Debate Highlights: Fred takes Huck to the woodshed; Update: Fred on “virgins”; Update: Stalking horse?
posted at 9:49 pm on January 10, 2008 by Bryan
Who wants some piping hot Fred? Here he is taking Mike Huckabee to task for his campaign manager suggesting that the Reagan coalition is dead. Fred then goes on to hammer Huckabee’s liberal tendencies.
Update (AP): Here’s the obligatory “virgins” one-liner re: the momentary naval standoff this week in the Straits of Hormuz.
Update (AP): Enjoy the attack on Huck, but I hasten to remind you that it’s not Huck who’s ahead right now in SC. If Fred’s unwilling to attack McCain too then he’s not really trying to win, he’s simply trying to take Huck down. Which benefits … McCain.
Update (AP): I’m not accusing Fred of being a stalking horse in intent but in fact. If he won’t attack McCain then he’s forfeiting an opportunity to vault past him.
Update (AP): Some of the commenters are wondering why I think Fred helped McCain tonight by attacking Huckabee after saying a few days ago that he’s probably hurting Mac more than Huck by staying in the race. Answer: The two aren’t mutually exclusive. If he dropped out tomorrow, I think McCain would benefit since the ‘Heads are slightly more likely to break towards the war candidate than the values candidate (I think). By attacking Huck tonight, though, Fred presumably peeled away a few of Huck’s own supporters. It doesn’t really matter where they go since they’ll only amount to a few percent and McCain leads both Mitt and Fred by double digits. It’s a net benefit to him that Huckabee loses supporters, period, even if he loses them to Fred.
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I liked it! More Fred!
JellyToast on January 11, 2008 at 7:45 AM
Human Events just gave Fred their endorsement and after reading their reasoning, I agree Fred is the best choice. While I doubt Freds conviction on the tough issues, I’m fully convinced the other candidates have no conviction at all. Fred gets my vote.
Maxx on January 11, 2008 at 7:59 AM
One thing at a time, one person at a time, one play at a time. Take Huck out, take Mitt out, McCain will take himself out. You don’t go into a debate with a flame thrower, you use precision, and his target was Huck. Next it will be McCain, and Mitt and Rudy are on the sidelines, the kids looking through the fence wishing they could play.
right2bright on January 11, 2008 at 8:19 AM
Was Human Events the BIG CONSERVATIVE endorsement Fred was getting today??? ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz What’s that good for like .1 vote?
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on January 11, 2008 at 8:21 AM
I hope Human Events wasn’t ‘it’.
Darksean on January 11, 2008 at 8:27 AM
It’s not surprising that McCain’s ahead in Lindsey Graham’s state. I would have expected southerners to be more conservative than that. McCain and Huckabee belong in the Democrat party. They would probably be frontrunners there.
orlandocajun on January 11, 2008 at 8:28 AM
I am for Fred 100%. I have thought him to be the only true conservative in the field all along, and I am glad to see him taking the measures necessary to ensure the American people know that. Regardless of how much this hurts Huck or helps Mac, it ultimately helps Fred as well. I don’t think Fred is a stalking horse, I think he is a sleeping horse. Once the true conservatives of this country begin to open their eyes and see how he clearly is the best conservative choice, the tides will turn.
BackseatDriver on January 11, 2008 at 8:30 AM
The RWN poll link above
Which candidate would you like to be president:
FRED WINS EVERY TIME.
As per speculation, too much inflation ruins us all except for the untouchables. Prophets claiming to know which candidate will win conjure the crystal ball and speak the paid message. Harping on who will win is misdirecting energy from America’s conservative movement.
We can count on FRED!
maverick muse on January 11, 2008 at 8:33 AM
It seems that McCain’s poll numbers started to rise right after his campaign went bankrupt and the liberal media decided to give up on him and back a different horse.
The more exposure McCain gets, the less support he has. Turns out that the being a war hero schtick only works when you also act HUMBLE. And McCain can’t do that with his mouth open.
logis on January 11, 2008 at 8:33 AM
BTW, who was that little man in the corner…wait, that was Mitt, a little overwhelmed…
right2bright on January 11, 2008 at 8:35 AM
Rush, Ingraham, Hannity and Savage agree that speculating who will win is inappropriate for public discourse, that we should focus our debate strictly on our specific GOP candidate platform and record to determine who will best lead our nation.
If anything should CHANGE, let that be our primary process.
maverick muse on January 11, 2008 at 8:41 AM
No convictions at all? I find that just a little bit hard to believe.
Seriously, has anybody ever run a rap sheet on Ron Paul?
logis on January 11, 2008 at 8:41 AM
right2bright on January 11, 2008 at 8:19 AM
I think you are right and that Fred’s strategy works.
maverick muse on January 11, 2008 at 8:44 AM
logis on January 11, 2008 at 8:41 AM
Ace of Spades HQ has Paul’s rap sheet
http://ace.mu.nu/
maverick muse on January 11, 2008 at 8:47 AM
OH YEAH BABY!
Ex-tex on January 11, 2008 at 8:52 AM
If Sean Hannity is saying that, it’s new. He used to be all gung-ho with his idiotic theory on how Giuliani could corner the electoral map by winning key states. That’s the kind of thing a campaign team looks at once when they pick a running mate, and once more two weeks before the election. Relying on that two YEARS before the election is a step below reading goat entrails on the common sense scale.
But people always seem to forget how moronic all the pundits’ predictions were last month. As long as you only listen to the very most recent “predictions” they make (including the time up to and after the fact) they always seem so very brilliant.
Anyway, that’s the one good thing about a candidate’s “inevitability:” it’s an easy bubble to pop.
logis on January 11, 2008 at 8:57 AM
Couple of problems with that… McCain basically switched places with Huckabee in SC after getting a bump from New Hampshire. That’s to be expected. The thing about Mac’s support is that it is soft(less than 50%) and will decline after Michigan and Nevada.
Back to Michigan… Fred! ain’t there, so this was the time and the place because… Huck’s edging Mittens with Mac in third right now. If Huck wins in Michigan, it is game over, and not just for Fred!…
Ceterum censeo Fred! esse desumo !!!
elgeneralisimo on January 11, 2008 at 8:57 AM
You guys must be new to the Big Tent. Not to know the influence of Human Events is telling. In my opinion, Human Events (Ronald Reagan’s favorite newspaper) has more sway with the RIGHT than the New York Times has on the LEFT. Pretty big endorsement.
Maxx on January 11, 2008 at 9:16 AM
Some reactions to Fred’s performance in the debate last night from around the media, courtesy of the Thompson campaign:
“Could that be the sound of Thompson bouncing?” (Slate.com, 01/10)
“Fred was on a roll.” (Politico.com, 01/10)
“Fred drops a daisy cutter on Huck.” (Politico.com, 01/10)
“Thompson Roars…Mr. Thompson comes in swiftly and sharply to this discussion and blasts Mr. Huckabee.” (New York Times Blog, 01/10)
“Fred Thompson came to play tonight… he’s scoring some points tonight.” (ABCnews.com 01/10)
“Thompson took off after Huckabee.” (USAtoday.com, 01/10)
“Mr. Thompson is out-toughing his rivals tonight on illegal immigration.” (New York Times Blog, 01/10)
“He’s laying the smack down, that’s for sure. Fred is about South Carolina, and made it clear who his target is.” (msnbc.msn.com, 01/10)
“Mr. Thompson draws the biggest applause of the night so far with his litany of accusations against Mr. Huckabee, including the charge that he is basically a Democrat.” (New York Times Blog, 01/10)
“This is a fine, fine performance by Fred Thompson.” (ABCnews.com 01/10)
“Thompson Goes After Huck…Thompson’s offensive gets audience cheers.” (TheAtlantic.com, 01/10)
“The guy is showing himself, of late, to be a fairly decent debater. This little rant against Huckabee was strong.” (msnbc.msn.com, 01/10)
wccawa on January 11, 2008 at 9:16 AM
If you put Fred against Hillary, in the final analysis there’s no question who the public would choose for their president.
Go Fred.
Ernest on January 11, 2008 at 9:23 AM
If only his debate performance would translate into actual votes. This doesn’t seem too likely to happen.
fossten on January 11, 2008 at 9:38 AM
A damned river during flood season needs to release overflow. Cut illegal aliens off from our apron strings. They have benefitted long enough to go home with their pirate booty and develop their own country–they are EDUCATED. Open the chutes and deport the illegal aliens.
Mitt tried to mimic Fred’s stance, but the compassionate RINO financial executive said he would not deport anyone prior to a case by case individual study per illegal alien! This compassionate conservative role needs isolation and termination as it destroys our entire body like cancer.
Goliath had his soft spot, as did Achilles. No matter how big and strong, one’s guard must be effective at all times.
The ever reliable Fred made clear that Mitt would just bring about another legalise boondoggling impedement preventing our IMMEDIATE response to halt this threatening economic and socio-political sabotage to our national security.
Think how much FURTHER our courts would be overwhelmed with Mitt, chief compassionate executive, granting each demand from each illegal alien, granting non-citizens full citizen rights across the board. Mitt would have to create more government agencies, ENLARGING our tax burden, economic downfall, causing further lack of government response to citizens. One wonders, in each post that posterboy Mitt held, who did his thinking and his work for him?
At the horrendous expense paid by citizens in dire straits, what will Mitt’s compassion for illegal aliens leave for citizens during a Depression?
Mitt’s series of promises are too convoluted.
Fred hits the target straight on platform.
maverick muse on January 11, 2008 at 9:40 AM
What are the odds that if nominated, McCain would choose Huckabee for his running mate?
Go here to vote your opinion: http://www.mccainhuckabee08.blogspot.com
Mcguyver on January 11, 2008 at 9:54 AM
I like it. Copyright it and let ‘er rip!
RushBaby on January 11, 2008 at 9:56 AM
Bingo. McCain looked very good last night (that is not an endorsement!). Fred needs a two-pronged attack, but I wonder if his personal friendship with Johnny Mac impedes him. Time is of the essence here.
Are you sure your name isn’t Moonbat Muse?
Buy Danish on January 11, 2008 at 10:00 AM
lol. Confused Tancredo, did they?
Spirit of 1776 on January 11, 2008 at 10:01 AM
Well, if anybody noticed Fred also attached McCain on immigration.
I was kinda shocked, and I’m for Fred.
That decision was certainly made more than a few days ago. I’m sure that FDT didn’t want to do it, but knew that he had to.
Notice that Bryan?
dean_acheson on January 11, 2008 at 10:01 AM
And Sheriff Joe is hopelessly confused too. Hillary is the only one who was confused but isn’t anymore:
“I think we’re slipping toward a recession,” she said. “A couple of people that I met on the street, they work in construction. They tell me it’s slowed down.”
And -“People know that Hillary is the best choice for real,” he said. “They try to confuse the workers, but the workers are smarter.”
Buy Danish on January 11, 2008 at 10:19 AM
I couldn’t have said it better myself. Good call.
Now consider this. . .what about the diversity vote? Based solely on the superficial and somewhat ignorant state of the vast majority of Americans of voting age, they are more likely to vote for a minority for reasons of proving self worth in civil morality. This is a HUGE problem for Republicans because our entire field of potential candidates are middle-aged white men of affluence. This fact alone makes diversity a major issue for GOP “electability” in November.
Bottom line: we need an element of diversity on the ballot in November regardless of who the Presidential nominee is – Michael Steele, Colin Powell, or Condolezza Rice as VP would get a conservative and a minority into the White House and satisfy the “shiny-happy-people” civil liberties voters in this country.
We must cater to the hippies – at least in the most superficial way – if we’re going to have a shot at the White House.
Thompson/Rice for President, 2008!
bizznatch14 on January 11, 2008 at 11:05 AM
Once Fred takes out Huck, Mitt will get back to exposing McCain for the amnesty shill that he is. Be patient.
csdeven on January 11, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Is that a little bit of Fred light I see shining on you Cs? Huh? You even called him “Fred.”
Gregor on January 11, 2008 at 11:19 AM
“Once Fred takes out Huck, Mitt will get back…”
See Mitt get, ever the coat-tail usurper of other’s glory. If Mitt had the makings of the finest chief executive, he wouldn’t be so indebted to Fred’s leadership. Mitt resembles a paperdoll posterboy hankering to actually BE Fred.
maverick muse on January 11, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Don’t think for a second that Fred is done with Huckabee!
Furthermore, he’s not even begun to work on McCain!
Go Fred! Go!!!!!!!
Oink on January 11, 2008 at 11:33 AM
Laura Ingraham broadcasted parts of the Kerry-Obama love fest this morning during which they actually announced their promise to blast everything to pieces in order to change our government. There go the Constitution and Bill of Rights. They want to re-discover the wheel claiming their invention will be better than America’s Founding Fathers.
There is no way that Mitt would defeat either Hillary or Obama as Fred will.
FRED!
maverick muse on January 11, 2008 at 11:37 AM
The Fred! I’ve been waiting for… Better late than never I guess.
Swinehound on January 11, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Iranian Navy provocation?? What Iranian Navy provocation?
US Navy threat may not have been Iranian
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23036718-5005961,00.html
Iran airs its own video of Gulf incident:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-01-10-iran-us-navy_N.htm
Official Version of Naval Incident Starts to Unravel
http://www.antiwar.com/porter/?articleid=12191
Paul was right….just another contrived ploy to get us into another war by the neocons!
Fed Up on January 11, 2008 at 11:49 AM
Yeah, I’m sure Mitt is jealous of Fred’s brilliant campaign strategy in which he begs his loyal Fredheads for money and barely scratches by his benchmarks.
I’m also sure Mitt is jealous of his leadership as a principal with the hots for Rosanne Barr, a naval commander, and doing Rudy’s Job of DA.
Mitt is also probably jealous of Fred’s stunning good looks and flowing lockes of hair.
And of Fred’s personal success as a pay-for-play lobbyist, lawyer, and do-nothing Senator.
He is also jealous of Fred’s church attendance, skirt chasing tendencies, and marital history.
Please maverick muse, you mindless Fredhead, get over your hero worship. It isn’t healthy.
BKennedy on January 11, 2008 at 11:51 AM
I see you’ve been reading Armageddonjad’s press releases too.
Do you remember to check his weekly radio address, you know, the one where he calls for the destruction of Israel every week?
BKennedy on January 11, 2008 at 11:52 AM
Moron! He’s simply saying the “radio transmission could have come from another ship or somewhere on shore. He did not say the attack was not Iranian.
Try reading the entire article and not just the first line.
Good God! Get a grip!
Gregor on January 11, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Fred Up,
Any “Official version unravels” links NOT from an anti-war site? (I know, it’s a lot to ask…)
deesine on January 11, 2008 at 11:58 AM
Holy crap! Leadership? What has Fred ever led? A senate committee? Committee chairs are glorified referees at best. Talking heads that leave it to others to make the decisions.
Yelling “FRED!!!” doesn’t make it a fact.
csdeven on January 11, 2008 at 12:07 PM
FRED!!! kicked azz in the debate last night. I was hoping he’d get fired up and he gave me exactly what I needed to see. I’ll be voting for him on Jan 19th.
MechEng5by5 on January 11, 2008 at 12:19 PM
O YES WE CAN…..& THAT!!! IS THE POINT.
remember, up to now….“everything you know is wrong!”
.
& to the Left & the ‘meatballs’…
.
‘You are a fluke of the Universe
you have NO right to be here
& weither you can hear it or NOT!
the Universe
is laughing behind your back!’
.
America, Wake the FK up….this is very serious!!!
& there is more @ stake than your vain desire for your ‘ team to win.
GO FRED!!! FKng GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lobosan5 on January 11, 2008 at 12:37 PM
What, the USA Today not good enough for ya? An international paper (Australia’s Herald Sun) is “anti-war?”
Good grief!
Fed Up on January 11, 2008 at 12:38 PM
When I find the video, I’ll post it so you can see how Gilligan’s “SS Minnow” was trying to attack 3 U.S. Navy ships.
and here’s some more “anti-war” versions of the story:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0111/p99s01-duts.html
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hiAbsRG9E-8-NncKn6AqbyYZd09QD8U383102
“An Iranian Revolutionary Guard officer on a small Iranian craft is seen in the foreground with what purportedly shows U.S. naval ships in the background in this image taken from
TV Thursday Jan. 10, 2008. Iranian state TV aired video Thursday purporting to show a weekend standoff between small Iranian boats and U.S. naval ships in the Persian Gulf/ The grainy 5-minute, 20-second video without sound or narration showed a man speaking into a handheld radio, with three U.S. ships floating in the distance. It appeared to be shot from a small boat bobbing at least 100 meters (yards) from the American vessels. (AP Photo/Press TV via AP Television)”
Fed Up on January 11, 2008 at 12:44 PM
& before the sht hits the fan
look….I’m frkng broke…
but I put my money where my mouth is!
.
when I was a young, stupid Hippy
I thought Reagan was …you know…the blackhole of death!
.
then I got a life……replete w/bills to be paid.
.
This is the election that decides the FUTURE of AMERICA!!
‘No One Compares to’ FRED!
signed: lowly musician, but I like my freedom!
lobosan5 on January 11, 2008 at 12:46 PM
If Fred wins, you know he’ll have an actual woodshed built behind the White House to take his opponents to.
saint kansas on January 11, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Mitt was on replay last night. HA members have already noted Mitt’s lame attempts to imitate Fred’s character and conservative integrity.
Mitt is a bankrolled prop for the powers that made him. Mitt’s achievements belong to those who accomplished his assignments for him. Mitt is a pretty pencil pusher.
Fred is his own man and the true leader of America’s conservative movement today.
maverick muse on January 11, 2008 at 12:48 PM
YEAH BABY…….GO FRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lobosan5 on January 11, 2008 at 12:51 PM
“Talking heads that leave it to others to make the decisions”
blathering from a brainwashed boy who falls back on propaganda sales articles to cover the abominations behind curtain #1, curtain #2, curtain #3.
LOL!
maverick muse on January 11, 2008 at 12:53 PM
Fred has led on his white papers, most of the other candidates have copied most of Fred’s conservative views. The less a senator has done, the better job they have done. The most active senators have been the ones that have passed the most bills…and most bills do not favor conservatives.
This idea of a senator is only a good senator if he has passed bills is foolish…the less the better. He has taken action, when action was needed.
right2bright on January 11, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Except that the stories you posted did NOT back up your claim, as I pointed out earlier. They actually verified that the boats were Iranian.
What’s your point? That the boats were small?
You do recall the U.S.S. Cole, correct?
Go away tool. You’re making us sick.
Gregor on January 11, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Reagan’s view of governments’s role supports LESS than more interference in our lives.
RINOs who pile on the BS compassionate complications need to haul their own load without impersonating conservatism.
It is no surprise to hear Mitt’ns deny fact and ignore record in favor of sales propaganda. “New and Improved” is a stale slogan and “Change” to facilitate further encumbrance is no better.
Support the conservative platform with Fred!
maverick muse on January 11, 2008 at 1:11 PM
You are not alone. Some of the most radical 60′s leaders are now conservative…David Horowitz is a perfect example.
The real Democrat party, the one of the 50 and 60′s, wasn’t so bad…but they left their members for a more radical and leftest agenda.
People like Tammy Bruce had no choice but move towards the Republican party.
right2bright on January 11, 2008 at 1:13 PM
Go away tool. You’re making us sick.
Gregor on January 11, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Can’t handle the truth Gregor?
Yes, the boats were small and the U.S. Navy could have erased any threat if necessary. Are you saying they couldn’t? Did they? Why not? Because it never was a threat.
The U.S. Cole was docked. Good grief. http://whatreallyhappened.com/COLE/
Fed Up on January 11, 2008 at 1:14 PM
FRED!!!!
Seriously though, within a week of being elected to the Senate, he was chosen by his peers to give the rebuttal to the Presiden’t State of the Union. He forced the first vote on term limits in the Senate in decades. He fought mismanagement in the federal agencies from his committee chair. A Senate press release (not affiliated with Thompson’s office)said his efforts saved taxpayers more than $2 billion in 2005-06 alone at the Department of Health and Human Services.
He was a leader on the three tax cut bills passed by Congress during his tenure.
He has always been a man of great ideas for how to better manage our budget and cut waste. You really should read “Government on the Brink” if you get a chance. (That’s a PDF file in the link)
Fred’s time on the Senate Intelligence Committee gave him insight into the world we live in, and he has acted on them. He opposed the naive, wide-open nature of the free-trade agreement with China that Clinton touted so much, and fought for amendments that would have given us greater protection against the aggression we are now seeing from that corner.
A Senator is one among many, but Fred certainly stood out from the pack.
joewm315 on January 11, 2008 at 1:21 PM
Yeah, that’s it. You got me. Go wake up Grandma and have her fix you some oatmeal. Once grandpa Paul is officially out of this race you can go back to playing video games and smoking weed.
Gregor on January 11, 2008 at 1:29 PM
One of highlights of the conference was Paul’s–Huh? statement.
All of the other men were praising passivity, and Paul was ranting about Rosie’s Gulf of Tonkin…when called on it, Paul’s response…Huh? I didn’t hear…
What a pathetic fool, and the fools who follow him are even more pathetic.
right2bright on January 11, 2008 at 1:36 PM
I understand all that. But Fred has never run anything remotely close to a government. Understanding and explaining conservative principles is very easy when done in the vacuum of debating ideas. When you have been an executive you understand how policies work in the real world, and will have views that reflect real world experience. IMO.
csdeven on January 11, 2008 at 1:37 PM
His views are very workable, in my view.
A flat tax is a great idea. It encourages upward economic movement. It is workable because of it’s simplicity: cutting through decades of accumulated red tape.
Cutting the corporate tax, which he was the first candidate to talk about, is an even better idea. Why no one else of note noticed that we have the second-highest corporate tax in the industrialized world is beyond me. Even labor unions should get behind Fred for this: we’ve been whining for years about American production jobs going overseas, but not doing naything about it. Cutting the corporate tax drastically can bring those jobs home. It is workable because of its simplicity.
Eliminating or drastically reducing earmarks is a necessity. Fred has workable ideas on this, including a line-item veto. I know some people don’t like it, but the fact is we need it. Earmarks cost us a trillion dollars this year. That money could help rebuild our military or provide tax cuts that would stimulate much-needed economic growth.
Fred’s ideas are very workable. I don’t trust someone’s ideas more because they were a governor. Janet Neapolitano, my own governor, has learned nothing about how a state runs and is constantly gumming things up. Arnold Schwarzenegger (Jeez, isn’t there an example I can cite that is easy to spell??) Has institued all kinds of crazy schemes that have hurt his state. Before him, Gray Davis nearly killed the state.
The kind of experience you have is not nearly as important as the kind of leader you are and the quality of your proposals.
joewm315 on January 11, 2008 at 1:52 PM
There is absolutely no relationship to running a business and running a government.
I have heard that for years, and I cannot find any cause/relationship between business and politics.
Carter was a successful peanut farmer, he ran his own business.
What other president was a great businessman…it is just a fallacy, they are completely different worlds.
You may as well say a great statistician can be a great leader because of his analytical skills.
Show me the great businessmen (modern in the 20th century) that became president. A haberdasher, that failed? Reagan? Carter? Ford? Clinton? Eisenhower? Roosevelt? Truman? Overseas, how about Thatcher? Churchill?
Politicians rule by consensus, great businessmen rule by opinion…theirs.
Forbes, Perot, it just doesn’t really exist, you may find one, and you would have to go back to Jefferson or Adams time.
right2bright on January 11, 2008 at 2:00 PM
Typical response…attack the poster.
That’s one powerful threat the Iranian’s have…
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4612421707178663123&q=video+of+iran+gulf+iran+tv&total=116&start=0&num=20&so=0&type=search&plindex=1
I take back my “SS Minow” comparison…
It’s more like the raft from the SS Minnow!
ay ay Captain! Load torpedo!
Fed Up on January 11, 2008 at 2:16 PM
Ron Paul would have been the perfect candidate, in the election of 1896, perhaps…..
dean_acheson on January 11, 2008 at 2:32 PM
As a Ron Paul supporter and a freak who believes every single conspiracy theory you’ve ever heard, you attack yourself. Any possible response to your comments would be taken by you as a personal attack, because the only way to respond to your nonsense is to point out how insane you are.
You obviously hate your country. You obviously feel your country is a terrorist nation. Your kind is pathetic and you should move to France where you belong.
Are you a racist too, like your hero?
Gregor on January 11, 2008 at 2:35 PM
The debate last night inspired the following article. I sent it to Rush as a birthday present. Happy Birthday, El Rushbo!
Johnny Carson,
Mighty Carnak, We Need You.
The night before the Iowa Primary, media heads predicted Democrat contenders to be neck and neck. The top three hovered around 30%, they said. In the end, the anointed one came in last and there was a ten point difference between first and second place.
The night before New Hampshire, Obama was given a 10 percent lead, over she whose name cannot be spoken. Many predicted he would dance on her grave with a blow out. The Clintons won by a couple percentage points. Media excuses were made saying that their predictions were right until sHillary cried. Yep, that’s what did it. sHillary cried and voters died.
Hillary didn’t win, Barak lost; McCain didn’t win, Barak lost.
McCain benefited from the American Idol syndrome. Independents assumed from that Obama had it sewn up. So it was safe to vote for McCain.
REMEMBER VOTERS, NO ONE IS SAFE.
Thus Romney who had been leading in New Hampshire up until about a week before the primary; it all changed after Obama won Iowa.
Now let’s review.
Media pundants’ predictions look suspiciously like chum. Each primary is the Triple Crown. The talking heads might as well be Chatty Cathy dolls, “You must watch because its going to be a real squeaker”. Pull the string, “You must watch because its going to be a real squeaker”. The predictions are meant to influence the outcome.
Therefore, using my new formula, whoever the winner in South Carolina’s primary is, it will be by about 8 points. Take the bait, turn it on its head, and mix it with some common sense. How do you like that for science? Kind of like choosing the winner of the super bowl by the colors of the uniforms. Don’t laugh, there’s been amazing luck with that.
How can party nominees be predicted based on events in which non party members are participating? Iowa voters change parties within 24 hours of the caucus start. In New Hampshire, Independents can vote anywhere they want. The purpose of this arrangement cannot be the determination of party nominees.
This will serve to pump up the leftists donations and bankrupt those who are not already well moneyed or have establishment support. If anything, the results seem only useful as a negative predictor of success. Can you say Pat Buchanan or Howard Dean?
These early primaries are port-o-potties rented to the left to allow them to pee in the conservative hot tub.
So get ready for Michigan ‘cause, you guessed it, independents can vote wherever they want. Don’t fret. No matter, Romney has more money than the Pope . He’s going to be a solid second and will hang in for the duration. Isolated individual victories will pop up like wack-a-moles, only to be smacked down by empty bank accounts.
So here’s my prediction for the Democrats; southern democrats, will vote for Obama, ABH.
So folks, after all said and done, wake me when we get to California.
HonestConservative on January 11, 2008 at 2:37 PM
Redstate is to free exchange of ideas and open debate what Mike Vick is to taking care of dogs.
MB4 on January 11, 2008 at 2:46 PM
Damn. Fred’s gas tank just hit $700,000.
Damn. That’s $100K more since this morning.
wccawa on January 11, 2008 at 2:49 PM
Imagine a small truck with fertilizer, hardly a threat, why it was a mosquito to the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. Ha, imagine the over reaction to that truck…imagine…and until you visit the site personally, you can’t imagine what a small truck of fertilizer could do…
Paul and his followers just do not understand the loss of life, the loss of families, loss of children…they would have been happy with the continued raping, torture, murdering, of tens of thousands of people…they turn their back on the parents who had to watch as dogs were released on the children tearing them to pieces, because the father spoke out against brutality…
Give it up Gregor (though it was a noble effort), sheep don’t understand death, until it has them by the throat, and they despise the sheepdog that protects them. They don’t understand who the enemy is…until they have been chosen as the victim.
right2bright on January 11, 2008 at 2:51 PM
Actually, I don’t think it’s that they don’t understand it. They simply think WE did it all ourselves. Every single bad thing that happens in the world, they believe is our fault.
They are sick people who should be hospitalized.
Gregor on January 11, 2008 at 2:56 PM
Now $710,745.
Might actually hit that $750K by midnight drive.
Not bad at all for less than 24 hours!!!
Darksean on January 11, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Fred is nothing but a liar and exposed his true self in the debate last night. He doesn’t want to win he just wants to help Juan Mccain win!
Fred: “I am against amnesty for illegals…that’s why I am happy to announce my support for Juan Mcamnesty”
Fred pulled a fast one on you fredheads…admit it.
HaraldHardrada on January 11, 2008 at 3:37 PM
I listened to Rush and he said that MSM want everyone to say, “Fred can’t win, it’s too late.” WTF!?! Two states? It’s at this point in time in 2000 that Bush cleaned McCain’s Straight Talking Bus’ clock! And he said that we need to remind people about McCain. So basically, you can’t vote for him now because he did what you want too late for you’re liking? Is this what it comes down to? He didn’t shuffle his feet and move to the beat of your song good enough? I’m not cowing to any of you people’s philosophy of ‘here today, gone tomorrow, I walk in lock step with what the polls say, I don’t have my own principals, or own mind to walk into a pollbooth and vote for what I truly believe, rather I take the path of least resistance…” BS. You wanna play poker and odds and give of your core values, that’s your business. I understand that’s what people are doing. You don’t muster up a vote for McCain in the freaking Primaries when Fred mentions Shamnesty and opposing “my friend” in regards to that bit of legislation, where we shutdown the fricking phone system at Capital Hill. You wanna have to do that sort of phone calling, faxing, and emailing every other month to get McCain to set his pen down, that’s your business too. I for one still believe in everything Reagan every said and will vote my conscience and for what is right towards those values, beliefs, and principals. It ain’t my business whether any of this sways any person’s mind. I know that I’m only responsible for me and my vote. If everyone thought the same, it might be different. It just seems everyone licks their fingers, reads the tea leaves, and does what the pollsters, or HA, or the MSM tells them is what’s gonna happen. I for one had enough of that with Clinton, ain’t interested in going there again. I have more self respect than that.
I just wish HA would find some transcripts of McCain in that debate. If you don’t like him, why not help take him out. Why wait around for the MSM or other candidates to do it? You have to have your hand held to get what you want out of the election. “Ask not what your government can do for you, but what you can do for your government..” hahaha! Because, I loved the line McCain gave about (paraphrasing)’let me give you some straight talk, the economy isn’t good, and Michigan and South Carolina have lost some jobs, and those jobs aren’t coming back, but the government will see to it that it helps you out, and I’m dedicated to that and giving money for education so that you can learn a new skill so that you don’t have to wait around for those jobs that ain’t coming back…’ NOW!! That’s an idea I can really rally behind!
Sultry Beauty on January 11, 2008 at 3:42 PM
Care to back up your claim with any examples of Fred’s lies? Or was that just a drunken slanderous attack from a troll?
Gregor on January 11, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Exactly let’s talk about Mccain saying ” I think Bill Clinton doesn’t get enough credit for his attempts at creating a palestinian(terror)state”
Or
When asked by Geraldo what he thinks about what if America becomes majority third world illegal immigrants…to which Mccain replied “I think it would be wonderful”
Let’s talk about Mccain’s support of the KLA(founded by Bin Laden) in their war against our ally serbia.
HaraldHardrada on January 11, 2008 at 4:01 PM
That’s an Obama is a Muslim, buy carbon credits, loving troll…
Sultry Beauty on January 11, 2008 at 4:02 PM
Fred is a liar because he says he is against amnesty for illegals but yet he helps Mccain win!
He was obviously not trying to win south carolina he was simply trying to help Mccain win.
Everybody knows that if Fred loses south carolina he is finished.
Since he did not go after the front runner Mcshamnesty given multiple opportunities his intentions are obvious!
HaraldHardrada on January 11, 2008 at 4:04 PM
Sultry beauty: You should watch what you say because I never said “buy carbon credits”.
You are nothing but a shameless liar!
HaraldHardrada on January 11, 2008 at 4:06 PM
Sultry beauty:
I do remember you also, you tried to get me banned because I said “Obama is a muslim” and “I think Huckabee might be our best shot at the white house”.
You’re a fascist of the worst kind.
While I may not like Mccain and Fred I would glady hear out Mccain and Fred supporters possibly even turn to their candidate if they debate me convincingly!
HaraldHardrada on January 11, 2008 at 4:12 PM
Actually, you must have missed last weeks debate when Fred embarrassed McCain by repeatedly pointing out that his plan was amnesty because the illegals get to remain in the country.
Fred has spent the last two weeks specifically pointing out that he is the ONLY person on the stage who is not a fraud. If you see that as not attacking McCain then you’re delusional.
So, using your theory, since Ron Paul hasn’t once attacked Fred, does that mean Ron Paul is purposely helping Fred win? Wake up dude.
I mean, everyone knows Paul is not going to win South Carolina, so he’s finished. Right?
Oh wait. He’s actually won both Iowa and New Hampshire, but the vote was rigged. I forgot.
Gregor on January 11, 2008 at 4:14 PM
Oh, the irony!
So, you say Fred’s a liar because he says he doesn’t support amnesty, but in your world … Huckabee is the best choice?
Classic.
Medic!
Gregor on January 11, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Huckabee does not support amnesty.
I will concede your point about Fred attacking Mccain in a prior debate.
But, Huckabee thinks we CAN actually deport all the illegals. Unlike Fred who has said it is impossible to deport all 12(40)million illegals.
HaraldHardrada on January 11, 2008 at 4:22 PM
Obviously Fred wants to be VP to Mccain imo.
Tell me what good it will do to have a VP opposed to amnesty when the president is the main proponent of amnesty!
HaraldHardrada on January 11, 2008 at 4:25 PM
Obviously, you have no idea what you’re talking about. Quit reading Allah’s Talking Points. He’s not running Thompson’s campaign.
Sultry Beauty on January 11, 2008 at 4:41 PM
I call BS. Being the executive of a company has many of the same responsibilities of running a government. It’s simple, people management is people management.
csdeven on January 11, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Where o’ where have you been Fred
SoTX on January 11, 2008 at 5:08 PM
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