Debate Highlights: Fred takes Huck to the woodshed; Update: Fred on “virgins”; Update: Stalking horse?
posted at 9:49 pm on January 10, 2008 by Bryan
Who wants some piping hot Fred? Here he is taking Mike Huckabee to task for his campaign manager suggesting that the Reagan coalition is dead. Fred then goes on to hammer Huckabee’s liberal tendencies.
Update (AP): Here’s the obligatory “virgins” one-liner re: the momentary naval standoff this week in the Straits of Hormuz.
Update (AP): Enjoy the attack on Huck, but I hasten to remind you that it’s not Huck who’s ahead right now in SC. If Fred’s unwilling to attack McCain too then he’s not really trying to win, he’s simply trying to take Huck down. Which benefits … McCain.
Update (AP): I’m not accusing Fred of being a stalking horse in intent but in fact. If he won’t attack McCain then he’s forfeiting an opportunity to vault past him.
Update (AP): Some of the commenters are wondering why I think Fred helped McCain tonight by attacking Huckabee after saying a few days ago that he’s probably hurting Mac more than Huck by staying in the race. Answer: The two aren’t mutually exclusive. If he dropped out tomorrow, I think McCain would benefit since the ‘Heads are slightly more likely to break towards the war candidate than the values candidate (I think). By attacking Huck tonight, though, Fred presumably peeled away a few of Huck’s own supporters. It doesn’t really matter where they go since they’ll only amount to a few percent and McCain leads both Mitt and Fred by double digits. It’s a net benefit to him that Huckabee loses supporters, period, even if he loses them to Fred.
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LOL I called it!!! Paul is winning poll Fox poll by 14%
broker1 on January 10, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Oops wrong thread. Time to get up from the computer.
baldilocks on January 10, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Anyone else notice Fred’s red truck fund has jumped in the past hour? Or is it just me?
matd on January 10, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Who put the vitamins in Fred Thompson’s oatmeal? We have waited for Thompson to show up on the campaign trail, and tonight he finally did. He had energy, focus, a command of detail, and a willingness to finally engage with the other candidates on the stage. He took almost everyone else aback, and seized momentum that he only occasionally relinquished.
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/
bnelson44 on January 10, 2008 at 11:17 PM
I like the split-screen; Huckaschmuck looks at Fred the way Hillary looks at Obama…
Frozen Tex on January 10, 2008 at 11:17 PM
I would agree with this, except…
I also agree with this.
Fred would clearly be the best President – that’s who I’ll vote for if I get the chance, and I will because I, too, live in California and vote absentee. But the Paulnut got way too much camera time, and McCain was unscathed and improved the delivery of his message. I fear for the ultimate result.
That being said, great job Fred – not just one liners, but real punch based in solid doctrine. You ROCK.
peski on January 10, 2008 at 11:17 PM
They made their goal
bnelson44 on January 10, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Huckabee on FOXNews just said Fred attacked him because Fred has no message and no record. Wackier and wackier
maverick muse on January 10, 2008 at 11:19 PM
He did make a point against McCain/Kennedy. However Huckster is his main competition for the conservative vote and is the easiest target. No point in trying to compete with McCain for the moderates.
Hollowpoint on January 10, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Let me repeat:
Fred would clearly be the best President.
If everyone will just vote based on the above criteria (if not my judgment), Fred has a very good chance to pull it off.
peski on January 10, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Mmmm, that’s some good Fred.
Splunge on January 10, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Red Meat!!
omnipotent on January 10, 2008 at 11:32 PM
http://www.thesitrep.com/pres.htm
Hot air voters like Fred
Fred Thompson 61.4% 78
Mitt Romney 29.1% 37
Mike Huckabee 5.5% 7
Rudy Giuliani 2.4% 3
John McCain. 1.6% 2
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TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Allah bait is on tv…sporting some good looking legs :)
lsutiger on January 10, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Second look…her legs are as white as my nerd-white legs…but she still is more cute than the definition. I wish you your dream one day Allah!
lsutiger on January 10, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Fred, you have 8 years to stop that!
Mojave Mark on January 10, 2008 at 11:43 PM
Fred! That’s all, just Fred! as in Dude
Mallard T. Drake on January 10, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Bryan, I think you are missing something. NO ONE should attack a War Hero. Period. You can “disagree”, etc, but a full fledged attack would have been VERY poorly received in SC.
You and I are both “Southerners” but you are the western kind. Fred and I are the “local” kind. SC has not only a large active military population, but the biggest retired military population in the USA. Attacking McCain would have been very very very very very poor strategy. Point out weaknesses in a way that still makes it clear you admire and respect JMc…in SC..CRITICAL to be seen not attacking a REAL HERO!
labwrs on January 10, 2008 at 11:48 PM
lol , love it!
Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate!
maybe down from over use.
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 11:50 PM
That was Allah’s update.
silverfox on January 10, 2008 at 11:52 PM
Well, I’m not a “Fred Head” really. I was eager for him to get into the race and donated some money shortly after he did. Since then I’ve been less than thrilled with his campaign, though his ideas are the ones that resonate most clearly with me. As such, I’ve been reluctant to donate money to his campaign again.
After tonight – seeing some of that steely grit I like so much – I coughed up some dough. I’m sure I’m not alone. Will it work? Is it enough? I don’t know, but I’m doing my part.
Athena on January 10, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Would anyone here object to a McCain-Thompson ticket… in principle? I know for many it’s not ideal, but could you suck it up and do it?
Vizzini on January 11, 2008 at 12:01 AM
Because we will NOT vote for an OPEN BORDERS ZEALOT like McCain. If he’s on the ticket, we’ll stay home….period!
DfDeportation on January 11, 2008 at 12:02 AM
To those who think Thompson should go after McCain, come on. He is fighting for survival in SC, not to become the front-runner. To survive, you pick off the stragglers and those whose exit will help you most. Thompson and Huckabee don’t share many positions, but Huckabee is the only other southern candidate (discounting Ron Paul…). That makes him the first target for Thompson.
Romney would be the second priority, I think, but he is not a factor in SC.
LagunaDave on January 11, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Huck is on the ropes when goes up against Fred. Fred is up 20K from what he was needing. He had better use everything above 540K to go friggin nuclear on McCain.
Fred!
RobertInAustin on January 11, 2008 at 12:04 AM
I like Fred but if the only place and people he feels comfortable with are southerners, then, no, he’s not on my list as a candidate. I’ll watch in Mich and in future northern and western states, but if he demonstrates the level of discomfort he exhibited in Iowa and NH —then he’s not a good choice for Prez.
jeanie on January 11, 2008 at 12:08 AM
I would if it were a Thompson-McCain. Meaning Thompson pres, McCain vice. That way although McCain would have some input, advisory like, but the real decider would be Fred.
MalkinFan on January 11, 2008 at 12:10 AM
If Fred takes out Huckster with the Christian Coalition types, are you really trying to sell me some snake oil that they won’t turn around and vote for Fred! but McCain. What have you guys been smoking? NH is NH. The only reason McCain is polling well is because everyone’s trying to say that Fred is too lazy to take Huck out. Why would he have to go after McCain? Read the comments. It’s not like people are endorsing McCain, they’re saying they’ll do it holding their noses. What kind of candidate is that?
Sultry Beauty on January 11, 2008 at 12:11 AM
just two days ago you posted this. whats especially interesting is the last line. fred is in it to win it, i think the talk of him trying to split the conservatives for mccain is more sabotage. like the withdrawal rumors last week.
chasdal on January 11, 2008 at 12:12 AM
FRED!!!
GO, BABY GO.
Dr. Gecko on January 11, 2008 at 12:12 AM
I saw McCain in the post show with Hannity and whats-his-name. He said he heard the people speak. He said what the people want is to secure the borders, deal with the criminal illegals and then treat the other illegals compassionately. He’s pushihg a revised amnesty. He listened to the people and heard exactly what he’d wanted to hear. He just won’t let go of amnesty so I have to let go of him. It’s frustrating and crazy making to see him try to sneak through this dishonest betrayal on so basic an issue. The more I look at his attempt to try and make us fall for this shill game the more his action reminds me of Bill Clinton.
snaggletoothie on January 11, 2008 at 12:13 AM
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Thompsunami!
innominatus on January 11, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Vote for who you think is the strongest candidate in the long run.
Mcguyver on January 11, 2008 at 12:17 AM
Speaking of virgins! The best Apache FLIR porn ever!
Egfrow on January 11, 2008 at 12:17 AM
The two candidates I will not vote for under any circumstances are McCain and Huckabee. Well, I dont list Ron Paul since I dont give him a chance in hell.
chasdal on January 11, 2008 at 12:18 AM
I’m still undecided … I don’t get to vote until “UBER TUESDAY”
(as our Governor Arnold SchwartenSchriber would say)….
but tonight (IMHO)…
Mitt – Just endless, way over rehearsed talking points.
McShame – A stale run through from his “Best of Johny Mac Stump Speech Lines” album
Huck – Nice man.
Rudy – He WAS there.
Paul from Ork – SHAZBAT!!!
Fred – The Gun Slinger … shootin from the hip and his aim was dead on. OMG … give this man more press coverage!
Chimp 6 on January 11, 2008 at 12:19 AM
I think there are some difficult conclusions that can be drawn from tonight’s debate.
Fred was the only Reaganite on the stage tonight. The rest are Faux Reagans. I know some aren’t as fond of Reagan but Reagan did build the coalition that helped resurrect the GOP.
We face a formidable Democratic nominee, whether it is Hillary or Obama (in my dreams Edwards will get the nomination) so the GOP candidate will have to inspire at least a large portion of the GOP base.
If either Huckabee or McCain gets the GOP nomination, the GOP will lose and big in 2008. The loss would most likely affect even Congress.
Giuliani and Romney might be acceptable but I simply can’t see them cementing the Big Tent back together. At just about every blog I visit, the support for either Giuliani and Romney is lukewarm. That means both will be risky as the GOP nominee.
That leaves only Fred. Of all the candidates, good or bad, he alone seems to have enough of the right stuff to bring out the GOP voters in November (especially if the Democratic nominee is Hillary). Fred would probably also bring back the “libertarian” wing of the GOP which would go a long way toward recapturing at least some of Congress.
prairiemain on January 11, 2008 at 12:20 AM
Here’s the line I wanted Fred or Mitt to deliver to McCain:
“When you say you’d deport the 2 million illegals guilty of committing crimes, does that include the identity theives who commit social security fraud? Because if I remember your plan correctly, you wanted to ensure they received social security benefits that would have been derived from that fraud.”
Spolitics on January 11, 2008 at 12:23 AM
Fred stood strong as the ONLY conservative in the crowd. He is the obvious and only choice for the White House. Plus his wife would make an awesome first lady (she’s way better looking than Bill).
HotAirExpert on January 11, 2008 at 12:24 AM
Sultry,
the problem is people at this point don’t believe Fred can win at this point.
But the polls show they believe that McCain can win..
plus – and this is what Mac’s campaign is betting on –
Michigan dems can reach over and vote pubs.. same as NH indepents as well as neighboring states were able to vote in the NH primary. Romney actually won the pub votes in NH.
The first three states are spoilers in this case.
Listen to Rush.. he has the best analysis going on right now.
Mcguyver on January 11, 2008 at 12:24 AM
And the Dems are not really having a primary there, leaving them free to play spoilers. Prognosis negative for Mitt.
Spolitics on January 11, 2008 at 12:26 AM
Doesn’t matter. The people who have an attention span sufficient to follow more than four words in a row already have our candidate picked out, and Huckster isn’t talking to us.
logis on January 11, 2008 at 12:31 AM
These aren’t the same pollsters that had Obama ahead by double digits in NH are they?
I think Fred isn’t as focused on McCain because I think he sees Huckabee as a greater threat to pull the independent vote.
IMO McCain just sinks his own ship whenever illegal immigration comes up, it just amazes me that NH voted for him and that he’s up in SC.
Either way Fred did a lot to put him in serious contention in SC and if he can get some momentum this whole thing is up in the air still.
Luckedout on January 11, 2008 at 12:32 AM
Sorry, but it’s too late for Fred!.
Psycheout on January 11, 2008 at 12:37 AM
I loved it, GO FRED GO!!
Security Mom on January 11, 2008 at 12:40 AM
Dude, that is the Huck voodoo. He doesn’t have to say anything, but he says it in such a way that his followers shut their brains off and bask in the soundwaves.
Not to bash any thinking Huckabee followers who are in his camp so the gays wont steal your children and the corporations won’t kill Santa. Those are legitimate policy concerns.
joewm315 on January 11, 2008 at 12:50 AM
No…FREDmeat!
Ummm. I mean that in a good way.
MT
A Canuck watching from afar.
Mistahtibbs on January 11, 2008 at 12:50 AM
How so? I mean, in what way are the other candidates besides Thompson even PRETENDING to be like Ronald Reagan? All I see are a bunch of George Bush’s, except even MORE interested in sermonizing and Socializing than he was.
I’m being sarcastic when I say that’s just what America needs right now. But I’m serious as cancer when I say that’s just what the Democrat Party needs right now.
It seems like it pains these guys to even give lip service to conservatism. It’s been 20 years since I’ve had a Presidential nominee who said what I want to hear, and I’m just plain tired of jackasses who tell me “I’m a wonderful human being, and I’m not quite as liberal as the Democrats!” I’m sorry, but that’s just not enough anymore.
But what the Hell do I know? Everybody on TV keeps telling me that Fred Thompson is just a “lazy actor,” so he can’t possibly be a good President. In the mind of many people, repetition is truth. The media have only been bashing Bush for 8 years now, but they’ve been repeating the line about Reagan for 20 years. So maybe it really is over.
logis on January 11, 2008 at 12:52 AM
Hmmm… a Mccain/Thompson ticket… that might be interesting
jasnell on January 11, 2008 at 12:53 AM
Mcguyver, you’re a smart guy and we often agree, but I say vote for the man you think would make the best President.
It’s not my job to gameplan my vote based on the pundits’ opinion of someone’s electability. They have been wrong before and will be wrong again.
I’m not interested in reaching out to moderates with a McCain vote, or any other scheme to pick somebody other people like. I vote for the guy I agree with, and who I feel would lead this country well.
joewm315 on January 11, 2008 at 12:53 AM
Y’know, if McCain has the Malkins to take the race, he’d still be the oldest President ever inaugurated…which, while wishing no one ill, might make his VP choice quite significant.
If Fred doesn’t catch a break, and it isn’t “Fred ’08″, maybe “McCain/Fred ’08″?
cthulhu on January 11, 2008 at 12:55 AM
I just cast my absentee for you today, Fred. Give ‘em hell! and if you gotta go down, go down swinging!
PolitiNOOB on January 11, 2008 at 1:00 AM
I don’t want to burst your bubble you Fredheads, but Fred’s sole purpose now is to eliminate Elmer from the race. That leaves Rudy to eliminate McShamensty. Leaving the two best choices to vie for the nomination.
csdeven on January 11, 2008 at 1:10 AM
By your calculations that would be… Ron Paul and Mitt Romney?
joewm315 on January 11, 2008 at 1:13 AM
I never thought of it from that direction before. I just realized I’m in a three-way tie for “least favorite candidate” between Huckabee, Romney and Giuliani. That left John McCain as my second-place choice. Is that a pathetic field or what?
Seriously though, after his 2000 fifth-column primary campaign, I could never vote for McCain as a Republican. But if we lived in some perfect world where McCain were the Democrat candidate, I’d actually consider him a viable alternative.
logis on January 11, 2008 at 1:14 AM
http://www.thesitrep.com/pres.htm
Lays it out like this from Hot air bloggers:
Fred Thompson 65.7% 115
Mitt Romney 25.1% 44
Mike Huckabee 5.1% 9
Rudy Giuliani 2.9% 5
John McCain. 1.1% 2
Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate!
TheSitRep on January 11, 2008 at 1:23 AM
Which is why I have donated to Mitt but not to Fred.
MB4 on January 11, 2008 at 1:36 AM
Does anyone have a tape of that elobarate opening number? I have never seen anything like that.
AprilOrit on January 11, 2008 at 1:37 AM
My choice:
President Romney
Vice-President Thompson
Strong ticket, geographically balanced, Conservative enough for anyone.
Since this 2008 election began two years ago, let me be the first to mention Minnesota Governor Tim Palenty for 2016. Go Tim Go!
Doug on January 11, 2008 at 1:40 AM
McCain is crap.
If he runs as the Republican candidate, I will simply refuse to vote and will un-register myself as a Republican.
There’s simply no point to belong to a party that can’t field anyone better than an ancient mediocre wackjob leftoid hack like John McCain. One doesn’t have to read the laundry list of his horrific attacks on the principles of the party. We all know them by heart. And now he’s lying about it.
What was the point of attacking a pathetic clown like Huckabee while leaving McCain alone? Among a thousand other sins, Crazy McCain is advocating a greeny-weeny dismantling of the entire American automobile industry – something that Michigan people should be made very aware of. Is that idiot the best that we can do?
The fact that he is even this close to a breakout is very depressing.
What a disgusting untrustworthy individual…
TexasJew on January 11, 2008 at 1:40 AM
Spencer Abraham & Fred
read both..
Michelle
Malkin: Fred Thompson and Spencer Abraham: Bad combo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9KM3AZUROA
Chakra Hammer on January 11, 2008 at 1:49 AM
Even if one excepts the claim that McVain is a war hero, which I don’t as he spent six years in an NVA prison camp not on any battlefield helping to defeat the enemy, that “get out of jail card” would have expired long ago.
I don’t know about anyone else but if I said that I admired and respected Juan Plantation Strawberries McShamnasty my nose would grow to be a mile long, my teeth would all fall out and my ancestors would rise from the grave and strangle me.
So I’m not going to do it. Wouldn’t be prudent.
MB4 on January 11, 2008 at 1:49 AM
Fred, I used to watch Ronald Reagan on the TV when I was in elementary school and you are NO Ronald Reagan. LOL
Chakra Hammer on January 11, 2008 at 1:52 AM
Now, Fred Thompson has gone and hired Open Border Spence as his acting campaign manager:
Michelle Malkin
http://michellemalkin.com/2007/07/26/fred-thompson-and-spencer-abraham-bad-combo/
Chakra Hammer on January 11, 2008 at 1:54 AM
Ronald Reagan was actually President of the United States back in the eighties (1980′s). Don’t feel too terrible though, even a lot of adults don’t know that these days. I blame the schools.
logis on January 11, 2008 at 1:57 AM
Don’t know ’bout anyone else, but I’m looking forward to listening to Rush radio tomorrow. Bet he spends most of his time raving about Fred!. Can’t wait.
P. James Moriarty on January 11, 2008 at 2:01 AM
This is all Drudge can cough up for the debate:
What’s up with Drudge? Is he a Democrat?
silverfox on January 11, 2008 at 2:04 AM
“When Fred Thompson says, Have a Merry christmas, that’s not a meaningless platitude–it’s a command [similar to his demanding equal time tonight] —so you better have a Christmas so merry that blood is shooting out your eyes because Fred Thompson is coming to town and a presidential ballot near you!!!!“.
RedLizard64 on January 11, 2008 at 2:16 AM
The opening number was really beautiful, they have never done anything like that at a debate – did anyone tape it?
I have been looking all over and cannot find a tape of it, I know it may sound shallow, but from a feminine viewpoint I would like a link if there is one out there.
Anybody??
AprilOrit on January 11, 2008 at 2:18 AM
Not very Presidential of Fred IMHO..
It’s a nice pander, but.. NOT Presidential.
Chakra Hammer on January 11, 2008 at 2:36 AM
Fred’s solid performance should give him a decent jump in the polls over the next few days. Combined with the reported “big” conservative endorsement to be announced tomorrow, Fred stands poised to benefit from post debate momentum.
I believe Fred stood around 9 per-cent in the FoxNews poll released today. The question is, how much of a jump (if any) do you all expect he’ll receive over the course of the coming week?
kc2ige on January 11, 2008 at 2:40 AM
I suppose I should point out that all of the Republican candidates, even the less-than-perfect ones, are far better than any of the Dem candidates. Rudy’s pro-choice position is nothing like the Democrats’ pro-abortion position. McCain’s amnesty position is nothing like the Democrats’ open borders position. Huckabee’s big government is nothing like the Dems’ big government. Neither Romney nor Thompson have positions even vaguely similiar to the Dems. Heck, even Paul’s lunacy is nothing like the Dems’ lunacy. Quite frankly, I’d be proud to have any of the five major Republican candidates for President.
But I’m sure everyone here already knew that. At least we’re not tearing apart each other’s candidates like the Dems are.
JohnJ on January 11, 2008 at 2:44 AM
Here you go. I had to romance Youtube’s crappy search engine a little. It was a classy opening, though.
ReubenJCogburn on January 11, 2008 at 2:49 AM
Fred is doing exactly what he needs to do and what is the right thing to do. John McCain is a true war hero and cannot be attacked in any way, shape, or form, that would not make his attacker seem like a petty, callous, vote mongering asshole.
I am no McCain fan, but I wouldn’t want to see anyone attack the man, even on things he should be called on. It’s not necessary to do so. All Fred needs to do is exactly what he did tonight. Huckabee was fair game, and Fred used Huckabee to get his points across without going after McCain.
If I have any criticism of Thompson, and all the rest of them, is that one of them should have called Paul on his small speed boat answer by asking him if he’d ever heard of the USS Cole. It would have been really nice if someone on that stage had demanded that Paul leave the stage. Then taken off his mic, and walked off if Paul refused.
Jaynie59 on January 11, 2008 at 2:49 AM
“I am no McCain fan, but I wouldn’t want to see anyone attack the man, even on things he should be called on.”
I don’t mean to sound rude, but that statement makes no sense to me in any way, shape or form, except in an Oprah-ish kind of illogical way. I thought that most of us are Republicans here!
This is an free election, and we are being asked to pick from a slate of candidates that will lead us, tax us, and (hopefully) respect our Constitution.
Moreover, these people are public servants (not our masters) and they are asking for our support. We should (in a symbolic sense, of course) be putting a flashlight right up their damn kazoos if we need to get some honest information. For example, there is no doubt at all that McCain is lying to us (his masters, if you read the Constitution) about his shamnesty bill, right in the middle of an election cycle.
Well, I guess that it’s flashlight time!
TexasJew on January 11, 2008 at 3:08 AM
Most ironic line of the night:
John McCain commenting on border security …
Huh? Makes sense to me. It’s annoying that nobody called him on this.
Gregor on January 11, 2008 at 3:12 AM
With regard to McCain, I think the reason why he has been the subject of so much criticism is not purely because of his positions, though they are a source of much derision, but because of his “straight talk” claims, etc.
For McCain to claim the mantle of the straight shooter and then, as you say, lie to us would seem to be the height of disingenuity.
It certainly is easy to compare statements from years past and apply the “flip flopper label.” But for McCain, I think the problem runs deeper. How he has been able to make claims of not supporting amnesty, despite having his name attached to the infamous amnesty bill, is beyond reason. Like you suggest, sunlight is the best disinfectant
kc2ige on January 11, 2008 at 3:19 AM
What the hell country do you think this is anyway?
North Korea?
MB4 on January 11, 2008 at 3:24 AM
Yeah! I was watching this with my pops and we both looked at each other with mouths dropped when he said that.
geckomon on January 11, 2008 at 3:24 AM
Pi$$ on Juan Plantation Strawberries Shamnasty Wackjob McVain and el burro que viajaban en el!
MB4 on January 11, 2008 at 3:27 AM
In 2008, may we all be … FredStaters.
theregoestheneighborhood on January 11, 2008 at 3:27 AM
Fred08.com has raised almost $50,000 since the debate.
joewm315 on January 11, 2008 at 3:30 AM
Human Events just posted its endorsement of Fred.
kc2ige on January 11, 2008 at 3:32 AM
1) Romney
2) Fred
3) Giuliani
4) Obama
5) Paul
6) Hillary
7) Huckabee
8) Kucinich
9) Donald Duck
10) Waterboarding
11) McCain
MB4 on January 11, 2008 at 3:39 AM
Thanks so much ReubenJ!!
AprilOrit on January 11, 2008 at 4:08 AM
Fred is doing all the candidates a favor by clearing out Huck. Fred get’s points by knocking him off and tightens the pool up. This also clears the party to get the debate towards real conservative issues and not populist ones.
Don’t under value Fred’s aim at Huck as a mistake because he didn’t go after Guliani or Romney instead. There’s still a few more weeks ahead. This is the tortoise vs the Hair.
Egfrow on January 11, 2008 at 5:22 AM
I know Reagan was our President!
And I used to watch him on TV all the time when he was President, I was in Elementary School at the time..
I was like 9-10 years old in 1984(I was born in ’74)
Chakra Hammer on January 11, 2008 at 5:36 AM
I think it is smart to go after Huck only last night. If McCain wins convincingly in Michigan that all but certainly kills Romney, it also puts a damper on Huckamania. Fred then, after Michigan, can take down McCain who does not have the megamilions Romney has. Fred has pulled a cool half million in the past several days for ads. You notice they didn’t show which one they were going to put up. My quess is possitive stuff until next Tuiesday and then Mac gets it.
tort_feasor on January 11, 2008 at 6:18 AM
“Why the Morons Who Run Red State Are a Bunch of Jackasses and I Won’t Bother to Comment There Nor Even Read There Again”
Short and sweet. Less than a week after signing up to comment, I was banned. Why? The only conceivable reason is their policy against not letting anyone new to comment who supports Ron Paul.
But here’s the thing. I don’t support Ron Paul.
Proof? The very Red State comment thread on the South Carolina Republican debate that caused me to get banned. Here’s what I said in comment #288:
And later, comment #292:
I threw in the exit question to provoke thought and humor about the Ronbots and “Romulans” furiously texting away to skew the results. But do the idiots who run Red State get the humor or even ask a question before Stalinesquely purging me? Hardly.
I was so not surprised to be banned — because they have a reputation for being a closed shop and are no friends of free speech (not even in this case, seemingly, where my position is in agreement with their position… which is why I refer to them as morons).
Well, I ask rhetorically, what more would I expect of a site co-founded by plagiarist Ben Domenech, who is a blog poster on the site to this day?
- – -
Cross posted at various places out of frustration to get my point across. They gave me no warning, nor even an email, and I certainly won’t waste my time begging them for posting privileges so I can agree with them and get banned for it.
Christoph on January 11, 2008 at 6:42 AM
they don’t need to lay hands on McCain… every time McCain opens his mouth he shows us why he’s not even close to a conservative. Pick a bill w/ “McCain-???” in front of it and check it out. (hint: McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Feingold, McCain-Lieberman).
But I guess in a state that would elect Sen Ghramnesty McCain would have some supporters.
BadBrad on January 11, 2008 at 6:47 AM
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