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posted at 12:25 am on January 9, 2008 by Allahpundit

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Ouch, baby. Very ouch. NH ruled him out early though I think by skipping their debate. They thumbed their nose back at him.

Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 12:28 AM

in a just world that would be Ron Paul on the right in that pic, especially after Fred’s recent debate performance and of course the nail in paul’s coffin.

We live in a crazy world

jp on January 9, 2008 at 12:28 AM

The truth is out there

William Amos on January 9, 2008 at 12:30 AM

FredDead head

lan astaslem on January 9, 2008 at 12:31 AM

I just don’t understand why…

AlexB on January 9, 2008 at 12:32 AM

New Hampshire state motto: “Live Free or Die”

billy on January 9, 2008 at 12:33 AM

Fred’s very public declaration of blowing off New Hampshire likely ticked off a lot of people. I know he has contempt for the kingmakers of the world, but he needs to be a little more private about it.

Fred knew there were no delegates for him there; he certainly didn’t waste the millions that Rudy did to get nothing.

He better finish at least a strong second in South Carolina; if not, put the campaign on life support and hope for enough negative campaigning ‘disgust’ votes and a fully balkanized brokered convention.

michaelo on January 9, 2008 at 12:33 AM

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Patriot33 on January 9, 2008 at 12:34 AM

Oh, now that is funny.

*cue Law & Order bumper gong*

The Ugly American on January 9, 2008 at 12:34 AM

He better finish at least a strong second in South Carolina

If he finishes second in SC, where is he going to get a victory?

Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 12:34 AM

Ouch!

Mojave Mark on January 9, 2008 at 12:36 AM

I hate to break this to the Fred!heads, but Fred Thompson is the Snakes on a Plane candidate – lots of net hype = not much at the box office. The premise sounds like a lot of fun, but the actual product didn’t live up to expectations.

A lot of people on the Internet really, really wanted him to run. He wasn’t super-enthusiastic, but he let himself get talked into it. He’s not a bad guy at all. If I was going to choose a candidate purely on ideology, he’d probably be my top pick. But he’s shown himself to be completely inept at putting together and running a campaign. The months of cock-teasing “Maaaaaaaaaybe I’ll run” turned a lot of people off, and the organizational chaos cast serious doubts on his executive abilities.

He’s not going to win. He’s not even going to get close. He’d make a fine VP, if he’s interested in that. I’m not saying this because he placed low in two tiny states – I’m saying this because he’s running very low on money, and his campaign is finally starting to resemble something professional – and it’s a less than a month away from Super Tuesday.

ErikTheRed on January 9, 2008 at 12:37 AM

Fred has won the Guinness Book of World Records for accomplishing the most while putting forth the least effort.

SECOND LOOK AT THE GENIUS OF FRED DALTON THOMPSON!

Mcguyver on January 9, 2008 at 12:38 AM

We’re seeing a surprisingly tepid reaction to Fred in the comments tonight.

For my own part, I admit to cackling like a demon while putting this little graphic “quote” together.

Allahpundit on January 9, 2008 at 12:39 AM

That’s just so wrong on so many levels.

SouthernGent on January 9, 2008 at 12:40 AM

In a state that would elect McVain I’m surprised Fred broke 1.0

Griz on January 9, 2008 at 12:41 AM

If Texas snubbed every candidate who failed to make repeated tours of our state, visit every one of our quaint diners, and participate in every one of our debates, none of us would ever vote for anyone.

Must be nice to live in NH or Iowa, where you can demand that candidates personally shake your hand before you’d even consider voting for them. The rest of us can go a lifetime without ever seeing a single presidential candidate in person. Get over yourselves, New Hampshire!

aero on January 9, 2008 at 12:41 AM

Fred has the message but not the method. He should fire his staff they stink

William Amos on January 9, 2008 at 12:43 AM

As misguided as he may be on some issues, Ron Paul worked long and hard for his votes in New Hampshire. Thompson did not.

Thompson ticks me off big time, even more that Ron Paul, becuase Thompson is better than the campaign he has run. When otherwise good candidates don’t campaign hard the election suffers and so do the people.

Tim Pancoast on January 9, 2008 at 12:45 AM

Fred has the message but not the method. He should fire his staff they stink

William Amos on January 9, 2008 at 12:43 AM

Unfortunately, no matter how good your ideas are, if you can’t put together a campaign, you’re probably not qualified to be President.

ErikTheRed on January 9, 2008 at 12:46 AM

You’re terrible, AP. And awesome at the same time.

Vizzini on January 9, 2008 at 12:47 AM

Folks, delegates is what matters at the end, nothing else. Only 4% of those have been selected and Fred is 4th there, not far behind tonight’s ‘big winner’. Everything else is media hype and perception.

Victories; with this evenly spread field, it would actually be possible to win it out in second place all the way, though very unlikely. Fred would have to win much of the South to have a real shot; a strong second in South Carolina could get something rolling.

michaelo on January 9, 2008 at 12:49 AM

Unfortunately, no matter how good your ideas are, if you can’t put together a campaign, you’re probably not qualified to be President.

ErikTheRed on January 9, 2008 at 12:46 AM

Eh Fred waited too long to get into the race and he ran it too poorly. It takes years to perfect a good presidentual campaign.

That said if I was ever lucky enough to be hired by Fred I know I could do better. He has the message we want to hear he just isnt putting it across the right way. He is playing his campaign part more like a lawyer and less like the actor.

William Amos on January 9, 2008 at 12:49 AM

UNITY’08

ninjapirate on January 9, 2008 at 12:50 AM

For my own part, I admit to cackling like a demon while putting this little graphic “quote” together.

Allahpundit on January 9, 2008 at 12:39 AM

So who are you down for now, AP?

Me, I’m voting a new guy you may not have heard of yet, but I suspect you will all become quite familiar with in a few months. His name is Nott Hilorbarry. You’re gonna love him, I promise :)

Hannibal Smith on January 9, 2008 at 12:50 AM

For my own part, I admit to cackling like a demon while putting this little graphic “quote” together.

Because it’s funny. Not counting the visits before he official announced, who has been on Fox more during the campaign? Kucinich or Fred?

Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 12:50 AM

It takes years to perfect a good presidential campaign.

True, but remember all the bigs that were there right at the beginning, Frist, etc. He had the insiders counseling him…and didn’t he bring Abraham on bc he was a campaign stud?

Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 12:52 AM

True, but remember all the bigs that were there right at the beginning, Frist, etc. He had the insiders counseling him…and didn’t he bring Abraham on bc he was a campaign stud?

Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 12:52 AM

Like I said he got some bad advice.

William Amos on January 9, 2008 at 12:53 AM

New Hampshire state motto: “Live Free or Die”

billy on January 9, 2008 at 12:33 AM

According to Rush, so many economic refugees have moved to New Hampshire from Massachusetts that the dynamic is much more liberal, perhaps the “change” motto might be, Live Loony or Cry.

Speakup on January 9, 2008 at 12:53 AM

UGH! Their water needs analysis.
A double take at NewHamp.

christophercube on January 9, 2008 at 12:55 AM

it’s like some fantasy “odd couple” sitcom

RMC1618 on January 9, 2008 at 12:55 AM

I guess that’s kind of funny, but sooner or later, folks on the Right are gonna hafta stop giggling and figure out how to keep the Messianic N00b out of the White House.

SlimyBill on January 9, 2008 at 12:58 AM

I find fred candidacy offensive, he has no drive energy or vigor…

No matter what his positions are he wouldn’t have the energy to get them accomplished..

He wasn’t a very good senator and had no real accomplishments there. (other than being a co-sponsor to McCain-Feingold)

We are at WAR, we need a Candidate that has the stamina and will to fight! Also someone that can stay the hell awake!

Chakra Hammer on January 9, 2008 at 1:00 AM

We’re seeing a surprisingly tepid reaction to Fred in the comments tonight.

For my own part, I admit to cackling like a demon while putting this little graphic “quote” together.

Allahpundit on January 9, 2008 at 12:39 AM

AP, you should have put “write-in” @ 2% on the left with that pic of you in the winking paper bag mask and the “dude” t-shirt.

joewm315 on January 9, 2008 at 1:01 AM

Congratulations Allah you’re a winner. I hope you like your Huckabee prize

abrown28 on January 9, 2008 at 1:01 AM

We’re seeing a surprisingly tepid reaction to Fred in the comments tonight.

For my own part, I admit to cackling like a demon while putting this little graphic “quote” together.

Allahpundit on January 9, 2008 at 12:39 AM

You don’t often see a blogger trying to troll his own thread. ;)

The wound is salty enough already. Thanks though. I think there might be some kids next door who still believe in Santa Claus, maybe you should go break the news to them while you’re at it. Maybe tell them they’re adopted too.

Hollowpoint on January 9, 2008 at 1:02 AM

I find fred candidacy offensive

Take it up with the human rights commission.

joewm315 on January 9, 2008 at 1:02 AM

I will never go skiing in New Hampshire again…not that it’s even that great or anything to begin with.

How the Heck can UFO boy get more votes than Thompson??? Boggles the mind…

JetBoy on January 9, 2008 at 1:03 AM

For my own part, I admit to cackling like a demon while putting this little graphic “quote” together.

Allahpundit on January 9, 2008 at 12:39 AM

Good for you, AP. I’m glad it makes you happy.

As for myself, I’ll be laughing my pants off when Huckabee gets the nomination and announced McCain as his VP.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2008 at 1:04 AM

Perhaps N.H. has more TofuPup fans than previously known.

larkydozer on January 9, 2008 at 1:05 AM

New Hampshirites HATE Fred ever since the debate he skipped. Couple that with zero investment of time and money in the state and you get 1%.

UKFB2 on January 9, 2008 at 1:05 AM

I think there might be some kids next door who still believe in Santa Claus, maybe you should go break the news to them while you’re at it.

That’s an apt analogy.

Allahpundit on January 9, 2008 at 1:05 AM

Unfortunately, no matter how good your ideas are, if you can’t put together a campaign, you’re probably not qualified to be President.

ErikTheRed on January 9, 2008 at 12:46 AM

Yeah, that’s what always goes down in the history books when they talk about past Presidents- “Great on policy, had a good agenda, but considered a failure because his campaign skills were lacking”.

If only Carter and Clinton would’ve been better campaigners, they’d have made GREAT Presidents!

Hollowpoint on January 9, 2008 at 1:07 AM

That’s an apt analogy.

Allahpundit on January 9, 2008 at 1:05 AM

YOU CAN’T PROVE THAT SANTA ISN’T REAL SO THERE!

Hollowpoint on January 9, 2008 at 1:09 AM

As misguided as he may be on some issues, Ron Paul worked long and hard for his votes in New Hampshire.

New Hampshire not only has different expectations when it comes to Presidential candidates, they also are known for their high numbers of Libertarian voters. No surprise that R. Paul would do well there.

But since Senator Thompson didn’t do well in New Hampshire I guess there is no need to ask voters in California or Texas what they think. /sarc

Browncoatone on January 9, 2008 at 1:09 AM

We’re seeing a surprisingly tepid reaction to Fred in the comments tonight.

For my own part, I admit to cackling like a demon while putting this little graphic “quote” together.

Allahpundit on January 9, 2008 at 12:39 AM

Anything for a high post count. Come on Fred heads, start fighting back! That is what he is looking for.

Smiles on January 9, 2008 at 1:10 AM

I just don’t understand why…

AlexB on January 9, 2008 at 12:32 AM

I don’t know if that was sarc or not, but the truth is that this has turned into a Hollywood type contest. Sorta like American Idol…how else could Obama be on such a high right now?

Even though Thompson probably has the most ‘Hollywood’ experience, he is not “Hollywood”. He doesn’t communicate his message well. He just does not have the charisma that is needed in today’s race even though he is the candidate that has our values in mind.

Tonight showed that the press is hyping up this whole contest. Obama was supposed to clean Clinton’s clock…didn’t happen. And to be honest I was quite surprised when I saw the number of ppl at the Obama rallies . Does that mean that all of Clinton supporters were working during the rallies or that the media was ‘managing the news’?

Either way, I feel horrible about our future. The Dems project called the NEA is working ppl. Dumb down the electorate and you will be successful in controlling the vote.
/end_rant

lsutiger on January 9, 2008 at 1:11 AM

The wound is salty enough already.

If it’s any consolation, those of us who considered Rudy as a possible candidate also got hit tonight with McCain clearly becoming the security candidate – no need for Rudy now.

Hollowpoint on January 9, 2008 at 1:07 AM

I actually agree, and I thought T. Bruce was wrong on this point. In his pressers, P. Bush has said a few times that he is glad he isn’t campaigning this season. Well that would show quite clearly that it is distinctly different, so I’ll take it from him and not someone who has done neither.

Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 1:11 AM

“in a just world that would be Ron Paul on the right in that pic, especially after Fred’s recent debate performance and of course the nail in paul’s coffin.”

Maybe he should have done the debate and not Leno.

Christoph on January 9, 2008 at 1:13 AM

But since Senator Thompson didn’t do well in New Hampshire I guess there is no need to ask voters in California or Texas what they think. /sarc

Browncoatone on January 9, 2008 at 1:09 AM

Oh yeah. I didn’t even think about that.
Sure Fred! did poorly in NH, only 1.2% of the vote (not so bad really!)but may be he’ll do much better in… California!

billy on January 9, 2008 at 1:19 AM

Well, it’s only four years till then next cycle, between now and then we could get hit by a bus.


No voy a llorar sobre la leche derramada o fines de estrellas de cine

Kini on January 9, 2008 at 1:20 AM

We’re seeing a surprisingly tepid reaction to Fred in the comments tonight.
Allahpundit on January 9, 2008 at 12:39 AM

The Fredhead koolaide detoxification program has debuted,
lord have mercy, lord have mercy, lord have mercy.

.
.
Another charming factoid to chew on:

Fred was supposed to be the real conservative candidate that draws votes away from Mitt.
How’s he doing?
.
.

Huckabee was supposed to be the Christian candidate to draw votes away from the “unchristian” Mitt.
How’s he doing?

“One dolla, one dolla, one dolla now two.”

Auctioneer hollers out, looks at bidder, “what do you give for this paper Jesus doll here?”

In a public format the “bidder” wants to be noticed for his/her Christianity.

But when it’s a silent and private “auction” they don’t bid to impress, they bid however they damn well please.

That my friends is what happened in Iowa to Huckabee, because they all stand around in the Caucus, look at each other, “who are you going to vote for?” .

Same thing happens when the pollsters ask, “who would you vote for?”
Because poll questions are not going to be private, meaning the polled will go and cackle about how she/he would “would vote” because they want to “impress” in accordance with whomever is around them.

But when they go into the private voting booth they vote however they damn well please.

This is the reason actual votes turn out different than the polls suggested, last minute decisions notwithstanding.

Mcguyver on January 9, 2008 at 1:21 AM

If it’s any consolation, those of us who considered Rudy as a possible candidate also got hit tonight with McCain clearly becoming the security candidate – no need for Rudy now

McCain’s victory,IMHO, will be short-lived .
The race is still wide open.

billy on January 9, 2008 at 1:22 AM

SECOND LOOK AT KUCINICH!

Kini on January 9, 2008 at 1:22 AM

I would love to see Dennis and Fred head out campaigning in a Winnebago. They could be the next Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie.

Vote Kucinich…In Case of Rapture…A Department of Peace for the Prince of Peace

ninjapirate on January 9, 2008 at 1:23 AM

That’s ugly. In more ways than one.

baldilocks on January 9, 2008 at 1:24 AM

The Fredhead koolaide detoxification program has debuted,
lord have mercy, lord have mercy, lord have mercy.
Mcguyver on January 9, 2008 at 1:21 AM

As a Fredhead I must admit I had a good laugh over that one.

Sorry, even though Allah believes he has front row center at my Fredhead funeral, I’ve got Fred-garlic.

You guys will have to convince me that 1.5% isn’t a good thing.

Limerick on January 9, 2008 at 1:25 AM

For my own part, I admit to cackling like a demon while putting this little graphic “quote” together.

You’re going to start believing in hell and then go there, for this. :-)

With Giuliani tanking in Florida polls, he may be toast before we Floridians get a chance to tell him to cart his Yankee-Doodle butt back to 9/11-ville. With two viable “The War On Terror II: More Invasions and Occupations” candidates still in the race, what does Rudy offer? Nothing positive that I can see. I think he’s done.

Mark Jaquith on January 9, 2008 at 1:26 AM

SECOND LOOK AT KUCINICH!

Kini on January 9, 2008 at 1:22 AM

very nice.

lan astaslem on January 9, 2008 at 1:29 AM

Bah, I was reading the “Giuliani in fourth in FL” link and came back to the wrong comment form. But I’ll try to tie it all together: With Fred on his way out, and Giuliani likely on his way out, the viable choices are Huck, Mitt, and McCain. We knew it was coming, but Jesus — that’s a frightening prospect. They all three majorly suck, for different reasons. There are solid reasons that a good segment of Conservatives and Right-Libertarians won’t want to vote for any of them. And with Democratic poll-goers trouncing Republicans in numbers so far, I think we’re looking at Clinton or Obama.

Mark Jaquith on January 9, 2008 at 1:32 AM

Ouch, baby. Very ouch. NH ruled him out early though I think by skipping their debate. They thumbed their nose back at him.

I really hope that’s not how Americans vote.

“Well, I like his policies, but he didn’t spend enough time in my state even though he’s running for President and not governer. So I won’t give him my vote”

He sounded very good over the last few days on the news channels, so it’s either that, or noone who votes watches the news. Or it doesn’t have any impact on them..

Reaps on January 9, 2008 at 1:37 AM

Oh yeah, and for another ‘quote’

CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE CHANGE hillary mccain.

Reaps on January 9, 2008 at 1:38 AM

And AP twists the knife…

someguy on January 9, 2008 at 1:39 AM

Mark Jaquith on January 9, 2008 at 1:32 AM

Apparently there is still room for more crosses to bear on Mount Calvary.

I can only hope for a resurrection.

Kini on January 9, 2008 at 1:40 AM

Among other strange occurrences of the day, I’m watching the post-NH Ron Paul rally on C-SPAN right now and it’s so strangely surreal. He’s going on about the dollar and the gold standard and eliminating the Fed and they’re going freakin’ crazy. It’s gonna be a weird election year, folks.

someguy on January 9, 2008 at 1:41 AM

Fred needs to just drop out now. His attitude is getting annoying. It’s like running for president is a pain in the butt for him.

froghat on January 9, 2008 at 1:42 AM

Oh yeah. I didn’t even think about that.
Sure Fred! did poorly in NH, only 1.2% of the vote (not so bad really!)but may be he’ll do much better in… California!

billy on January 9, 2008 at 1:19 AM

Ha ha ha ha ha, you really didn’t think that one through very well did you…Let me spell this one out for you…California…Hollywood….Fred Thompson….ACTOR….

Remember Arnold??? You know…The Govanator? News Flash…California likes voting for ACTORS…..

doriangrey on January 9, 2008 at 1:45 AM

Fred needs to just drop out now. His attitude is getting annoying. It’s like running for president is a pain in the butt for him.

froghat on January 9, 2008 at 1:42 AM

If you find Fred annoying maybe you should grow some skin.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2008 at 1:48 AM

I think this will be my last year voting as a republican. They only managed to get three conservatives into the race, and the only one with a chance to win it criticized because he isn’t shaking enough hands or kissing enough babies (or ass I guess) or wearing enough funny hats.

On the plus side, with such a lack luster group of front runners, we will probably lose to a weak democrat candidate this year and only have to wait four more years to find a conservative candidate to run. Just hope we can find one whose top priority is kissing reporter’s ass and jumping through hoops.

n2sooners on January 9, 2008 at 1:53 AM

doriangrey on January 9, 2008 at 1:45 AM

Oh yea, and who was that other ACTOR California kept voting for? His name escapes me at the moment, I think he was even elected governor of California…twice…

doriangrey on January 9, 2008 at 1:53 AM

Just hope we can find one whose top priority is kissing reporter’s ass and jumping through hoops.

n2sooners on January 9, 2008 at 1:53 AM

Maybe Michelle should propose a new program to FoxNews executives called, Republican Idol, where we might be able to select a conservative candidate that even AllahPundit would be happy with.

Nah, that would never work, Fox News would weed out any real conservative contestants and stack the panel of judges with RINO’s.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2008 at 2:07 AM

Oh fred….

fred fred fred fred fred… *shakes head disapprovingly*

Drunk Report on January 9, 2008 at 2:10 AM

The saddest part about the Fred run is that if he didn’t get in Newt probably would have and done a better job.

bobby04040 on January 9, 2008 at 2:11 AM

Last Place in a state where McCain takes first is something that a true conservative like Fred should be proud of. Mccain was a RINO before it was cool to be a RINO.

Jungliszt on January 9, 2008 at 2:21 AM

The blogosphere speaks!:

Duncan Hunter: Don’t blame yourself. Blame corporate media executives in glass offices overlooking Central Park who have not worn the uniform and whose sons aren’t currently serving in the military.

billy on January 9, 2008 at 2:21 AM

Ha ha ha ha ha, you really didn’t think that one through very well did you
doriangrey on January 9, 2008 at 1:45 AM
My bad.
I didn’t factor in the “actor effect.”
Fred! wins in a landslide.

billy on January 9, 2008 at 2:25 AM

bobby04040 on January 9, 2008 at 2:11 AM

Goreacle’s disciple Newt?

joewm315 on January 9, 2008 at 2:25 AM

Liberal state, liberal picks. It’s no surprise that the only real conservative didn’t place well. John “amnesty” McCain is a RINO and everyone knows it.

HotAirExpert on January 9, 2008 at 2:26 AM

I wanted Newt but he didn’t run.

Then Fred came along and I said “Close enough.”

Then Fred wouldn’t run.

Back-up pick was Rudy No Guns…and if the current polls out of Florida are any indication, I don’t think “Big State Bingo” is going to pan out for him.

Huck’s a Democrat seeking the Republican nom.

The only way Juan gets my vote is if he somehow gets the nom, via default voting rule: “Anyone but the Democrat”.

Dr. Ron takes money from Nazis and doesn’t understand how that’s a bad thing.

Romney…mah Gawd, I can’t believe it’s come to this.

Is it too late to start a “Draft Newt” movement?

“Draft Rush”?

Limbaugh/Miller ’08!?!

I suddenly feel like Little Richard in that GEICO comercial:

“HELP ME!!! SOMEBODY HELP ME!!!”

SuperCool on January 9, 2008 at 2:33 AM

Last Place in a state where McCain takes first is something that a true conservative like Fred should be proud of. Mccain was a RINO before it was cool to be a RINO.

Jungliszt on January 9, 2008 at 2:21 AM

There’s no doubt about that. Fred would have had a very difficult time in the state even if he had had Romney’s wealth and months of glad-handing behind him. South Carolina is far more important and even Fred is calling it his firewall. I hope he’s able to get the job done there.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2008 at 2:37 AM

I don’t think anyone expected either of these guys to have a strong showing. Kucinich for the obvious reason that he’s… a wacko, sincere though he may be. Thompson isn’t a moderate conservative though and that’s what NH Republicans have been known to be and they showed it once again in their strong support of McCain. Will Thompson win the nomination? Probably not. Is he the only true conservative running on the Republican ticket? Yes.

And that’s a fact.

If it’s not Thompson, I go for Giuliani or Romney. I can vote for them, particularly the former. If Huck wins, I’m staying home.

Jockolantern on January 9, 2008 at 2:43 AM

If it’s any consolation, those of us who considered Rudy as a possible candidate also got hit tonight with McCain clearly becoming the security candidate – no need for Rudy now.

Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 1:11 AM

Unfortunately for me, Rudy is my second choice after Fred, and I fully expect to have to fall back on him sooner rather than later. Now it’s looking like I might not have any good choices, since I don’t have a third choice and don’t really want one. Sigh.

aero on January 9, 2008 at 3:01 AM

You realize you could just as easily put up a side-by-side graphic comparing Ron Paul’s votes and Rudy Guiliani’s. Aside from the fact that Guliani did get marginally more votes than Paul, the comparison is pretty much the same.

There would be one difference though. The comparison between Guliani and Paul actually says at least something about the New Hampshire primary.

So why Fred vs. Kucinich instead of Guliani vs. Paul? Because AP likes to poke the Fredheads now and then.

Predictably, some have tried to turn AP’s little poke at the Fredheads into an actual statement that Fred has no chance.

Enjoy the joke or not, but all it says is that Fred did very badly in New Hampshire. Which was exactly what he suspected would happen, and why he never campaigned there. On the other hand, McCain won New Hampshire, and he’s not about to win the nomination.

Why? McCain has no respect for the Reagan coalition of fiscal conservatives, religious conservatives, and national security conservatives. McCain’s great on national security, when he’s not pre-emptively surrendering on border control, effective interrogation of terrorists, nomination/confirmation of conservative judges, and caving in to liberal criticism of so-called “warrantless domestic surveillance.”

Ok, so maybe McCain’s not so great on national security. But McCain’s almost good on fiscal conservatism, at least as far as holding down spending. Of course, he didn’t defend the tax cuts that pulled us out of the Clinton recession at the end of the Clinton administration. So he only gets partial credit for fiscal conservatism

But McCain’s big mistake is how he treats the religious conservatives. He had a great shot at the nomination in 2000 until he foolishly, for whatever reason, publicly denigrated the religious conservatives who were considering voting for him. Sure, it earned him major points with the press, but it cost him the nomination.

Winning elections is all about giving people a reason to vote for you. McCain fails badly at that. There’s so much so good about him. But as a candidate, New Hampshire notwithstanding, he’s horrible in comparison to Thompson, Giuliani, Romney, and maybe even Huckabee. In fact, evangelicals/fundamentalist Christians are more likely to vote for vaguely plastic Romney — Mormon faith notwithstanding — or social liberal Giuliani than they are for McCain.

Thompson doing badly in New Hampshire makes little difference. He deliberatley accepted miserable numbers in Hew Hampshire so he could concentrate on hist strategy of trying to win South Carolina. Thompson is not going to quit before South Carolina, any more than Rudy is going to quit before Super Tuesday. Calls for Thompson to give up or his supporters to jump ship before South Carolina are just foolish. It ain’t gonna happen.

theregoestheneighborhood on January 9, 2008 at 3:02 AM

Frankly, I think AP saw Huckabee as his saviour and wanted Fred to save him from Huckabee.

Pundit egos loom large and are so much more important than who becomes President.

Connie on January 9, 2008 at 3:03 AM

Who knew?

Tremble before the might of a Viggo Mortensen endorsement…

sulla on January 9, 2008 at 3:04 AM

As misguided as he may be on some issues, Ron Paul worked long and hard for his votes in New Hampshire. Thompson did not.

Tim Pancoast on January 9, 2008 at 12:45 AM

Yeah, RuPaul worked long and hard and got almost 3,400 votes! Sounds like well spent time and money /s

Fred! knew he had nothing to gain in NH and he doesn’t have money to burn. Rather than throw good money after bad, he exhibited sound fiscal judgement and headed for SC. Isn’t sound fiscal judgement conservatives want to see in a President? I thought so.

Mallard T. Drake on January 9, 2008 at 3:14 AM

Maybe he should have done the debate and not Leno.

Christoph on January 9, 2008 at 1:13 AM

I keep seeing people say this, but I don’t really think that was much of a strategic error. If he’d skipped Leno and done the debate, I doubt it would have made much difference. I still doubt he would have done well in NH. And Leno had a lot more viewers watching than have watched any of the debates.

As much as it may hurt skipping a state, it looks a lot better to be able to dismiss low numbers by saying, “Well, it wasn’t our strategy to campaign there,” than to spend sharply limited time and money campaigning heavily on non-fertile ground instead of where you stand your best chances.

I think the real lesson of the Fred! campaign is that it takes a LOT of time and effort to run a presidential campaign. Even Reagan failed to capture the 1976 nomination before finally getting the 1980 nomination. Granted, he was running against a sitting president the first time, but he was also a well-known and popular political figure in his own right.

If Fred had started this whole process six months earlier, he might be doing a lot better,

theregoestheneighborhood on January 9, 2008 at 3:19 AM

South Carolina is far more important and even Fred is calling it his firewall. I hope he’s able to get the job done there.

Agreed. If Fox News starts showing Geraldo-at-Large reruns during prime time, we can probably assume he did well.

Jungliszt on January 9, 2008 at 3:24 AM

Isn’t sound fiscal judgement conservatives want to see in a President?

Mallard T. Drake on January 9, 2008 at 3:14 AM

Does it come with a blimp?

Speaking of judgment, (and I realize I’m not the first to notice this), Fred predicted a Hillary win yesterday while Romney went with Obama. Not a big deal—could be chance, but there it is.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2008 at 3:24 AM

what does Rudy offer? Nothing positive that I can see. I think he’s done.

Mark Jaquith on January 9, 2008 at 1:26 AM

How about he actually cut more taxes than all the candidates combined, while redicing the size of city government!

He kicked Yasser Arafat out of the Lincoln Center and Castro out of another event.

Rudy Returned 10-million dollars to a Saudi Prince that suggested that we deserved 9-11..

Rudy has been fighting terrorists since he was in the Reagan Administration, he also was taking on the Mob and organized crime rings.

He cut the murder rate in NY City dramatically, by implementing a “broken windows” theory..
Also, he cleaned up NY by cleaning up pornography and getting the hookers off the streets, getting people off of welfare and getting them jobs.. reduced abortion more than the national level, and increased adoptions by 133%…

he took on a Museum (and was sued by the ACLU) because the museum had an art exhibit that covered the Virgin Mary in dung, Rudy was trying to refuse funds to the museum, since he believes that the publics money should not be used to defile Religion.

School Choice, Rudy faught for school choice in NY as well.

Secure the Borders, Border-Stat(Rudy loves a challenge! people told him that he could not stop crime in NY, he proved them Wrong.. He wants a chance to prove them wrong, one more time)

yea, nothing positive for 8 years.

Chakra Hammer on January 9, 2008 at 3:31 AM

Former Solicitor General Ted Olson: Justices Like Alito, Roberts & Scalia

Chakra Hammer on January 9, 2008 at 3:38 AM

Even Reagan blew it on selecting Justices. How can I possibly expect a man in a dress to do better?

Jungliszt on January 9, 2008 at 3:43 AM

That’s funny….

But why do I want to cry?

darkpixel on January 9, 2008 at 3:49 AM

Uh. Go Fred?

sonnyspats1 on January 9, 2008 at 3:52 AM

Huck’s rise in the polls should be all the proof required that Rudy was never a viable Republican candidate. A large percentage of Huckabee’s supporters would NEVER vote for Rudy, yet they are essential to the Reagan coalition. Unfortunately Huck isn’t viable either for similar reasons.

Perhaps if Rudy hadn’t entered the race and if his supporters hadn’t been so gung-ho about celebrating the end of the religious right, the unity of the Republican Party might still be intact now. Instead of Republicans allying themselves with the mainstream media and attacking the only conservative candidate in the race, we would all be backing him up and making him strong in the face of adversity.

Huckabee/McCain ’08, that’s the ticket the Republican Party deserves.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2008 at 3:56 AM

Brokered convention drafts Newt. That’s what I’m praying for out of this whole mess. Plus, I’ve never seen a brokered convention. Could be real fun. I’m beginning to think that some fun may be the only damned thing I get out of this screwy election.

trigon on January 9, 2008 at 3:56 AM

On a personal note, I got my absentee ballot for the California Primary today. Tomorrow, I’m voting for Fred and sending it in. Yeah, we sure do like our actors out here. Exits: stage right…

trigon on January 9, 2008 at 4:00 AM

Huckabee/McCain ’08, that’s the ticket the Republican Party deserves.

FloatingRock on January 9, 2008 at 3:56 AM

I wonder just how “painful” and “brutal” the Great Silly Hat Scandal will seem when Huckabee is sworn in.

Jungliszt on January 9, 2008 at 4:26 AM

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