Fred hints that South Carolina isn’t an absolute must-win
posted at 12:05 pm on January 9, 2008 by Allahpundit
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I had a laugh at the Fredheads’ expense late last night so here’s a juicy bone to chew on as atonement. A shockingly close second in SC could, I guess, propel him a tiny bit further. All he has to do to get there is beat any two of three among Romney, McCain, and Huck, despite actually having fallen a point in the South Carolina Rasmussen poll between December and January.
Keep hope alive!
Asked what he needed here in the Jan. 19 primary after a third-place finish in the Iowa caucuses and flagging in New Hampshire, Thompson said: “It might be first place.” He declined to speculate further.
“I need a strong signal that I’m a guy who will be strong in these upcoming states,” he said. “It very well could turn out that my political future depends on South Carolina.”
Thompson’s campaign sent e-mails Tuesday to “Thompson’s Troops” across the United States seeking volunteers to come to South Carolina at their own expense to recruit new supporters at events, turn out Thompson voters Jan. 19, make phone calls and knock on doors.
He’s not even running ads yet in the state. Any ‘Heads ready and willing to hit the ground in SC for their man? And, um, able to pay their own way down there to do so?
A little more good news, per Jonathan Garthwaite: Huck actually split the evangelical vote evenly last night with McCain and Romney. You can’t call one sample a trend but if he tanks with evangelicals in Michigan, too, it might be evidence that the constant attacks from talk radio are starting to soften his religious base. Good news for Fred and Mitt, although which one benefits more will depend on how Romney does next week.
And still more good news: Not only did the rEVOLution fail to manifest itself last night, but check this out. Good lord.
Update: St. McCain’s gotten a fundraising jolt from his New Hampshire surge. Would second place in SC do it for Fred?
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Fred will continue to disappoint, but where are the Fredheads to go??
Your Jewish Master on January 9, 2008 at 12:07 PM
I’m a Fredhead, but I’m well aware that SC is critical to the future of Fred’s campaign.
And I don’t know how Fred disappointed getting third in Iowa when everyone was saying 5th or 6th.
MadisonConservative on January 9, 2008 at 12:09 PM
Apparently the Presidency isn’t an absolutly must win for him either. That is OK. He could have been good though if he waged a serious campaign.
Tim Pancoast on January 9, 2008 at 12:10 PM
Go home, fire up the DVD player, and watch “Die Hard 2″, “The Hunt For Red October”, and “Flight Of The Intruder”.
Frozen Tex on January 9, 2008 at 12:12 PM
I’m sorry but Fred’s campaign has the energy and momentum of a turtle on quaaludes. It’s like he’s been asleep at the wheel this whole time. Just what the hell has he been waiting for?
Pcoop on January 9, 2008 at 12:13 PM
He really doesn’t have to get first place. He could get second place as long as it was close.
Jay on January 9, 2008 at 12:13 PM
Too bad Jewish Master thinks negatively about Fred. He won a straw poll in Wyoming well ahead Romney. If I could, I would travel to SC to help out. That’s big for me considering I have never had interest in helping candidates before. I believe Fred will surprise quite a few people in the weeks ahead.
geminicontender on January 9, 2008 at 12:14 PM
I’m with him until the end, but once he drops out, I’ll throw my (admittedly unenthusiastic) support to Mitt.
thirteen28 on January 9, 2008 at 12:14 PM
That sums it up.
Wow. That borders on terrific news if we get McCain in the general.
Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 12:15 PM
By being nuts?
Frozen Tex on January 9, 2008 at 12:16 PM
But then failed to get the delegates. That’s what’s so frustrating about Thompson. If he’d gone out and stomped around in Wyoming a bit, he could have won that state.
Slublog on January 9, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Blah, blah, blah…energy, old man, turtle, same old. Of course no one can attack his credentials. But instead lets bash Fred for not being energetic or charismatic, or not being able to raise enough funds, or just label him lazy. After all, hadn’t we rather put a RINO or rich flip-flopper up against the Dems?
Jay on January 9, 2008 at 12:19 PM
I watched his Fox News interview last night- he called SC his “firewall” and gave the impression that he needed a win or close 2nd or he’s done. A reasonable assessment.
Any 2nd place finish would have to be a near tie for 1st in my opinion. He’s still a longshot, but he’s at least more realistic than Duncan Hunter who after getting 1% in IA talked up NH… only to tank there. Yet he’s still in the race for unfathomable reasons. My respect for Hunter has diminished significantly- now it’s looking like little more than an ego-based campaign.
Hollowpoint on January 9, 2008 at 12:22 PM
Dude, the idiot has been shooting for second or third in every state he’s gone to. He was so idiotic he couldn’t even get the proper signatures to be on the Delaware ballot.
Keep dreaming. It’s clear that Fred cares about himself more than representing and advancing this country. You know who’s going to win in SC? Fred Thompson’s ego. As long as he stays #2.
BKennedy on January 9, 2008 at 12:22 PM
(hurriedly creating “Don’t blame me, I voted for Fred” bumper stickers)
frode on January 9, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Folks, its just FDS, they cannot help it. Even if Fred wins the GOP they will bitch that he took his time doing it. He could have done it faster etc.
Its just Fred Derangement Syndrome acting out, move along, nothing of any substance here too see.
RobertInAustin on January 9, 2008 at 12:23 PM
Romney is a moron. Giuliani is a jerk. McCain is a retard.
Oh, sorry…I was following your example. Can we raise the level of discourse, please?
MadisonConservative on January 9, 2008 at 12:24 PM
You can have the message, but you need to work on getting it out there.
amerpundit on January 9, 2008 at 12:24 PM
I’m not ready to attribute it to ego, because I don’t know the man, but I don’t understand why he is in it now either. He’s not a protest vote and hasn’t done well in either of the first two states. He’s welcome to stay I suppose, I just don’t know why he is unless he thinks some later states are extremely strong for him (CA & TX maybe). Still even if that were true…
Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Based on the comments in the “Trouble with Ron Paul” thread, the rEVOLution has manifested itself at HA quite well.
I gotta give Ron Paul’s supporters credit.
There may not be many of them percentage wise, compared to the other candidates.
But they do have a knack for showing up……..everywhere.
I’m expecting one of these days to wake up to a Ron Paul campaign sticker plastered on my ceiling.
Hawkins1701 on January 9, 2008 at 12:27 PM
With Mitt on the ropes, Rudy not doing well and Huckabee’s credentials starting to crumble, how can Fred think about getting out now? They’re falling from grace because people are learning about them more and more…and yet people don’t reject Fred because of negatives.
Time to start thinking about the *best* candidate for fundamental principles of Conservatism.
frode on January 9, 2008 at 12:28 PM
?
Guys, its all they have on him. They are suffering from FDS (Fred Derangement Syndrome). Fred can do no right in their eyes. If Fred were to win the GOP all they will do is complain that he took his time doing it.
Again, just explosive bouts of FDS, noting too see here of any real substance.
RobertInAustin on January 9, 2008 at 12:28 PM
“Idiot” is the only level of discourse Fred deserves because his behavior and strategy have been emblematic of an idiot. Not getting the right signatures on the Delaware ballot because he and his staff never boned up on the rules. Getting stoned in delegate count because they always shoot for the lowest acceptable rung, taking every opportunity to whine and complain about their media coverage but never capitalizing on opportunities to spread their message and strengthen their campaign.
That has been their behavior for the entire campaign from the very start. Blunder here, blunder there, aim low and if you fail it won’t feel so bad.
Fred may have the best policy papers on earth. If that’s the case, he should be writing a book on American political philosophy, not running for the chief executive office of the United States. It’s clear he doesn’t have the competence, the passion, or the energy to do anything more than post white papers on his website.
BKennedy on January 9, 2008 at 12:29 PM
Silly Jay, it’s not about the issues, it’s who wore the Red Dress with bling.
It’s like the ugly busting on the beautiful for being beautiful. It’s like the fat busting on the skinny for being skinny. It’s like the RINO busting on the conservative for being, well, conservative.
geckomon on January 9, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Actually, on the contrary. Fred’s my second choice, and my first isn’t doing so well. If Fred were to win the nomination, I’d feel much better. But the fact remains: He can have the message, but he actually has to get it out there.
amerpundit on January 9, 2008 at 12:31 PM
It’s more like the competent bashing the incompetent for consistently screwing up.
BKennedy on January 9, 2008 at 12:33 PM
Fred’s guilty of offering would-be voters too much substance. Voters don’t want substance, they want snappy, rehearsed buzzwords and key phrases that they can easily digest. Even Fred’s 17-minute appeal to Iowa voters was fact-laden, but ultimately overlong and too full of actual substance and actual positions.
Dumb it down, Fred. Every other candidate has a catchphrase, a buzzword, even a short little diatribe that they repeatedly fall back on that people associate with them. Fred doesn’t have that right now and nobody’s about to go try to handpick one out of an enormous position paper.
Give the soundbite media something to chew on, Fred. Something small.
World B. Free on January 9, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Just want to point out that this is your logic.
MadisonConservative on January 9, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Ah yes. Please, share your vast knowledge and superiority with the unenlightened.
MadisonConservative on January 9, 2008 at 12:35 PM
So in other words to answer MC is no, you are not capable of raising the level of discourse.
Gotcha.
Darksean on January 9, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Much ado about Fred’s money, but until youve actually counted it yourself…you just dont know. He registered in Kansas by the way.
Seems he’s in it for the long haul. Its gonna be a long year.
GO FRED GO!
NickTx on January 9, 2008 at 12:35 PM
Yeah, that sort of talk is going to garner a lot of support. Why not go full-bore and start calling anyone who isn’t a Thompson supporter a “sheeple?”
Slublog on January 9, 2008 at 12:36 PM
As my dad used to say to my mom: “Would you please let me drive the friggin car?”
Let Fred drive his own car. If he loses than he has no one but himself to blame. The way some people complain on here you would think they were on Thompson’s staff and were his paid consultants. If he wants their expert advice he will call them and ask for it. Until then, shut up and let Fred drive his car.
RobertInAustin on January 9, 2008 at 12:37 PM
How’s this for failed strategy: Start out your post with name calling. Works every time, unless you want to be ignored.
geckomon on January 9, 2008 at 12:38 PM
Fred is guilty of acting like a loser in a country that only values winners. Fred is guilty of giving long-winded sermons that, were he actually interested in doing so, could condense from 17 minutes to two minutes. More longer isn’t more better. No-one wants to listen to a man who finds losing acceptable ramble on for a quarter of an hour on what makes him a great candidate for President.
Fred doesn’t know America. He knows lobbying, he know’s lawyers, he knows Washington DC insiders. He hasn’t a bleeping clue about real Americans. He thinks he can just drive up in his red truck and banjo singing “I lieks me some conservatism hear” and we will all flock to him.
Note to Fred: When you act like a loser, people think you are a loser. America does not want a loser.
BKennedy on January 9, 2008 at 12:39 PM
Some of you may be in for a surprise. Fred! is going to be the king maker this year. It’s all in the delegates, doesn’t matter who wins each state as Romney proves. He leads all in delegate count with 30. Fred! will be in this until Feb 5 (at least) and HE may just very well get to choose who HE wants for the nominee.
Romney
RJS2 on January 9, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Since I helped pay for the gas, I’ll echo what ameripundit says and add to it. Thompson needs a better-organized campaign. Not what he’s saying, but how he gets his message out there.
Slublog on January 9, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Attack away, but the truth hurts. Look at the way people ate up Hillary’s crying moment or her “finding my voice” quote. And look at all the mileage Obama gets out of a single word – “Change.” Nobody even knows what the hell that means and people eat it up.
Meanwhile Fred’s giving us enormous position papers and 17 minutes of talking into a camera. You don’t see a difference? I’m not calling people who don’t support Fred dumb, I’m saying Fred needs to condense his message into something the people can digest.
World B. Free on January 9, 2008 at 12:40 PM
I dunno…Look at what happened in NH last night
NickTx on January 9, 2008 at 12:40 PM
I don’t think Fred is a loser? So what are you saying that makes people like me? See, the weaker the argument, the stronger the words.
RobertInAustin on January 9, 2008 at 12:41 PM
So, in other words, you can’t handle a fully laid-out plan. You want neat little commercial-sized sound bites than you can handle, or debate answers that don’t actually have any detail, just the right catchphrases and platitudes that catch your attention.
Like you said, you’re competent, Fred and his ilk are not. Educate us on how dumb we are to pay attention to someone speaking for more than two minutes.
MadisonConservative on January 9, 2008 at 12:42 PM
If Mike Huckabee wins the nomination, this Fredhead will go to the polls and write in Fred Thompson.
Fredalanche©
TheSitRep on January 9, 2008 at 12:43 PM
With the votes split evenly and the chances of a brokered convention increasing, a strong second- as I said before New Hampshire- may be all Fred needs. The scenarios are all there and have been there for some time; just not as likely as we FredHeads would like.
My question is whether AP will ever talk about Rudy’s wheels coming off and why is he still in the race. After all, he’s outspent Fred hugely to date and has 1 delegate to Fred’s 6 (New ‘frontrunner’ John has 10; Mitt leads with 30). Everyone might want to hold off nailing coffins shut before, you know, more than 4% of delegates are determined?
michaelo on January 9, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Makes sense. In a nonsense kind of way. In order to be popular at this “high school” you have to whore yourself. Forget anything you stand for, just pander. It’s disheartening to see this kind of justification coming from our conservative pundits as well.
I do understand why you said this though.
geckomon on January 9, 2008 at 12:44 PM
Error correction to prior post:
Romney 24 delegates
Huckabee 18
McCain 10 (courtesy of last night)
Thompson 6
Paul 2
Hunter 1
The Mayor 0
So Guiliani is loosing by this count, perhaps he should get out along with Hunter and Paul. Let the top four duke it out.
RJS2 on January 9, 2008 at 12:44 PM
I agree. Its way early and this year, its a different kind of race
NickTx on January 9, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Well, I have helped fill the tank too, but that doesn’t give me a say in how he is going to run it. Its not like when I hit the donate button that gives me a right to complain. People need to know their place, good grief. I also don’t like how Fred is doing things, but, then again I work on an Ambulance and Fred doesn’t. Fred isn’t going to presume to tell me how to be a medic and I won’t presume to tell him how to run a campaign. Maybe its not how I would do it, but I can always keep my money if I don’t like it. But I am under no delusion that just because I give that in some way makes me a part of his campaign team.
RobertInAustin on January 9, 2008 at 12:46 PM
So true. Before anyone writes off any candidate: it’s the delegates! Why are we banking on New Hampshire’s 12 delegates as being the say-all?
geckomon on January 9, 2008 at 12:47 PM
Why are people so sure they know how much money Fred has in the kitty?
NickTx on January 9, 2008 at 12:47 PM
For Fred to win in South Carolina he is going to have to attack somebody other than Mitt Romney.
Huckabee and McCain need to be taken down several notches and Fred has been very tender with the Huckster and blowing in McCain’s ear.
If Fred REALLY wants to do well in South Carolina, he will go after the McCain and Huck.
If you do not see that happen, you need to understand Fred does not want to win.
EJDolbow on January 9, 2008 at 12:48 PM
I don’t think I’m a member of his campaign team, but if someone wants to comment on a blog about his strategy, they should at least expect to do so without being told to “shut up.”
Slublog on January 9, 2008 at 12:48 PM
Didn’t McCain win the last New Hampshire Primary when they had 24 delegates?
geckomon on January 9, 2008 at 12:49 PM
Note to BKennedy: When you act like an A-hole, people think you are an A-hole. We don’t want an A-hole around.
Hollowpoint on January 9, 2008 at 12:49 PM
I’m not saying anything about Fredheads, all my disgust at Fred’s ineptitude is addressed at Fred himself. Fred is a public person. He is mismanaging his campaign horribly. Therefore I call him an idiot because idiots mismanage their campaign. He is also a whiner; he whines about the evil media and evil FNC keeping him down when all he’s just JMac-lite when it comes to civility.
17% of voters in Iowa thought Fred was a winner. 1.24% of voters in NH thought Fred was a winner. Fred’s delegate count is in deep downtown with Hunter’s. Fred isn’t looking good until SC, and he’s been doing pay-as-you-go with his funds because he doesn’t have a strong financial base.
Now this comes out, and he says “you know, that winning in SC thing… I think I’ll be alright with second, to go with my technical third and dead last, behind even UFO Kucinich’s count.” It reeks of mediocrity. Fred wants a coronation and dangit, if he isn’t going to be crowned automatically he’s not going to fight for it.
BKennedy on January 9, 2008 at 12:50 PM
Why does everyone think they know how much money Fred has in the kitty and what his campaign strategy is all about?
NickTx on January 9, 2008 at 12:50 PM
That is fine, but when all you get are these winey complainers, I would say a lot more than shut up if I could get it past the censors.
EJDolbow on January 9, 2008 at 12:48 PM
That was good.
RobertInAustin on January 9, 2008 at 12:53 PM
It’s misinterpretations like this that make me question your ability to reason with honesty. Come on now. He didn’t infer that and you know it.
geckomon on January 9, 2008 at 12:53 PM
You’re right. He didn’t infer it. He actually said it:
Slublog on January 9, 2008 at 12:54 PM
MSM much?
geckomon on January 9, 2008 at 12:55 PM
And what’s with that? What is it about being a Thompson supporter that leads to instant nastiness against critics of the guy?
Slublog on January 9, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Theres an element of surprise in the forecast.
NickTx on January 9, 2008 at 12:55 PM
What are you talking about? Who said anything about whoring yourself and giving up what you believe in?
Keep the message the same. Just CONDENSE IT and turn it into a snappy talking point. It’s the same thing, just smaller so the short-attention-span public will listen to it. What’s so hard to understand about this….
World B. Free on January 9, 2008 at 12:55 PM
They don’t. Otherwise they’d see that Fred has several million to work with. Funny how they ignore this page whenever I post it.
MadisonConservative on January 9, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Opps! Dang, I knew I’d fail if I just read the cliff notes!
geckomon on January 9, 2008 at 12:56 PM
I knew I liked you MadisonConservative.
NickTx on January 9, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Nah. New England elitist much. Thinks he knows better than those dumb Tennessee hicks, and his boy Mitt from his home state is just like himself, so he’s perfect.
Funny thing is, this is coming from someone in Madison, one of the most elitist-filled cities in the country.
MadisonConservative on January 9, 2008 at 12:57 PM
NellE on January 9, 2008 at 12:59 PM
I think you are attempting to make more of this than it actually is.
Using an analogy, like my father and mother, if she just said : “Hun, maybe you need to turn here” once in a while then that would be fine, but when my mom would just complain non stop, than shut up is what is needed.
RobertInAustin on January 9, 2008 at 1:00 PM
You know why I’m supporting Romney? Because St. Fred the Thompson won’t pull his head out of his A-hole. I really do want Fred to succeed, but he leaves anyone who wants to support him out to dry by making dumb mistake after dumb mistake after dumb mistake. It doesn’t take a Rhodes Scholar to figure out if your delegate count current and projected is in the hole, then your “I’m the clear conservative choice” rhetoric isn’t pulling its weight.
Furthermore, Fred’s behavior is an indictment of how he will behave as president. Fred is telling his opponent’s that he’s OK with being overtaken and overshadowed, being second is good enough, being weak is just dandy. What happens when the people he’s fighting against aren’t Maverick, Mr. Clean, Rudy Tooty, and Manic Minister, but Armageddonjad, Putin, El Diablo, and Kim Jong-Il?
They’ll laugh in Fred “perpetual second-best is winning too” Thompson’s face.
If Fred can’t figure out the rules of getting on the Delaware ballot, how is he going to engage in international negotioations?
President’s can’t just say the right thing to soothe the conservative soul, they have to be competent too. Fred’s attitude meakes him total fodder for Missus Clinton and The Messiah. Second to them means conservatism loses, regardless of how “pure” Fred is.
BKennedy on January 9, 2008 at 1:01 PM
Ok, a bit rough in the language. I apologize.
It’s not hard to understand, just I don’t agree. You are right, if that is what you want for your candidate: a sound biting, no substance, all fluff, 2-minute man.
geckomon on January 9, 2008 at 1:04 PM
I will take Fred any day over the current GOP line up when it comes to facing down those men. Fred will just tell them to go F themselves. You know its true.
FRED!
RobertInAustin on January 9, 2008 at 1:04 PM
Has anyone seen an recent polling from Michigan and Nevada?
RJS2 on January 9, 2008 at 1:04 PM
Actually AP, Fred’s campaign in IA saw roughly 150 people pay their own way to IA to volunteer for Fred. People came from CA, MA, TN, IN, TX, FL, everywhere.
American-Infidels.com on January 9, 2008 at 1:05 PM
Huzzah! JMac diplomacy.
I’m sure telling Ahmadinijad to go suck his camel is going to stop him from stockpiling nuclear technology.
BKennedy on January 9, 2008 at 1:07 PM
You know why you’re an A-hole? Because you keep calling Fred “Saint Fred” or any of a number of beatific labels as if his supporters do that, when we don’t.
I stand by the last time I labeled you what you were. It doesn’t need repeating, because Buy Danish will leap on me and have a fit over it.
MadisonConservative on January 9, 2008 at 1:08 PM
Unlike JMac, Fred! would bury his foot in Iran’s A$$. I think Iran would see Fred! as they did Reagan. I think Fred!, unlike the other wouldn’t take a public opinion poll before he nuked the crap out of em.
RobertInAustin on January 9, 2008 at 1:10 PM
serious question: exactly what would you suggest he do… or what should he have done… specifically.
I would suggest the the Republican BASE is much more in tune with Lindsay Graham and Arlen Specter than Ronald Reagan, and we are seeing the results.
edgehead on January 9, 2008 at 1:15 PM
Fredheads consistently say anyone who supports non-Thompson candidates are supporting style and soundbites over real substance. That they’re supporting RINOs over the “true conservative.” There are several quotes in this very thread.
I call him St. Fred the Thompson because in the minds of his supporters, he is the only true righteous paladin in a sea of RINOs, all of which will doom us and conservatism infinitely and foever. All the heretics must drop their candidates for true conservatism in the embodiment of Fred Thompson.
This is all in the face of the fact that Fred cannot help them help him, that his own blunders have made him unelectable, that his tsunami of support at the beginning of his campaign was just an abberation-merely an irregularly high wave and not the powerful force it was made out to be. Fred has since hemmoraghed his support, and csdeven and I have watched it plummet. Now even Fred himself is consistently setting his expectations toward mediocrity.
BKennedy on January 9, 2008 at 1:15 PM
That is another reason I like Fred. I want a man in office who scares the crap out of the terrorists and their supporters. I don’t see that in Huck, McCain, or Romney. Paul is the best friend they ever had.
RobertInAustin on January 9, 2008 at 1:16 PM
Perpetual second? Fred is so Mitt.
geckomon on January 9, 2008 at 1:17 PM
michaelo hit it on the head. With so many candidates running, and no clear early winner, we are looking more and more like brokered convention. There are those that say this won’t happen, and those that say we shouldn’t let this happen, but I’m encouraged. R.Paul isn’t going to quit until someone drives a stake through his heart. Mitt has enough cash to keep running with the idea of outlasting the funds of the other candidates. McCain and Huck think they’re about to skyrocket (though I doubt it). And Rudy is waiting on Super Tuesday. If Fred can hold on until at least Super Tuesday, and the voters continue to fracture as they have from state to state we will have a brokered convention.
This can work to our advantage. Once Obama or Evita are annointed as the Democratic candidate, we Republicans can choose any candidate we like in response. It could be Fred. Or maybe Newt. Or even Condi Rice.
I’m still holding my hopes for a strong showing in SC for Fred after Huck makes like the bottle rocket he is and begins freefall, but a brokered convention maybe the only way to retain the White House, and with it, the SCOTUS.
Browncoatone on January 9, 2008 at 1:18 PM
What blunders? Be specific.
edgehead on January 9, 2008 at 1:20 PM
The thing about Evangelicals is it doesn’t make sense to me how they all are assumed to vote for only other Evangelicals or they are an “easy to command monolith”. I think they are actually more diverse than many other groups. There are many evangelicals who’s concerns for education, healthcare and the environment lead them to vote Democratic. And there are plenty of Christian conservatives who aren’t as concerned with social issues as economic or security issues and really might not support Huckabee. I also think that they don’t vote based on if someone has the same exact beliefs as them, as long as someone is traditional and has strong faith, like Romney for example. They really are a more diverse group of voters than people give them credit for so we can’t just assume they will all go crazy for Huckabee.
mattyj86 on January 9, 2008 at 1:22 PM
Um, no, actually there’s Hunter. However, Hunter ranks last everywhere. He literally has no chance.
As for the soundbytes claim, you still haven’t responded to the admission you made that you prefer two-minutes soundbytes to a 17 minute speech laying clear everything he intends to do as president.
MadisonConservative on January 9, 2008 at 1:22 PM
Fred never laid the ground work in the states correctly. But that does not mean he isn’t a better commander in chief then any of the other candidates.
Fred Thompson has the best characteristics by far.
Vote for Fred!
msipes on January 9, 2008 at 1:24 PM
I call BS on this assertation. Hunter is my #1 choice. Then Romney. Romney doesn’t need money, Fred does. I don’t want Fred dropping out at this point. I think Romney will stay in no matter what. That’s why at this point, I’m supporting Fred. We need two good candidates going into the home stretch, not just a RINO vs. Romney. I want a Romney/Thompson ticket (or vice versa). I think there are quite a few with the same strategery idea I have.
NTWR on January 9, 2008 at 1:26 PM
I’m going to meet Fred today. I will have camera and checkbook in hand.
KelliD on January 9, 2008 at 1:39 PM
I’ve contributed to Fred08 and have his bumper sticker on my vehicle. Let me just say that although I’ve donated to the RNC, done phone banks for Reagan and Bush Sr., was a pollster for Reagan, I have never once donated to a Primary Candidate. I never wanted to waste my hard earned money on a wanna-be, only a General Candidate. I don’t have a lot of money or time to pass around. I have NEVER put ANY bumper stickers on ANY of my cars past, thought it makes the car look tacky.
I say it plainly: Maybe Mitt might end up being palatable in the end, although there are so many things that make him an ‘Eh’ candidate you certainly aren’t gonna see a heck of a lot of clamouring. The GOP Convention is gonna be one interesting, funny, scary thing! If you have Huckster, McCain, or Rudy at the helm. You picture them standing up there inspiring the masses of conservatives. Dude! There’s gonna be a rebellion there if it doesn’t happen now. I’m picturing the Octagon in my mind. I’m not inspired by any of them and I can hear you all aren’t inspired either, and the polls show that no one candidate is inspiring any of us.
Sultry Beauty on January 9, 2008 at 1:40 PM
If BKennedy wasn’t so long winded I might actually read one of his posts in it’s entirety. Anway we get the point. Anybody who doesn’t know where BKennedy stands raise your hand
Buttercup on January 9, 2008 at 1:42 PM
You’ve been pimping Romney since day one.
Using your argument, I guess we can expect a President Romney to frequently change positions, pander to special interest groups and spend boatloads of money. After all, that’s been his behavior on the campaign trail…
Hollowpoint on January 9, 2008 at 1:43 PM
Count me in, Fred! I helped in Iowa and I’m packing my bags and headed south on Friday. Come on FredHeads. We can still do this. Donate some cash. Phone for Fred. Head to SC and push the only TRUE conservative in this race to victory.
bigred on January 9, 2008 at 1:46 PM
The GOP hopefuls in sand.
KelliD on January 9, 2008 at 1:46 PM
Fred won the “Most Conservative of the Race” vote last night in liberal leaning NH. I’m with Fred until Fred is out of the race.
ihasurnominashun on January 9, 2008 at 1:55 PM
But it does show that he doesn’t know how to be an executive. Will he fail to lay the groundwork as president? Will he be able to select a staff and appointments that will solidify that ground work?
All valid questions.
csdeven on January 9, 2008 at 2:01 PM
Is he just puttering around to get the VP spot? Maybe someone should ask him if he`s got the fire in the belly for vice president.
ThePrez on January 9, 2008 at 2:03 PM
Acutally, Hunter won that with .5% of the vote. But Fred is still my guy.
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RobTN on January 9, 2008 at 2:03 PM
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