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posted at 12:25 am on January 9, 2008 by Allahpundit
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I’ve read a lot of people arguing that Huckabee would be the Republican Jimmy Carter, and I’ve agreed with them, but I don’t think it’s quite right.
Bush is the Republican Jimmy Carter.
FloatingRock on January 9, 2008 at 4:27 AM
To my Fred buds, I have to say I feel for you, but at the same time, it’s impressive that you can stick with your guy through thick and thin.
But he isn’t done yet and he can still do well in SC.
Peace and cheers.
csdeven on January 9, 2008 at 5:17 AM
A brokered convention drafts Newt, who then starts to put together a campaign organization and raise money on September 4, three months before the election?
How’s the delayed entry plan working out for Fred?
LagunaDave on January 9, 2008 at 5:37 AM
We’ll see. He said he’d tank in NH. Not a big deal.
NickTx on January 9, 2008 at 5:40 AM
And you, sir, are an ignoramus.
LagunaDave on January 9, 2008 at 5:48 AM
I’m not a fredhead and that is an amazing statement. That in a primary where more independant voters voted then republicans they are called kingmakers! The majority of those independants will probably vote democrat in the general election but you are letting them be the ones who choose the republican nominee? The speculation is, and it’s credible, that there are so many independants that with all of the hoopla about obama running away with it, a large number voted in the the republican side to make it interesting giving both hilary (a surprise) and mcain (not as large as expected) victories.
peacenprosperity on January 9, 2008 at 6:09 AM
Simply put it shows the conservatives have a pretty good depth of field. My greatest hope is that whoever becomes President can find a way to control the alphabet agencies.
tetoncinco on January 9, 2008 at 6:23 AM
We may be seeing the makings of a brokered convention. But, I think this will be McCain’s high point. I don’t think he’ll come to winning a primary close again.
I am dyed in the wool Fredhead, but if he doesn’t win SC, he’s done, I fear.
If Fred is out by SC, then the fight is between Huckabee (worse) and Romney (worser still).
Folks we are about to be given the worst possible choices since Bob Dole. And if they do end up picking Obama, we can’t win no matter who they put up against him. We have a chance to beat Hillary, but we CANNOT beat Obama.
Warner Todd Huston on January 9, 2008 at 6:41 AM
Since it seems the Fredheads will soon be focused on exacting vengeance on the rest of the candidates (which is cool, I say go for it), they will be making comparisons that we will be able to discuss without the debate ending up talking about Fred as a candidate.
So, in that spirit, I’d like you to explain how Mitt is a worser candidate than Huckabee is.
csdeven on January 9, 2008 at 6:50 AM
Romney is worth a vote in the nationals; he may not be a dyed-in-the-wool conservative, but he’s got enough positive credentials and likability to be a quality candidate.
Huckabee… is a true conservative’s nightmare and shouldn’t even be in consideration right now.
Jockolantern on January 9, 2008 at 7:10 AM
This is not Allah’s fault. It is the fault of our crappy candidate. ;)
Jay on January 9, 2008 at 7:13 AM
Warner Todd Huston on January 9, 2008 at 6:41 AM
Obama will be finished by Florida, and we have no candidate that can beat Shillery, especially if she picks Obama as a running mate. An absolutely unbeatable team.
I am nearing retirement and will concentrate on rearranging my portfolio to avoid the massive Shillery tax hikes coming our way.
I didn’t work my ever loven a$$ off for nearly 45 years just to taxed out of my life earnings thanks to Shillery care.
I strongly urge each and everyone one of you to position your assets from the coming liberal tax on slot.
If you have any doubts about where this country is heading, look to my liberally devastated state of Michigan. Granholm and her fellow liberals have been a disastrous mistake for Michigan, the only bankrupt state in the union.
leanright on January 9, 2008 at 7:14 AM
If Hillary Clinton gets the nomination, I can envision one scenario where she will definitely become president of the United States. And that is if Mike Huckabee is her GOP opponent.
Pray for the Fredalanche©
TheSitRep on January 9, 2008 at 7:14 AM
Should have read:
position your assets to protect them from
leanright on January 9, 2008 at 7:22 AM
Heh. What you see here is the tip of the bell curve, at opposite ends of the scale.
TexasDan on January 9, 2008 at 7:28 AM
Nothing matters on the Republican side until Super da duper Tuesday. It is still wide open and may not be settled until mini super Tuesday the month after. After Iowa and NH it is a whole new ballgame. Don’t forget, political pundits have gotten every long term (greater than a week) prediction wrong.
sweeper on January 9, 2008 at 7:52 AM
Don’t raise the white flag yet.. There’s a possibility that Republicans can lose the election, but we’ve got a long way to go.
whiskeytango on January 9, 2008 at 8:00 AM
Folks, two things:
1) Fred didn’t campaign in NH (thus a low showing was expected);
2) He didn’t campaign in NH because the whole state of NH has less population than the metro area of Austin, TX.
Oh gee, Fed didn’t capture NH. So what.
fabrexe on January 9, 2008 at 8:13 AM
Carter: Uber-leftist on foreign policy, Uber-leftist on fiscal policy, uber-Leftist on
How does that describe Bush? You can fault Bush for his Immigration policy, but his foreign policy and fiscal policy has been consistently conservative.
Just imagine how a Jimmy Carter would have responded to 9/11.
*Shudder*
Buy Danish on January 9, 2008 at 8:36 AM
Romney has a conservative record as governor. Huck practically doesn’t. How is Huck better than Romney?
CABE on January 9, 2008 at 8:37 AM
woops, Carter also Uber-Leftist on [social policy].
Buy Danish on January 9, 2008 at 8:37 AM
Time for a national sanity check. Now that we’re out of the hopeless states of IA and NH, let’s really see who’s running well. These are liberal states chiming in on the Republican race, perhaps even trying to spoil it or depress the base by going all out RINO. We need to take the pulse of a few other places before any kind of clear image emerges.
pistolero on January 9, 2008 at 8:37 AM
whiskeytango on January 9, 2008 at 8:00 AM
Things sure are heading in that direction sad to say.
I’m hedging by bets, better safe than sorry. Those demo bastards are not going to
tax the hell out ofsteal from me.leanright on January 9, 2008 at 8:40 AM
Arguably, since the size of the federal government has grown substantially under GWB, including a department creation and budget increases, you could argue this point
HYTEAndy on January 9, 2008 at 8:43 AM
maybe the past 18 months or so,but before that Boosh spent like a drunken sailor.
Wade on January 9, 2008 at 8:53 AM
pistolero @ 8:37–NH is RINO.
fabrexe @ 8:13–NH population doesn’t surpass Metro-Austin.
Fred peacefully let NH go.
Presidential Fred is on the strongest platform in SC.
Go Fred!
maverick muse on January 9, 2008 at 8:53 AM
I’m sorry you’re offended by the truth; running for President IS a pain in the butt. No, Fred doesn’t enjoy being a candidate at the national level. But it’s time we stop considering how good a politician someone is and start considering how good a leader they are.
Mitt is unquestionably the best politician in the race. However, could someone point to a single position they can state is NOT subject to change with him? I haven’t found one. And Huckabee is just the country preacher version of that. At least with McCain and Thompson- for better or worse- they’ll stick to what they believe. And Fred is closer to the beliefs of most of the GOP.
We all say we’re disgusted by the way politics are; then when someone comes along and doesn’t play by those rules of honoring the would-be kingmakers in the media, you’re offended? Are you part of the problem or the solution here?
Watch the next debate; when Fred speaks, the others listen; then almost always agree with him. Who leads and who follows is important here.
Possibly you’d also care to take up just how dead Rudy is, polling fourth in Florida; just to give a little variety to the topics in here that AP seems to be driving.
michaelo on January 9, 2008 at 8:56 AM
Wow…so Fred didn’t campaign in NH, didn’t spend any money there, didn’t try and get any votes…and he didn’t get that money?
EEEEERIE! And from the state only a spitting distance from the folks who want to secede and arrest Bush and Cheney on sight!
I repeat: South Carolina, and a lot of people will be putting their feet in their mouths, and no, they will not be Fred supporters.
MadisonConservative on January 9, 2008 at 8:57 AM
Maybe it is because we don’t jump ship every time a wave hit the bow. Like Fred, we stick to our position till the end. We don’t stick our finger to the wind to find out which way it is blowing hence you don’t see us wondering which person we will run too if our man fails. If he does, and he may very well, I dunno, we will make the choice then.
Until then, stay on course, stay on target, and don’t be like the rest who have to shove their finger in the air because some pollster farted and they want to see if it is blowing their way.
RobertInAustin on January 9, 2008 at 8:57 AM
bah…didn’t get that MANY…
MadisonConservative on January 9, 2008 at 8:57 AM
Agreed. If Fred dropped out, I’d cast a vote for Romney versus Huck.
MadisonConservative on January 9, 2008 at 8:59 AM
Just look at the bozos we have running for the republican nomination.
McCain and Romney are the only two that look even remotely capable of winning a few states if they run against Clinton.
If Shillery should pick Obama for her running mate, it’s all over. Prepare yourself, Shillery and the tax O
brama is on the express train to your wallet.leanright on January 9, 2008 at 9:02 AM
It’s the fault of a crappy system that values process over policy; style over substance. I was naive to think my fellow conservatives were immune to such worldly temptations.
edgehead on January 9, 2008 at 9:04 AM
WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH CSDEVEN?
Tim Zank on January 9, 2008 at 9:04 AM
michaelo on January 9, 2008 at 8:56 AM
Fred Thompson is vigorously coming to SC. Enjoy the ride. McCain came from 13% Iowa to victory in NH. The primary season is volatile. Don’t sound like the nagging kid, “are we there yet?” all through the journey.
maverick muse on January 9, 2008 at 9:09 AM
Yup. (Allah took quite an ego slam from that trekkie photo last week.)
Ex-tex on January 9, 2008 at 9:10 AM
Even you cannot resist the pull of the Fred!
RobertInAustin on January 9, 2008 at 9:15 AM
In their differences vs. similarities, Huck and Mitt are polarized brothers following the path of least resistance.
GO FRED!
maverick muse on January 9, 2008 at 9:20 AM
I kept feeling bad for Bill Richardson, because on the Fox graphic they would show the three Dem front runners (Shill, Barak, Silky) and then drop in the Bill Richardson and Dennis Kucinich (trailing) graphic. That would be enough bad karma for me to drop out immediately.
ttime500 on January 9, 2008 at 9:47 AM
Being a once upon a time drunken sailor, I resent that remark…I only spent my own money!
oldsalt on January 9, 2008 at 10:05 AM
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hah! Brutal!
BJ* on January 9, 2008 at 10:18 AM
…and McCain won New Hampshire against Bush too. NH has never been a bellwether for who will get the Republican nomination, South Carolina has always been a better gauge with which to judge the Republican choice. If Fred does go “all-in” in SC and manages to win the state, I think you’ll see money and support come swing his way. Otherwise it’s a Romney – Huck choice. McCain’s peaked and Rudy has, for some reason, cratered beyond repair.
If the Republicans are really serious about beating Hillary (and she will get the nomination now…) they need to either put Mitt or Thompson up against her. They are the only two that can beat her. Rudy could probably beat her head-to-head, but her attack dogs could probably find enough meat to keep him out of the White House.
lodestonejames on January 9, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Where is csdeven and what have you done with him/her?
samuelrylander on January 9, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Crap, someone beat me to it. Sorry for the repeat.
samuelrylander on January 9, 2008 at 10:30 AM
He can do that? I thought he was married to his staff.
AverageJoe on January 9, 2008 at 10:31 AM
lodestonejames on January 9, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Mitt and Fred are fighting over the same voters and with Huck’s help, will most likely wash each other out of a first place showing.
It could be any one’s game, but I’m thinking if Fred and Huck do well enough, McCain might just slip in there for a win.
Huck just needs to go away, he is way too divisive a candidate to be more than a disruptor. And McCain cannot beat Shillery.
leanright on January 9, 2008 at 10:33 AM
If Fred loses in SC I will put an upside down RNC elephant sticker with an X over its eye next to the Fred sticker on my truck. It’s over.
P.S. Attention lead foot drivers. That Fred sticker got me out of a speeding ticket recently. The cop wanted to talk politics for ten minutes, but I’m all like, ‘hey dude, I’m in a hurry. Why do you think I was speeding in the first place?’
pistolero on January 9, 2008 at 10:38 AM
I don’t think Fred even needs a win in SC; the delegates are splitting up all over the place, so a strong second place will keep him in for awhile for people look to him as a potential anti-huck whose views are consistent (unlike Mitt). About 4% of the delegates is all that’s been allotted by now; calling the game 3 minutes into the first quarter is not wise.
But he MUST be a strong second and get the campaign in full gear.
I’m investing in popcorn futures, hoping for the brokered convention to make me rich.
michaelo on January 9, 2008 at 11:04 AM
Fred has earned my loyal support. Until he tells me he’s dropping out, he’s my candidate.
Among us, there are supporters for all the candidates. Please wipe the rim of the bitter cup before passing it along for the next guy to sip from.
RushBaby on January 9, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Y’all recognize a pimp when you see one.
maverick muse on January 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM
No way that McCain wins in SC, even with a split vote. The voters here (yep, that’s my location) still haven’t forgiven him for openly courting Democrats to vote in the Republican primary against Bush.
lodestonejames on January 9, 2008 at 11:39 AM
I seriously doubt it, even though it’d be the best chance for Paulites and FredHeads. I would be really surprised if we don’t know who both the nominees are by midnight on Super Tuesday. But hey, it’d sure be interesting if it happened.
Mark Jaquith on January 9, 2008 at 11:39 AM
No. Bush’s second term, he was the Republican Jimmy Carter.
Huck’s first term, he would also be the Republican Jimmy Carter.
That’s worse.
MadisonConservative on January 9, 2008 at 11:48 AM
lodestonejames on January 9, 2008 at 11:39 AM
Here’s to ya bud, Lord I hope your right.
leanright on January 9, 2008 at 11:52 AM
New Hampshire was stripped of 1/2 of their delegates. Which means 12. I’m not sure why this state is such a big deal. It’s the delegate totals right?
This post reminds me of how the MSM reports their version of news. They twist the facts and focus on non-issues to make it an issue and fabricate outrage. Yet they leave out the information that allows us to say, “But wait, then what you’re saying doesn’t matter!” It’s as if Fred saying he is not campaigning, not expected to win in New Hampshire and just concentrating on South Carolina for now did not happen.
I’m not a Fredhead, but I don’t understand all the misinformation that gets spewed here for the sake of snark.
Why can’t any of you campaign for your own guy, without the dishonest rhetoric? Think about it before you type a retort to anything other than the issues and platforms. It sounds more us against us than us against them.
geckomon on January 9, 2008 at 12:08 PM
I’ve made that point here too, and gotten singled out for ridicule. Lesson: Come equipped to speak only for yourself. :)
RushBaby on January 9, 2008 at 12:17 PM
RushBaby on January 9, 2008 at 12:17 PM
I’m with you, then! It just so discouraging that this is how we conduct ourselves.
geckomon on January 9, 2008 at 12:20 PM
Fred! may have lost to Kucinich, but he KILLED Gravel.
/silver lining.
omnipotent on January 9, 2008 at 12:42 PM
The brilliance of your argument overwhelms me, genius.
FloatingRock on January 9, 2008 at 12:47 PM
During the general election, I reckon most of our infighting will be forgotten, and we’ll separate into two camps: those supporting the Republican, and those who reason that voting for the Democrats is somehow a good thing.
RushBaby on January 9, 2008 at 12:48 PM
It doesn’t, but Bush is the Republican Jimmy Carter because he’s done such great damage to the conservative movement that the Republican Party is in disarray and dispirited. Reagan destroyed the Soviet Union and Bush destroyed the Reagan coalition.
FloatingRock on January 9, 2008 at 1:00 PM
Newt already has a national organization. If he can figure out the legalities of using it. Also, don’t overlook the buzz caused by the media scrutiny of a brokered convention and the additional sensation caused by a ‘compromise conservative savior’. The media will eat that stuff up and the dems will be off the front pages. Hillary might have to cry again.
trigon on January 9, 2008 at 2:55 PM
I just hope that which ever republican wins the whitehouse will not make GWB’s mistake of keeping all of the democratic leftists in positions of power in the government. He will need to fire every single person that is under his control and start fresh with new people who will support his views of how to run this country. Even Condie has gone over to the establishment mentality in the State Department. Fire them all and start over.
TimothyJ on January 9, 2008 at 3:03 PM
I saw the future: During the general election,
I reckonmost of our infighting will beforgotten, and we’llseparated into two camps: those who supporteding the RepublicanConservatives, and those who reason that voting forthe DemocratsRINOsiswere somehow a good thing.geckomon on January 9, 2008 at 3:55 PM
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