Video: Influential Baptist Paul Pressler endorses … Fred!
posted at 5:30 pm on January 9, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Actually, he endorsed him a month ago but they’re rolling out the video today to counter the revival (pun intended) that Huck’s planning for South Carolina. Here’s the background on Pressler; read it or else you won’t grasp the significance of him bypassing Huck. Bob Novak wrote about a recent run-in between the two not long ago, in fact:
When Mike Huckabee went to Houston on Tuesday to raise funds for his fast-rising, money-starved presidential candidacy, a luncheon for the ordained Baptist minister was arranged by evangelical Christians. On hand was Judge Paul Pressler, a hero to Southern Baptist Convention reformers. But he was a nonpaying guest who supports Fred Thompson for president.
Huckabee greeted Pressler warmly. That contrasted with Huckabee’s anger two months ago when they encountered each other in California. The former governor of Arkansas took issue then with comments by Pressler, a former Texas appeals court judge, that Huckabee had been a slacker in the war against secularists within the Baptist church…
Pressler is known to be concerned that Huckabee plays to the establishment and would be subservient to the State Department and the New York Times.
On Oct. 26, John Fund of the Wall Street Journal quoted Pressler as saying: “I know of no conservative he appointed while he headed the Arkansas Baptist Convention.” The next week, during their California encounter, Huckabee confirmed reports from people who know him that his good-natured facade conceals thin-skinned irritability. The candidate jumped Pressler with bitter complaints.
Does Fred have enough money to get this on the air in SC, or is it part of his super-keen “Internet” strategy of campaigning?
Update (Bryan): Another fun fact that the Fred Heads can trot out: Arkansas Republicans didn’t endorse Huckabee either. Because, among other things, he campaigned for Democrats, helped them win, thereby screwing over the state’s GOP.
In 2003, Huckabee not only begged lawmakers for new taxes to make up a budget shortfall, but he rebuffed conservatives’ (Republicans and a couple of Democrats) plan to cover the shortfall by tapping one-time money and cutting pork. In 2004, President Bush won re-election, but Huckabee campaigned for some Democrats – even some who had Republican opponents – and Republicans lost state legislative seats for the first time since 1990.
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Heh…way to go, Huck.
MadisonConservative on January 9, 2008 at 5:32 PM
TV Media sucks as a delivery method. Us the pulpit more than the outlet fred
William Amos on January 9, 2008 at 5:33 PM
I think we’ve all seen a bit of this now.
Fred should run a contrast ad with Pressler’s endorcement for him vs. T.Haggard’s endorsement for Huck. Surely Fred has enough $ to pay Haggard to make that endorsement;)
Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 5:36 PM
*yaaaaaaaaaaawn*
Drunk Report on January 9, 2008 at 5:40 PM
When a vistiting evangelist was at my church back in September, he flatly stated that “Fred Thompson is going to be our next President.”
He didn’t preface it with “Thus sayeth the Looooord” though, so your mileage may vary.
Go Fred!
innominatus on January 9, 2008 at 5:40 PM
Just released today is Fred’s policy paper on reducing government spending. I think there is no one else out with a plan this detailed! Hope Fred can start selling these.
kerrhome on January 9, 2008 at 5:42 PM
I think I hear Julia next door.
Go Fred!
RobertInAustin on January 9, 2008 at 5:42 PM
Wow, no wonder he and McVain are such buddies on the trail … birds of a feather, I tell you.
thirteen28 on January 9, 2008 at 5:44 PM
I’m Baptist, my vote goes to Rudy!
Chakra Hammer on January 9, 2008 at 5:47 PM
kerrhome – Huh. Thanks. Fred is for a line-item veto without Constitutional Admnt. How about that, same as Johnny Mac.
Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 5:47 PM
Our best days are ahead of us.
RushBaby on January 9, 2008 at 5:50 PM
I dont ever wanna see a “HotAir” hates Fred posts. Even I posted a few snarky ones when pinched under my arm by Allah sometimes.
Thanks guys..and the boss..
broker1 on January 9, 2008 at 5:50 PM
As a longtime “Fredhead” who sees the writing on the wall, heed my advise well: Start preparing yourself for disappointment now.
Hollowpoint on January 9, 2008 at 5:54 PM
Way to ignore your religious (and conservative) principles. Good job.
Not everyone can have strong character, so don’t let your failure get you down.
Gregor on January 9, 2008 at 5:55 PM
RB, that’s his best video yet! I like the auto-play too. Doesn’t look like he’ll make the friends goal, but maybe that’ll surge after the debate in SC.
Just as an aside, in that video he had his forehead wrinkled the whole time – looked like a Klingon:)
Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 5:55 PM
Allahpundit giveth, and Allahpundit taketh away.
Hollowpoint on January 9, 2008 at 5:55 PM
I know we say this all the time, but honestly – this guy is a heartbeat away from the Republican candidacy? Really? Not to go all nut-rootsy, but – there are lots of things that can be said for Republicans who campaign for Democrats but “party leader” isn’t one of them.
omriceren on January 9, 2008 at 5:55 PM
HUCKASCHMUCK! repeat as necessary…
Frozen Tex on January 9, 2008 at 5:56 PM
Holy crap we have got to stop this guy. What the Huck is up with him doing well so far???
NTWR on January 9, 2008 at 5:58 PM
True. Huckster can’t be trusted, and in this regard neither can Rudy- he campaigned for uber-liberal Mario Cuomo. Not that it matters anymore- Rudy’s ship is sinking fast.
Hollowpoint on January 9, 2008 at 5:59 PM
Fixed
broker1 on January 9, 2008 at 6:00 PM
Huck is not a conservative, but a liberal and the facts support it. It was noted that 75-80% of conservatives voted for Mitt in NH. and that 20% of those that called themselves liberals voted for Huck. If does not perform well in his own backyard of MI, I think he is toast, and he should drop out and support the only other real conservative in the race, Fred Thompson
ConservativePartyNow on January 9, 2008 at 6:02 PM
Why do you think the Huckster keeps proclaiming how he was able to get elected in a state that votes Democrat?
dirty little (not so) secret – HE’S ONE OF ‘EM
go Fred!
sleepy-beans on January 9, 2008 at 6:02 PM
FIRST LOOK AT PRESSLER FOR PRESIDENT!
Valiant on January 9, 2008 at 6:03 PM
Gee. This would have been nice to know a month ago. Fred’s campaign can be very frustrating.
Bill C on January 9, 2008 at 6:03 PM
Fixed it for you.
Gregor on January 9, 2008 at 6:07 PM
Um, did you only make it through the one bullet point? Would you like me to help you get through the rest? Come on. HA! Did you seriously just base your argument on one single bullet? Gotta do better than that.
So we should just throw the rest out eh?
Also: Arkansas Republican Assembly Endorses Fred Thompson over Former Gov. Huckabee Ouch!
kerrhome on January 9, 2008 at 6:08 PM
Who?
eanax on January 9, 2008 at 6:10 PM
Fred has to convince the very evangelical Upstate of South Carolina (Greenville, Spartanburg, Anderson, etc) to vote for him instead of Huckabee. That’s a tall order, but if he does he has a shot. If he hammers Hucky on illegals it’ll help. He must do well in Lexington County (Columbia suburb county) and the suburb counties of Charlotte, NC that are in SC. I would be stunned if Mitt comes in 2nd in South Carolina simply because many view Mormonism as a cult. It’s gonna be Fred or Mike.
SouthernGent on January 9, 2008 at 6:12 PM
No, I read it (which is why I said thanks, as in thanks for point that out so I could read), but I wasn’t aware I was supposed to comment on each point, I just noted that one b/c I didn’t know that about him, kind of disappointed, kind of expected b/c of McCain.
I hope Fred drops that ARRA bit in the next debate. That’d be another Gitmo-like moment for Huck.
Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 6:13 PM
Funny, never liked Huck, but the more I see him and learn about him, the worse he looks. I wish this stuff about supporting Democrats against Republicans had been out sooner. If only his supporters will wake up (assuming they care). Fred needs to get facts like these up in lights ASAP. He’s not as bad as I thought he was…he’s worse.
Hang in there Fred…sending you some more coin now!
AUINSC on January 9, 2008 at 6:15 PM
Sorry for my reply then. I misread your comment to be sarcastic.
kerrhome on January 9, 2008 at 6:17 PM
And it was really close too (sarcasm):
Gregor on January 9, 2008 at 6:17 PM
Fred Thompson was in the senate for 12 years? That’s not what Wikipedia says.
But if a sixth generation Texan says, it must be true…
cameron on January 9, 2008 at 6:21 PM
All the NE elites think that Romney or McCain or Rudy can stop Huck.
They’re all wrong.
The ONLY one who can stop Huck is Fred. Ya’ll make the mistake of assuming that because a southerner talks in an aw shucks manner with a smile on his face that he’s ‘nice’ or soft or stupid. Don’t be fooled. Huck is not an ‘amiable fool’. Folks in the South are just better at keepin’ a smile on their face and not lettin’ ya know what they’re REALLY thinkin’.
Underestimate Huck at yer own peril. You don’t want Huck? You’d best git behind Fred before it’s too late. (Learn the lesson of underestimatin’ GWB.)
Ex-tex on January 9, 2008 at 6:21 PM
No worries. It’s hard to tell sometimes without knowing the poster.
Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 6:25 PM
Fredmentum
stlpatriot on January 9, 2008 at 6:26 PM
And, just a little food fer thought- many southerners think that northeasters are ill-mannered and not very bright- shhh don’t say anythin’- we don’t wanna hurt anybody’s feelin’s.
Ex-tex on January 9, 2008 at 6:28 PM
Fred needs to let the gloves come off on this fraud the Huckster, and EXPOSE him!
ReaganConservative3 on January 9, 2008 at 6:33 PM
You must be new.
Hollowpoint on January 9, 2008 at 6:36 PM
I’ve been saying all of that for a long time.
Fredalanche©
TheSitRep on January 9, 2008 at 6:40 PM
This is big news about Pressler. I am a Southern Baptist and remember my Pastor telling me of the struggles he and others went through to keep the liberals from taking over the SBC. When the Baptist Pastors get hold of this, their congregation will quit salivating and stop looking love sick over Huckabooboo shockazooloo. This of course, will require Fred (I’m to proud to back down) Thompson to make ammends with Dr. Dobson. Doubt it all you want, but Dobson is a huge influece to evangelicals, me included.
Huck is romancing the evangelicals and homeschoolers in NC like you wouldn’t believe. He will take NC by 60% or more if he isn’t stopped.
livermush on January 9, 2008 at 6:59 PM
Don’t look for Fred to attack Huck directly, a la Mitt/McCain/Rudy/Huck – remember, he is the true conservative in the pack, and he does hew to the Reagan maxim of not directly speaking ill of another Republican.
And these things will come out. Fred doesn’t need to waste his air time or his ink repeating them.
One thing that is apparent through all of the coverage of Fred since he started this journey. While he’s been the most upfront in publishing his positions and ideas – there’s been virtually no coverage of this, and certainly no one has appeared to (publicly, anyway) engage his positions on their merit. And as such, Almost all of the Fred coverage has amounted to speculation and second guessing about his immediate tactical game, or development of the “lazy” meme/narrative.
The logs are loaded in the fireplace – South Carolina provides a match…even a spark – there’s gonna be a bonfire.
Wind Rider on January 9, 2008 at 7:07 PM
livermush on January 9, 2008 at 6:59 PM
I would start looking at what he does vs. what he says and the contradictions that emerge whenever he speaks. That’s a clue.
AUINSC on January 9, 2008 at 7:07 PM
Gee. This would have been nice to know a month ago. Fred’s campaign can be very frustrating.
Bill C on January 9, 2008 at 6:03 PM
It was posted on Fred’s website at the time. Yes it could have been made more visible, but it was announced.
cs89 on January 9, 2008 at 7:10 PM
Pressler nails it. Go Fred. Somebody turn on Fred’s mic and let’s get the ball rolling.
Mojave Mark on January 9, 2008 at 7:11 PM
I’m a Baptist Preacher’s daughter… Both me, my Dad and my siblings are supporting FRED.
WE CAN SEE THROUGH THE PHONEY BALONEY HUCK !
stenwin77 on January 9, 2008 at 7:44 PM
Sorry to disappoint you fellas, but Pressler isn’t influential. Even if Novak interviewed him. Funny that you guys are promoting the endorsement of a guy that makes Huck look like Allahpundit.
huckfan on January 9, 2008 at 7:49 PM
Oh, so you and your dad bought some of those X-Ray vision glasses, did you?
Note: you might want to try an opthamologist next time.
huckfan on January 9, 2008 at 7:51 PM
Sorry huckfan, The more Huck is seen, the less Huck will glean. It’s just too much, in the end. He’s a fraud, plain and simple and anyone not on his payroll will realize it soon enough. His 15 minutes are over.
AUINSC on January 9, 2008 at 7:58 PM
Wow…
About time someone stated the OBVIOUS.
Fred is the only conservative in this race.
You guys are fools for not voting for him.
msipes on January 9, 2008 at 8:06 PM
And that is the entire problem with Fred’s campaign. We are all to stupid to see how great he is.
Right.
huckfan on January 9, 2008 at 8:12 PM
You may not like him but if you’ve paid any attention to the race thus far, you will understand that your statement is completely backward.
The more people see and hear Huck, the better he will do. The people that don’t like him are the ones that read Hotair, NRO’s The Corner, The Weekly Standard, etc. In other words, people that can’t think and research.
huckfan on January 9, 2008 at 8:14 PM
Judge Paul Pressler:
Isn’t he the man who saved the Southern Baptist Convention from the liberals?
Glad he is endorsing Fred, so he can save America from Huckabee!
Go Fred and Judge Pressler!
redneck hippie on January 9, 2008 at 8:21 PM
huckfan on January 9, 2008 at 8:14 PM
The people that don’t like him are the ones that read Hotair, NRO’s The Corner, The Weekly Standard, etc.
Yep, the people that can’t think and research. What do these guys know about conservative principles. Huck..redefining conservative values!
AUINSC on January 9, 2008 at 8:22 PM
huckfan on January 9, 2008 at 8:14 PM
Dude, seriously! Are you a false flag? I mean, coming here and listing the most prestigious conservative names in the world as being the ones who are clueless about Hucks inherent awesomeness must be some really brilliant gag; Or delusion on a scale not yet witnessed by humanity. I prefer to believe it is the former because I would laugh at that one so hard I would die (and you may prefer that).
AUINSC on January 9, 2008 at 8:30 PM
Sorry, you are wrong. Those of us that post on these sites are the ones that do research before we back a candidate. I have researched every GOP candidate and since I know some of the people who have posted on this thread, I can tell you for them that they have done their research.
Our research revealed the truth about Huck and that is the fact that he is a prolife liberal and his redefinition of conservatism will be liberalism, but he will still be prolife.
The majority of the people supporting Huck are Evangelicals who think because he use to be a minister that he is automatically a good guy. Too bad that isn’t true.
The people who aren’t political junkies need to learn to do the research instead of believing pithy soundbites.
TexasLady08 on January 9, 2008 at 8:36 PM
TexasLady08 on January 9, 2008 at 8:36 PM
I agree with you. I was being sarcastic.
AUINSC on January 9, 2008 at 8:42 PM
huckfan:
“The people that don’t like him are the… people that can’t think and research.”
I hope you’ll carry that message to every conceivable venue on the web and out in the real world too. Thanks.
JM Hanes on January 9, 2008 at 8:54 PM
Sorry about that, I guess my sarcasism meter is slow today.
TexasLady08 on January 9, 2008 at 8:58 PM
Well that endorsement seals it, that puts him over the top…why would anyone even continue to campaign?
I say Pressler and Chuck Norris goes into the cage…
right2bright on January 9, 2008 at 9:01 PM
What about Rush Limbaugh Huckfan? Is he wrong for disliking the pro-life liberal Huckabee too? Huckabee knows more about conservatism than Rush I guess.
kerrhome on January 9, 2008 at 9:11 PM
No problem, we all have our off days..plus sarcasm doesn’t always translate well on a forum..But looking at what this guy posted, I almost suspect he works for somebody other that Huck…if not, he’s done far more damage for his candidate that anybody else could have. Seriously, he’s crying about bad coverage from the very best conservative political minds in the country. Get it?
AUINSC on January 9, 2008 at 9:13 PM
Huckabee is a populist and has no conservative principles. He took speaking fees recently while on the campaign trail and also took fees from a pro embryonic stem cell research group. Strong moral values indeed.
I tell you what, my friends and family wouldn’t vote for Huckabee if he was the only candidate running. We are conservatives in every respect, in fact my father is a UM minister. I and many I know in the conservative community will stay home if he is the nominee. It’s just that simple. If I want to vote for liberals, I’ll vote for a Democrat.
kerrhome on January 9, 2008 at 9:17 PM
As I suspected…you’re a rank sentimentalist.
In any case…Welcome to the fight. This time, I know our side will win.
NemoParticularis on January 9, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Obviously.
huckfan on January 9, 2008 at 10:02 PM
I’m doin’ my best. Thanks.
huckfan on January 9, 2008 at 10:03 PM
What I’ve noticed is that the political junkies follow each other like sheeple. Independent thought is required to separate the wheat from the chaff. If you know what I mean.
huckfan on January 9, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Yes,
paulhuckfan..the sheeple, the sheeple!AUINSC on January 9, 2008 at 10:07 PM
It’s really interesting to watch the “intellectual” wing of the “conservative” movement high five-ing when Rush, Laura, Hannity, et al diss Huck.
Very interesting. Makes one think that there might not really be an “intellectual” wing at all.
huckfan on January 9, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Do any of you peeps actually read? Sheesh. Try again.
huckfan on January 9, 2008 at 10:09 PM
Or, to copy the right quote this time:
What I’ve noticed is that the political junkies follow each other like sheeple. Independent thought is required to separate the wheat from the chaff. If you know what I mean.
Yes, paulhuckfan..the sheeple, the sheeple!
AUINSC on January 9, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Huck is a misfortune that has befallen this country: a lying scheming populist who will use his faith to split the Republican Party among partial Conservatives of various stripes. The most gullible among the Evangelicals will fall for him, perhaps giving him the nomination. He will then revert to his high-tax, pro-illegal, ignorant on foreign policy profile trying to out-pander Hillobama thus making the choice between the Republicans and Democrats in the general election almost academic.
Igor R. on January 9, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Visualize the Huckabee administration: what will it accomplish for America? Are you highly concerned about preventive health care on the Federal level? Is an anti-abortion amendment an all-consuming theme for you? Are you excited about an ignorant provincial governor attempting to confront the Islamic threat, China, and Russia? Do you want to bet the sanctity of this country’s borders on Huckabee not flipping one more time? Do you trust the guy who increased taxes like that was his goal in life and is now obfuscating his record to actually lower Federal taxes? Do you really believe he has any chance to pass the FairTax? Do you really want the FairTax?
But yeah, he is pretty quick with a little wink and a joke, and man is he good with a guitar! I give you the President of the United States, panderer and illegal child educator in chief Mike Huckabee!
Igor R. on January 9, 2008 at 10:34 PM
I’ll be honest, I’ve never seen Huck play a guitar. Is he good?
I mean, I’ve seen him rockin’ on the bass many times. But never a guitar. My loss, I guess.
huckfan on January 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM
huckfan, some people just call it “a guitar”:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080109/OPINION04/801090325/1072
Igor R. on January 9, 2008 at 10:40 PM
I see your point. People who don’t agree with you are obviously not thinking independently. So we need to quit thinking for ourselves, because then we’ll be thinking independently.
I wonder how many people have been persuaded by this “logic.”
I also wonder if this level of reasoning is typical of Huckabee supporters. Might explain a few things. Like being Huckabee supporters.
theregoestheneighborhood on January 9, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Um, yeah, Igor, people that don’t know the difference between a guitar and a bass could refer to them as one and the same. I guess.
huckfan on January 9, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Um, yeah. Okay. Follow. Never think. Never read. It’s all good. The “conservative” pundits will tell you what to think.
huckfan on January 9, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Some people call them bass…guitars. Or if you want to be really precise, “electric bass guitars.” Shocking, I know.
JeepGirl on January 9, 2008 at 10:57 PM
huckfan has been tokin’ on that Huckadoobie too long. Huck is whack!
Seriously, telling complete strangers that they are incapable of independent thought because they don’t like your candidate isn’t exactly the strongest debate position. It’s the equivalent of saying “I know you are but what am I?”
Why don’t you give us substantive reasons to support Huck, instead of name-calling?
common sensineer on January 9, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Conservative judges, balanced budget, knowing who our true enemy is.
’nuff?
huckfan on January 9, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Even democrats can balance a budget a la Huckabee (hint: it’s not cutting spending.) How about endorsing democrats instead of republicans in your own state legislature? Is that the brand of conservatism you’re selling?
common sensineer on January 9, 2008 at 11:07 PM
I try to be tolerant of such people. It’s those who can’t tell the difference between a conservative and a liberal that kind of bother me.
Of course, one common characteristic of a liberal is the attempt to fool people into thinking you’re conservative. It takes independent thinking to see through the deception.
Uh-oh…
theregoestheneighborhood on January 9, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Don’t let those conservative pundits tell you how to think! Let us tell you how to think!
(Channeling Rush)
Who do you want to tell you how to think? A politician, or a highly-trained broadcast professional?
theregoestheneighborhood on January 9, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Mi amigo, we are talking about Rush, no? Ahem. Exactly what training is required to be a broadcast professional?
huckfan on January 9, 2008 at 11:25 PM
NO!
Rudy is the BEST ONE, to get the Strict Constructionist Judges CONFIRMED!
He’s the best overall candidate.
He’s the best person to advance a Pro-Life agenda than ANYONE as the senate cannot claim him to be a extreme right winger.
Chakra Hammer on January 9, 2008 at 11:26 PM
You’re obviously not a Rush listener.
theregoestheneighborhood on January 9, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Huckabee preaches to us that on health care we need to focus on prevention, so why doesn’t he tell his fat son to run a few miles before he gets diabetes?
Chakra Hammer on January 9, 2008 at 11:29 PM
And if he did tell his fat son run a few hundred miles, why didn’t he listen to him?
Chakra Hammer on January 9, 2008 at 11:30 PM
And someone tell Huckabee to tell his fat son to quit killing dogs!
Chakra Hammer on January 9, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Maybe he does, and his son won’t listen.
Hey! Now I know why he wants to be president!
theregoestheneighborhood on January 9, 2008 at 11:31 PM
I’m Baptist, my vote goes to Rudy!
Chakra Hammer on January 9, 2008 at 5:47 PM
That would have meant so much more before Huckabee (Southern Baptist), Bill Clinton (Southern Baptist), and Jimmy Carter (Southern Baptist)….
Of course, Clinton being Southern Baptist is irrelevant, since it had no impact on the way he lived or spoke or what he did.
theregoestheneighborhood on January 9, 2008 at 11:35 PM
This man shares my views. Go Fred!
Captain America on January 10, 2008 at 12:12 AM
…so, any Huckaboobs out there still support him? If so, care to explain this? Care to explain why any other Republican should vote for this fool?
91Veteran on January 10, 2008 at 12:23 AM
I’m NOT Southern Baptist!
Chakra Hammer on January 10, 2008 at 12:44 AM
Then why are you here?
I have seen and researched and do think, and think clearly that Huckaboob is a fraud.
I don’t pay attention to what he is claiming now, I have paid attention to what his record has been.
91Veteran on January 10, 2008 at 1:24 AM
Certainly none that would support Huckabee.
91Veteran on January 10, 2008 at 1:29 AM
Okay. But I was speaking of Huckabee, Clinton, and Carter, who ARE.
Do you consider not being Southern Baptist relevant to why you’re for Giuliani?
Anyway, my point is just that Huckabee, Clinton, and Carter claiming to be Southern Baptist means that claiming to be a Baptist is less significant than it used to be. Which I think is still true, whether you’re Southern Baptist, Northern Baptist, Missionary Baptist, etc.
theregoestheneighborhood on January 10, 2008 at 2:34 AM
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