Open thread: Primary results; Update: Silky staying in?
posted at 6:03 pm on January 8, 2008 by Allahpundit
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I don’t know when the exit polls are going to be released but the fact that CNN is starting to release stuff like this makes me think “soon.”
Something to ponder while we wait: Would an enormous Obama blowout on the Democratic side change your GOP primary vote at all? The bigger his victory, the more one has to start planning for him in the general. McCain and Huck match up reasonably well (although not all that well). Mitt, I think, less so.
Update: Fox News says 59% of independents are breaking towards Democrats, which means a big win for Obama. He’s leading Hillary 44-30 among them. Among independents voting Republican, McCain leads 37-26.
Evangelicals make up only 21% of the vote.
Update: More exit-poll mania from CNN. 18% of Dems and 15% of Republicans decide at the last minute. More good news for Obama, probably.
Update: Here’s Politico’s vote-count page. They did a crappy job with Iowa. Hopefully they’ve worked out the kinks.
Update: Is campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle the first woman overboard on the USS Clinton?
Update: The Politico page up above is showing very, very early results, although I don’t think we get any official tallies until 8 p.m. Expect Obama to be called the winner instantly and a too-close-to-call situation between McCain and Romney when the networks take to the air.
Update: Spare a thought for Rudy, who doesn’t otherwise figure into today’s proceedings. And that word is … crater.
Update: As of 7:35 ET, 4+% of the precincts have reported. Politico has results.
Update: No Hillary hate, no money.
I just got a call from a conservative marketing consultant I know. He is in a panic. “I am in the midst of a major crisis with a lot of people,” he said. “Hillary Clinton is going to die today. Do you know what that means for conservative fundraising all over America?”
Update: The exit polls are out. Good news for Hillary, per Fox News — Hillary’s within five and McCain leads Mitt by five.
Update: McCain staffers are very optimistic.
Update: An insider tells Geraghty that Hillary’s lead is somewhat misrepresentative and should correct itself over the course of the evening.
Update: Two races down, 48 states left to go, says Silky in his concession speech, hinting that he’s in it for the long haul. Juan Williams speculated earlier that he might stay in it as long as he can just to antagonize Hillary, the “status quo candidate.” That’s exceptionally stupid if true since he’s almost certainly pulling more from Obama than from Clinton. Call it a double victory for the Glacier if she pulls this one out.
Dean Barnett e-mails: “98% of America will get the opportunity to reject John Edwards! My turn will come on 1/29 – can’t wait!”
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LMAO. Huck comes in 3rd. In a state that NO ONE thought he would even be a blip!
Man, you guys need to read his record. Don’t rely on the “conservative” press. They are like way worse than the MSM “liberal” press EVER WAS!
Google is your friend! Really!
Or, you can be the new “sheeple”. Take your pick.
huckfan on January 8, 2008 at 9:48 PM
Obama will run strong in SC, but if he loses tonight after so much hype, it’s got to be an incredible setback to his chances.
LagunaDave on January 8, 2008 at 9:48 PM
Alright….at 10:00 I’m turning off Fox and watch SVU. Join me and escape the misery of a McCain/Hillary win.
malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 9:49 PM
Now why would Soros do a thing like that?
petefrt on January 8, 2008 at 9:50 PM
50% of precincts in now
LagunaDave on January 8, 2008 at 9:50 PM
Anyone know where I can find a breakdown of which state primaries are winner-take-all?
Spolitics on January 8, 2008 at 9:52 PM
Much like a neutered dog, some folks just don’t get it.
NemoParticularis on January 8, 2008 at 9:52 PM
An honest real question…..no joking,
Do the Fredheads really honestly expect Fred to make a comeback, and how exactly does it happen? Im being serious folks. I wanna know how the Fredheads think it’s going to pan out in their favor.(im not trying to be a smart@ass)
The Hayekian on January 8, 2008 at 9:53 PM
Great idea! I just clicked over. The folks on FOX were talking about a frontrunner for the Dims and Juan Williams said it had to be Hillary after they were all crowning Obama last week.
SimplyKimberly on January 8, 2008 at 9:54 PM
oops, that link doesnt mean anything…
The Hayekian on January 8, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Politico:
http://www.politico.com/nhprimaries/nhmap-popup.html
Rep 50.49% reporting
Rudy 8.68%
Huck 11.25%
Hunter .52%
McCain 37.01%
Paul 7.66%
Romney 31.59%
Fred 1.19%
Dems 52.49% reporting
Clinton 39.09%
Edwards 16.73%
Obama 36.55%
bnelson44 on January 8, 2008 at 9:54 PM
Good point! Thanks for keeping me upbeat as I watch my party fall to a shamnesty candidate.
LOL……how long has that one been in the holster?
malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 9:55 PM
Obama is not African-American! This is ridiculous! Juan Williams is a moron.
fourstringfuror on January 8, 2008 at 9:56 PM
The close count between Hillary and
Obama will probably go through the
night.With the Clinton’s accusing the
media of ganging up on them they dare
not call it, untill 100% of the vote
is in!
canopfor on January 8, 2008 at 9:57 PM
Man, Rudy is slamming those jihad ads down the Fox viewers throats..
malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 9:58 PM
dang..you scroll over the counties on Politico..it seems Osama wont them all except a few on the east side..but the east side has some heavy hitters.
malkinmania on January 8, 2008 at 10:01 PM
What is he then? His father was from Africa and he is an American. He closer to African American than those who claim to be African American.
Sue on January 8, 2008 at 10:01 PM
I suppose if you want to be technical–Obama is biracial. It doesn’t matter though, a liberal is a liberal.
malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 10:02 PM
I suppose one might have asked a similar question regarding George Washington in late December, 1776. He was in pretty much the same seemingly hopeless position Fred is in now.
I don’t speak with a British accent. Do you?
NemoParticularis on January 8, 2008 at 10:04 PM
The whole idea of a McCain win in NH strikes me as a little overblown (wishful thinking, perhaps). According to CNN, McCain has 4 NH delegates, Romney has 3. Clinton and Obama are tied at 2.
According to CNN, here’s the current delegate count:
Romney 23
Huckabee 17
McCain 7
Thompson 6
Spolitics on January 8, 2008 at 10:04 PM
MB4 you never cease to entertain. LOL.
Griz on January 8, 2008 at 10:05 PM
Yes thanks to my campaign advice and muchos de dolares my little old pet dog Juan is on his way to victory. Once he becomes your el Presidente he will of course turn over control of what will be your former county to me and just serve as my figurehead per our agreement.
Once we get our
amnestybanana – Juan begged me not to call it amnesty, we will all come to your country. We will all have at least 10 kids and in a generation we will overwhelm and deport most of you Gringos! Some of you, if you learn Spanish real well, we might let you stay to pick our lettuce or mow our lawns or take care of OUR children in what used to be your houses.Those who don’t learn Spanish will be deported to Alaska. That is until Al Gore’s global warming heats things up and we want Alaska too, then we will deport you all to New Orleans. It will probably all be under water by then anyway. I hope you Gringos can swim, he, he, he. My bad!!!
So give it up and LEARN SPANISH! You should probably all buy Mexican flags too and fly them in your front yard and on your pickup trucks. If you already have an American flag there it is alright if you keep it, as long as you fly it upside down and below our great Mexican flag.
Now repeat after me – I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of Mucho Grande Mexico, and to the Republic for which it use to stand, one nation under
meJuan – he begged me to pretend that he will be in charge, with everything for us, and nothing for you.And remember Gringos,
APRENDER EL ESPANOL!!!
VinyFoxy on January 8, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Interesting observation Spolitics…it’s like Romney will be the nominee via the backdoor.
RJS2 on January 8, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Hear, hear! Only liberals are obsessed with race and identity politics. For true conservatives, the measure of a man’s worth is in the substance of what he believes.
NemoParticularis on January 8, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Muchly good humor tonight. LOL
Griz on January 8, 2008 at 10:07 PM
Sigh. Yes one could ask that question, but why would they? It has no relevance.
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Puhleeeeeez. Have a drink. Have two drinks. Get over yourself and go to bed. The world will still be here when you wake up, both tomorrow and the day after Election Day. Perhaps then you will have developed some testicular fortitude.
NemoParticularis on January 8, 2008 at 10:11 PM
Yeah, that’s what I was wondering. Depending on each states rules, it’s possible he could come in second in every primary and still win the nomination.
Spolitics on January 8, 2008 at 10:11 PM
Sigh…
As Leslie Nielsen said, “irony can be pretty ironic.”
wccawa on January 8, 2008 at 10:14 PM
It looks like Romney will be able to EXTEND his delegate lead with New Hampshire…
malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 10:14 PM
Good point. Good point indeed. Mitt it is then.
Pretty dam funny… I’m watching MSNBC for the entertainment value. The azzclowns are making excuses for Barry like there is no tomorrow. Hey, there is no tomorrow if your a liberal democrat.
News flash;;; Press dead wrong. Pollsters dead wrong… AGAIN. Hillary wins easily. The KOS freaky deakies are blaming Chris Mathews for this upset. Too funny. A love affair with Hillary is all it took. LOL
Griz on January 8, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Oh, the irony of your username, Spirit of 1776! It has every relevance. Study your history, man. Learn its lessons. And chin up, for Heaven’s sake!
Good God, what a gaggle of Quivering Queenies you all are.
NemoParticularis on January 8, 2008 at 10:16 PM
What’s even funnier the liberal media won’t call this fairy liberal race til 4AM. They don’t want to embarrass their savior.
Griz on January 8, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Everybody seems to be militant in support for their guy. Can’t we just all agree that Mitt and Fred are the only conservatives in this race?
malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 10:17 PM
The Emperor cackled and rubbed his hands in glee as he glared in triumph at Luke Skywalker. “It is as I have foreseen it!”
NemoParticularis on January 8, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Spolitics? Have you seen anything more about the delegate count?
RJS2 on January 8, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Give me a friggin’ break. And what’s with the chin up stuff? I’m not complaining.
No, it has no relevance. If you were going to make a comparison that crossed the political/military line, you could at least go with Greene and the Carolinas.
But there isn’t a comparison politically there. And the military comparison because the infrastructure frankly isn’t there. It’s in the hands of popular vote in SC again.
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Edwards’ mop is looking shiny than normal tonight………..
I’m lovin’ the John Mellencamp/Cougar.
malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Can you imagine there are almost 30,000 New Hampshires that believe John Edwards should be our next leader of the free world. How sad. All hope is lost. [sarc]
Griz on January 8, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Well if he said so, it’s true! That’s a funny dude.
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Ta
Ta
Silky !
Chimp 6 on January 8, 2008 at 10:21 PM
God, Edwards is channeling dead kids again. The man has no shame.
LagunaDave on January 8, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Romney will hold the delegate count, the question is by how much. Going into the Granite State: Mitt-29, Huck-20, McCain-9, Fred-6, RuPaul-2, Rudy-1, Hunter-1.
malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 10:23 PM
I do believe the Rainbow Coalition be standing behind fairy boy tonight as he tries his damdest to capitalize on little girls and their health problems. Because America is such a horrible horrible place… to be continued at the next channeling of Felicia.
Griz on January 8, 2008 at 10:25 PM
All of us?
davidk on January 8, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Why can’t he be just American? Why must race always been an issue on the left? Will they never let it go? It’s pathetic. Martin Luther King, Jr. would be ashamed.
fourstringfuror on January 8, 2008 at 10:26 PM
FRED!
FRED!
FRED!
Fred!
Fred
fred
fred????
FRED!
hillbillyjim on January 8, 2008 at 10:27 PM
You were *sighing* I was about to reach for the smelling salts lest you collapse from the vay-puhs.
The future of the Republic hinged on what Washington could or could not achieve that fateful night. His army was about to walk away. France was about ready to write us off. The Battle of Trenton was every bit a pivot point in the history of the world as the Battle of Tours was in 732.
NemoParticularis on January 8, 2008 at 10:27 PM
this may have been the first time i’ve seen the term “Quivering Queenies” used in a discussion on politics.
malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 10:28 PM
this may have been the first time i’ve seen the term “Quivering Queenies” used ANYWHERE
in a discussion on politics.malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Martin Luther King, Jr. would be ashamed.
fourstringfuror on January 8, 2008 at 10:26 PM
Griz on January 8, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Freds hoping for a strong turn out in the National Park.
malkinmania on January 8, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Dear Lord. You make a good point, Davidk. The Captain sheepishly apologizes for his rash generalization.
MOST OF YOU.
NemoParticularis on January 8, 2008 at 10:30 PM
do we not have more class than “quivering queenies”.
btw, NBC News calls it for Hillary.
malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 10:32 PM
AP calls it for Hill.
malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Your grandfather kept you from having to learn German or Japanese or be a lamp shade. But YOU ARE NOT the man that he was, not even close.
In fact, usted gringo duda los testículos de un pequeno raton!!!
VinyFoxy on January 8, 2008 at 10:33 PM
As far as I’m concerned, he can and is. But he is closer to African American than say Juan Williams is. At least closer in time.
Sue on January 8, 2008 at 10:33 PM
And if the whiny, sighing, ‘oh-woe-are-we’ crap continues to pop up in these parts, it won’t be the last.
NemoParticularis on January 8, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Associated Press calls it for Hillary.
LagunaDave on January 8, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Oh, I get it. That’s actually kind of amusing. The sigh was for the tendency of people here to make sweeping comparisons to whatever they want with regard to Fred Thompson.
So…the fate of the Republic depends on whether Fred can what? Place first? Wow. You’re right. It is the battle of Tours all over again!
Look Fred doesn’t have the prestige or the capability to turn it around like your hyperbolic comparison. He doesn’t have the gravitas. He doesn’t have the organizational structure. And he doesn’t have the groundswell of support. And he doesn’t have the money.
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 10:34 PM
The AP is calling Clinton the winner
flyboy777 on January 8, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Beat ya to it.
malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 10:35 PM
CNN’s guys are watching to see what happens in the places around Portsmouth before they call it for Hill.
malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 10:36 PM
I’ve tried 3 times to post a link, but it’s not going through. You can find an up-to-date delegate count on CNN’s website. I believe there are still 3 more NH delegates at stake.
Spolitics on January 8, 2008 at 10:37 PM
On a unrelated note….
check this out…
http://folding.stanford.edu/
I didn’t know you could cure disease by running a computer program!
malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Spolitics, according to ABC McCain gained 6 and Romney 3. What facinates me are the ones that have the lesser delegate count, McCain and Fred. Say that the margins stay the same after SC. Who throws in with who? I can’t see McCain giving any traction to Romney, so do his delegates go to Huckabee, to help him draw closer…Fred! is the wildcard.
RJS2 on January 8, 2008 at 10:38 PM
So. The Messiah is toast.
What next?
WHAT SAY YOU!!!!
/O’Reilly off
wccawa on January 8, 2008 at 10:38 PM
davidk on January 8, 2008 at 10:39 PM
But you don’t want to know where Yahoo! will send you.
davidk on January 8, 2008 at 10:40 PM
I think we are nose and nose now. I’m kind of glad though. The longer it goes over on the left the better it is for the right.
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 10:41 PM
That’s correct. Those are more up-to-date figures. There are still 3 more delegates at stake for the Republicans.
Spolitics on January 8, 2008 at 10:41 PM
AP and NBC calls it for Clinton. Guiliani did better than expected, 8.56% now, better than Paul. Fred is at 1.18% presently.
Christoph on January 8, 2008 at 10:42 PM
So will Hillary cry at every rally now?
LagunaDave on January 8, 2008 at 10:43 PM
LOL…………..http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=7w8zzue&s=1
malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Perhaps I should not have recommended that second drink.
Hmmm. What you just said translates as: “You are a Gringo doubting the small testicles of a rat!”
I have no doubt that a rat has small testicles. However, I have considerable doubt regarding the size of yours.
I can only defer to the gracious diplomacy of King Juan Carlos of Spain when he turned to Hugo Chavez and said, “Porque no te callas!”
NemoParticularis on January 8, 2008 at 10:45 PM
On the other side of the ledger, Clinton and Obama are almost even with Clinton having 1 more delegate than Obama. That said, Edwards has 14. He’s the spoiler and being the lawyer he is will negotiate for the most prestigous position, just like he did with Kerry. Very interesting.
RJS2 on January 8, 2008 at 10:45 PM
66% of the vote in and McCain leads Romney by about 8,000 votes – less than the total population of the gated community I live in in Southern California.
Bleh.
peski on January 8, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Oh! Woe is me.
Pffft.
hillbillyjim on January 8, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Something’s screwy. I’m waiting still for a persuasive explanation of results versus polls and the sense of everyone involved there.
petefrt on January 8, 2008 at 10:46 PM
How much is Hillary paying Breck Girl to keep sucking votes from Obama?
malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Why should it? “Quivering Queenies” is an exclusive Nemo Neologism and you heard it here first at Hot Air.com.
NemoParticularis on January 8, 2008 at 10:48 PM
MSM got it wrong?
Naah.
davidk on January 8, 2008 at 10:49 PM
That’s the consolation, isn’t it.
petefrt on January 8, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Oh, woe is us!
davidk on January 8, 2008 at 10:50 PM
Yeah. But I won’t be sad when Hillary does have to throw in the towel. And I wouldn’t have minded if she ended up crying in her pillow tonight:)
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Obama concedes. Graciously.
Christoph on January 8, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Page scrolling ability! Awesome addition to the comments, thanks!
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Chin up, Hillbilly. And stop ‘pfffting’ – you’re getting drool all over your chin. That’s why you need to keep it up.
(Do I have to explain EVERYTHING?)
NemoParticularis on January 8, 2008 at 10:53 PM
I like how they placed the only two people over the age of 24 right behind Obama during his speech.
TexasBella on January 8, 2008 at 10:53 PM
YEAH! When did that get there?!
malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 10:54 PM
There will be tears enough for Hillary to cry on the eve of the presidential election this November. And I predict she’ll be crying them before 10 PM EST.
NemoParticularis on January 8, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Sink me!
Think ye, sir,
How those feathered boys love to flaunt their tails!
Stallions!
Zounds, sir!
Hounds sir! Stags!
Of the goosie and the gander, sir
Which gender is the grander, sir
To render total candor, sir, the spendour is the male’s!
Now, drape your cape
And puff your cuff
Embroider those lapels!
Be the king of the beasts in pastels!
La, but someone has to strike a pose
And bear the weight of well-tailored clothes
And that is why the Lord created men
Tuco on January 8, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Just now. Me likey! They making room for the newbies, that’s great!
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Hadn’t thought of that. A deal sub-rosa? Interesting.
petefrt on January 8, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Obama promises to surrender in Iraq.
LagunaDave on January 8, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Yeah, just like Waterloo.
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 10:56 PM
I don’t think either of them swing that way….
malan89 on January 8, 2008 at 10:57 PM
And throwing it in, without warning, on the night of the NH primary?
Cajones!
wccawa on January 8, 2008 at 10:58 PM
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