propaganda
jp on January 10, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Fred, your kicking ass, now take some names!
Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Fred, don’t confuse the rest with facts…pander, pander, you need to win.
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Playing to the base, and we’re lapping it up.
darii on January 10, 2008 at 9:54 PM
That’s right. Better to have a secular dictator in control of the nuke than one of his religious peers.
unamused on January 10, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Fred’s answer was presidential. But what a long shot.
mustang1 on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Where’s Huck’s advice on how to handle the Pakistan situation? Has he consulted John Bolton on that one yet?
kc2ige on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Since I am getting this online at a 30 delay I get a heads up from y’all when Fred’s fixin’ to speak.
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
hear hear Fred!
tickleddragon on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Goooo Fred!!!
kcd on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
You can tell by Miits look he never thought of that.
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
I was the first to say it ….
Fred / Mitt 2008
WastelandMan on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Musharraf can’t get Al Qaeda, only McCain knows where Osama is!
John_Locke on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
****you’re******
Pet peeve.
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Fred! Looking great!
AUINSC on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Fred wins again…Oh no go against polls? Cant do that…
doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
You’re right, dorian… I’m sorry to all the real retards for tarnishing them in this manner.
MsUnderestimated on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Fred came to kick arse and chew bubble gum…..and he’s all out of bubble gum.
unamused on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Hi, my name is Fred Thompson…I’m smarter than all of you punks!
Reaganliveson on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Fred! is sane and sensible………….ah, refreshing.
omnipotent on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Is that a Trek reference from Mitt?
fiatboomer on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Indeed
NickTx on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Mitt needs a more concise message here, the start wasn’t so great.
BKennedy on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
3-D chess reference! Dorks unite!
ReubenJCogburn on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
MITT STAR TREK REFERENCE LOL 3d Chess
WastelandMan on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
I LOVE FRED!
heatherrc77 on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
I said it last week!
malan89 on January 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM
slap shot on the dems and thre ny
timecrimesgo FRED go
Mojack420 on January 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Go pet your peeve some where else…
doriangrey on January 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Three dimensional chess. That makes my head hurt. Good answer Mitt
John_Locke on January 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Fred’s joke about the NYT was better that Macain’s
jadedlady on January 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM
3D Chess …
Nice visual
yo on January 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Fred’s continuing strong… I like his line about the polls… how can anyone ever go against a poll? Now he’s being substantively strong on Pakistan, a situation he and McCain understand well, Fred probably best. Way to go, Fred!
Christoph on January 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Romney knows his sh*t…. ‘nuf said
Micheal on January 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Need to get used to that, Newbie. It’s inevitable.
tickleddragon on January 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM
PLEASE FRED, KEEP THIS UP IN THE UPCOMING MONTHS! WE NEED YOU AS OUR PRESIDENT!!!!
MsUnderestimated on January 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM
I like Freds new voice,it’s forceful,a little
louder and nicely dignified!
canopfor on January 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM
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