Mike Huckabee and the “Shiite Republicans” Updated
posted at 12:00 pm on January 10, 2008 by Bryan
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Yesterday in Allah’s post about the Baptist who’s not endorsing Huckabee, I updated with a link to this article that summarizes conservative issues with Mike Huckabee’s tenure as Arkansas governor. The author, David J. Sanders, lists several specific things that Huckabee did that irritated the state’s Republicans, to the point that the Democrats increased their power during Huckabee’s tenure.
In 2000, Huckabee insisted on controlling the state party’s separate Victory Committee, but the committee’s finances were so poorly handled that a Federal Election Commission investigation resulted in the largest fine ever handed down by the FEC to a state party. That same year Republican Rep. Jay Dickey lost the 4th District seat he’d held for eight years.
In 2001, when conservative Republican lawmakers opposed a higher sales taxes and fees the governor supported, he began calling them “Shiites.” Huckabee’s positions on fiscal policy became indistinguishable from Democrats’ positions. A year later, he openly campaigned against a ballot initiative to remove the sales tax on food and medicine. While he and Rockefeller won re-election in 2002, Sen. Tim Hutchinson didn’t.
In 2003, Huckabee not only begged lawmakers for new taxes to make up a budget shortfall, but he rebuffed conservatives’ (Republicans and a couple of Democrats) plan to cover the shortfall by tapping one-time money and cutting pork. In 2004, President Bush won re-election, but Huckabee campaigned for some Democrats – even some who had Republican opponents – and Republicans lost state legislative seats for the first time since 1990.
In 2005, a term-limited Huckabee frustrated conservatives when he pushed a bill to give in-state college tuition and scholarships to the children of illegal immigrants. The next year, Democrats swept Republicans in every race for statewide constitutional office and Republicans lost legislative seats for the second consecutive election cycle.
Curious about the lack of specifics in the paragraph about Huckabee campaigning with some Democrats, I followed up with Sanders to get some names. And he provided one and is hunting for more.
As for a race in which Huckabee worked to defeat a Republican, there was a legislative race in Mountain Home, Arkansas, where Huckabee helped Democrat Benny Magness in his race against Republican Shawn Womack. Womack won.
Campaigning for the other party is bad enough, but it’s the “Shiite Republicans” moniker that disturbs me more. He started using it in 2001 and continued using it afterward. It’s the kind of attack that conservatives regularly get from the likes of the Daily Kos and other leftists who gleefully refer to conservatives and particularly Christian conservatives as the “Taliban wing” of the GOP or “America’s Taliban.” It’s a smear, and one that no Republican should lob at others and particularly not at conservatives, who are the base of the party.
I wondered if there was evidence outside Sanders’ article for Huckabee’s smear. There is. Here’s an article from December mentioning it.
There’s a species of Republican true believers right here in Arkansas who’ve always suspected his bona fides as an honest-to-goodness fiscal conservative and social reactionary. They’re largely to be found up in the hills, which tend to be Republican territory in any Southern state because of complicated historical, ethnic, economic and geological reasons having to do with soil, slavery and the plantation system. Back when he was a feisty, hefty pol instead of a walking –– no, running –– advertisement for weight loss, Brother Huckabee used to fondly refer to such critics as Shi’ite Republicans.
That author is joining Huckabee’s smear to pile on fiscal conservatives like the Club for Growth, whom Huckabee calls the “Club for Greed.”
Does Huckabee ever talk about any Democrat group or faction with similar insults? If he has, I haven’t heard it.
These smears get to the root of the problem I have with Huckabee. Instinctively, he is not a conservative. He’ll say conservative things in order to win approval from some part of the party’s base, but when push comes to shove he instinctively goes for the non-conservative side of the argument. I’m not just talking about calling Republicans “Shiites,” a quote that’s sure to get played over and over again if he’s the nominee, or about his raising taxes rather than cutting spending as the Arkansas “Shiite Republicans” wanted him to do, but about his swift shifts on issues like Gitmo and using the leftish “bunker mentality” slam on the Bush administration. It’s tiresome enough to get hit with this kind of rhetoric from the left. Conservatives don’t need one on our own side who is just as likely as they are to smear us.
Some may lob the exact same criticism at Romney, that he says conservative things just to court the conservative vote. There may be some truth to that, but has Romney gone out of his way to smear conservatives as “Shiites?” He didn’t run in 1994 on a platform of Reagan-Bush conservatism, granted, but I haven’t seen any evidence that Romney or any of the other candidates save McCain has gone out of his way to smear conservatives. And instinctively, Romney seems to tack more toward conservative ideas than away from them when he has the latitude. The opposite is the case with respect to Huckabee. The pattern I’m getting from him is that on social issues he’ll tack right, but on everything else he’ll tack left.
Add it all up. Huckabee campaigned with Democrats and hurt the Arkansas GOP, which hurt conservatism in that state. He smeared Arkansas Republicans as “Shiite Republicans.” He raised taxes rather than cut spending when confronted with that choice. He pushed a bill to grant in-state tuition to illegal aliens. He would close Gitmo and move the terrorists there to US soil, which is the same position that the ACLU promotes. He’s an Obama supporter’s choice to make trouble for other GOP candidates in the Michigan primary.
The guy may be nice and he may be a good, humorous speaker, but as far as I can tell he’s no conservative.
Update: David Sanders emails with more Democrats that Huckabee assisted.
In 2002, Rep. Bobby Glover, D, over Rep. Randy Minton, R, in a state senate race.
In 2000, He campaigned for Barbara Horn, D, in a Dem. primary against Dennis Young, D, and Spencer Plumlee, R, dropped out because Huck didn’t support him.
Huckabee says he wants to change the Republican party. Running with Democrats isn’t the way to do that.
Update: Dan Riehl looks at the possible roots of “Shiite Republican” slurs.
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First!
The guy may be nice and he may be a good, humorous speaker, but as far as I can tell he’s no conservative.
10-4 on that!
dean_acheson on January 10, 2008 at 12:06 PM
With everything blogs, online news, and talk radio has revealed about Huckabee I am at a loss as to how he still surfs so well in polls. He seems bullet proof to the general public. Do they only watch MSM T.V.? Cuz they are the only ones ignoring his stupidity and propping him up.
Jay on January 10, 2008 at 12:07 PM
So who does that leave who is a true conservative?
FRED ! FRED ! FRED !
OBX Pete on January 10, 2008 at 12:08 PM
I’m absolutely shocked–SHOCKED!–that Huckabee knows about Islam to call anyone a “Shiite”.
Seriously though, Bryan, you are absolutely right about Huckabee being instinctively liberal. He adopts the left’s rhetoric, buys into the notion that their side is the “compassionate” one, and he always veers left.
It’s just a fact that Huckabee is running in the wrong primary. He is a pro-life Democrat and a much better fit with those statists.
Nessuno on January 10, 2008 at 12:08 PM
One would think we would see some damage by now as much of an influence Rush is supposed to be. I just don’t get it.
Jay on January 10, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Let’s not forget that the Arkansas Republican Assembly Endorsed Fred Thompson OVER Their Own Former Governor Huckabee 80% for Fred! 4% for Huck. They know Huck best.
kerrhome on January 10, 2008 at 12:11 PM
All of this conservative/non-conservative diagnosis is getting a bit tired. The Republican Party is not the “Conservative Party”, it is a majority conservative party with not-insignificant moderate and liberal factions, with lines blurred based on which set of issues are being considered. On the issues that many consider important, Republican primary and caucus voters are finding enough agreement with Huckabee to vote for him. If you want to oppose him, attack him on specific issues, rather than labeling him “not conservative” based on perceived heterodoxies based on who he associates himself with. The latter tactic isn’t working, and will continue not working. Remember, the definition of the word “conservative”, in a political sense, is very subjective. Any attempts by pundits or talk radio hosts to excommunicate Huck supporters will backfire on those self-appointed arbiters of conservative identity.
Big S on January 10, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Its bad enough that Conservatives might have to vote for McCain…but this guy stinks far worse and there’s no way I can vote for him.
Leonidas Hoplite on January 10, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Maybe Rush ain’t as influential as HE thinks he is !
OBX Pete on January 10, 2008 at 12:13 PM
Here he is folks: Our version of Jimmy Carter.
Big Orange on January 10, 2008 at 12:13 PM
How can anyone with a brain vote for this douchebag? The Huckster is the absolute worst Republican candidate I can recall. I honestly think I would vote for Ron Paul or Alan Keyes over the Huckster.
And if he does get the nomination, I might abstain from voting in the general election. I absolutely cannot stand this clown.
It’s time to rally around FRED THOMPSON! http://www.fred08.com
bigred on January 10, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Time for another HA poll. Huck vs Obama vs stay at home.
a capella on January 10, 2008 at 12:16 PM
Anybody have any details on Huckabee’s signing up for “gift” registries at various Arkansas stores when he was governor? I’ve seen some brief mentions of this in articles about his many ethical lapses during his tenure as governor, but I’d like to know more.
AZCoyote on January 10, 2008 at 12:16 PM
“Shi’ite” Republicans???
Nice play on words there, Huck.
AlexB on January 10, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Fantastic.
Vote here if you like or don’t like Mike Huckabee.
Vote for the least liked republican candidate.
Mcguyver on January 10, 2008 at 12:17 PM
There is nothing that makes conservatives madder than when a “so called conservative” uses the rhetoric of the liberals. Huckabee does it when he calls conservatives “Shiite Republicans”, he does it when he calls Bush’s foreign policy “arrogant”, and he does he when he says it was right to give scholarships to the children of illegals because “he cares for children”
Wake up Huckabee voters! Huckabee is no conservative, quite the opposite.
poljunkie on January 10, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Only Jimmy Carter did what the libs wanted him to do.
Huckster on the other hand…
Yitzchokm on January 10, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Is Mr. Huckabee a conservative antichrist? Is he someone who pretends to be in favor of conservative principles, but in reality is a liberal who wants to grow government?
I think the answer to both questions is “YES”.
Troy Rasmussen on January 10, 2008 at 12:18 PM
He isn’t as influential as he, or his boosters, would like to think. His listeners are not stupid; they’ll make up their own minds, and will tune him out if they think he’s going a little too far with the Huck-bashing. I’m sure most Rush listeners consider his show more a source of entertainment than a place to get their marching orders for the next election.
Big S on January 10, 2008 at 12:18 PM
HUCKASCHMUCK!
Say, did anyone see a Townhall.com editorial today by Michael Medved, where he implores conservatives to stop attacking RINOs (he mentions Huckabee by name)?
I’ll e-mail it to you guys, Bryan, just in case…
Frozen Tex on January 10, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Huckabee is a Shi’ite Republican, minus an i, an e, and an apostrophe.
So we can now add base level degenerate to religious demagogue and corrupt shyster.
BKennedy on January 10, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Speaking of Shiites…
Happy Islamic New Year, everyone! We’re gonna have to get used to that, if we’re not careful…
Frozen Tex on January 10, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Um…No.
It’s time to get serious. If we are serious about defeating Huckabee (and McCain) we need to coalesce around the candidate who has the best chance of beating them.
At this point, “real conservatives” are throwing their votes away on Fred, letting Huckabee and McCain sail away with this thing.
Nessuno on January 10, 2008 at 12:20 PM
I’m confused. Do some Republicans in Arkansas pray for the return of the 12 Imam? Do they celebrate Ashura (which, by the way, begins on 1/18, the day before the SC primary)?
What a bizarre slur. Why not call them Zorastrian Republicans? How about Aum Shinrikyo repubicans? Maybe Hutu Republicans (or is that a little suspect)? Or just go all the way and scream “Heretics! Burn the heretics!”
Vote Sauron 08 on January 10, 2008 at 12:20 PM
No its not…you and all other Huck supporters would like to redefine conservatism. Good luck with that. Conservatism is what it is, you cant change the definition. Being a baptist minister and liberal on everything else doesnt make you a conservative. Huck is one candidate that I will not just stay home, but may even vote for a Dem.
broker1 on January 10, 2008 at 12:21 PM
New Rasmussen poll has Hucky 2nd in SC behind Amnesty McCain. Thompsn? 4th…(and surging?)
Take it for what it’s worth.
SouthernGent on January 10, 2008 at 12:21 PM
Is Big S a troll? Perhaps we should have an informal poll…
Leonidas Hoplite on January 10, 2008 at 12:21 PM
I’m a big fan of Rush’s show, but it, like the blogosphere, is an echo chamber. People listen to Rush to have him confirm their beliefs. If they’ve already made up their minds that bashing gays is more important than fiscal responsibility, or whatever it is that drew them to Huckabee, they will only resent Rush for contradicting them, they will not change their minds.
joewm315 on January 10, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Until and unless Huckabee is seen as a front-runner, or as a major contender about to be put to a final test, his voters will continue to give him the benefit of the doubt, and will be satisfied in the meantime to feel themselves symbolically heard and seen through him. Many Christians are just glad to see him in place of the negative Christian stereotypes that populate the mass media. Other actual or potential Republican voters, whose exposure to the race may amount to a few snippets of a debate or debate coverage, or political ads in primary states, just react positively to him.
If he continues to rise, the scrutiny will intensify, and the battlefield-prep done by Rush and his lesser peers in the media including the internet will begin to take effect.
CK MacLeod on January 10, 2008 at 12:22 PM
…does just what the libs want him to do.
Big Orange on January 10, 2008 at 12:23 PM
No
Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Bryan you’re being far too kind. When he isn’t acting in the most short-term, most selfish manner, then he is being vengeful. The only thing I can assume is that some of my brothers and sisters in Christ are willing to believe any snake-oil salesman who claims to be an evangelical. If kissing asses is all it takes to be president, then…Bill Clinton would have … uh oh …
doufree on January 10, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Let the votes decide!
Love Rush. Man of the Year!
Btw, it’s not only Rush, it’s other talk show hosts as well. I.e. Mark Levin
Yitzchokm on January 10, 2008 at 12:24 PM
For a wedding shower to celebrate many years of marriage as he was leaving office. So, he and his blushing bride could furnish their new living quarters in style. I believe he also tried to make off with some furnishings from the governor’s mansion, but got caught. Very principled. Of course this was after he augmented his governor’s salary with payouts from a murky front organization which existed to create a cut out.
a capella on January 10, 2008 at 12:25 PM
Iowa and New Hampshire are hardly representative of most conservatives.
SouthernGent on January 10, 2008 at 12:25 PM
I am just not getting the inundation of the attempt at redefining conservatism by both the MSM and the current round of GOP presidential candidates. I attribute this to my sporadic exposure to media outlets because I am in college.
In any event, it is clear that Gov Huckabee is no conservative and is more, to use Miss Coulter’s tag, “a Republican Jimmy Carter”.
For all the despair that goes on among conservatives, we sure do have a great deal of power when we agree to use it. Prime examples when conservatives become motivated are Harriet Miers and the Shamnesty Bill. While the latter also involved not just conservatives, but virtually all aspects of the american political spectrum, the movement was spearheaded by conservatives.
So, in the short term, perhaps the country will have to suffer under either a president Huckabee or McCain, but after the next conservative crackdown that will certainly arise while the above are in office, we will ensure to install a true conservative in the seat of the presidency.
So fellow conservatives don’t despair, chin up, and to borrow Mrs. Malkin’s recent quip about sub-prime defaults “Suck it up.”
Weebork on January 10, 2008 at 12:25 PM
I think you are right. I sure hope so !!
OBX Pete on January 10, 2008 at 12:27 PM
I’m neither a Huck supporter or a troll. Consider me an advocate of uncertainty.
Big S on January 10, 2008 at 12:27 PM
My $.02?
Romney was elected by the people of MA, to represent their views, which he did. He never swayed from conservatism, he simply did what the people wanted. Isn’t that why we elect our government? I’ll take Romney ANY day over Mr. Clemency, Mr. “Use the taxpayer’s money as my wallet” Huckster!
But hey, what do I know? I heart Fred!
Califemme on January 10, 2008 at 12:30 PM
wake and smell the ’shiite.’
jimmer on January 10, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Oh, my mistake. At quick glance I thought the title was referring to some republican’s such as Huck, McCain, Graham, ect. using some UK English slang.
NJGOPOrphan on January 10, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Here is an article for your perusal. Hard numbers start in paragraph four.
joewm315 on January 10, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Then someone is on here posting like a Huck-a-liberal under your name. I’d check into that bro.
Big Orange on January 10, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Sounds like a plan, except we’ve heard that through many cycles, and all that happens is that mode of governance by the GOP just becomes the norm. Thus, the next batch of candidates is measured and accepted by that standard, not one that is truly conservative. It’s been going on for a long time, we continually promise ourselves, this is the last time, and b’golly it just happens again next time.
a capella on January 10, 2008 at 12:33 PM
People who want what they want, elect what is closest to their desires.
Huck is a peice of silly putty, that eventually will just either dry up and become a nasty little hard ball of a man. Or someone is going to flatten him out and transpose a copy on him of something.
I am tired of people who vote for their own personal goals and not for a common goal.
Fred will have my vote.
upinak on January 10, 2008 at 12:35 PM
It’s rather difficult to even call him “nice” if he’s running around smearing people as Shi’ite Muslims.
Tim on January 10, 2008 at 12:35 PM
I wouldn’t call him nice.
Ex-tex on January 10, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Big S,
We know that you are a Huckabee campaign implant directed to be a HA commentator.
HA is an echo chamber for real conservative values.
Your energy to promote Huck is wasted here…. go back to your phone bank now.
Bye.
Mcguyver on January 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM
I’m more liberal than probably 95% of the posters here on many issues, so you may have picked up on that. Also, I may have expressed my preference for Huckabee over some other candidate in the past. Anyway, thanks for the tip, I’ll keep my eyes open.
Big S on January 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM
Rush provides entertainment, but the information and facts he puts forth are as accurate as he can provide. Rush didn’t become so popular because he can present non-truths in entertaining ways but because he can present truths in, sometimes, entertaining ways.
Weebork on January 10, 2008 at 12:36 PM
Rudy and Fred supporters–The longer you wait to get behind Mitt Romney, the greater the chance that the liberal tag team of McCain and Huckabee will give us one of them to be our nominee.
davenp35 on January 10, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Huckabee must be stopped
Drunk Report on January 10, 2008 at 12:41 PM
a capella,
I see what you mean and I have heard others give that same sentiment. So, a thing to figure out is what was it about those events –Harriet Meirs, Jimmy Carter, Shamnesty, Contract with America, Dubai(?)– that energized and focused conservatives, giving rise to the outcomes that followed but isn’t happening at the level of presidential candidates?
I have not a clue and would like to figure it out. One day perhaps.
Weebork on January 10, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Mostly correct. Slash the “sometimes” and replace it with “always” and you’re absolutely correct.
Jockolantern on January 10, 2008 at 12:44 PM
It doesnt matter that he is he is a pro-life liberal, its not like his supporters can read. Its like “duh, he is baptist minister, praise jesus, duh, guess I will vote for im.
Next election: First primary should be in Utah.
amen
Roger Waters on January 10, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Isn’t some way we can force left loons like McCain and Huckabee to go play in the girlie men’s sandbox where they belong?
Speakup on January 10, 2008 at 12:44 PM
I’ve said it before on another blog: The only way I think the people who are voting for this schmuck change their minds is if they find out he has a wide stance.
And Bryan, my problem with Huckabee is that he is a contemptible human being. Maybe Huck and Satan are brothers? Oops, I didn’t imply anything by that, honestly.
bert169 on January 10, 2008 at 12:45 PM
No sir, the day I vote for this plastic flip-flopper will be a cold one in purgatory.
I’m a Fred supporter, but given the alternatives would take McCain over Romney any day. I’ll take somebody and something that I know, over somebody I think is lying to me anytime.
I don’t agree with alot of McCain’s stances, but he is an american hero, and not some snotty rich kid who principals are on sale for the sake of power.
dean_acheson on January 10, 2008 at 12:46 PM
From joewm’s link above.
I wonder if the Huck supporters here could explain the relative absence of Dem attacks on Huck compared to other GOP candidates. It can’t be that he is not a viable candidate, he’s got the big mo.
a capella on January 10, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Maybe, just maybe, we’d be better off losing the next one.
It seems to me we need to settle a couple of things:
(1) Are we a party of limited government conservatives or are we a party of christian socialists? A loss would force us to look inward and decide who we are and what we want in a political party and movement.
(2) Bush has animated the libs/left and has put off many, if not most, conservatives. 4 years of Her-Him or Obama will not result in the end of the republic; we’ve managed to survive 2 centuries and a civil war.
A bit of democrat incompetence in all its glory will only serve to improve our image in the minds of the electorate.
oldvannes on January 10, 2008 at 12:50 PM
If we don’t do it, the Dems will. We’re just seeing the tip of the iceberg with regards to the dirt they have on him, that the media is kindly keeping suppressed. Here’s another tasty little hit piece for all you undecideds leaning towards Huck.
If you end up casting your vote for him, don’t come crying to me when you start hearing about 1,000 dollar watches, 80,000 unreported “contributions”, contributions from drunk drivers who then received pardons, and stolen Governor’s mansion furnishings on the evening news. Educate yourself now, or take the consequences without complaint later.
joewm315 on January 10, 2008 at 12:51 PM
I agree with Oldvanns.
If we are going to have 4 years of Jimmy Carter, it is better to have a guy/gal with a D after their name rather than an R. That paves the way for the next Reagan…you know, like Mitt.
Roger Waters on January 10, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Use your head. Here’s some very important information for anyone who would ever consider voting for McCain.
davenp35 on January 10, 2008 at 12:52 PM
As much as I abhor the idea of either Hillary or Obama as president, you might be right.
Leonidas Hoplite on January 10, 2008 at 12:53 PM
As always, I’m not a Huck supporter, but I see two reasons.
1.) They perceive that he would be easy to beat in November (which is true).
2.) Why spend the money to attack him when Rush Limbaugh will do it for you?
Big S on January 10, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Huckabee delenda est.
phronesis on January 10, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Jimmy Carter slogan 1976 – “A Leader, for a Change.”
roux on January 10, 2008 at 12:54 PM
How can a guy be so self-deluded to think he can not only fool Arkansas, but the whole nation? Oh wait…
ricer1 on January 10, 2008 at 12:54 PM
He keeps pulling these stunts off and they end up not costing him anything. For some reason, when he starts on one of his I’m just one of you routines, I think of Steve Martin in The Jerk. I’m half expecting the next Chucklebee speech to start off “I was born a poor black child…” And he’d get away with it.
PowWow on January 10, 2008 at 1:03 PM
I absolutely will not vot for Huckaschmuck in the general election if he gets the repub nomination. I’ll either sit it out (more likely) or vote for Obama (as a protest vote).
Huckabee is bad mojo.
Nineball on January 10, 2008 at 1:03 PM
Ex-tex on January 10, 2008 at 1:04 PM
Dear God, please let Mitt and Fred by regular Hot Air readers.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on January 10, 2008 at 1:09 PM
While I definetely understand the sentiment, I cannot stomach an Obama vote. The man advocates infanticide, and cannot be allowed to determine the composition of the Supreme Court. If our party is dumb enough to nominate Huckabee, then he will get my vote in the general.
I still believe he can be stopped before then, though.
If not, the “I told you so’s” from myself and the Maha Rushie will be loud and long and glorious.
joewm315 on January 10, 2008 at 1:12 PM
I don’t like McCain, but if this gets to Illinois and Romney is unable to win, I’ll support him to keep the Huckster out of the running.
I find him most disagreeable. And, as often happens, the personable persona that he has cultivated is hiding the true Huckabee, a nasty little man.
Jaibones on January 10, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Pullin’ here, boss
joewm315 on January 10, 2008 at 1:12 PM
Sounds exactly like you are describing Mitt Romney. I expect a blog shortly forthcoming about Mitt Romney’s LONG liberal history on things like “doing more for gays than Ted Kennedy” and also his abortion flops, gun control flops, etc., etc.
If this “say conservative things to win approval” things TRULY concerns you, then why not start a crusade against Romney like you have unfairly launched against Huckabee?
It’s easy to attack someone when you have an agenda. But greasy Romney gets a free pass eh?
popularpolitics on January 10, 2008 at 1:13 PM
Nineball on January 10, 2008 at 1:17 PM
Oops… forgot to close tags on the quote.
Sorry about that.
Nineball on January 10, 2008 at 1:17 PM
Who would govern most like a conservative between Huckabee, McCain, and Romney? Romney! Who has brought themself in line with conservative values while Huckabee and McCain still hold on to their liberal ones? Romney! Mitt is the ONLY candidate who would govern in a conservative manner among the three top (and only electable) candidates. Now is the time for people like you to wake up. Don’t wait until Huckabee or McCain is the nominee!
davenp35 on January 10, 2008 at 1:18 PM
Hey Huckster shill, perhaps you don’t realize it now but if Romney went liberal all the time, why is it that he stemmed the tide of gay marriage in Mass as best he could? Liberals would have loved gay marriage.
Why was his veto pen on turbo? The 85% Dems in the legislature hated that.
Meanwhile, Huckster was setting up his wedding gift registry.
BKennedy on January 10, 2008 at 1:18 PM
No, he doesn’t. Romney distanced himself from comments in his past, and has taken his positions now, while Huckabee just keeps spouting off his for-the-proletariat mouth (at least he’s consistent?). That being said, you raise a good point about how we should question Romney’s positions, given his history.
We’re fooling ourselves if we think there’s a true conservative in the top tier, including Thompson. The only “one of us” running is Alan Keyes.
Which is why he’s my guy.[shameless plug]
emailnuevo on January 10, 2008 at 1:22 PM
It’s frustrating, man, and I hear ya. Let’s hope Fred will siphon off Huckabee voters in SC and finish him off. Huckabee’s boys do love the pandering, and Fred’s got his pandering boots on down there, so it’s a possibility. Fingers crossed.
joewm315 on January 10, 2008 at 1:27 PM
Once the Huckster is the nominee the media will turn on him and we will hear quotes like “Shiite Republican” applied to him until we are sick to death of the guy, and the Democrat candidate wins in a landslide. Everyone can see this coming a mile away, but Huckabee supporters don’t seem to care.
WasatchMan on January 10, 2008 at 1:28 PM
Hasn’t your guy also had a bit of trouble about dipping into campaign cash for personal use. Oh, and how keeping his word about maintaining residency in IL after his first laugher against Obama? No thanks, we have enough sleaze already.
a capella on January 10, 2008 at 1:37 PM
Rush is trashing Huckabee and McCain again (as he should). It’s pretty funny actually…
davenp35 on January 10, 2008 at 1:40 PM
My head hurts.
Why is Huck even running as a GOP nominee in the first place?
PolitiNOOB on January 10, 2008 at 1:41 PM
Bryan, you’re not conservative. You’re ultra-conservative. Huckabee is conservative, but just not conservative enough for the folks that now believe themselves to be main-stream conservatives (right wingers.) Basically, what I think is happening is that the true middle of the conservative movement, the group that would likely include most Christians, has become dissatisfied with the voices in the Republican Party, including people such as Rush, Michelle, and Ann. They have too many negative opinions and they don’t allow for any other thought – it’s not fun anymore.
I’ve said it on many occasions that the conservatives are loosing their voice by being this way. Just as Moveon.org, code pink and the Kos have lost their voices, so will the extreme right. People are just sick of the type of one-sidedness that this rhetoric represents.
And gaining voice as a result? People who cross lines. Obama. Huckabee. Those are the two who will be running in November. Decide which one you can best live with.
Wise Golden on January 10, 2008 at 1:47 PM
I fear the Huckster is unstoppable. Plain and simple this guy just looks and sounds too damn likeable on camera. He’s charming, fun, funny, and dont forget guys, he plays the gEEtar. Those who are not political-dorks and dont read blogs all day(you and me) are gonna watch him on tv and fall in love, and the evangelicals are already in his camp. Im a huge Romney fan, but I dont think he’s likeable enough on camera to turn the tide. I think it’s Between McCain and Huckster. As sad as that may be.
The Hayekian on January 10, 2008 at 1:58 PM
IT IS THE SAME REASON OBAMA IS GETTING A FREE RIDE, THE PRESS ARE NOT DOING THEIR JOB.
KBird on January 10, 2008 at 2:00 PM
I knew this would happen…Mitt is starting to look good now that he has been hammered and the flotsam has floated to the top.
jawbone on January 10, 2008 at 2:00 PM
I don’t understand why being against gitmo is equated to not being a conservative. You could be for the closing of gitmo for many reasons. I don’t think gitmo per se is a conservative/liberal issue.
mycowardice on January 10, 2008 at 2:00 PM
I try not to engage in ad hominem attacks, but you have got to be out of your mind. Fiscal conservatism comes before all other types, because it encompasses free market ideals like personal freedom and personal responsibility. If someone is socially conservative but also loves socialism, they are NOT conservative! They are just religious or moralistic socialists. Some social cons are screwing things up right now because they are buying into this government control over every aspect of our lives. I know I would rather jettison uneducated fools like that and suffer in the short term than see the very notion of conservatism be outright destroyed.
davenp35 on January 10, 2008 at 2:01 PM
I went looking and so far is the earliest I can find of Huckster using the term “Shiite Republicans”. This is from an article in the Arkansas Democrat Gazette from June 2005.
Aren’t these the type of people he now considers his base?
Go Fred! It is hammer time!
Just A Grunt on January 10, 2008 at 2:03 PM
“Shiite Republican…” oh good, I was beginning to feel that being called a Neocon was sooo last century.
Does this mean that I have to go learn that ululation war-cry that they do in the Arab world?
What about slogans?
“There is no true conservative but Allahpundit and See-Dubya is his prophet?”
/yells the new ululation conservative war-cry with his fist in the air
Sorry, Bryan, I couldn’t resist.
Huckabee = putz. And to think the only thing I really had against him two weeks ago was his stupid article in Foreign Affairs.
Anton on January 10, 2008 at 2:05 PM
Confirmed. I read you 5 X 5.
As I mentioned in another post, he USES his Christianity, (”but wait, I am a Christian!”). A freaking TV Preacher. I see above “Snake Oil Salesman”. Exactly.
Really bad Catholic (TM) – out.
juanito on January 10, 2008 at 2:11 PM
Huck is an American tragedy: a snake oil salesman able to fool millions of gullible people by being vocal about his Christian beliefs and having a sense of humor. He is a magician who uses shiny objects to distract from the truth.
Igor R. on January 10, 2008 at 2:12 PM
Nice people don’t call their supporters or fellow party members “Shiite Republicans.”
They don’t call their critics un-Christian and un-American.
Huckabee is not a nice person.
funky chicken on January 10, 2008 at 2:14 PM
Isn’t there an old country church out there somewhere in Arkansas that’s in search of a poorly educated, ill-bred preacher? If so, can we send the want-ad to Huck and get him and his animal-abusing, porn-addicted offspring out of the spotlight? Thanks.
Gartrip on January 10, 2008 at 2:15 PM
Wise Golden on January 10, 2008 at 1:47 PM
If you think Obama has crossed partisan lines, there is no way to reach you. But I’ll try anyway. Obama is a radical follower of the famous radical Saul Alinsky picked out from obscurity by Soros who financed his Senate campaign. McCain sponsoring bills with a Obama is a testament to where McCain really stands, not Obama.
Igor R. on January 10, 2008 at 2:18 PM
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