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Video: McCain’s acceptance speech

posted at 11:58 pm on January 8, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Not the whole thing, just the choicer excerpts. Pretty darned good, if perhaps not quite “Churchillian.”

We could do worse. Not much worse, but worse.


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I know people will knock him, and he’s not my favorite (mainly because I fear he’s too old and unelectable) but considering the alternatives, sign me up for Mac.

You “let the Dems rule for four years and then we’ll make a comeback” people are suicidal. We do not have four years to waste.

Hannibal Smith on January 9, 2008 at 12:02 AM

^ That said, I do realize New Hampshire is an outlier, and we’ll probably never see Mac in the top three again. But who knows. This is one wacky campaign.

Hannibal Smith on January 9, 2008 at 12:03 AM

We are at war, at least he knows it.

bnelson44 on January 9, 2008 at 12:04 AM

Hannibal Smith on January 9, 2008 at 12:03 AM

He’s tied for second in FL.

amerpundit on January 9, 2008 at 12:06 AM

we could do worse - HUCKABEE!

Defector01 on January 9, 2008 at 12:08 AM

Great speech about the war! I appreciate your service!

You are lying when you say that your backdoor bill last Summer with Uncle Teddy was not AMNESTY! We should not close Guantanamo. Waterboarding is not torture. Gang of 14 sucks. I could go on and on.

If my man Fred wants to really win this thing, he needs to point that out.

http://www.fred08.com

The ONLY TRUE CONSERVATIVE in the race

ReaganConservative3 on January 9, 2008 at 12:09 AM

Congratulations, old-timer.

Enjoy it because that could be all she wrote.

omnipotent on January 9, 2008 at 12:09 AM

He’s tied for second in FL.

amerpundit on January 9, 2008 at 12:06 AM

He could pull independents in Mich as well and give Romney a run for his money.

bnelson44 on January 9, 2008 at 12:09 AM

McCain-Lieberman: I’d pull the lever.
McCain-Petraeus: I’d pull the lever happily.
McCain-Lindsay Graham: I don’t think I’d make it out of the car to the voting booth.

Marcus on January 9, 2008 at 12:09 AM

Did everyone forget about that whole George Allen “Macaca” thing yet? …. please? ….. no?

henzou on January 9, 2008 at 12:10 AM

Decent speech, horribly delivered.

Security Mom on January 9, 2008 at 12:10 AM

Well, there are only three that can win the R nom now. McCain, Huckabee, and Romney. Who wins will depend on Michigan and South Carolina.

I’m not saying I like it, I am just telling it like it is. . . oh and there never was any doubt that Hillary was going to be the D nom.

ThackerAgency on January 9, 2008 at 12:10 AM

How McCain wins the nomination

bnelson44 on January 9, 2008 at 12:11 AM

And Romney is WAY far behind.

ThackerAgency on January 9, 2008 at 12:11 AM

MAC IS BACK.

Good Lt on January 9, 2008 at 12:11 AM

Allahpundit, it was a terrific speech by John McCain. It is not a matter of whether we could do worse. It is a matter that we cannot do better. And Hannibal Smith, John McCain is electable; indeed, he may be the only Republican who can beat the Democrats in 2008.

John McCain is clearly the most qualified of the candidates to be Commnader in Chief. He is heads above the rest in terms of experience and knowledge about military matters, national security and foreign affairs. That is why he has the endorsements of, among others, former Secretaries of State George Schultz, Henry Kissinger, Alexander Haig and Lawrence Eagleburger, former national security officials R. James Woolsley, Robert Inman, Bud MacFarlane and Tom Keane, former Cabinet Secretaries Jack Kemp, Tom Ridge and James Schlesinger, and former Navy Secretaries John Lehman and William Ball. Consider Iraq as a test case: John McCain was right for years, first in criticism of the prior “light footprint” strategy that left too few troops and then in supporting the surge under Gneral Petraeus when it was not politically popular — when Democrats were declaring defeat and Republicans were either hedging their bets (like Senator Lugar) or looking at their shoes (like Romney). Not John McCain, who throughout supported the troops, visiting them often. I must give heartfelt thanks on this point. My older son is a U.S. Army First Lieutenant with Ranger tab who last October finished a 15-moth tour of duty in Iraq as an infantry platoon leader earning a Bronze Star and Commendation Medal for Valor for actions under fire; and yes, I knew how lonely it was to support the troops a year ago and yes, I greatly valued John McCain’s support of the troops.

I value John McCain’s devotion to country, and I think the readers here should also.

Phil Byler on January 9, 2008 at 12:11 AM

Riddle me this Boyos: Do you really trust the “brains” behind the Gang of 14 to choose the next appointee to the Supreme Court?

Just askin’

Dirthead on January 9, 2008 at 12:12 AM

It is not a matter of whether we could do worse. It is a matter that we cannot do better.

SECOND LOOK AT McCAIN!

Allahpundit on January 9, 2008 at 12:12 AM

A terribly weak speech. He’s simple-spoken, and by trying to warble on with his touches of rhetorical fancy he came off as Joe Sixpack taking a turn at the local theatre in the role of Brutus in Julius Caesar. It came off flinty. McCain is an honorary citizen of New Hampshire, at least symbolically. Keep it simple, John.

He’s conservative on war, abortion, taxes, spending, and…. that’s it. I don’t think he can unite the GOP base. He won’t make it to the top of the GOP ticket.

What McCain needs now is to lose all the other states and drop out fast. Then he can start his run as an independent. That’s his only chance at winning in November.

indythinker on January 9, 2008 at 12:13 AM

I’m no fan of McCain, but I thought it was a good speech. As we did with Bush, we will have to hold our Senators’ feet to the fire with immigration when he’s elected. It will be hard work for all of us, but well worth keeping a democrat, especially a Clinton, out of the White House.

SouthernGent on January 9, 2008 at 12:14 AM

When it comes to personal temperament, Governor Romney would rate the highest for his even keel, regardless of what events are swirling around him, with Rudolph Giuliani a close second.

Temperament is far more important for a President than for a candidate. A President has to be on an even keel 24/7, for four long years, despite crises that can break out anywhere in the world at any time.

John McCain trails the pack in the temperament department, with his volatile, arrogant, and abrasive know-it-all attitude. His track record in the Senate is full of the betrayals of Republican supporters that have been the party’s biggest failing over the years and its Achilles heel politically.
- Thomas Sowell

Thomas Sowell is spot on as is his clear inference that McCain is mentally unfit to be President.

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 12:15 AM

His speech could have been delivered better but it hit the right notes.

Much like Marcus, in part it depends on who else would run with McCain. My ideal ticket is McCain-Hunter

Defector01 on January 9, 2008 at 12:15 AM

1st look at McCain/Bush (Jeb)!!

SouthernGent on January 9, 2008 at 12:17 AM

we could do worse - HUCKABEE!

Defector01 on January 9, 2008 at 12:08 AM

It could be worse - we could be hung rather than shot!

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 12:18 AM

Fantastic speech–directed at the entire country as well as to NH.

It’s the closest to Churchill since…well, Bush made a couple of good speeches after 9/11 but nothing like this with the soaring rhetoric, the vivid love of country, the acceptance of the terrible and sometimes necessary burdens of war.

I have the urge to write him a check.

PattyJ on January 9, 2008 at 12:23 AM

This drives me crazy.

If he were just better on domestic issues, he’d be the perfect candidate.

How can a man be so right on foreign policy and the WOT, and be so wrong everywhere else?

I’ll give him credit though. The speech, and the crowd reaction, for one brief moment, made me feel better about this election, and our party’s chances.

But only for a moment.

Hawkins1701 on January 9, 2008 at 12:24 AM

Oh please.

The man has about as much warmth and charm as a paper bag full of hair.

I’d rather pick lettuce for $50 an hour in the hot Arizona sun than make a mark by his name.

The Ugly American on January 9, 2008 at 12:25 AM

If my man Fred wants to really win this thing, he needs to point that out.

http://www.fred08.com

The ONLY TRUE CONSERVATIVE in the race

ReaganConservative3 on January 9, 2008 at

In a state whose motto is “Live Free or Die,” Fred! got fewer votes than Dennis Kucinich.
I’m a Fredhead, but…ouch.

billy on January 9, 2008 at 12:26 AM

And Sully likes him.

Need I say more?

The Ugly American on January 9, 2008 at 12:27 AM

“I value John McCain’s devotion to country, and I think the readers here should also.”

Like the other posters here, I do. Like them, I love the Bill of Rights in our Constitution that McCain spit on, with McCain-Feingold, protecting our borders (unlike his Shamnesty, and subsequent lying), our free enterprise system (unlike his votes against Tax cuts and Abolishing the Death Tax) as well as his bizarre Global Warming scamming), his constant, almost psychotic undermining of Republican unity and his unbridled MSM- butt kissing. The other posters can fill in the rest - the list goes on and on.

If being correct on the War on Terror is the only thing that qualifies a candidate for the Republican nomination, then the ultra-liberal Joe Lieberman should be our nominee.

Oh yes - one more well-known thing - he is a raving freaking lunatic who abuses his staff and has strange emotional outbursts. Wait for that frontpage MSM story to break after his nomination.

TexasJew on January 9, 2008 at 12:28 AM

Truth of the matter is, like it or not, movement conservatives are gonna have to look hard at Romney.
Take a SECOND LOOK AT MITT, WHO ALWAYS COMES IN SECOND!

billy on January 9, 2008 at 12:30 AM

I don’t care for the man particularly, but I really thought this speech was really sharp.

Spirit of 1776 on January 9, 2008 at 12:30 AM

Great speech. He’s still a Rino, but great speech.

Theophile on January 9, 2008 at 12:31 AM

So it’s going to all boil down to the Pillsbury Doughboy and the Glacier Queen?

Worst you say?

Let me dust off up my Jimmy Carter misery meter.
In this case, one size fits both.

Kini on January 9, 2008 at 12:32 AM

John McCain is clearly the most qualified of the candidates to be Commnader in Chief.

Phil Byler on January 9, 2008 at 12:11 AM

Why do you keep saying that. Do you think that it will become true by repetition?

It is Bravo Sierra.

McVain is mentally unfit to be CiC.

John McCain trails the pack in the temperament department, with his volatile, arrogant, and abrasive know-it-all attitude. His track record in the Senate is full of the betrayals of Republican supporters that have been the party’s biggest failing over the years and its Achilles heel politically.
- Thomas Sowell

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 12:32 AM

How can a man be so right on foreign policy and the WOT, and be so wrong everywhere else?

Hawkins1701 on January 9, 2008 at 12:24 AM

He is not right “on foreign policy and the WOT”, as he has a very Iraqi-centric view of it and a very poor understanding of Islam.

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 12:37 AM

We do not have four years to waste.

Hannibal Smith on January 9, 2008 at 12:02 AM

As much as I’d like to pretend otherwise, you are right. Especially with the number of judges the next President will probably nominate.

joewm315 on January 9, 2008 at 12:37 AM

McCain / Kennedy ‘08… and the ‘gang of 13′ can divy up the cabinet positions!

Sorry. I couldn’t resist. I must say. The folks of Hampshire are some silly sobs. I’m tellin’ ya.

Griz on January 9, 2008 at 12:38 AM

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 12:37 AM

Viet Nam, he understands. Yes, he’s a Viet Nam war HERO.
MB4 - you nailed it.

Kini on January 9, 2008 at 12:39 AM

And Sully likes him.

Need I say more?

The Ugly American on January 9, 2008 at 12:27 AM

TUA!! I love you on sondrak.com (which everybody should check out) and you are correct here. McCain delights in being the proverbial turd in the punchbowl, not pushing conservative legislation. He has personally disparaged those of us who oppose illegal immigration, and has not represented Arizonans well.

joewm315 on January 9, 2008 at 12:41 AM

I would support him if it came to that, because of the obvious (we are at war and he’d be a good, though not as great as many think, war time leader). But 1-we can do better than McCain, and 2-I don’t think he will be that electable. And the Sowell commentary that MB4 is quoting is dead on, imo.

And btw, if you fellow conservatives think Bush has disappointed you, just wait for a McCain presidency.

Patriot33 on January 9, 2008 at 12:42 AM

I’d rather pick lettuce for $50 an hour in the hot Arizona sun than make a mark by his name.

The Ugly American on January 9, 2008 at 12:25 AM

“You can’t do it, my friends.”
- John McCain

Amnesty could kill him. Nobody remembers the Keating Five scandal. But amnesty? Have you been to a hospital emergency room lately? Or read the police log in the Nashua Telegraph?

This is why McCain so loathes Mitt Romney. Romney is calling him on it, and McCain, who has never been too tightly wrapped, is about three 30-second spots on WMUR away from a Caine Mutiny-like meltdown.

Did you see what happened at the debate Saturday night, when he tried to zing Mitt on flip-flopping? Before McCain got to the punch line he began giggling - always a bad sign. When he delivered it - “I agree, you are the candidate of change” - hardly anybody laughed, and then just out of embarrassment.

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 12:43 AM

Well as of right now we have there are four options for america to pick from:

McCain
Huckabee
Obama
Clinton

3/4 are liberals
1/4 has at least some conservative credentials

you make hte call

Defector01 on January 9, 2008 at 12:43 AM

HE IS TOO DAMN OLD. I keep waiting for the skin on his face to peel off. Sorry but THAT IS LIFE.

Go ahead pick McCain. I dare ya’! I’ll vote for Obama. “Yes I can!”

Agrippa2k on January 9, 2008 at 12:44 AM

Again WOT trumps Immigration

William Amos on January 9, 2008 at 12:45 AM

Defector01 on January 9, 2008 at 12:43 AM

Um, Fred?

Kini on January 9, 2008 at 12:45 AM

“I value John McCain’s devotion to country, and I think the readers here should also.”

He is not devoted to his country.

Not to the majority of it’s citizens.

To the serf master plantation owners however, you betcha.

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 12:46 AM

his unbridled MSM- butt kissing. The other posters can fill in the rest - the list goes on and on.
TexasJew on January 9, 2008 at 12:28 AM

I’m working on it….. But I really need to get some sleep tonight.

GROGGY LOOK AT MCCAIN FOR PRESIDENT!

Mcguyver on January 9, 2008 at 12:46 AM

Hathe no fear. This is definitely John’s last hoorah. He’s a loser.

Griz on January 9, 2008 at 12:48 AM

McCain
Huckabee
Obama
Clinton

3/4 are liberals
1/4 has at least some conservative credentials

Defector01 on January 9, 2008 at 12:43 AM

OK, I give up, which one?

Clinton?

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 12:52 AM

Maybe there were some ballots leftover from when he won NH in 2000.

pedestrian on January 9, 2008 at 12:54 AM

Again WOT trumps Immigration

William Amos on January 9, 2008 at 12:45 AM

The overrunning of our country by tens of millions of people whose loyalties lay elsewhere trumps the so called “WOT”. It is not even close.

BTW as to the “WOT”, I wonder why our Nary just sat there with their thumbs up their butts for a half hour with all those threatening Iranian boats harassing them. I bet it wasn’t their idea.

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 12:57 AM

Wow, you thought that was a great speech? I was screaming at the tv like Elaine in Seinfeld, “Shut up!”.
It was way too long. He just won NH, this speech was so monotone and long it drove me seriously crazy. Has anyone forgot this is the same guy with a load of liberal tendencies? Is this the best we could do? Yikes. I also don’t get all this junk about if he or Romney lose this state, they lose everything? I don’t get that philosphy at all. And while I’m at it, Rudy should have actually campained there, big mistake. With all the hub bub, I’m still undecided. But to say that was a great speech, I guess we hear differently.

Conservatives R Us on January 9, 2008 at 1:00 AM

Estoy tan feliz de que usted Seinor McCain

Esperamos su reinado

Kini on January 9, 2008 at 1:03 AM

if it wasn’t for:
“campain finance reform” (gag)
and:
“comperhensive immigration reform” (gag and hold back vomit)
i would camp put at my local voting place to pull the lever for this great man.

RMC1618 on January 9, 2008 at 1:05 AM

¿Puedo hierro superiores de su camisa McCain

Kini on January 9, 2008 at 1:05 AM

El senador McCain, cuando se muere Espero que ir a un lugar en el que pasar el resto de la eternidad recogiendo lechuga.

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 1:07 AM

Most important - his wife would be a really elegant first lady.

Seriously, he hasn’t always been my first choice, but I’d be proud to support because of what he represents by virtue of his service, and those of you considering sitting out the election on immigration might want to think about how our enemies and our friends as well will react to a victory by the Retreat At Any Price Party.

We can deal with a sometimes abrasive and temperamental C-in-C. He wouldn’t be the first.

I’m guessing 90% or so the rightwing purists who post on internet message boards about how they’d never forgive him for the Comprehensive POS or the Gang of 14 or Campaign Finance Reform would end up voting for him, but I don’t expect any of you to admit it now while the nomination’s still in play.

CK MacLeod on January 9, 2008 at 1:07 AM

Can there be that many Granite Blockhead in New Hampshire?

Kini on January 9, 2008 at 1:08 AM

I’m guessing 90% or so the rightwing purists who post on internet message boards about how they’d never forgive him for the Comprehensive POS or the Gang of 14 or Campaign Finance Reform would end up voting for him, but I don’t expect any of you to admit it now while the nomination’s still in play.

CK MacLeod on January 9, 2008 at 1:07 AM

No se cuenta el que los pollos antes de que nacen. La mayor parte estan muertos.

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 1:10 AM

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 1:07 AM

Y Chili Peppers!

Kini on January 9, 2008 at 1:10 AM

No me valla en!

Kini on January 9, 2008 at 1:12 AM

¿Puedo hierro superiores de su camisa McCain

Kini on January 9, 2008 at 1:05 AM

Puedo orinar en los pantalones senador McCain?

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 1:14 AM

To mb4: your posts on “temperment” are complete nonsense. If Romney has such a “cool” temperment, then why was it that it was Romney who was running the most negative campaigns in Iowa and New Hampshire? The fact is that a supposed cool temperment is of no help if you don’t have the experience and the knowledge to deal with critical parts of the President’s job.

Give me a Patton; he was a winner. Give me a McCain; he knows his stuff on military matters, national security and foreign affairs.

Phil Byler on January 9, 2008 at 1:15 AM

So if McCain is elected, is he still bound to the Gang of 14? Will he have to put in judges that they will approve of?

roccoverde on January 9, 2008 at 1:17 AM

Well I see that you Gringos are finally wising up and learning some el Espanol.

I will tell my old little lap dog Juan that you are being good ninos pequenos tonight.

He will be so pleased.

VinyFoxy on January 9, 2008 at 1:19 AM

What precisely was your problem, Conservative R Us, about what was an excellent speech by John McCain? Did you dislike the part about facing up to the struggle with the radical Islamic jihadists? Did you dislike the part about devotion to country? Were you offended by the use of the words “God bless”? Perhaps you should select a new moniker because a conservative would enjoy the speech and you say you didn’t.

Phil Byler on January 9, 2008 at 1:20 AM

Phil Byler on January 9, 2008 at 1:15 AM

The words about McStrawberries temperament were from Thomas Sowell.

Of course Romney’s ads were “negative”. how could they have been anything else when they were about Juan McShamnasty?

Patton would have slapped McVain in the face.

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 1:23 AM

Puedo orinar en los pantalones senador McCain?

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 1:14 AM

McCain tuvo un pensamiento, pero pooped en sus pantalones.

VinyFoxy on January 9, 2008 at 1:19 AM

WAAAAAAAHHH!!!

Kini on January 9, 2008 at 1:28 AM

Good god, McCain makes President Bush sound like Shakespeare
He read the speech word for word on a piece of paper, had no rhythm, and looked like he was pissed off at his supporters for interupting him with clapping. McCain is one odd duck, that’s for sure.

froghat on January 9, 2008 at 1:28 AM

Did you dislike the part about devotion to country?

Phil Byler on January 9, 2008 at 1:20 AM

Juan McShamnasty is NOT devoted to America. Not at all.

Well OK, he is devoted to the serf master plantation owners in America and their “contributions” but that’s about it.

Do you think that he is devoted to American police who must spend time with all the crimes committed by illegals?

Do you think that he is devoted to American students and their schools that are overcrowded because of illegals?

Do you think that he is devoted to American patients and their hospitals that are overcrowded because of illegals?

Do you think that he is devoted to American tax payers who must pay for all this?

Do you think that he is devoted to the thousand upon thousand of Americans who have been killed by illegals?

And please don’t tell me that he is devoted to the troops as he just recently said that it was fine with him if they stayed in iraq for a hundred years.

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 1:31 AM

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 1:14 AM

I don’t speak Espanol. Could you teach me so that I could work in jefe McCain’s Norte Americano?

billy on January 9, 2008 at 1:32 AM

To Texas Jew (that’s your moniker), let’s examine your “issues.”

Tax Cuts: when Bush originally propoed the tax cuts, McCain called for domestic spending cuts along with the tax cuts at a time when we were needing to finance military expenditures; that was the fiscally responsible conservative position. How many times does this have to be pointed out? Going forward, we need to get out of control federal spending under control, don’t you think? McCain is a fiscal hawk for cutting federal spending and eliminating earmarks. McCain is for continuing the present tax cuts and points out that had he been listned to, maybe we could be talking about more tax cuts.

Immigration: McCain has been saying for months that he got the message, that law enforcement comes first. I heard him say it back in September in New York City. Also, the immigration bill that McCain sought to pass was not amnesty on its face; what would have caused it to be amnesty is if the law enforcement provisions were not enforced. As McCain recognizes, the immigration bill signed by none other than President Reagan back in the 1980’s created an amnesty then because its law enforcement provisions were not enforced, creating the present problem. McCain says that while we need to address the underlying problem, we must first focus on law enforcement.

Campaign Finance Reform: it did not kill free political speech; the lawyer and conservative Fred Thompson voted for it. Regulation of the electoral process is not by definition a First Amendment violation. What McCain was seeking to do, with the best of intentions, was to cut the influence of money on politics. There are problems that lawyers like me understand and that have been occupying the U.S. Supreme Court; suffice it to say that this is not going to be an issue that will dominate the legislative agenda in the next four years.

In contrast, military matters, national security and foreign affairs will be paramount in the next four years. I think, Texas Jew, that you take much too lightly the Presiednt’s responsibiity as Commander in Chief. Why McCain is heads above the rest on that responsibility, I said well in my 12:11 AM post.

Phil Byler on January 9, 2008 at 1:32 AM

Again WOT trumps Immigration

William Amos on January 9, 2008 at 12:45 AM

It should, all day long, but I really don’t think that’s what’s happened. If so, then why is the Huckster a Republican frontunner?

Immigration isn’t even my main opposition to McCain. And frankly, I think Giuliani, Romney, and Thompson are just as good if not better on national security issues.

Patriot33 on January 9, 2008 at 1:33 AM

Give me a McCain; he knows his stuff on military matters, national security and foreign affairs.

Phil Byler on January 9, 2008 at 1:15 AM

Then why close Gitmo, etc. What to do with these prisoners?

PowWow on January 9, 2008 at 1:36 AM

TNR calls Obama’s failure to include a chorus of “Si, se puede” in his “Yes, we can” concession speech a “missed opportunity“.

LagunaDave on January 9, 2008 at 1:40 AM

To mb4: your attack on John McCain as not being devoted to America is asinine. What you quote in your 1:31 AM post is a reference to John McCain’s victory speech where he was calling for service to country, but then you make fun of it. I remember when you made fun of John McCain’s war service, and I thought that you hsd sunk to a stupid low then. Now, you engage in a non sequitur attack on John McCain’s praise of service to country in his victory speech upon winning the New Hamposhire primary. As was once asked of a better man than you: have you no decency, sir?

To the extent that immigration is an issue, I refer you to my 1:32 AM post.

Phil Byler on January 9, 2008 at 1:41 AM

To mb4: no, Patton would not have slapped John McCain, who is a genuine war hero. Patton would have slapped you.

Phil Byler on January 9, 2008 at 1:43 AM

Phil Byler on January 9, 2008 at 1:41 AM

Why don’t you just try to answer the questions that I posed in

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 1:31 AM

rather than trying to change the subject from Juan Mcshamnasty to me? That attempt at misdirection is so transparent.

I will repeat the main ones for your convenience.

Do you think that he is devoted to American police who must spend time with all the crimes committed by illegals?

Do you think that he is devoted to American students and their schools that are overcrowded because of illegals?

Do you think that he is devoted to American patients and their hospitals that are overcrowded because of illegals?

Do you think that he is devoted to American tax payers who must pay for all this?

Do you think that he is devoted to the thousand upon thousand of Americans who have been killed by illegals?

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 1:55 AM

MB4, this is just NH. He won’t make it beyond here. I understand all your points/concerns, though.

Entelechy on January 9, 2008 at 2:00 AM

To mb4: no, Patton would not have slapped John McCain, who is a genuine war hero. Patton would have slapped you.

Phil Byler on January 9, 2008 at 1:43 AM

I don’t know what he would have done that for.

I never lost a multi million dollar piece of equipment.

McVain got shot down after a relative handful of bombing mission and spent 6 years in an NVA prison. It must have been a terrible ordeal but it was as an unlucky war victim.

BTW, the air campaign over North Vietnam was never exactly a rip roaring success.

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 2:02 AM

Immigration: McCain has been saying for months that he got the message, that law enforcement comes first.

Congress said the same thing, and they just surreptitiously killed the border fence.
McCain has had too many chances to prove his devotion to combatting illegal aliens. McCain trying to make excuses by pointing fingers at Reagan is foolish. Things are worse with regards to illegals than they were in the 80’s.
My own city, Phoenix, has suffered from McCain and crew’s lack of action on this issue. We have had two police officers shot by illegal immigrants with prior records. My neighborhood had an informal citizen’s patrol that attempted to paint over all the gang graffitti in our immediate area, but we were unable to keep up with the taggers, and most of our members lost interests after threats were made. McCain no longer has my confidence on this issue. There is such a thing as too little, too late.

joewm315 on January 9, 2008 at 2:05 AM

MB4, this is just NH. He won’t make it beyond here. I understand all your points/concerns, though.

Entelechy on January 9, 2008 at 2:00 AM

I did warn folks yesterday that if Juan Plantation Strawberries McShamnasty won I would not be in my normal happy-go-lucky, bubbly, joyful mode.

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 2:07 AM

joewm315 on January 9, 2008 at 2:05 AM

That was an over reactionary post unsubstantiated by anything but personal anecdotes, so here’s a story with some numbers.

joewm315 on January 9, 2008 at 2:08 AM

I thought he looked awkward

Drunk Report on January 9, 2008 at 2:11 AM

BTW, the air campaign over North Vietnam was never exactly a rip roaring success.

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 2:02 AM

Damn that McCain!
Rhe air war would have been a sucess if it hadn’t been for that $#%#@@ McCain!

I never lost a multi million dollar piece of equipment.

Good point!
BTW,by the way, what multi-million dollar piece of equipment have you been entrusted with?

billy on January 9, 2008 at 2:12 AM

I would not be in my normal happy-go-lucky, bubbly, joyful mode.

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 2:07 AM

But you are being yourself - who are you actually trying to kid?

p.s. it was almost certain for a while that he’d win NH. That is different from any other state. It’s not a given going forward for Hillary either. NH is simply different.

Entelechy on January 9, 2008 at 2:13 AM

my normal happy-go-lucky, bubbly, joyful mode.

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 2:07 AM

Me estremece pensar lo que sería.

Kini on January 9, 2008 at 2:14 AM

BTW,by the way, what multi-million dollar piece of equipment have you been entrusted with?

billy on January 9, 2008 at 2:12 AM

Stay clear of things you don’t have a clue about. He might have.

Entelechy on January 9, 2008 at 2:15 AM

Kini, try to cheer our friend MB4 up.

Entelechy on January 9, 2008 at 2:15 AM

MB4

Growup! McCain was and is a war Hero

EricPWJohnson on January 9, 2008 at 2:17 AM

Entelechy on January 9, 2008 at 2:13 AM

He did spend a lot of time in NH and he pressed hard for the vote.
So he won, it’s still early in the cycle. Anything can still happen.

Kini on January 9, 2008 at 2:18 AM

I said often, he’s a hero, even if MB4 has reservations, and his time has also passed, and he’s got lots of issues. Certainly we can hold several thoughts in our cabezas concurrently.

Entelechy on January 9, 2008 at 2:24 AM

MB4

Growup! McCain was and is a war Hero

EricPWJohnson on January 9, 2008 at 2:17 AM

I will never “growup” if the price is McVain. Never, never, never, too high a price!

How many enemy did he kill or capture now. I forget.

Oh that’s right they captured him.

He was a war victim. Kind of like a cancer victim only one that was cured after 6 years. Well I guess I should say released rather than cured. Depends on what the meaning of cured is and what the meaning of is, is I suppose.

I don’t think he will ever be cured of what infects him.

MB4 on January 9, 2008 at 2:26 AM

FC, trink das letzte Bier aus, und schlaf gut. Morgen ist alles anders.

Entelechy on January 9, 2008 at 2:31 AM

Entelechy, my good friend, I’m trying to cheer MB4 up.
Yes, McCain is a war hero, but from a different time and place.
I hate to say he’s a relic, but he is and should be honored as so.

MB4 - can a cure be found in any of the candidates.

Kini on January 9, 2008 at 2:31 AM

He just said terrorists are going to surrender. I never thought I’d say this, but John McCain is underestimating the terrorists if he thinks that.

Mark Jaquith on January 9, 2008 at 2:32 AM

Certainly we can hold several thoughts in our cabezas concurrently.

Entelechy on January 9, 2008 at 2:24 AM

Actually mi pequena Dama you should be working on putting more el Espanol in your cabezas.

Time is running out as Juan will be el Presidente soon.

Well he will be the official el Presidente, but I will of course be the real power behind the throne.

VinyFoxy on January 9, 2008 at 2:33 AM

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