Debate Highlights: Fred takes Huck to the woodshed; Update: Fred on “virgins”; Update: Stalking horse?
posted at 9:49 pm on January 10, 2008 by Bryan
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Who wants some piping hot Fred? Here he is taking Mike Huckabee to task for his campaign manager suggesting that the Reagan coalition is dead. Fred then goes on to hammer Huckabee’s liberal tendencies.
Update (AP): Enjoy the attack on Huck, but I hasten to remind you that it’s not Huck who’s ahead right now in SC. If Fred’s unwilling to attack McCain too then he’s not really trying to win, he’s simply trying to take Huck down. Which benefits … McCain.
Update (AP): I’m not accusing Fred of being a stalking horse in intent but in fact. If he won’t attack McCain then he’s forfeiting an opportunity to vault past him.
Update (AP): Some of the commenters are wondering why I think Fred helped McCain tonight by attacking Huckabee after saying a few days ago that he’s probably hurting Mac more than Huck by staying in the race. Answer: The two aren’t mutually exclusive. If he dropped out tomorrow, I think McCain would benefit since the ‘Heads are slightly more likely to break towards the war candidate than the values candidate (I think). By attacking Huck tonight, though, Fred presumably peeled away a few of Huck’s own supporters. It doesn’t really matter where they go since they’ll only amount to a few percent and McCain leads both Mitt and Fred by double digits. It’s a net benefit to him that Huckabee loses supporters, period, even if he loses them to Fred.
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Pretty good. Huck’s response was a little obnoxious by starting off with the “here are the facts” thing and then proceeded to not refute Freds criticisms
Richard Bushnell on January 10, 2008 at 9:50 PM
What, no comments yet?
rivlax on January 10, 2008 at 9:50 PM
It’s all in the big debate thread.
BKennedy on January 10, 2008 at 9:51 PM
Dang, beat me to it.
By the way, that was the best political moment so far in this campaign. My wife tried to get to Fred’s site and it was locked up. I hope it’s lots of people wanting to give long green.
rivlax on January 10, 2008 at 9:51 PM
LOVED IT!
Micheal on January 10, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Fred stomped Huck a good one.
doubleplusundead on January 10, 2008 at 9:54 PM
You ROCK Fred!!! This Huckabust has got to be shown for who he is… That’s why I caucused for him in Iowa.
Stand by folks, Fred could be the dark horse!
colep on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Sadly, only Fox news will let him talk like that….the MSM (sic) will want to shut him down if they even put him on the air at all.
Fred is the closest we have to a Reagan Conservative.
He doesn’t need to dance as president, he needs to lead, so everyone questioning his desire and saying he’s lazy are looking for someone to be “In your face”, but just like Reagan, he’s a quiet conservative until he needs to be vocal.
Sad that he’s not getting the coverage he deserves, but he’s not the MSM (sic) candidate of choice.
Fuzzball on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
When I hear him speak, I feel like he is the only one
not bulls**@*ing me.
efears on January 10, 2008 at 9:55 PM
go fred, :)
ron paul is done and mccain cant even deliver a one liner lol
trailortrash on January 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM
When I hear him speak, I feel like he is the only one
not bulls**@*ing me.
A-Freakin-Men!!!
colep on January 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM
PREACH IT, FRED!
someguy on January 10, 2008 at 9:56 PM
Nice job, Bryan, getting the video up this quickly.
And Thompson’s Hucka-bash was long overdue. Huckabee didn’t look pleased.
Slublog on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
someone post up ron paul getting laughed out of the debate
triple on January 10, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Fred = NICE
Huck = PWN3D
Good Lt on January 10, 2008 at 9:58 PM
That was a rhetorical asskicking that was waaaaay overdue.
doubleplusundead on January 10, 2008 at 9:58 PM
It’s coming.
Bryan on January 10, 2008 at 9:58 PM
Could you also add Brit Hume’s Ron Paul Pwnage?
Keljeck on January 10, 2008 at 9:59 PM
Preach it Fred!
colep on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
about Damn time!
lan astaslem on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
‘Bout time someone wasted Huck, and Fred! sure as hell did it… Sadly for Fred! he didn’t decide he wanted the job until a couple of days ago, so I think his campaign is pretty much over, even with a win in SC, I don’t know how far he can really go at this point.
RightWinged on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Its a long long campaign, the more Huck gets hit the more he will become a non-factor and we will see thereal strength that Romney, Rudy, John and Fred truely have
EricPWJohnson on January 10, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Ron Paul= done
glad they let him in this debate, the more people get a good look at his ignorance the better.
trailortrash on January 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Fred needs to keep stomping the RINOs around him. YEEEEEAHHH!!! He’s going after Huck again!
doubleplusundead on January 10, 2008 at 10:01 PM
I disagree, RP has been a huge distraction and sucking up way too much time.
doubleplusundead on January 10, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Please put up a video of Brit Hume schooling Ron Paul.
Please!
Please!
Weebork on January 10, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Oh, I now saw Bryan’s response above.
Thanks!
Weebork on January 10, 2008 at 10:03 PM
This is GREAT having a place to post about Fred where other folks see what I’m seeing. I’m SICK of the MSM’s pushing of Huck. They WANT him to be the nominee… because he can’t get the win.
colep on January 10, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Arghh I missed the debate cuz I got in a car wreck. Stupid Utah snow.
Let me know if there’s a link out there for the whole thing.
CABE on January 10, 2008 at 10:07 PM
It’s not too late for Fred to assert himself. His platform and background present him as the conservative candidate that we all want. It’s very difficult not to be painfully disappointed with the non-campaign that he has run, but I am convinced that it is not yet too late.
Come on, Fred. Let’s get this thing going.
Jaibones on January 10, 2008 at 10:07 PM
PERXACTLY!
Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate!
TheSitRep on January 10, 2008 at 10:07 PM
PS That was a righteous bitch-slapping he gave the Huckster, and well-deserved.
Jaibones on January 10, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Take a look over at The Corner, they are going apesh!t over Fred’s performance. From K-Lo, to Jonah, to Mark Levin, to Kate O’Beirne to Rich Lowry. I’ve never seen such uniform enthusiasm over there about one of these debate performances.
Dudley Smith on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Fred!
davidk on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM
They call me the sheriff.
They call me the sheriff.
They call me the sheriff.
They call me the sheriff.
They call me the sheriff.
They call me the sheriff.
They call me the sheriff.
They call me the sheriff.
They call me the sheriff.
They call me the sheriff.
They call me the sheriff.
They call me the sheriff.
They call me the sheriff.
Who am I?
Griz on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM
GO FRED.
Griz on January 10, 2008 at 10:09 PM
PERXACTLY!
Fredalanche!© ◄ Donate!
Thanks for the link SitRep… I’m helping to fill the tank tonight!
colep on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM
I raised hope? The only thing he is raising is the puke into my mouth.
liberrocky on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Obligatory question: Why wasn’t Fred this lively in debates up until this point? The last one we had a great clip of him in was refusing to raise his hand.
amerpundit on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM
I’m a hardcore Mitt fan, but I admit that Fred is having a good night. We need to do whatever it takes to stop Huckabee and McCain from getting this nomination. I will not let conservatism be slandered by the liberal tag team.
davenp35 on January 10, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Don’t be so sure, McCain might take himself out with his betrayals of the conservative movement. Oh, this’ll be good Fred is about to hit Huck.
doubleplusundead on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM
Huck wants kids playing in traffic.
liberrocky on January 10, 2008 at 10:11 PM
He’s been doing it for years, but he just won a primary and leads in South Carolina.
amerpundit on January 10, 2008 at 10:12 PM
The Huckster invented WalMart.
Griz on January 10, 2008 at 10:13 PM
The Huckster’s Arkansas exported more American dollars to China than any other state in the union.
Griz on January 10, 2008 at 10:14 PM
New Hampshire doesn’t friggin’ count!
doubleplusundead on January 10, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Fred/Rudy ‘08.
Griz on January 10, 2008 at 10:15 PM
South Carolina? Michigan?
amerpundit on January 10, 2008 at 10:16 PM
go brit hume, hitting huck with the submissive wife ?
trailortrash on January 10, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Damn it sucks that Fred isn’t able to get out there
God I wish Fred could be involved heavily in whoever wins the republican primaries
Defector01 on January 10, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Put this in the wrong thread: True. But it is Fred doing something. It’s a sign of life from him punking Rino’s. I’ll take it either way, esp so with Huck.
Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Agree, Mitt is my number one, but I am cheering like crazy for my number 2!!
Go Fred Go!!
lan astaslem on January 10, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Huck playing the “unashamed Christian” is just the kind of wool he wants to pull of South Carolinians’ eyes.
The Ritz on January 10, 2008 at 10:18 PM
I missed the debate. Who was Fred addressing in his first clip when he said THEY believe it [Reagan] is over besides Huck?
And what did they say before it?
F15Mech on January 10, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Huck playing the “unashamed Christian” is just the kind of wool he wants to pull over South Carolinians’ eyes.
The Ritz on January 10, 2008 at 10:18 PM
The Ritz on January 10, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Zing!! On Paul.
davidk on January 10, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Blimp go boom
trailortrash on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Crazy Ron: “Let other people sort out our national security problems and the problems will probably go away.”
The Ritz on January 10, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Come on Fred, ASK ABOUT THE SHIITE REPUBLICANS!
The Ritz on January 10, 2008 at 10:21 PM
I’m so sick of Hucksmoke I could puke!
The Ritz on January 10, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Or have any trust in you Turncoat McCain
colep on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Fred’s doing great. But I agree not enough McCain takedowns, but why does McCain have to end his answers with that “I’m a good boy” grin?
Roh, roh, he just got the immigration question. Get’ em Fred!
andysdick on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Rudy has the fire-in-the-belly problems tonight. He’s just not doing anything up there. Honestly, I think he’s now running for VP.
The Hayekian on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
If tonight doesn’t kick Fred up front, don’t know if it’s going to happen. Someone Please convince me I’m wrong.
GO FRED GO!
colep on January 10, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Heh. And it was Nemo who predicted it, here on Hot Air. Your humble Captain does admit that none of the other candidates smacked down Uncle Ron. He took out his gun and shot himself in the foot.
Way to go, Ron! See ya…wouldn’t wanna be ya.
NemoParticularis on January 10, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Fred is definitely trying to help McCain. After McCain was attacked as “part of the problem”, as part of Congress, Thompson declined to echo the attack McCain, talked about his own past work in Congress, and concluded by saying “so it is possible to be in Congress and get some good, positive changes made.”
That’s when I realized he is working on McCain’s behalf… which is unfortunate.
DaveS on January 10, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Fred! kinda muffed his chance on immigration.
davidk on January 10, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Wow. Huckabee’s “no bridges fell in Arkansas” line was really offensive.
Slublog on January 10, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Dude. If he does that, I’ll break out the champagne.
Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 10:31 PM
STOP asking Paul questions.
I want to watch the adults debate.
dean_acheson on January 10, 2008 at 10:31 PM
This isn’t the end for Fred. This isn’t the beginning of the end.
It is the end of the beginning.
Buckle up, buckaroo. It’s gonna be a bumpy ride – but well worth it.
NemoParticularis on January 10, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Huck? is a joke “They came here on their; they will leave on their own.”
davidk on January 10, 2008 at 10:32 PM
“Stalking horse”?
Come on, buddy. Let’s dial back the Paulite conspiracy theory.
see-dubya on January 10, 2008 at 10:33 PM
2 words for FDT. Smok.in.!!!!
F15Mech, he was talking about Huck and Ed Rollins
macblanegirl on January 10, 2008 at 10:33 PM
I’m not accusing him of being a stalking horse in intent but in fact. If he wants to win, he has to beat McCain too. What has he said tonight to do that?
Allahpundit on January 10, 2008 at 10:34 PM
But it doesn’t matter if Huck’s a f*cking liberal!!
HE’TH A PAAAAATH-TOR!!!!!!!
thareb on January 10, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Even the NYT blog likes Fred tonight, but couldn’t they drop the style book for blogging? This looks ridiculous:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/10/live-blogging-the-gop-debate-5/index.html?hp
Dudley Smith on January 10, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Guliani just doesn’t get it…..
dean_acheson on January 10, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Now Fred, go pull off Hucks arms and beat him with them..
broker1 on January 10, 2008 at 10:35 PM
why does Fox hate Fred so much?
dean_acheson on January 10, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Crack open your “Michael Corleone Political Primer,” Grasshopper. Turn to Chapter 4, titled: Keep your friends close…but keep your enemies closer.
Start reading.
NemoParticularis on January 10, 2008 at 10:35 PM
o god the luntz group time
trailortrash on January 10, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Focus group?? Beating on McCain would have hurt him perhaps??
FRED WONNNN!!!!!
broker1 on January 10, 2008 at 10:36 PM
It’s a pity. Even if it is unintentional, their friendship clearly gets in the way.
Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Fred wins the focus group!
kc2ige on January 10, 2008 at 10:37 PM
He didn’t attack McCain. In fact, he stopped himself once in mid McCain attack and moved his attack to Huck. He is doing it deliberately.
bnelson44 on January 10, 2008 at 10:37 PM
w00t! Fred owns Luntz’s focus group in SC!
AUINSC on January 10, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Well, I think “stalking horse” implies intent. Not sure of the derivation, though.
Nemo, I believe that’s actually Sun Tzu.
see-dubya on January 10, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Allah I beat you over the head for the last month. And you were right the whole time. If he showed energy and humor he would be running away with this..
broker1 on January 10, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Luntz’ group says FRED!
doubleplusundead on January 10, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Oh STFU lady, Fred rules!
doubleplusundead on January 10, 2008 at 10:38 PM
NRO Corner is praising Fred too.
bnelson44 on January 10, 2008 at 10:38 PM
The Winner [Mark R. Levin]
Fred … win, place and show.
bnelson44 on January 10, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Fred, good job mate.
Spirit of 1776 on January 10, 2008 at 10:40 PM
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