Surprise! Woman who stoked Hillary’s tears didn’t vote for her
posted at 1:35 pm on January 9, 2008 by Bryan
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Of the many odd, outlier-ish aspects of the New Hampshire results — like McCain winning among both pro and anti-war Republicans — this one has to top them all. The woman who asked the question that made Hillary cry says, first, she’s not a plant. I was disinclined to believe that, since she has turned out to have been Jimmy Carter’s photographer. Small world and all that. Her name is Marianne Pernold Young, and at 64 years old she’s right in Hillary’s winning demographics — not young and not male. She asked the kind of question you’d expect of a Hillaryite, and especially of a campaign floral arrangement.
On Monday, Pernold Young went to Cafe Espresso in Portsmouth, N. H., where Clinton was taking questions from a group of about 16 undecided, most women, voters.
Standing in the back, she asked Clinton a question that appeared to take the senator by surprise.
“My question is very personal, how do you do it?” Pernold Young asked, mentioning that Clinton’s hair and appearance always looking perfectly coifed. “How do you, how do you keep upbeat and so wonderful?”
But shock of all shocks, Young fell for the same vacuous crap that’s drawing younger voters to another candidate.
But in the end, she said it was Obama’s message of hope and change that won her vote.
“I went to see Obama on Friday and he moved me to tears, I was in awe,” she said in a telephone interview with ABC News. “I’m 64 years old and nobody does that to me.”
We seem to be picking our leaders by the stupidest criteria. Can I make them cry? Then they win a primary. Can they make me cry? They get my vote. Do they represent some nebulous “change” without much in the way of specifics? Then they’re the next JFK. &c
I think I may be sick.
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I’m just passing this along from Adam Corolla:
End Women’s suffrage.
Editor on January 9, 2008 at 1:38 PM
WTF is wrong with these people? Seriously!
BJ* on January 9, 2008 at 1:38 PM
So the woman whose question may have helped Hillary defeat Obama in NH voted for…Obama. Wow.
amerpundit on January 9, 2008 at 1:41 PM
do you want the whole list or just the top 10 ??
Mojack420 on January 9, 2008 at 1:41 PM
I think you are missing something. There is a value in a unified America that transcends policy. Obama is touching that. Much like Huck’s support touches values that (for his supporters) transcend policy. I could be wrong, but I think BDS and CDS has worn out a lot of people.
Now, I’m not saying he would bring everybody together to sing kumbaya. That’s not my point. My point is that is what his rhetoric is and as a legitimate Washington outsider he has credibility on that in a way no one else does.
Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 1:42 PM
Wuss nation.
petefrt on January 9, 2008 at 1:43 PM
“We seem to be picking our leaders by the stupidest criteria. Can I make them cry? Then they win a primary. Can they make me cry? They get my vote. Do they represent some nebulous “change” without much in the way of specifics? Then they’re the next JFK. &c”
Funniest post evah.
JamesP on January 9, 2008 at 1:44 PM
Bread and circuses!Free (insert anything the Dems want) and American Idol mentality of voting.MJR on January 9, 2008 at 1:45 PM
Maybe she felt so guilty for opening the flood gates that she had to counter balance it? Either that or she thought her only choice was Obama after Clinton melted due to her own tears.
Torch on January 9, 2008 at 1:45 PM
End liberal Women’s Suffrage.
Conservative women like Michelle Malkin, Tammy Bruce, and Laura Ingram should be encouraged to vote early and often.
Mike Honcho on January 9, 2008 at 1:46 PM
Bread and Circuses!Free (insert any Dem program) and American Idol mentality.MJR on January 9, 2008 at 1:47 PM
That’s it then. I have to vote for James Caan for President because when he played Brian Picolo dying of cancer in Brian’s song, well, I cried.
pistolero on January 9, 2008 at 1:47 PM
I think you hit the nail on the head on this election cycle. Many of us have been shaking our heads wondering why some people are doing better than others.
Take Huckamania. As a life long republican I cant understand why huck is doing so well ? His positions are really moderate to liberal. Yet evangelicals go for him.
But the point can be made it isnt about issues its about how he is perceived. He is the “Christian” candidate and thats how his supporters see him. It isnt based on fact but on perception.
I think when we see that many americans cant find places on the world map and we see the rise of the truther movement an ugly fact comes out that americans are not that informed (or want to be) on very many issues. They are reacting to basic impulses rather than detail facts.
Hence Ron Paul and Huckabee and Obama and Clinton arent winning on issues they are winning on “I feel like this person is for me”
And explains why Fred does so poorly. He’s fighting on issues and people dont care about issues right now. They want to elect a popular president rather than an informed one.
William Amos on January 9, 2008 at 1:47 PM
Enough of this crap, Michelle Malkin for President. Seriously!!!
mattyj86 on January 9, 2008 at 1:49 PM
I passed sick a long time ago. And to think we have what, 10 more months of this crap? Yechhhh.
jdawg on January 9, 2008 at 1:56 PM
I question the timing. And, again, I remind the good citizens of this nation that no where in the constitution is it required to hold popular elections for the POTUS.
locomotivebreath1901 on January 9, 2008 at 1:57 PM
MJR you nailed it…
“and American Idol mentality of voting.”
“your detailed positions and your plans all seem right on pitch, you are technically 100% correct about foreign policy… but i just didn’t FEEL it dawg, so I’m gonna have to pass…Paula?”
max1 on January 9, 2008 at 1:59 PM
So sad, so true.
geckomon on January 9, 2008 at 1:59 PM
Hey guys more Fred vids up!
Donate as well!
broker1 on January 9, 2008 at 1:59 PM
SECOND LOOK AT THE 19th AMENDMENT!
billy on January 9, 2008 at 2:03 PM
Let’s hope the rest of the nation isn’t as gullible as the folks in Iowa and New Hampsha.
I can dream can’t I?
fogw on January 9, 2008 at 2:04 PM
Zetterson on January 9, 2008 at 2:04 PM
Damn sheeple! always getting in our way!11!
billy on January 9, 2008 at 2:08 PM
it’s a cover up…
she is a plant from the Clintoon camp
and they know now that the press is going to ask.
so we get this…story.
I don’t buy it.
efears on January 9, 2008 at 2:10 PM
Right there with you.
Hawkins1701 on January 9, 2008 at 2:18 PM
I’m ordering a bigger bucket…I’ll send one to you, dear Bryan.
Christine on January 9, 2008 at 2:23 PM
One of Reagan’s strong points was that he had a message of hope and a vision for the future. I think that more than anything else created the “Reagan-democrats”. In a war weary nation, uncertain and leery of the future in a confused and chaotic world, a message of hope is going to play well. Reagan brought hope through a vision of self-determination, individual liberty and peace through strength. Although Obama is nearly the opposite in his policies, the end message has a similarity. I can see former Reagan-democrats being Obama-democrats, and maybe he’ll create Obama-Republicans.
I wouldn’t go to his camp because his policies are more of the same failed socialism that has weakened the nation and could eventually destroy the America we know and love. Still, I can see why many would appreciate his message and see it as a breath of fresh air and a further perceive it as a true voice of change.
deepdiver on January 9, 2008 at 2:23 PM
I already am. All this after only two states?!
I hearby declare that I am on sick leave due to an uncontrollable case of crying until November 4. Who will be crying then?
Brat on January 9, 2008 at 2:24 PM
Maybe it’s that people are either too lazy or too busy to really take the time to make an informed decision, so they take the easy way out by just voting for who makes them feel good. I have nothing to back this up, just a gut feeling but my husband has mentioned this before and I think he may have a point. So many people now are so busy with careers, kids, driving to the next soccer game, ballet lesson etc., how many of them really take the time to watch the news, read the paper and read the blogs? I mean lets face it, as popular as blogs seem to be I don’t know one person, other than myself who actually visits them or posts on them on a daily basis and I think I know a good amount of people.
When I tell my mother or her friends or relatives so and so said this or so and so has this position on this, they have no idea. Now I really shouldn’t include my mother I guess. Her problem is she is too lazy to inform herself, she’s a diehard democrat and whoever is popular at the moment is her man (or woman). Sad, I know.
But many other people I know I have explained someones position and they really just had no idea. I just want to shake them and say, fer chrissakes, your gonna vote? Get informed first, PLEASE!
jewells45 on January 9, 2008 at 2:26 PM
I am still confused about the Democrat strategy here. If they let Obama get too far they risk (finally) losing the black vote.
They could be handing Clinton her hat for that reason. She will have to convince the Democrat powers-that-be (not voters) that she is better for them.
After all - Democrats are masters of voter fraud. They can/will make the primaries come out any way they want.
If they conclude they can win no matter what then it is Clinton. If they don;t want to take any chances then it will be Obama.
Agrippa2k on January 9, 2008 at 2:30 PM
You’re absolutely right about this. On Fox, they discussed that people involved choose on issues but most voters choose on “likeability” and actively say that “issues dont mean much to me, personality does”.
One 35 year old woman in Luntz group after the debate in NH said that McCain was her man and then she said “But a friend of mine said he was too old and yeah, I changed my mind”.
Are you kidding? Im not a McCain fan but to say that some guy says 3 words to you and you get swayed? Wow.
broker1 on January 9, 2008 at 2:30 PM
And that’s frightening to those of us with our heads screwed on straight, since terrorists are lurking at our water’s edge.
The MSM and the Dems have waved their magic wands and terrorism has all but disappeared. Let’s all feel safe, and shed tears because we are.
Wake up America.
fogw on January 9, 2008 at 2:31 PM
Rush is now making the argument that Obama may have won in Iowa because the the caucus’s are open. And if most of your friends were for Obama, you didnt want to look like a racist and go sit with Hillary so they all went with their friends and went to the Obama campt. To where in NH it wasnt like that, they told pollsters that they were going to vote for Obama but when it came time in the private they voted for Hillary. Again, hes just throwing it out there.
Wow
broker1 on January 9, 2008 at 2:34 PM
Princess Diana, as Melanie Phillips said.
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on January 9, 2008 at 2:38 PM
If issues don’t mean much to people we are truly and royally screwed. Al Queda patiently waits. Good grief, I want to go cry. Oh sh*t, not really.
jewells45 on January 9, 2008 at 2:44 PM
Amen. I was talking about voting with some other women in my neighborhood and we were discussing how hard it was to be completely informed about local candidates. Both the liberal Dems said, “We just look for the women and vote for them.” Arggh.
I think there is something to the idea that people are just looking for anyone they can rally around after eight years of Clinton shenanigans and the ugliness of the anti-Bush brigrades for the last several years. My liberal NY in-laws and relatives are all swooning over Obama and they were die-hard Hillary fans just months ago. Obama fits the liberal “I don’t care how or if it works, I just want to feel like I’m changing the world” mentality perfectly.
(I apologize if everything is run together but there were no line breaks on Preview and nothing I did to change that would work.)
inmypajamas on January 9, 2008 at 2:55 PM
Love means never havng to say you’re sorry.
labrat on January 9, 2008 at 2:55 PM
What a fragile, vulnerable block of goo! To be in awe of another human is not healthy. Admire qualities and strive to emulate, yes, but a sane individual would reserve awestruck reverence for Almighty God.
What’s really frightening is to think back on Time contributor and White House correspondent Nina Burleigh’s comments on the last “rock star” president:
I wonder what these awestruck wackos have in mind for the Big O.
T J Green on January 9, 2008 at 3:12 PM
I think, more than any other election, New Hampshire should be considered a text-book case of voter manipulation.
You must give credit to the Clinton machine for pulling off their ‘rise from the ashes’ gambit.
Because they have now expended their crying routine, I can hardly wait to see what they’ll do next - the magnificent bastards.
pocomoco on January 9, 2008 at 3:40 PM
Mega Dittos
RobCon on January 9, 2008 at 4:55 PM
That was one of the funniest things Ive heard all day
NickTx on January 9, 2008 at 5:13 PM
Melanie Phillips is awesome.
NickTx on January 9, 2008 at 5:14 PM
Issues, what issues?
/s/
SPIFF1669 on January 9, 2008 at 6:25 PM
What!?! Liberals acting against their principals!?! No way…
greekinfidel on January 9, 2008 at 6:38 PM
We seem to be picking our leaders by the stupidest criteria. Can I make them cry? Then they win a primary. Can they make me cry? They get my vote. Do they represent some nebulous “change” without much in the way of specifics? Then they’re the next JFK. &c
Hi Brian,
When you say ‘we’ I’m pretty sure you mean the Democrats (and the MSM, but I repeat myself). There aren’t many on this site (oh, maybe a few honest ones plus the Soros trolls) who would agree that they are the ‘we’ you refer to, but most like ‘me’ won’t.
Best Wishes,
‘me’
AUINSC on January 9, 2008 at 7:25 PM
I am reminded of author Dan Simmons’ sobering tale from his website last April, with this quote especially:
LordDilly on January 9, 2008 at 8:17 PM
As a possible plant, she did not get the response of strength she was expecting, thus causing her to change her mind.
But, Hitlery used the question to soaked up the sympathy vote.
MSGTAS on January 10, 2008 at 8:37 AM