McCain 18, Huck 15, Mitt 14, Rudy 12 — in California
posted at 8:45 pm on January 9, 2008 by Allahpundit
I’m thinking maybe we suspend our political coverage for a few weeks. Cold turkey, no looking back. I just can’t handle the depression anymore.
Is Huck going to take LA?
The private poll, which we just obtained from a leading Democratic state strategist, goes like this:
On the Republican side, Arizona Sen. John McCain leads the California pack with 18 percentage points; former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee now in second place with 15, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has sunk to third place with 14. Here’s the shocker: former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani — once the frontrunner here — shows up with 12 percentage points, with Fred Thompson, the former Tennesee Senator, back in single digits with 9 points, and Texas Rep. Ron Paul in 5 percent. Undecided GOP voters are a huge number — 24 percent.
“I’ve never seen anything like this” so close to a major election, said the strategist. “This is a fight to the finish…it tells me that not only is the Republican field extremely unsettled, but many Republicans find this entire crop of candidates unsettling.”
The good news: Nonpartisan polls show Rudy with an eight-point lead. The bad news: That data is three weeks old, before Iowa and New Hampshire and Giuliani’s national cratering. And Huck was already running second at the time. This result isn’t far-fetched, in other words.
Which brings us to our latest HA poll. I’d hoped it wouldn’t come to this, my friends, but I fear we must prepare ourselves for the worst. All the policy papers — and money — in the world have been ineffective thus far against this date with destiny. I ask nothing more than that you choose as you would on Super Tuesday, knowing that Hillary or the Messiah awaits. Below the poll you’ll find a pearl of wisdom from Charles Krauthammer for inspiration.
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Well if he wasn’t already becoming either McVain’s or Huckster’s VP would sure do it.
MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 10:06 PM
popularpolitics
I can believe Huckabee denied a lot of clemencies. Finding somebody to persuade the Guv you’ve had a come-to-Jesus moment can’t be easy from a maximum security cell.
Humility preferred. Now that’s deep, man. He must have thought about foreign policy, like, a lot! I heard him summarize the Democrats’ position on the war the other day — then found out he was sharing his own thoughts.
He gave everybody an itty bitty cut, and then only raised taxes when he needed to, and besides, it wasn’t his fault. The only people who think otherwise hate the little children crying out for education.
If he didn’t insist on hawking his Christian credentials he’d be the quintessential Democrat. I won’t stay home if he’s the nominee. I’ll vote against him.
JM Hanes on January 9, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Has he ever actually answered a question? With something other than a dumb joke or the same scripted talking-points?
Ah, how I wish we had British interviewers in America! They would tear everyone running to shreds, but Hucklebee would be the softest, easiest to tear of all.
Tzetzes on January 9, 2008 at 10:08 PM
HUCKABEE/MCCAIN ’08!
WOOT!
FloatingRock on January 9, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Me too. No way would I EVER vote for Huckabee.
melda on January 9, 2008 at 10:08 PM
We’re voting for President here… McCain joyfully violated the Constitution and has no regret for doing so. Now I’m sure what you said was a mistake…so I forgive you =)
CABE on January 9, 2008 at 10:09 PM
You didn’t build a Year 2000 bunker, did you? ;)
Your Jewish Master on January 9, 2008 at 9:55 PM
No, I did not. But I did have to fend off my Catholic roommate during my freshman year and explain to him that I didn’t kill Jesus.
Lance Murdock on January 9, 2008 at 10:10 PM
Just like I wouldnt “settle” for a wife that would stop me from going drinking, or playing golf, I wont settle for a anyone thats conservative on one or two issues and liberal on the rest.
Let the democrats take the blame for the same crap these RINOs would pass in the essence of “bipartisanship”.
broker1 on January 9, 2008 at 10:11 PM
The problem with a choice of McCain or staying home, or even voting for Hillary for that matter, is that there’s no reason to believe McCain wouldn’t pick a “compromise” candidate for the Supreme Court.
JM Hanes on January 9, 2008 at 10:12 PM
You WILL need yours guns when Huck gets the BIG pardon pen…
Vigilante on January 9, 2008 at 10:12 PM
So, the 5% who are still for Ron Paul are OK with the whole white supremacist thing?
funky chicken on January 9, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Methinks he doth exaggerate too much. Don’t tell anyone but Giuliani, McCain, Romney (not in that order) and my prime dude, Fred, are are acceptable to me. It’s just a matter of who is more acceptable and in what order and the rest get the political criticism treatment until my list gets pared from the top.
So the crop is not unsettling any more than it was in 2000. I hadn’t realized I might need to sleep with one eye open as much as I have with Bush but I learned with Reagan that I had to sleep with one eye open, if only on a few things.
Like I said. Don’t tell anyone.
P.S. Huck’s a problem for me though. A big one.
Dusty on January 9, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Hey AllahPundit, I was just listening to a recording of Mark Levin’s show today, who said, “The morons on the Internet, some of whom are on conservative blog sites and some of whom are not, will continue to speculate to their little hearts desire with mindless gibberish!”
FloatingRock on January 9, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Aaaaaaarrrrrggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! Tough decision – shoot myself with a 9mm or a .45 …
deepdiver on January 9, 2008 at 10:17 PM
I think they got bigger problems over there. Yes, BIGGER.
Vigilante on January 9, 2008 at 10:23 PM
The Huckster will never get this vote. Never!
Chuck145 on January 9, 2008 at 10:23 PM
I don’t have to choose between those losers. I vote absentee in California and I mailed in my ballot today. RUDY
tommylotto on January 9, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Chuck Norris? is that you?
CABE on January 9, 2008 at 10:26 PM
STAY HOME!
I never thought I’d say this but I will stay home in November rather than vote for Jimma Huckabee or the anti-Republican.
edgehead on January 9, 2008 at 10:26 PM
This summer I would see Chuck Norris at our local ice skating rink with his family. If I see him again I’m going to tell him what I think of him – from the other side of the room – near the exit.
edgehead on January 9, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Personally, with the choice between McCain and Huckabee, I’m writing in bacon.
http://koolaidreport.blogspot.com/2008/01/couple-of-notes-about-that-last-post.html (read number two)
Jeff_McAwesome on January 9, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Chuck Norris (President)/ Huck (VP)
Go Huck.
The others cant beat Hillary.
faraway on January 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM
I’d say, “what’s the point? they are all (dems included) pretty rotten choices,” but I suppose I’d hold my nose and pull the lever for McCain. There. I said it. I need a shower now.
Tremor on January 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Here’s a new poll.
Pay attention and vote truthfully for the candidate that you like the least.
Mcguyver on January 9, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Spare the rod; spoil the child.
I’d stay home.
FloatingRock on January 9, 2008 at 10:44 PM
I cannot believe what I just did…
Something I SWORE NEVER TO DO…
i voted for McShamnesty…
Please forgive me!
Sometimes you just have to hold your nose and do it (ARRRRRRGH)!
FloridaBill on January 9, 2008 at 10:45 PM
You have GOT to be kidding! Please tell me you’re kidding?
Hillary will win 30+ states if Huck is the nominee.Guaranteed.
edgehead on January 9, 2008 at 10:47 PM
The key to beating Chuck Norris in an election is to go straight for the nuts. Chuck Norris never protects his nuts.
CABE on January 9, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Huckabee and McCain are starting to make Giuliani look more attractive to me.
NOW THAT is saying a great deal.
EJDolbow on January 9, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Seriously edgehead. Rudy would’ve trounced Hillary in New York if he didn’t have to bow out. Instead we got stuck with Rick Lazio.
I seriously don’t understand who’s voting for Huck.
jimmy the notable on January 9, 2008 at 10:52 PM
I have been thinking the very same thing.
MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 10:57 PM
It’s the dress and the makeup that does it.
FloatingRock on January 9, 2008 at 11:00 PM
Same here. He’s moved up to #3 for me.
Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Exactly how I’ve been feeling lately.
As far as this now very realistic scenario, I can vote for McCain but will never, ever vote for Huckabee. It wouldn’t matter though, really, because either candidate would have next to no chance in the general and the conservative coalition will be fractured beyond temporary repair.
Patriot33 on January 9, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Well… you never know who the GOP VP candidate might be. Plus, never forget the increased turnout if Hillary is the Dem candidate.
faraway on January 9, 2008 at 11:12 PM
I hate to break it to ya, but that has already happened. Look at the support for each Repub candidate right now. It’s amazingly divided – mostly because of just what you speak of: fracturing and division.
Whatever happens, and whoever is elected, the conservative coalition will be sharply divided with each side arguing what “conservatism” really means.
popularpolitics on January 9, 2008 at 11:14 PM
I would vote against the dems, but I feel sick and dirty. I hope it does’nt come to that!
xplodeit on January 9, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Are you people forgetting about Campaign Finance? What part of “Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech” don’t you understand? Voting for McCain is like tearing up the Constitution.
I vote stay home.
CABE on January 9, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Here is some hope for all you Rudy fans. First, I don’t believe that poll. Second it will change again once Rudy wins FL. Third, CA awards delegate by congressional district. That means Duncan Hunter’s heavily republican district is worth the same as Pelosi’s district. That means you can win a plurality of the CA delegates with a minority of the votes — if your votes on concentrated in the more urban more democratic areas. This should favor Rudy heavily.
tommylotto on January 9, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Uhh, Lance, you really need to read the Fair Tax book.
Food is exempt.
Dave R. on January 9, 2008 at 11:19 PM
I have been told I have a great sense of humor, but i don’t see where the punchline in this is.
paulsur on January 9, 2008 at 11:21 PM
I can see McCain taking California over Rudy if they think he is viable and not likely to drop dead any time soon. We know McCain out west. We don’t really know Rudy.
bnelson44 on January 9, 2008 at 11:22 PM
The liberal MSM, that’s who. Even Hussein Obama would trounce the Huckster in a national election. The dimlib media knows this.
Dave R. on January 9, 2008 at 11:22 PM
STAY HOME!
I never thought I’d say this but I will stay home in November rather than vote for Jimma Huckabee or the anti-Republican.
edgehead on January 9, 2008 at 10:26 PM
No votes for OPEN BORDERS ZEALOTS!! We’ll stay home…doesn’t matter who they’re running against!!
DfDeportation on January 9, 2008 at 11:24 PM
It’s the “WOOT!” part.
FloatingRock on January 9, 2008 at 11:28 PM
By staying home, you are saving the republican party from ruin. Sure it means having to tolerate 4 years under a democrap regime, but it also sends a very powerful message to the RNC, back viable candidates, who have a cohesive record, and we will support them. Give us frauds and losers like McAmnesty and Huckaliar and we will send you down in defeat everytime.
I think it is time I send another voided $500 check to the RNC.
paulsur on January 9, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Mitt/Fred ’08
or
Stay/Home ’08
CABE on January 9, 2008 at 11:32 PM
OK, here’s a similar poll:
If you were standing neck deep in a barrel of diarrhea and some one threw a bucket of vomit at your face, would you duck?
Yes
No
Stay Home.
jaime on January 9, 2008 at 11:34 PM
Mitt’s the younger and his record is somewhat problematic for conservatives. However, Mitt is an excellent politician and has done a great job talking the talk, even if in the past he hasn’t always walked the walk. I would support Mitt on the ticket, but Thompson/Romney makes far more sense.
Republicans will have eight years to get to know Mitt and at the end of that time, Mitt should have a respectable conservative track record.
To be honest, Mitt isn’t my ideal VP candidate, I would prefer JC Watts or Hunter, for example, but I’ve been hoping for around a month or so for a Fred/Mitt ticket if for no other reason than to see CSDeven’s reaction!
FloatingRock on January 9, 2008 at 11:39 PM
I’m telling ya, Romney/Steele is the ticket.
BacaDog on January 9, 2008 at 11:42 PM
Not bad. I like Steele. You ever heard of Gary Berntsen? The guy who wrote JawBreaker? He’d make an excellent running mate too.
CABE on January 9, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Between Huck and Mav, who is going to have a better cabinet?Will either be persuaded by conservative advice, or will both tend equally to want to be loved by libs? Will conservative Christian leaders be able to influence Huck? Will the MSM turn just as visciously on either one, or will Huck take direction from God and make BDS look like mild irritation? Will Mav pick Supreme Court justices all the Dems can consent to? Will Huck pick only pro-life Christian judges and have them rejected time after time?
I hope I won’t need to weigh these and other questions.
Go Fred!
NellE on January 10, 2008 at 12:00 AM
In all honesty, as a conservative libertarian (little ‘l’ and not a Ron Paul advocate) and as an avid observer of most things political, what I see the vast majority of folks responding to is populism. Populism in the Democratic party and populism in the Republican party.
And, unfortunately, this populism combined with the voting public’s desire for something different, will result–I believe–in the Democratic candidate winning in Nov. 2008. Right now, I don’t think any of the Republican candidates will win in November.
eanax on January 10, 2008 at 12:10 AM
Pass on the presidential choice then vote solid conservative, if you have em, for your rep. and senators…i can’t vote for McAmnesty or Huckapoopoo just can’t.
oldernslower on January 10, 2008 at 12:15 AM
California is not what it used to be. Not when Reagan (God bless him!) was in office.
Remember the Peace Dividend? Well it nuked the Republican Party out of existence in California, or KALIFORNIA as the Governator would say. All those jobs in engineering and assembly went away and with it the workers and votes. California is horrifically expensive and made up of David Geffen entertainment types who find Kucinich a bit too conservative, a lot of illegal aliens who (hopefully) don’t vote and a battered middle class hanging on in less expensive, HOT, and smoggy inland areas.
Promise Keepers and Harvest Crusade do a bang-up business out here, so maybe that’s Huck’s voters. It’s hard to say what the Republican Party is anymore. There’s so few left. Almost everyone is a Dem — either the Latino political machine which has most of the leadership in both houses in the State Legislature, or the typical liberal. Plenty of openly gay legislators, uber-liberal social activists, and so on. Republicans are few and far between.
What there is seems to be the Governator (RINO), fiscal-social conservatives like McClintock, and so on who are fairly marginal. I can say there is no one at all like Huck in the Republican Party in California that I can think of. Ahnuld is a go-along RINO as bad as McAmnesty.
Whoever wins, bear in mind that there are almost no Republicans left in California. Mitt won and governed in very liberal MA and that’s one reason I support him. It’s tough to be a Republican in blue states and anyone who can avoid Ahnuld total-RINO status has my respect.
whiskey_199 on January 10, 2008 at 12:29 AM
I again refer to the most excellent article by Frank Rich at the American thinker:
The One-Two Punch Aimed at COP Conservative
Quote
If you sum the votes not for Mccain and Huckabee they are enough to win. Right now it is a divided field and the two socialists have more points per person thanks to the MSM making sure they are mainstreamed. The sum of what these two socialists did not get in votes is a plurality
I am trying to say: McCain and Huck did not win, they merely divided the socialist votes while a larger field divided the conservative votes. If Huck is out of the running, his votes will not necessarily go to McCain
It is too soon to give up. Just realize the MSM is attempting to triangulate the conservatives in the GOP and cause a crack up before convention time.
The RNC is already so RINO it should start a new party but if they gave a party no one would come so they have to try and force the real conservatives to vote against their consciences in the name of not voting democrat
entagor on January 10, 2008 at 12:44 AM
You need to spend the 4th of July on Balboa Island…
tommylotto on January 10, 2008 at 12:49 AM
I voted in SitRep’s poll.
AP, issue some of these to the crowd and take a vacation.
RushBaby on January 10, 2008 at 12:50 AM
whiskey,
I hear ya and agree. I live in Chino Hills currently and believe, as McClintock said when being interviewed by John Ziegler of KFI after the Governator lost his ballot initiatives, California’s only hope with the budget will be when the state goes bankrupt. I tend to agree whole heartedly (aren’t I an optimistic guy or what?) with Sen McClintock’s assessment.
As time goes on, more wealth moves out of state and those with non-wealth continue to pour in. I just go to school here.
Weebork on January 10, 2008 at 12:58 AM
Advice for all of you out there who don’t live in California: Don’t ever move here. Visit, vacation, flyby, but don’t move. Unless they pay you six figures or more.
Weebork on January 10, 2008 at 12:59 AM
Damn, I forgot to say that I voted for Jimmy Carter redux. Jimmy Carter lead to the rise of Reagan. So too will we after the next Jimmy Carter (should such dark times come to pass).
Weebork on January 10, 2008 at 1:01 AM
Some of my family just moved back to Texas from CA. One was a big time attorney. Another worked for Disney and Pixar. Now the atty’s a stay at home Mom and the other works at a theater. Happy as clams, they are.
RushBaby on January 10, 2008 at 1:03 AM
RushBaby,
Dude, if it’s family, I can’t comment.
I say that with a smile on my face. :)
Weebork on January 10, 2008 at 1:15 AM
Fred Barnes is a tool.
- The Cat
MirCat on January 10, 2008 at 1:21 AM
I am an L.A. resident and will tell you all.. we will not let Juan Mcamnesty win here no way!
Huckabee will win big in california!
You think there are 12 million illegals in the U.S.A.?
No way. Try 30-40M.
We have 10 million illegal aliens in east LA alone
HaraldHardrada on January 10, 2008 at 1:43 AM
SECOND LOOK AT ALCOHOL !!!ELEVENTY!!
mrfixit on January 10, 2008 at 1:46 AM
Are you saying that Californians won’t vote for McCain because of his support of illegal immigration yet will vote for Huckabee in spite of his support of illegal immigration?
FloatingRock on January 10, 2008 at 2:05 AM
Unlike McVain, Huckabee is now a born-again opponent of illegal immigration.
Just check out his web site sometime. He sounds more like Tom Tancredo than Tom Tancredo sounds like Tom Tancredo.
Now can we trust him? Probably not, but we can sure trust Strawberries Plantation McVain to keep on selling America out. You can take that to El Banco.
MB4 on January 10, 2008 at 2:41 AM
And we are surprised by the California poll because?
Remember – California, the home of Gov Schwarzenegger, who calls himself a Republican but governs to the left of most Democrats (and whose chief of staff is a Democrat). The home of Nancy Pelosi? We don’t honestly believe CA’s polls will reflect the wishes of real Republicans, do we? (Not to insult the few real Republicans who actually do live there.)
McCain – the friend of Democrat Senators, who gave us Campaign Finance censorship, “It’s not Amnesty” amnesty, and the gang of 14 (who made sure that the Republicans couldn’t get any judges through to the floor to receive their confirmation votes unless McCain and his 13 cohorts granted them special favors, as kings sometimes gave peasants).
Or Huckabee, darling bass player of Leno fame, the only political outlet that most Californians are familiar with. (Yes, the place that savvy heavy-hitters choose to announce their candidacy.)
Except for a few conservative congressional districts, I can’t say that we should expect much positive help in the way of presidential delegates coming out of CA.
TwoCents on January 10, 2008 at 2:46 AM
Two words: McCain-Feingold (or is it one word if hyphenated?)
I could never, ever, ever vote for someone who tried to gut the First Amendment. I am a staunch conservative, but I would vote for Hillary before I would vote for McCain.
tballard on January 10, 2008 at 3:00 AM
McCain-Feingold, also know as the incumbents protection act.
The founding fathers put the first amendment into the U.S. Constitution and Imperial McVain tries to remove much of it.
Lincoln abolished slavery and Plantation McVain tries to legitimize and legalize a form of serfdom for plantation owners.
Pi$$ on him.
MB4 on January 10, 2008 at 3:11 AM
Thank god “stay home” is beating Huckabee…..
Tman on January 10, 2008 at 3:23 AM
As one who moved to Austin, TX from California I can say the most beautiful site I have ever seen in my life was seeing California in my rear view mirror as I crossed into Arizona. California is not the place it was when I was growing up. I lived there for 36 years before I left, and the only I things I miss of it are a few close friends who plan on leaving it within a few years, and the mountains. Oh God how I miss the mountains.
I hate California with such a passion for what she has been turned into that I have told my wife that I have seriously considered saving up money to have the remains of my parents exhumed and brought to Kentucky.
Go Fred!
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 4:14 AM
I started this campaign preferring Hunter, but saying I’d vote for anyone but Paul. Never dreaming Huck had a shot. Now even Krauthammer thinks he may be inevitable with everyone knocking each other off.
Oh, the humanity.
PowWow on January 10, 2008 at 4:54 AM
Are you kidding??? The poll is BS. Any poll where you cannot see the tabs and the sample distribution is bogus and I am surprised that HotAir falls for this, but with Laura Ingraham on a jihad against Rudy because he is Catholic but does not take the official Catholic position on abortion, I guess it should be expected
georgealbert on January 10, 2008 at 6:23 AM
You Huckabee shills are really amazing… the sheer volume of mercy you heap on Huck is heading in the direction of the Paulbots, who we all know would keep cavorting for him even if they saw him painting swastikas on synagogues. But the fact that anyone supporting Huckabee brings up the two-faced nature of any other candidate is… brassy.
Let’s take stock, in all honesty, and ignore the candidates’ silly excuses for a moment. Consider what they’ve all done so far and remove their nuanced explanations from the mix. You have to look at what they’ve done, and decide if you’re ok with that.
McCain:
I reject tax cuts, but…
I obstructed the nomination of conservative justices but…
I pushed for a broad amnesty for illegal aliens, but…
I oppose any kind of meaningful interrogation of terrorists, but…
I’ve built a reputation for betraying my party, but…
Rudy:
I grabbed guns in New York but…
I supported abortions but…
I supported gay civil unions but…
I said illegal aliens were welcome in NYC but…
I refuse to tack to the right on anything, but…
Romney:
I supported abortions but…
I introduced state-run healthcare but…
I’m a Mormon (???… do people still care about this?) but…
I ran to the left of Ted Kennedy on gay rights but…
I had some very conspicuous 11th hour “Road to Damascus” moments…
Huckabee:
I raised taxes on everything from gas to nursing home beds but…
I rejected school choice but…
I increased government spending but…
I don’t know what’s going on outside our borders but…
I said I think we should be nicer to Iran but…
I took money from stem-cell researchers but…
I casually stirred anti-Mormon and anti-Catholic sentiments but…
I support illegal immigration and called its opponents Un-Christian but…
I gave clemencies to an unprecedented volume of criminals, some of which killed again but…
I operate my campaign on a classically socialist platform but…
______
Pick your poison, but please Huck supporters… stop pretending that Huckabee’s excuses are any more palatable than Rudy’s, or McCain’s, or Romney’s.
Lehosh on January 10, 2008 at 6:44 AM
Then you will be on the bench with him, deciding who to support…
right2bright on January 10, 2008 at 7:51 AM
You are a panty waist coward surrendering the land of your father to invaders. I was born in LA, moved to Austin for school, but moved back to LA in 1991. I told my self that I am planting my feet and making my stand. I’ve been here through the riots, earthquakes, fires, O.J., and the mayoral of Tony Villar. Sure the city is run by former illegals for illegals, but I’m still here. I’m still standing. Of course I’m safely ensconced in my secluded home nestled in the Sherman Oaks hills and my kids are not quite old enough to need decent public school yet. If Rudy gets elected and gives me vouchers or if I make enough to afford private school, I’m staying. Otherwise, I’ll look at Orange County, but they are not going to run me off that easily.
tommylotto on January 10, 2008 at 7:52 AM
Huckabee…no.
McCain…no.
Romney…hell, no.
Who’s left?
We’re screwed.
fossten on January 10, 2008 at 7:56 AM
Bumper to bumper cars…sun not out till noon…overpriced everything…terrible food…crowded beach…no parking…most expensive ferry in the world, heavenly bodies, okay its worth it.
But I will take the mountains of NC…leave the heavenly bodies to you young’ns (not that I ever had the choice).
*
Now are you old enough to remember that to get onto the Island during the summer (beginning Easter week) you had to have a window shield sticker to show you were a resident? Still got mine.
right2bright on January 10, 2008 at 8:00 AM
The logic of electing a Dem by not voting for a relative Conservative, who is not conservative enough has always baffled me and gotten Dems elected.
Hening on January 10, 2008 at 8:02 AM
And the difference is? There are more illegals in Orange County, then LA. Santa Ana, the largest population of Hispanics outside of Mexico. Wait, just wait, when the real retirement hits California, how will CA ever pay for all of the government retirees? Look at the numbers, they are off the charts. The baby boomers are (pun coming) exploding, and taking the retirement and moving out of state. So you have heavy retirement (just beginning now, and increasing for the next 6 – 10 years), taking their money out of state to retire on. Then you add major Corps. leaving because CA is a lousy place to have a headquarters (taxes and regulations), and you end up with a system dependent on illegal immigrants. Just so some companies can compete with the high taxes, fees, regulations.
Some system…embrace illegal immigrants so they can help companies to combat obscene regulation from a government that demands companies to follow their legal mandates. Otherwords, the only way companies to can be legal (and profitable) is by hiring illegals.
*
I had to run off to NC, and now we are the #2 state for hispanic illegals. And fighting them not to have paid tuition. …heeeeeellllllpppp.
right2bright on January 10, 2008 at 8:13 AM
Please pardon me for repeatin’ myself- but this is still the comment that I would make today:
Ex-tex on January 10, 2008 at 8:53 AM
Yeah, go live in Orange County. You can work 3 jobs…oh wait, all the paying ones are leaving CA also. Hmmm, maybe you can get a job at Disneyland in Anaheim, clearly you live in Fantasyland already so you could walk to work and save on gas.
Take your stand, and when they cut your legs out from under you, you can let your machismo comfort you.
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 8:57 AM
I let my parents deal with the parking in the 60′s and 70′s. You’ll be happy to know the Fun Zone is still there, but the bumper cars were replaced last year by a nautical museum (like we need another one of those). Houses go for about $4,000 per week or more in the Summer.
Santa Ana is lost, but most of OC is relatively American. It is were LA republicans go to grey in the sun.
tommylotto on January 10, 2008 at 8:58 AM
422 would vote for McCain and 422 would vote for Huck.
If I could speak Spanish, I’d recite the constitution in Spanish, replacing all the relevant parts with Huckaselect passages from the bible.
What is wrong with us? McCain will be tough on the terrorists, and Huck will bring us all to Jesus, but after we win the war and our troops come home, will they think their jet just landed on runway de la Jesus at the Aeropuerto Internacional de la Ciudad de México?
csdeven on January 10, 2008 at 9:07 AM
Why does the poll button say “Submit”? Submission is not an option any more than death.
Attila (Pillage Idiot) on January 10, 2008 at 9:12 AM
Allah, it’s OK with me if you suspend political poll reporting. McCain and Huck are the MSM’s boys. They’re the next best thing to a Democrat in the White House. If Hillary or Obama lose, then they still get a liberal.
It’s already been shown that polls are inacurate and slanted. If I never see another poll, it would be fine with me.
orlandocajun on January 10, 2008 at 9:18 AM
BO’R had some guy on last night who’s poll was off by 13 points. The guy just shrugged it off, like it didn’t really matter.
RobertInAustin on January 10, 2008 at 9:21 AM
EXCELLENT! Perfectly summed up most of what I’ve been thinking about the candidates lately.
I remember being hammered a few months ago… “If Rudy is the Republican candidate, you better vote for him! Staying home is voting for a Dem in the Office!”
And yet Rudy is just as liberal as Huck… just with a different set of issues. Let’s see…
Rudy vs Huck:
Immigration… pretty much the same, although Huck is more open about it; pretty much what we have now with Bush
Guns… Huck pro-gun, Rudy anti-gun (and anti-2nd ammendment)
Abortion… Rudy for women killing their babies, Huck against it.
Taxes… both would increase
WOT… Rudy much better
Justices… Rudy SAYS he would appoint Conservative (which only works if you ignore his past appointments), Huck would probably appoint liberal, except on the pro-life issue.
Need I go on?
So if Huck is the candidate… will you Rudy fans do what you kept telling me to do months ago? Will you vote Huck? Or will you be hypocrites and stay home?
Honestly, the Huck mindset might be… we’ll probably get more of the status quo… but at least with Huck we have a chance of stopping the abortion slaughter.
That being said, I don’t like either Huck or Rudy. But I would vote for Huck over Rudy. I would never vote McCain. Who wants a renegade president who sides with Democrats?
Go Fred!
dominigan on January 10, 2008 at 9:24 AM
The polls aren’t the problem, girls. The candidates are.
Even in a HotAir poll, effing Schmuckabee gets 37%?! Good Lord…
Jaibones on January 10, 2008 at 9:26 AM
McCain v. Huckabee, hmmm, let’s see:
McCain: good on foreign policy, good on pork, a squish on taxes and torture, bad on campaign finance reform
Elmer Gantry: bad on crime, taxes, foreign policy, corrupt as hell and a Baptist minister.
I’ll hold my nose and vote for McCain. If it is Elmer, I’m voting Hillary, because I honestly believe she would be better on pork and foreign policy than this schumck.
PimFortuynsGhost on January 10, 2008 at 9:40 AM
I wouldn’t be happy to see either of these two as the nominee, but there’s no question that both of them are still much better than the Democratic alternative — who would be in their cabinet, at least SOME of their court picks would be good, etc.
Of these two, McCain is the far better choice for me, as WOT issues trump everything else. (If there was a democratic candidate I could believe would act sensibly on that, Huckabee would lose my vote — but the only one who even comes close is Hillary and she has 0 credibility).
Economic issues are my next priority and these guys both stink, but no worse than any of the Dems.
TMA on January 10, 2008 at 10:16 AM
Wrong.
1) Huck is a shyster in the mold of Elmer Gantry. He LIKES the illegal immigration. He will not back off his Jesus beliefs about it. They are poor, poor, people and we need to help and we will help. Pro-gun? I hope so because, like all shysters, Huck talks out of both sides of his mouth. He releases criminals because they “found Jesus” and then promotes guns so we can protect ourselves from his converts. He is completely worthless on national security, AND HE DOESN’T CARE. The bottom line is Huck will govern the country the way he governed Arkansas.
Rudy on the other hand defeated the Mafia. Cleaned up NYC. Kept his cool during 9/11. He was a federal prosecutor. A very good one at that. He governed NYC according to it’s own specific problems because outside forces weren’t helping him. Rudy has promised to secure the boarders, fight the WOT, nominate constructionist justices etc.
The bottom line is that Huck is a lying shyster and Rudy is trustworthy.
csdeven on January 10, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Rudy v. Huck
Are you on drugs!!!
tommylotto on January 10, 2008 at 11:13 AM
I agree with you Allah, suspend posting on politics. Just give me blogs on robots, Star Wars, iPhones, atheism, link to Ace’s Sir Mixalot Big Butts video, and any freaky deaky story out of Europe with subtle sexual overtones and that way I can stop holding my breathe and pounding my head on the table.
Your pessimism is driving me crazy, I’d rather have my mind stimulated by you in other areas than the Primary Election. Reading your blogs on the Primary Candidates is like this experiment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6GxIuljT3w
At some point I have to be disobedient to your authority or someone’s gonna get hurt.
Sultry Beauty on January 10, 2008 at 11:17 AM
Awesome! I love viral videos and sports! I just knew it was a good idea to register here!
OneGyT on January 10, 2008 at 11:31 AM
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it would seem so….& he is ‘the father’ of psycho!-analysis….
makes one pause….it is said that he followed in the Tradition of Ol’Mo…only it was his daughter, not a 9yr.old…..don’t know…but, he did put forth a theory that all women secretly want to be secretly raped by their fathers….. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm………
kinda creepy, kinda fk&d….. kinda cocaine.
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‘…runnin’all around ma’brain.’
signed: Mary & Sue
lobosan5 on January 10, 2008 at 11:37 AM
Well said. My feelings exactly.
docob on January 10, 2008 at 11:46 AM
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