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New Hampshire: The Longest Day Update: Dude, where’s Obama’s foreign policy?

posted at 8:39 am on January 8, 2008 by Bryan
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Unlike the Iowa caucuses, New Hampshire’s primary voting started at midnight. Dicksville Notch, NH is where it all starts and we already have the results from that vote: McCain took the GOP side and Obama took the Dem side. But Dicksville Notch’s 17 voters, total, don’t tell us all that much about how the rest of the state will vote.

We’ll have results from elsewhere around the state as the come in today. For now, here’s Mike Huckabee’s appearance on Letterman last night. Guess what kind of candidate he’s running as. If you guessed “change,” give yourself a pat on the back.

Update: The “Iron my shirt” idiots weren’t Clinton plants, after all. They were shock jock morons.

Update: We have some of the best tipsters. Look what one of them didn’t find on Obama’s campaign site. Start on this page and scroll down to click on the link that reads “Read the plan.” We’d all love to see the plan…

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Neither Huck nor McCain are true conservatives. They are barely Republicans. McCain wanted Shamnesty, and Huck raises taxes! Help us Romney, you’re our only hope! ;)

ivybelle1 on January 8, 2008 at 8:44 AM

Nice day today for this time of year. 45 and sunny around Boston. Turn out should be good.

Lot’s of NH voters calling into WRKO – If people are curious to hear what NHerites are thinking as the head to the polls, you can listen to the livestream at wrko.com

TheBigOldDog on January 8, 2008 at 8:46 AM

I for one am more than tired of the “change” mantra. I DON’T WANT CHANGE!!! I don’t want a new direction. I don’t want to “regain” the world’s goodwill. Warm feelings from criminals, thugs, and murderers are unimportant to me.

I WANT VICTORY!

Are our fellow citizens really wanting to change? So, what they are saying is: We’re tired of the war on terror. Let’s stop fighting it. We’re tired of the good economy. Let’s go into a recession. We’re tired of making this country better. Let’s give up and go only for ourselves. We’re tired of enforcing our laws. Let’s not enforce them. We’re tired of being free. Let’s become slaves to the government.

This is exactly what you’ll get if you vote for an agent for change. I’m not a Yale or Havad graduate, just a plain old Orangeman who had to work to go to college. Am I lazy? Sure, but I know I only want to improve my life, not make it worse just because I want “change.” I’m not willing to let my so-called betters determine that I have no need for things, that I must give up stuff for the greater good, that I cannot own guns, that I cannot spend my money as I see fit on a candidate, that I cannot eat whatever I will, that I cannot refuse to honor false religions, that I cannot claim be trusted to raise my own child, that I cannot be outside of government mandated health care – paid for at the point of a gun. No, not one of these current candidates is of any use to me at all, save Fred.

Yet, that is what our fellow citizens want, so we’re told. I wonder what all these longer sport seasons, award shows, reality programs, dancing shows and other distractions are for? Instead of panem et circenses, give ‘em beer, entertainment, and porn.

We are being directed away from politics toward a world of self-gratification only. It seems that our fellow Americans are willingly trading away their birthright for a mess of pottage. A cold, thin gruel giving no nourishment at all. But I guess that’s what they serve in the gulag….

ScottG on January 8, 2008 at 8:47 AM

Cool. Stupid people trick night, huh?

wccawa on January 8, 2008 at 8:50 AM

Lot’s of NH voters calling into WRKO – If people are curious to hear what NHerites are thinking as the head to the polls, you can listen to the livestream at wrko.com

TheBigOldDog on January 8, 2008 at 8:46 AM

Unfortunately, I can’t at work. However, I’m sure many here would appreciate reports of the call-ins.

Thanks.

Darksean on January 8, 2008 at 8:51 AM

Bravo, “ScottG” . . . you’re right on.

rplat on January 8, 2008 at 8:52 AM

I may be wrong, but doesn’t the term “Dicksville Notch” sound like a euphemism for a sex change operation?

Now THAT would really provide the country a real “change” in our candidates – something that the MSM says that we voters crave..

TexasJew on January 8, 2008 at 8:53 AM

He’s such an affable candidate. If only he had Fred’s or Hunter’s positions on issues…

MadisonConservative on January 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM

He’s such an affable candidate. If only he had Fred’s or Hunter’s positions on issues…

MadisonConservative on January 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM

He’s a scary one, all right.

PS: mornin’, madison!

wccawa on January 8, 2008 at 8:56 AM

I didn’t think there were so many idiots in this world until I saw Mike Huckabee doing well in the polls. Who the hell is voting for this loser? Is it “Christian evangelicals” as Rush says? If so…wow we got problems.

CABE on January 8, 2008 at 8:59 AM

Neither Huck nor McCain are true conservatives. They are barely Republicans. McCain wanted Shamnesty, and Huck raises taxes! Help us Romney, you’re our only hope! ;)

ivybelle1 on January 8, 2008 at 8:44 AM

Neither Romney nor Giuliani are true conservatives. They are barely Republicans. Giuliani is Pro-choice/Anti-2nd Amendment, and Mitt raises fees? Help us Fred, you’re our only hope, if you feel like it. :(

Complete7 on January 8, 2008 at 9:00 AM

New Hampshire, I see your Dicksville Notch and raise you Pennsylvania’s Deer Lick and Black Lick. I know the rest of you can up the stakes as well.

So, what they are saying is: We’re tired of the war on terror. Let’s stop fighting it. We’re tired of the good economy. Let’s go into a recession.

Well said. How many Americans’ total war sacrifice consists of having to hear about the war? You know, I’m tired of hearing about it, so let’s withdraw the troops. Then we’d have change.

P.S. Fork Letterman. I’m no Bill O’Reilly fanboy, but Letterman’s treatment of BOR said everything I need to know about Dave’s integrity.

saint kansas on January 8, 2008 at 9:01 AM

Help us Obi Wan Fred, you are our only hope…. ;p

doriangrey on January 8, 2008 at 9:03 AM

I have spoken with Huck supporters. It is a cult of personality. When you bring up Hucks track record they fade to black faster than Ozzy during an IQ exam. They do not care. ISSUES is a non with them. It is all style and form over substance.

RobertInAustin on January 8, 2008 at 9:04 AM

ScottG on January 8, 2008 at 8:47 AM

The whole nail and head thing.

boomer on January 8, 2008 at 9:05 AM

P.S. Fork Letterman. I’m no Bill O’Reilly fanboy, but Letterman’s treatment of BOR said everything I need to know about Dave’s integrity.

saint kansas on January 8, 2008 at 9:01 AM

Dave has integrity? meh…who knew…

doriangrey on January 8, 2008 at 9:05 AM

Not as long of day as this guy could have.
Presidents who are not in favor with the religious leaders have a special way of being “voted” out of office.

right2bright on January 8, 2008 at 9:07 AM

I have spoken with Huck supporters. It is a cult of personality. When you bring up Hucks track record they fade to black faster than Ozzy during an IQ exam. They do not care. ISSUES is a non with them. It is all style and form over substance.

RobertInAustin on January 8, 2008 at 9:04 AM

What would Jesus do? I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t vote for Huck, if anything he would ask him, Mike? Why has thou forsaken me?

doriangrey on January 8, 2008 at 9:07 AM

I have spoken with Huck supporters. It is a cult of personality. When you bring up Hucks track record they fade to black faster than Ozzy during an IQ exam. They do not care. ISSUES is a non with them. It is all style and form over substance.

RobertInAustin on January 8, 2008 at 9:04 AM

Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,”and, “A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud.” 2 Peter 2:22

wccawa on January 8, 2008 at 9:11 AM

What would Jesus do? I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t vote for Huck, if anything he would ask him, Mike? Why has thou forsaken me?

Not all of them are Christian, but I get your point.

Mike is Pro-life, but he wants to raise taxes so a family with 3 kids already might actually think about aborting they new suprise due to the idea that they may not be able to afford the little bundle of joy. Yeah Mike, pro-family, and do everything you can to ensure they cannot afford to live.

RobertInAustin on January 8, 2008 at 9:11 AM

Huck’s the kind of guy I’d love to hang out with at a BBQ. He is funny and likable.

Just so long as that BBQ wasn’t at the White House, with him hosting.

nailinmyeye on January 8, 2008 at 9:14 AM

Letterman: Does a 10-minute scripted monologue each night joking about current events, drives home at 125 mph and falls asleep on a pile of money.

Huckabee: Does several monologues on the campaign trail joking about current events. Wakes up the next morning and frantically speed-dials Chuck Norris: “Chuck, where the hell is this Pakistan place?”

saint kansas on January 8, 2008 at 9:16 AM

New Hampshire, I see your Dicksville Notch and raise you Pennsylvania’s Deer Lick and Black Lick. I know the rest of you can up the stakes as well.

One of my favorites is Alberta’s “Head-Smashed-In-Buffalo-Jump.”

nailinmyeye on January 8, 2008 at 9:18 AM

Huckabee is not my candidate, no matter how many folksy quips come out of his mouth. He lost my vote with his record as Gov.on issues of taxes and immigration not religion.

snowcrash on January 8, 2008 at 9:18 AM

saint kansas on January 8, 2008 at 9:01 AM

New Hampshire, I see your Dicksville Notch and raise you Pennsylvania’s Deer Lick and Black Lick. I know the rest of you can up the stakes as well.

lol, I’ll up the stakes just a bit, we have a town here in Missouri called Knob Lick.. hehe, will that work?

stlpatriot on January 8, 2008 at 9:19 AM

Next debate (doesn’t matter if it’s the Dems or Repubs), I’m playing the “change” drinking game. Every time that vacuous word comes out of their traps, I’m taking a good hard shot of Jack and Coke. I’ll undoubtedly end up so plastered that all the platitudes may actually sound… appealing.

Jockolantern on January 8, 2008 at 9:19 AM

interesting plan Obama has, he better change that, lol

stlpatriot on January 8, 2008 at 9:21 AM

Jackolantern, be careful you’ll probably die of acute alcohol poisoning first!

snowcrash on January 8, 2008 at 9:22 AM

saint kansas on January 8, 2008 at 9:01 AM

Just off the major interstate here is a small town called Climax. It’s frustrating because every day, so many people get so close to Climax, but only a tiny percentage ever get there.

James on January 8, 2008 at 9:28 AM

Dude, where’s Obama’s foreign policy?

Same place the Huckster’s is. But here’s a summary of both:
1) If you don’t know anything about it, just pretend it doesn’t exist.
2) If forced to make an answer, make jokes and mouth empty feel-good platitudes.
3) Say “Change” a lot.

ReubenJCogburn on January 8, 2008 at 9:31 AM

Oh Bryan, Obama is conducting foreign policy with Kenya..so wait for his website to update :)

Pam on January 8, 2008 at 9:32 AM

How about Yeehaw Junction, FL, Larry Bird’s own French Lick Indiana, or Sac City Iowa? Spend too long in Gaysport, OH and you might wind up in Bowlegs, OK, not that there’s anything wrong with that. Of course if Gaysport is the only option, I’d just prefer to stay in Blue Ball, PA. What was the point of this thread again?

A question for you Keystone staters: Is Intercourse PA south of Jugtown?

trubble on January 8, 2008 at 9:37 AM

New Hampshire, I see your Dicksville Notch and raise you Pennsylvania’s Deer Lick and Black Lick. I know the rest of you can up the stakes as well.

saint kansas on January 8, 2008 at 9:01 AM

Well, even though I don’t think anyone can beat stlpatriot’s “Knob Lick”, I’ll toss out one from north of Houston: “Cut-and-Shoot” with dashes and all.

Redhead Infidel on January 8, 2008 at 9:38 AM

Hmmm…my comment ended up in moderation. Did anyone else’s end up in moderation when they named some of these funny little towns? I think the filter’s mind is in the gutter.

Redhead Infidel on January 8, 2008 at 9:42 AM

Hey let’s be fair now, Obama has a plan.

It’s called “Platitudes R Us”, and it’s working like a well-oiled engine.

Can I get an Amen?

ScottG on January 8, 2008 at 8:47 AM

Well said.

Let’s go Orange!

fogw on January 8, 2008 at 9:46 AM

Yodabama sez.

“No plan only do!”

ronsfi on January 8, 2008 at 9:48 AM

A question for you Keystone staters: Is Intercourse PA south of Jugtown?

trubble on January 8, 2008 at 9:37 AM

It’s down the road from Blue Ball and just before Paradise.

No foolin’.

The Amish do have a way with words.

fogw on January 8, 2008 at 9:49 AM

I followed the link to Obamarama’s page and found this:

Obama will secure all loose nuclear materials in the world within four years.

Wow… I bet the Russians and Iranians and North Koreans will just open their doors so he can waltz in and make sure that their nukes are “secure.” He IS amazing!! And to think I doubted him…
/sarc

Then there was this:

Engaging the American People on Foreign Policy:…

You know, maybe it’s just me, but I know a lot of people who couldn’t find Iraq on a map — and don’t really care to try. Nor do they know the names — and certainly not the positions — of world leaders. I don’t really want them engaged in anything, since they are so freakin’ clueless!

Well, even though I don’t think anyone can beat stlpatriot’s “Knob Lick”…
Redhead Infidel on January 8, 2008 at 9:38 AM

I bet I can! Just up the road is a town called Big Bone Lick, KY. Makes me giggle every time…

Lan Astaslem on January 8, 2008 at 9:55 AM

A question for you Keystone staters: Is Intercourse PA south of Jugtown?

trubble on January 8, 2008 at 9:37 AM

It’s down the road from Blue Ball and just before Paradise.

No foolin’.

The Amish do have a way with words.

fogw on January 8, 2008 at 9:49 AM

Not far from Loving either as far as I recall.

ronsfi on January 8, 2008 at 10:01 AM

I grew up in the evangelical world that has given Huckabee most of the votes he’s gotten so far. Conformity is expected of every member. Questions that threaten this comformity are not acceptable. Intelligence and knowledge are not prized and might even be seen as threatening. They might share some values with conservatives but conformity is more important than any value. So they are really more like Democrats because a Democrat, in spite of the all their talk about values, will sell out any value to conform. Both Democrats and Evangelicals have an ungodly fear of not being in the right crowd. They both deeply fear that someone might suspect they don’t have the proper allegiance. Most all Democrats would rather have millions of people die from AIDS than take the risk of someone thinking they didn’t have the proper attitude about gays. And, I think, we can expect this primary process to be greatly influenced by evangelicals nationwide who will vote for Huck without any thought of any of the consequences. They will only be worried about being in the right crowd.

snaggletoothie on January 8, 2008 at 10:01 AM

Hill Shill Dave just had to get in his plug didn’t he.?.. that was really shameless and so transparanet…

max1 on January 8, 2008 at 10:20 AM

ivybelle1 on January 8, 2008 at 8:44 AM
Help us Romney, you’re our only hope! ;)

Complete7 on January 8, 2008 at 9:00 AM
Help us Fred, you’re our only hope, if you feel like it. :(

doriangrey on January 8, 2008 at 9:03 AM
Help us Obi Wan Fred, you are our only hope…. ;p

I’ve got a bad feeling about this…

juanito on January 8, 2008 at 10:22 AM

the Campaign Spot has the transcript of the Paultard on Leno, the one he seeks advice from on Foreign Policy: Dennis Kucinich

http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OGRhNjI3YWYyNmI0OGI4MjgxZGU4Yzg1MmZkOTcyODc=

also, I find it interesting a “Constitutionalist” is telling people that we could afford $1 Trillion for healthcare if not for the War. When the Constitution clearly says spending is okay for War to provide for the Common Defense. But doesn’t mention a thing about National Healthcare.

jp on January 8, 2008 at 10:25 AM

Jackolantern, be careful you’ll probably die of acute alcohol poisoning first!

If it ends up being Huckabee v Obama… death may seem sweeter for the moment. ;)

Jockolantern on January 8, 2008 at 10:32 AM

I find it amusing to be reading news articles about early election results from New Hampshire when only 17 votes have been counted.

“NEWS FLASH! Hillary in dead last after 0.0002% of the votes have been tallied! Does this spell the end of her campaign? Will she run as a 3rd party candidate? More at the top of the hour.”

The media sure has pushed this election to the point of being ridiculous. Let me know when there is actually something to report!

Luckedout on January 8, 2008 at 10:33 AM

The truth ads about Huck’s lies will be in full bloom in SC. Fred, Mitt, and Fred will do comparison ads that will expose him for what he is. The problem is that it doesn’t much seem to matter to evangelicals that have an intolerant view of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

Like someone said earlier, and quite rightly so, the evangelicals eyes glaze over whenever they are confronted with the facts about Huck.

csdeven on January 8, 2008 at 10:37 AM

Huck came down as a pretty genuine and likable guy. But if you see through his charm you may notice he didn’t talk specifics.

It’s nice to talk about “vertical leadership” and wanting to stop the polarization and paralysis of washington. But what are your plans?

AlexB on January 8, 2008 at 10:56 AM

There’s a Cow lick on top of my head.

Does that count?

Mcguyver on January 8, 2008 at 11:07 AM

Bryan, dude, it’s Dixville. I’d expect that intentional misspelling from Allah, but not you!

Brat on January 8, 2008 at 11:14 AM

PS: mornin’, madison!

wccawa on January 8, 2008 at 8:56 AM

Mornin’, sugar. Almost afternoon, actually. Sorry. I’m the lazy conservative.

MadisonConservative on January 8, 2008 at 12:35 PM

“People get wrapped up in conservative, liberal…” WHAT THE …???? Another knock out for Iron (head) Mike.

labrat on January 8, 2008 at 12:50 PM

Huckabee is a crowd pleasing suck-up who will joke w/ us and sweet talk us and then go and do whatever the heck he feels like doing. And on top of it, he knows how slick he is. I can’t stand conceit like his!

Eclectic on January 8, 2008 at 1:19 PM

New Hampshire, I see your Dicksville Notch and raise you Pennsylvania’s Deer Lick and Black Lick. I know the rest of you can up the stakes as well.

Toad Suck Ferry, Arkansas?

Bucksnort, Tennessee?

DrSteve on January 8, 2008 at 1:38 PM

He broke his finger playing little league baseball? The way he spins his tales he was probably picking his nose in the stands and got hit in the face with a foul ball.

Up, down, horizontal, vertical…This guy couldn’t find a straight answer with a map and a torch.

PowWow on January 8, 2008 at 2:07 PM

He’s the closest thing we have to an Obama, and it’s not very close, but for his ideological shortcomings, he’s just a darn genuine, nice guy.

mattyj86 on January 8, 2008 at 2:29 PM

Toad Suck Ferry, Arkansas?

Bucksnort, Tennessee?

DrSteve on January 8, 2008 at 1:38 PM

Hixville, Mass. (Really, I’m not joking.)

BKennedy on January 8, 2008 at 3:00 PM

Wake up people! Hussein Obama is the most dangerous candidate for America ever! You thought the hildebeast was bad.. Hussein Obama is 10x worse and it is well known that Hitlery is bought by chinese interests!!

The fact is Huckabee is the only one who can beat Hussein O!
For those opposed to Huckabee now, here are a couple of facts about him that you might not know…there are many many Christians who are uninformed and vote dem..Huckabee will get them due to constant media attacks on Christianity during the race for the general election and due to Hussein O’s speeches declaring that America is no longer a Christian nation and that we are a muslim nation now and due to his other speeches such as “Christianity got hijacked”. For all the rest look at the contrasts between the two… Obama: raise taxes drastically! Huck: signed no tax raise pledge and proposes getting rid of the socialist income tax and with it 65% of lobbyists and many freedom impeding gov’t programs such as IRS. Obama: surrender immediately to his muslim friends. Huck: win the GWOT,never surrender and remain the most powerful military in the world. Obama: socialist medicine Huckabee: free market health care solutions. Obama: respect the UN move towards one world gov’t. Huckabee: do not surrender America’s sovereignty on any conditions. Obama: open up the borders give amnesty to illegal aliens allow them to bring in all non english speaking family members to vote dem. Huckabee: Secure border, no amnesty, enact employer verification system. And still some of the folks here say they would vote for Hussein Obama our first muslim president.

HaraldHardrada on January 8, 2008 at 4:03 PM

The only Good News about Harald the Hard Rider is that Bryan or Allah will ban him before the next cock crows.

Jaibones on January 8, 2008 at 4:42 PM

Ok, HaraldHardrada I’ll rebut your bit. Pardon me if I do some paragraph breaks, but I’m not one for the “massive paragraph” style of typing.

First, look at Congress and spending under Clinton. Then look at Bush. The difference here was how the Republican members acted.

Under Clinton, they fought party politics and reined in spending. Under Bush, the supported the party President and ramped up spending.

Note that Democrats will support higher spending under a President for either party.

Both Huckabee and Obama want more spending, we’re agreed. But who can actually get the spending past Congress? Only Huckabee can raise spending at rates that match or exceed the record level 2000-2008 spending increases.

Now, you can believe that Huckabee will somehow get the 16th Amendment repealed and pass the FairTax deal. His first step will be to join Congress so he can actually propose an Amendment to the Constitution I’m guessing.

Then, does he try for the Marriage Amendment first, or FairTax first, or the Human Life Amendment? Seriously, is there anything else about the Constitution he’d like to change? Why not claim he’ll get a complete rewrite while he’s at it?

Second, Huckabee is the only one who can beat Obama? There’s a panic stricken worldview. Huckabee cannot even keep the Republican big tent from splitting down the middle, much less hold the line and pick up votes. He couldn’t beat an unnamed Democrat.

Sorry, I’m going to take Huckabee’s record over his current rhetoric. He raised taxes significantly, he raised spending significantly, he promotes Federal control over numerous issues big and small (Abortion, smoking, diet, exercise, health care) and believes in a Federal “one size fits all” solution to many problems.

He has a history of “listening to his heart” and ignoring reason. Working for support to pardon an unrepentant murderer who killed and raped his girlfriend (in that order) seems questionable judgment.

He apparently can pull in the Social Conservatives, but the Fiscal Conservatives get nothing from him but talk. And any read of his past actions shows that he’s clearly not a friend of Fiscal Conservatism, or Federalism, or public security.

And you’re slander of Obama, calling him a Muslim over and over again isn’t really useful. Trying to engender racism and bigotry to promote support, although common for Huckabee supporters, isn’t really a worthwhile proposition.

But keep trying. Show your racist stripes, whine about people attacking Christianity (which you’ll note, I didn’t mention, but I’m sure you’ll claim I did anyhow) and promote Huck’s rhetoric over his actions.

And if he wins, then America truly deserves him.

gekkobear on January 8, 2008 at 4:47 PM

Jaibones on January 8, 2008 at 4:42 PM

Wow, you think he’ll ban me because I think Huckabee is our best chance? I better not tell anyone that I used to support Rudy Giuliani…doesn’t seem like too many people here like him either. If the thought police state is what you seek, you better head over to the dems they are more suited to you.

gekkobear on January 8, 2008 at 4:47 PM

I didn’t know that islam is a race…thank you for informing me. How about I call him a commie? Is that also a race according to you?

HaraldHardrada on January 8, 2008 at 5:28 PM

Frankly I would vote for any republican who gets the nomination. Anyone of them are a hundred times better than the alternative! This is a very important election.

HaraldHardrada on January 8, 2008 at 5:35 PM

Funny, I thought Letterman would have caught fire.

- The Cat

MirCat on January 8, 2008 at 7:42 PM

DrSteve -

Smackout, MO. Great place.

fourstringfuror on January 8, 2008 at 8:26 PM

Bald Knob, AR is also a personal favorite. No, it has nothing to do with a bald man or his, er, knob.

In local, specifically Ozarks, parlance, a knob is simply a prominent hill, a rocky outcrop, or something like that. “Bald” refers to its lack of vegetation at the top. Ergo, Bald Knob.

fourstringfuror on January 8, 2008 at 8:34 PM

Wow, you think he’ll ban me because I think Huckabee is our best chance?

HaraldHardrada on January 8, 2008 at 5:28 PM

No, I think Allah agrees. I think they’ll ban you because you say crazy shit like this –

HaraldHardrada on January 8, 2008 at 4:03 PM

That’s if they don’t ban me first.

Jaibones on January 8, 2008 at 9:25 PM

As for the substance of your comments, Godwin’s Law predicts that you’ll call Hillary “Hitlery”, but Allah’s Law predicts that you get banned for referring to U.S. political candidates as Hitler, Stalin, or Pol Pot, since it’s really stupid.

I think Obama is a racist, and I base that opinion on the racist belief system of the church where he is a willing and active member, “blackness” being a part of the Christian canon that I somehow missed in my studies in the Bible. But he says he’s a Christian and belongs to an otherwise Christian church, so constantly claiming that he’s a Muslim is kind of stupid, imo. See above.

Jaibones on January 8, 2008 at 9:30 PM

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