I got victimized worse!

/pea soup spewing on Hot Air.

/sarc

Without reading all the other comments here, I’m going to go out on a limb and say the lack of compassion Beck experienced at the hospital is because the market for medical services in this country is totally ass-backwards (heh).

I’m going stand on solid ground and state that if he received lack of compassion it was because he was acting like a total ahole. In fact, even if he was acting like a total ahole, I still wd find it difficult to believe that he did not receive compassionate care.

Again, if Beck wanted someone by his bedside holding his hand 24/7 than he should have hired a private duty nurse.

The hospital, doctors, and nurses can’t defend themselves here. Why everyone is taking what he says as 100% truth beats me.

Thank God for women’s compassion!

You just don’t get it, do you? GB is not griping about his ailment or making his out to be more acute than someone else’s.

Hello?
I,m talking about how he was crying from pain and expecting front of the line treatment and couldn’t handle it better than a 13 year old with a broken pelvis and NO pain meds.
I,m not refering at all to how he felt he was treated by the staff.

The problem, so far as bad service, could easily be rectified (no pun intended) by a competitive medical market. What’s so hard about understanding this?

whiskeytango on January 10, 2008 at 1:27 AM

I agree. Get the government out of health care and some of the problems will go away.

Glenn seemed to be primarily taking issue with 2 things:

#1 Being told by his HMO he couldn’t stay in the hospital even though he and his doctor didn’t feel he was equipped to leave because of his level of pain and the amount of medication he was taking.
#2 The level of customer service (care/compassion) he received from the clinical staff.

My post just stated that he could have addressed #1 by switching to self-pay. That one was within his control. If he changes to self pay he has more control over #2. He can then go to any facility he wants that has the level of customer service that meets his needs. This is the free market at work. This is where the rest of us get stuck. We don’t have Glenn’s resources. We can’t just go to any health care facility we want because we are dependent on third party payment.

Rather than the usual Dem line about “universal health care” we should be talking about how to make the market for medical services a free market, as opposed to the current mishmash of middlemen. The only thing that can improve health care in America is competition.

I would suggest you research pain management before you say things like that.

So should you. Tolerance is not the same as addiction. Take any drug long enough and you will become addicted. If people are experiencing pain and need to take medications in high doses and for extended periods of time, and become addicted, so be it.

RightWinged on January 9, 2008 at 8:53 PM

Just kiddin with you, you left an opening and I took it.

I’ve had similar surgery (polyp removal from the colon) so I know what he has gone through. The pain can be controlled but the person may not react well to the means used to control the pain-that why they have you sign the releases.

Mr. Beck is right in highlighting the fact that many in the health care industry have forgotten that the way they care for the patient can do more good than all of the chemicals in the world.

Part of caring is to have a sense of humor. That’s why I asked for and received copies of the pictures of my surgery. I use these documents to refute personal attacks. When people call me a perfect A$$hole, I show them the pictures to prove them wrong.

Maybe if GB didn’t have a history of drug abuse they would have given him more meds.

Docs are always on the look out for drug seeking behaviour and can get in trouble for over medicating. There was a recent (late 2007) case where a doc was sent to JAIL for prescribing pain meds to cancer patients. I’ll go try to find the link.

Drugs are evil, therefore some people don’t get adequate pain killing medication.

Bad Penny on January 9, 2008 at 8:34 PM

What? I would suggest you research pain management before you say things like that.

#1. Narcotics (such as what Beck was on) are highly addicting.
#2. Narcotics, when taken approprately (even in very large doses) to relieve pain, actually have a very LOW (almost ZERO) addiction rate. That is why some CA patients can take very High doses, still function, and NOT end up a junkie.
#3. You have to take more narcotics than necessary (for pain relief) to get a “High”. This is where many get into trouble.

Pain is subjective. People should take narcotics appropriately (i.e. to return to a normal level of function rather than to get high) and doctors should not undermedicate out of fear of addiction. Unfortunately… this would involve a certain amount of personal responsibility.

Hearing what G.B. was on… he was NOT undermedicated.

Uninformed opinions like yours (even among trained physicians) are responsible for many, many patients going UNDERmedicated after surgery or during terminal cancer.

It does pain me to admit this, since he’s the only conservative pundit with a national platform who routinely denounces both Islamic fascism-in its many pernicious avatars, both domestically and abroad-and the continued attempts by the invetebrates serving in D.C. to turn this country into a dependency of Mexico, but I do think Glenn Beck is a dork.

That being said, I don’t see what that has to do with the allegations he’s lodged against certain individuals who were charged with rendering medical attention to him.

Yes, he’s biased.

If you almost died-even if you merely thought you were going to die-because of the malfeasance of others who were entrusted with your care you sure as hell would be prejudiced against those people as well.

No one is saying that they should be. He does not make a good witness. He is much too one-sided and much too hysterical.

He also looks like a sissy boy.

He’s not asking anyone to form a lynch mob.

He sure had me fooled then. If what he is doing is not trying to form a verbal lynch mod I don’t know what it would take.

Leaving aside your hyperbolic characterization,

My hyperbolic characterization?
Not all his, but mine?
Are you kidding me?
ROFALMAO!!!

why do you object to critiquing the medical profession when such criticism is warranted?

I don’t. I’m just not following his say-so on what happened to him and whose fault it was like some lap dog.

I don’t see why they should be exempt from scrutiny any more than trial lawyers, public school teachers, police officers, or any other vocation.

Gerard on January 10, 2008 at 3:09 AM

No one is saying that they should be. He does not make a good witness. He is much too one-sided and much too hysterical.

Leaving aside your hyperbolic characterization, why do you object to critiquing the medical profession when such criticism is warranted?

There are a lot of doctors and nurses who do their jobs efficaciously, but they are not infallible. One of the reasons so many patients see their condition grow gradually worse is because they have this skewed mentality, i.e. whatever the man or woman wearing a stethoscope says must invariably be true.

I don’t see why they should be exempt from scrutiny any more than trial lawyers, public school teachers, police officers, or any other vocation.

Glen Beck’s maltreatment, isolated by itself, is not all that important.

Gerard on January 10, 2008 at 2:28 AM

We have only his say so that he was maltreated and he has gone so over the top with some of what he has said that he is not all that credible.

I will not join a lynch mob going after doctors and nurses on his say so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlCLHf76q_w