The Problem with Paul Updated
posted at 11:29 am on January 9, 2008 by Bryan
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We have a little unfinished business from yesterday. Allah had the post — TNR’s James Kirchick tracked down some old Ron Paul newsletters and found them…disturbing. Now, looking over Kirchick’s work, I have to agree with Ace that the TNR scribe steals some bases by including marginal quotes that aren’t on their face racist or crazy. It was, for instance, not insane to postulate that South Africa would become a killing ground after apartheid’s end. That’s not an argument for apartheid, by the way, or for maintaining the status quo there. It was a plausible prediction based on Africa’s terrible history of tribal and racial warfare, history that continues to this day in Zimbabwe, Sudan and elsewhere. Thankfully that prediction didn’t come to pass, and history records Nelson Mandela as the main reason why. By including that kind of material along with the truly objectionable material, Kirchick suggests a whole line of topics are entering a new taboo.
But even if you weed out the marginal stuff, there’s much, much more there and it’s bad. There’s support for David Duke.
While bashing King, the newsletters had kind words for the former Imperial Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke. In a passage titled “The Duke’s Victory,” a newsletter celebrated Duke’s 44 percent showing in the 1990 Louisiana Republican Senate primary. “Duke lost the election,” it said, “but he scared the blazes out of the Establishment.” In 1991, a newsletter asked, “Is David Duke’s new prominence, despite his losing the gubernatorial election, good for anti-big government forces?” The conclusion was that “our priority should be to take the anti-government, anti-tax, anti-crime, anti-welfare loafers, anti-race privilege, anti-foreign meddling message of Duke, and enclose it in a more consistent package of freedom.” Duke is now returning the favor, telling me that, while he will not formally endorse any candidate, he has made information about Ron Paul available on his website.
There’s paranoid support for the militia movement.
In January 1995, three months before right-wing militants bombed the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, a newsletter listed “Ten Militia Commandments,” describing “the 1,500 local militias now training to defend liberty” as “one of the most encouraging developments in America.” It warned militia members that they were “possibly under BATF [Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms] or other totalitarian federal surveillance” and printed bits of advice from the Sons of Liberty, an anti-government militia based in Alabama–among them, “You can’t kill a Hydra by cutting off its head,” “Keep the group size down,” “Keep quiet and you’re harder to find,” “Leave no clues,” “Avoid the phone as much as possible,” and “Don’t fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.”
There’s veiled anti-Semitism combined with rank stupidity.
Of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, a newsletter said, “Whether it was a setup by the Israeli Mossad, as a Jewish friend of mine suspects, or was truly a retaliation by the Islamic fundamentalists, matters little.”
Right. The actual perps and their motive “matters little,” except that Paul continually trots out the trope that the jihadis are motivated not by what their religion teaches them but by the fact that our troops protect their countries from other hostile countries. Surely even he can see that Mossad and al Qaeda would have different motives for attacking the US, even if he’s nutty enough to believe that Mossad would actually attack the US.
Paul’s defense of these newsletters has EVOLved over time, from the offending lines having been “taken out of context” to having been ghost-written by some unknown, not to him but to us, figure. Eric Dondero, who was Paul’s employee for years, says the ghost writer was Lew Rockwell. That’s very plausible; Paul and Rockwell are ideologically similar. Rockwell’s site is one of many online bastions for defenses of All Things Paul.
But here’s the thing about all of this. To borrow Paul’s spin on the 1993 WTC bombing, it actually does matter little if Paul wrote the crazy himself or had it ghostwritten under his own name. There’s a pattern developing with the Paul campaign that’s become too obvious to ignore. We have a pile of newsletters containing the more than occasional crazy. We have Paul being photographed with members of Stormfront, from whom he accepts donations. And we have Paul supporters celebrating terrorist Guy Fawkes on their big Ron Paul fundraiser day. And we have a mob of Paul supporters harassing Sean Hannity with obscenities. And despite the fact that Paul says he’s not a Truther, he has undeniably courted the Truther vote by hanging out with uber Truther Alex Jones.
Anything in the above paragraph, seen in isolation, is disturbing. But taken all together, it’s clarifying. Ron Paul isn’t just a “small government, constitutionalist libertarian.” I wish he was; that’s how he has long sold himself to the good people who have supported him all these years. But the truth is that he’s bad and many of his friends are worse. A vote for him is a vote for them. Yet Andrew Sullivan and his fellow prominent Paul supporters like NRO’s John Derbyshire remain blissfully unconcerned about it. This is serious stuff, but it hasn’t made a difference to them at all. Coming from any other candidate, and especially one they had not already publicly supported, it’s reasonable to expect that their reactions would be very, very different. Sullivan for one has treated terrorist propaganda about torture with far less caution than he’s showing with regard to Paul’s newsletters.
Back to the newsletter and then I’m done. Let’s take Paul’s latest defense at face value for a second. The best that can be said about it is that he mismanaged a newsletter and turned it over to cranks who don’t represent his views. Set aside that there’s a remarkable consistency between the views expressed in the newsletters and the views many of his supporters hold now. If Paul really didn’t write the most risible material in that newsletter, and if the ghostwriters really don’t represent his views, then he isn’t even competent enough to manage a newsletter in a way that keeps out the riffraff and represents his own thinking. Paul supporters still want to turn the executive branch of the government over to someone who exhibits this level of incompetence across a stretch of years?
I’m sorry, but that’s insane. Ron Paul has many honorable supporters among the crowd who genuinely believe that he’s just a small-government libertarian. Most of his supporters are probably of that stripe, and not part of the the Duke/Rockwell/Stormfront/Truther wing of the Paul movement at all. Now is the time for them to examine the evidence and choose whether continued support for Paul and his mob is wise or moral.
Update (AP): One of the oddest, most ominous things about this is that all of the newsletters quoted by TNR were published while Paul was a member of Congress. [Update: Not so, see below.] He’s been in office since 1976, in fact. In all that time, not one of his opponents thought to bring this stuff up? Or did they bring up, only to have it shrugged off by voters who don’t care about Paul’s association with the filthy dregs of American culture any more than the Paulnuts do?
One other thing. Paul was the money leader among the GOP candidates last quarter. He’s been something of a grassroots phenomenon for the past six months, at least. How come it took the assistant to the editor at TNR to break this open instead of some big media source? Which is to say, why is this nut given such a free ride?
Update (AP): Correction — Paul left Congress in 1985 and was reelected in 1996. Many of the newsletters were published during that period. So I amend my point. Why has it taken 10 years and five congressional elections for this crap to come out?
Update (bp): Well, some of this did come out in 1996 in the Houston Chronicle iirc. Paul was able to deflect it as statements taken out of context.
Update: Reason posts a round-up of response to the newsletters’ disclosure. Par for the course, Matthew Yglesias wins the dishonesty round. I’ve already noted Andrew Sullivan’s response in the post. The rest are interesting, especially Lew Rockwell’s non-denial. Granted, TNR has a very poor history of truthful journalism. But also granted, Kirchick has the goods in this story. Rockwell’s quoted response is non-responsive to the charges.
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Quite. And until that is the view of a majority of a constituency, it will not happen. Case in point: Murtha. He won last year in a year that was filled with political gaffes for him. But he floods his district with money. I want our guys to fight to eliminate wasteful spending, but I don’t want to give more money to Murtha just because I’m against the current system.
True enough. But on this one issue, I think it’s overblown. His primary responsibility is to his constituents, not to me.
Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 4:42 PM
I don’t, but he sure put on a lot. If he didn’t I’d criticize him for it.
And by the way, I was always referring to “moral” responsibility. Don’t act like I’m changing my argument.
And Paul has fought against unconstitutional spending for 10 terms.
Jimmy Liberty on January 9, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Or says who did write them. And what he did about it.
Jim Treacher on January 9, 2008 at 4:51 PM
Again. Republicans need to drop this they’re more racist than us narrative. It’s ridiculous.
Yes, much of liberal idealogy is built upon keeping the collective indebted to the party. Yes, many liberals are guilty of “the soft bigotry of low expectations.” That’s not news.
But many Republicans are blind with their new found racial victimhood. I hear more complaints about race in conservative forums than I care to detail. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are mentioned when they have no bearing on a particular story. And it’s only been about a decade since racial double standards have become so prevalent.
What are you going to bitch about in another ten years?
The monolithic black voting bloc is a problem. But Republicans act as if Bush cabinet appointments will assuage the correct perception that this party has a boatload of bigots. Both parties do.
And for those with poor cerebral circulation, stop yourself before you vomit out the “I’m sooo not racist” response. I get it. You’re not racist.
Well neither are all Democrats.
The Race Card on January 9, 2008 at 4:51 PM
Oh, and maybe how it could have gone on that long without him having even an inkling of it? That would help too.
Jim Treacher on January 9, 2008 at 4:53 PM
Oh, sorry didn’t see that part was addressed to me. Yeah,kind of my point, it creates an imbalance fiscally.
Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 4:58 PM
I don’t think he needs to do this.
That’d be good. He might have. Originally he didn’t talk about it at all because it’s a lose/lose situation when you’re running for congress. He’s spoken of it since. He might have fired the guy. I sure hope it wasn’t Lew.
I don’t know how long it went on, but could be a very good question.
Jimmy Liberty on January 9, 2008 at 5:00 PM
You’d better keep that thing away from any open flame.
John from WuzzaDem on January 9, 2008 at 5:01 PM
He also doesn’t need to run for president. Life is all about choices.
Jim Treacher on January 9, 2008 at 5:04 PM
And hard ignorance in all its dishonor. You might have a point if Islam was a race, or Western civ, or American, or …
Drum on January 9, 2008 at 5:16 PM
No need to dig into his distant past to find reasons to have a problem with Paul. His current foreign policy/internal security idiocies (I COULD be generous and call them merely naivety) would be more than reason enough to have a problem with him. I’d be more concerned with that than if he had been a Grand Dragon of the Klan thirty years ago.
LegendHasIt on January 9, 2008 at 5:18 PM
That’s true, he doesn’t need to. Of course, he should, since he’s the best candidate.
Jimmy Liberty on January 9, 2008 at 6:29 PM
Well, you and Stormfront and the Truthers can have Ron Paul.
Bryan on January 9, 2008 at 6:33 PM
Everybody thinks their candidate is the best one. Just some people are especially wrong.
PowWow on January 9, 2008 at 6:38 PM
Then you agree, he should come clean about the whole thing.
Jim Treacher on January 9, 2008 at 6:40 PM
We’ll take him….
all the way to November, 2008
and your neocon choice for President will still lose because the warmongering platfrom the “New” Republicans adhere to failed in 2006 when they lost the House and the Senate and it will fail this November.
What makes you think the same garbage in will result in anything but garbage out and a Dems victory?
Only Ron Paul stands for real change and a return to the Old Republican platform.
The problem though is, The “New” Republicans and the “New” Progressive’s stand for nothing more than the eventual bankruptcy of America.
At least the Paulians are trying to wake some of you up to the reality that you can’t keep inflating your way to prosperity.
Fed Up on January 9, 2008 at 6:45 PM
I’ll have you know that my bicycle shop is doing very well.
Jim Treacher on January 9, 2008 at 6:54 PM
What happens in November? Is this blimp related? Because at least that was entertaining.
PowWow on January 9, 2008 at 6:58 PM
Paul has alot of problems, one of the main ones being the group of thugs that follow him. I know all of you Paulistas are not nuts but face the truth, the majority of you are kooks. A bunch of ole burned out 60’s type hippies with a militant steak. Thats just the bottom line.
Big Orange on January 9, 2008 at 7:35 PM
Paulistas?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulistas
Fed Up on January 9, 2008 at 7:51 PM
Here in Utah there is an intense, extremist fringe that dates back from the old John Birch Society days of the 1960’s. The contents of the Ron Paul newsletters may be shocking to the New Republic crowd, but I’ve heard it all before. All the stuff about blacks and “bankers” is pretty common talk for them and Ron Paul has been one of their heroes for many years, long before his current hipness. They are my neighbors and I love them, but as far as politics goes they are batsh*t crazy and Paul is their candidate.
WasatchMan on January 9, 2008 at 8:15 PM
Better fix that: Paultards
Big Orange on January 9, 2008 at 9:07 PM
the Mental Gymnastics being implored by Paul supporters today is absolutely amazing, but then its a Cult and should be expected.
jp on January 9, 2008 at 9:08 PM
It wasn’t bad enough that we had too many wackjobs on the left, now we have to deal with the brainwashed Paultards.
William Teach on January 9, 2008 at 9:30 PM
I actually like Paulistas…I’ve been to Sao Paulo…some of the most beautiful women in the world….but that’s another story….
In the meantime, the surge is working!
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/09/iraq/main3693494.shtml
Fed Up on January 9, 2008 at 9:31 PM
A cult….you mean like that Mormon group?
Fed Up on January 9, 2008 at 9:32 PM
So if one follows the Constitution, they are “brainwashed”….I see….
Fed Up on January 9, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Paul isn’t a true “Constitutionalist”
jp on January 9, 2008 at 9:37 PM
You’re right…he’s a “strict” Constitutionalist.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0102/p01s08-uspo.html
Fed Up on January 9, 2008 at 9:46 PM
You Ronulans keep throwing out the “following the constitution” meme. Interesting, yet meaningless. What say you about the charges of him being a racist and truther?
William Teach on January 9, 2008 at 9:47 PM
You Ronulans keep throwing out the “following the constitution” meme. Interesting, yet meaningless. William Teach on January 9, 2008 at 9:47 PM
And you wonder why the Republicans lost the House and the Senate in 2006…and expect “change” in November.
Fed Up on January 9, 2008 at 10:03 PM
The Republicans are going to continue to incur losses because many people refuse to vote for these disasters of candidates. You guys who say that is irresponsible are like people who take bad care of their house not knowing why they don’t get any visitors. If some people put party loyalty to the side for a little bit, maybe conservatives can make lasting gains, but the short term strategy of the Republicans, sacrificing their ideals, making a mockery of what they called for in ‘94, is not and never will be a winning strategy from here on out. Too many have woken up, wake up already and clean your house and we might come back again.
LevStrauss on January 9, 2008 at 10:12 PM
The three biggest tools that enable big government are the income tax, the federal reserve, and the Democratic makeover of the constitution.
All Republicans or small government types should want to return to originalism.
Jimmy Liberty on January 9, 2008 at 10:47 PM
heh. call me brain-washed.
I dislike the liberals because they essentially think I am too stupid to run my own life and don’t look to them for my answers in life. Yet, what pray tell me do the Republicans have to offer?
More “McCain-Feingold” or “No Child Left Behind” fodder? Jumping on to the gun-grabbing bus? Perhaps more regime change and global democratization? More border negligence?
The fact is, the today’s Republicans offer nothing more (or less) than the Democrats. I can hardly tell them apart.
AZ_Redneck on January 9, 2008 at 10:48 PM
ROn Paul is a crank literalist, not a constitutional Originalist. a good example is his views on “declaration of wars” and “Foreign Affairs” matters. though there are others, that originalist in the Federalist Society and elsewhere would find alot of disagreement with paul.
jp on January 10, 2008 at 12:16 AM
Yawn, another anti Ron Paul headline. Who picks these. Who care, he’s not going to win. The only reason he’s doing ok is because the rest of the GOP candidates suck. I hope this isn’t the future of the GOP.
menoname on January 10, 2008 at 12:46 AM
Metro on January 10, 2008 at 12:57 AM
As if any sane person needs this to be convinced Paul is nuts.
right2bright on January 10, 2008 at 9:06 AM
So, no answer to the question, Fed up?
William Teach on January 10, 2008 at 9:11 AM
That black and white shot of Ron paul looks remarkably similar to one of those generic “Hitler giving a speech and banging his fist” shots. If that was the intention good job, if not even better subliminal messages are fun
Joey1974 on January 10, 2008 at 10:47 AM
Nice work. The entire “problem with Paul” is documented and sourced right here in this post.
OneGyT on January 10, 2008 at 11:43 AM
What question? I don’t run away from anything with you neocons.
I also don’t have the time to look through every post to find your query. I did look through this page and found nothing.
Post it here and I’ll answer it.
Fed Up on January 11, 2008 at 10:00 PM
Neocons? It’s okay, Fed Up, you can say it: International bankers.
Jim Treacher on January 13, 2008 at 4:00 PM
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