New Hampshire: Predictions
posted at 9:04 am on January 8, 2008 by Allahpundit
Might as well start early. Obama’s up nine or more in almost every recent poll; he’s a lock, so keep your eye on Silky to see just how badly he flames out. He’s averaging 18 points in the RCP tally but the new Zogby has him down to 17 and a poll that came out yesterday put him at 15. If Obama peels off a bunch of his supporters and sends him to an especially humiliating third, maybe that gets him to thinking about getting out soon. Although as Kaus drolly notes, it’s not like he has anything else to do with his time.
I want to pick Mitt to surprise St. McCain, if only because I can’t imagine his early two-state strategy totally collapsing given his money advantage, but all the polls but one have him down and Maverick’s an 83% favorite on InTrade. So let’s say McCain wins narrowly, by two or three. Would that be good news or bad news for Fredheads? It would leave Moneybags especially weak in SC, but you’d also have McCain to contend with and so the anti-Huck vote that Fred’s trying to leverage could split three ways. If McCain loses today he may be out by then, leaving a three-way race — with Romney invigorated and ready to spend Fred into oblivion.
As you ponder, here’s a little Two Minutes McCain Hate from Kaus and See-Dub. And here’s Byron York wondering why Mitt still hasn’t settled on an identity after a year of campaigning and tens of millions of dollars spent.
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I will Win.
hinduconservative on January 8, 2008 at 9:09 AM
Mitt has to win, outspending McCain 2-1 (8 million) in a small state has to have an impact. Imagine $8 million in one small state.
What money will buy. Perot did enough damage with his money, expect the same from Mitt.
right2bright on January 8, 2008 at 9:10 AM
I better go give more money to Fred just in case Mitt wins.
Jay on January 8, 2008 at 9:10 AM
Romney
McCain
Rudy
Huckster
Paul
Fred
stlpatriot on January 8, 2008 at 9:11 AM
I think Mitt will win by 2 points. Huck will get 17 percent Rudy 12 Ron Paul 1o
jacobh on January 8, 2008 at 9:11 AM
You mean like in Iowa where he outspent Huckabee by 20 to 1 yet still lost by 9pts.
Complete7 on January 8, 2008 at 9:12 AM
Good morning. Thanks for the migraine so early in the morning. This will go to november at this rate.
ambuldog on January 8, 2008 at 9:15 AM
I predict that if he doesn’t win today (due to his heinous immigration bill), the creature from John Carpenter’s “The Thing” will come out of Wackjob McCain’s exploding head and eat his opponents one by one…
Or – he could just admit that he was advocating Amnesty all along..
Hmmm.. I guess the first scenario is the most likely..
TexasJew on January 8, 2008 at 9:16 AM
It better be Romney.
If it isn’t I’m gonna be pissed.
CABE on January 8, 2008 at 9:18 AM
My guess:
Romney in a squeaker,
McCain less than a point behind.
Huckabee 10 behind.
Fred wakes up for the drive to SC.
Michigan then helps Romney followed by another squeker in SC.
Onager on January 8, 2008 at 9:21 AM
I Want Mitt to win by 2 points. My brain tells me it is not going to be. Hope I’m wrong. I feel so bleak these days.
Nyog_of_the_Bog on January 8, 2008 at 9:21 AM
I want Romney to win but realisitcally..
winners:
McCain
Obama
losers:
the people of New Hampshire.
Pcoop on January 8, 2008 at 9:21 AM
McCain might just pull it off. But that don’t mean much. NH, like Iowa is screwball in who they support and always have been.
After this week is over and we move on to some states that reflect more rational thought, it will be a whole new ballgame.
conservnut on January 8, 2008 at 9:23 AM
ok im going out on a limb, SUPRISE VICTORY FOR CLINTON, ~(people get to vote secretly this time, and their prejudices are kept private)
and Romney too
thus according to me the race will be on its head again this time tomorrow.
zane on January 8, 2008 at 9:25 AM
Uh…up until 1992, no one won the Presidency without first having won the New Hampshire Primary. Since Bill Clinton, it’s anyone’s guess.
ConBlog_NH on January 8, 2008 at 9:27 AM
Mitt
McCain
Huck
Thompson
Rudy
If NH voters watched the last debate Mitt will be helped tremendously.
I do agree that Mitt has erred in his strategy. He should have focused much more on “McCain-Kennedy”. He should have pointed out that for all McCain’s “experience” the end result was overwhelming rejected by the American people.
If Mitt loses it won’t be by much and despite what Scott Rasmussen says, it’s not over. Losing by a couple of points in a state where McCain won before is not ideal, but it’s not the end of the world. Mitt has time to tighten his message before Michigan and pound McCain on his rotten legislative initiatives.
He can also bring out the China ad which will play well in MI.
Buy Danish on January 8, 2008 at 9:29 AM
McCain by 3
Romney
Huck
Paul
Rudy
sweeper on January 8, 2008 at 9:29 AM
My predictions?
McCain
Romney
Huckabee
Thompson
Giuliani
Slublog on January 8, 2008 at 9:29 AM
Onager on January 8, 2008 at 9:21 AM
Fred wakes up for the drive to SC.
He woke up there, primed and ready to go, and has 4 events set up today..
GO FRED!
stlpatriot on January 8, 2008 at 9:31 AM
At spending $8 per person in New Hampshire, and probably more like $25 per voter (they are hoping for 240,000 Republican voters), he better win.
Imagine, spending $25 per voter for a primary, this may be a record.
I don’t think anyone has ever spent even close to the money Mitt is spending to garner votes.
If he doesn’t win, he is just another Perot, or Forbes…a ego driven rich man throwing his money away.
right2bright on January 8, 2008 at 9:33 AM
But the thing is McCain has had a ONE state strategy and has gotten all the endorsements from local newspapers in New Hampshire. That’s why McCain is winnning this state.
It’s going to be:
McCain
Romney
Huckabee
Paul
ruDy
Thompson
And with ruDy coming in behind Paul again (I was tempted to put Paul in 3rd because of the independent vote), the media (Hannity) will still say that ruDy is the guy they want for president. ruDy supporters are more delusional than Fred supporters. Look at his personal history and if ruDy wins the presidency (doubtful even with the nom) it will be the most corrupt and thuggish president ever.
ThackerAgency on January 8, 2008 at 9:33 AM
Why do people insist that not thinking how you think makes someone else either ‘stupid’ or ‘crazy’? It doesn’t move the discussion forward and is not helpful. You are talking about AMERICANS. New Hampshire people are down to earth nice good people. There is nothing crazy nor screwball about them. If the rest of the country were more like the people of New Hampshire, we wouldn’t have half the problems we have. Stop disparaging people you disagree with, please.
ThackerAgency on January 8, 2008 at 9:38 AM
Fred Fred Fred Fred Fred! Dump the huckster, dump the slickster. Be a Fredhead!
Hammerhead on January 8, 2008 at 9:38 AM
C’mon Mitt. He may not be as conservative as many would like him to be, but I’ll vote for him.
swami on January 8, 2008 at 9:38 AM
I know you gentlemen have been through a lot, but when you find the time, I’d rather not spend the rest of this
wintercampaign season TIED TO THIS F—— COUCH!ReubenJCogburn on January 8, 2008 at 9:40 AM
McCain
Romney
Huck
Paul
Rudy
Fred
Ludwig on January 8, 2008 at 9:41 AM
McCain by a good margin. Sorry, Moneybags. The people of NH thank you for your significant contribution to their economy, though.
Fred needs a miracle. Some magic combination of wins/losses by his opponents doesn’t seem likely to change his prospects in SC very significantly. The main thing that might give him a win there is Huckabee imploding between now and then. Could happen. Just takes a Dean moment, right?
I suppose if a different person wins each of the first 4-5 primaries, it does help Fred if he’s one of them. No clear frontrunner means no juggernaut-style momentum for anyone. Spread the love, and they all get to stay in until Super Duper Pooper Tuesday. Maintain the 5-way split through the big day, and maybe we get a brokered convention, which presumably gives Fred his only real chance at the nom since he’s probably the best compromise candidate.
aero on January 8, 2008 at 9:42 AM
Link above to Byron Yorks article shows Romney for what he is, an effective manager. I don’t recall having a to-do list formed by potential voters ever being a bad thing! This writer just doesn’t want Romney. That said……….Go Romney (or Rudy).
snowcrash on January 8, 2008 at 9:44 AM
Class warfare. You must support the Huckster then.
After all, he too thinks that any man who has worked hard to make a fortune shouldn’t be able to spend their money as they please; that the government should take it over.
BKennedy on January 8, 2008 at 9:44 AM
Mitt
Juan McCain
Gomer Pyle
I think B. Hussien Obama better double up on security (serious) !
stenwin77 on January 8, 2008 at 9:46 AM
McCain
Romney
Paul
Huckabee
Giuliani
Thompson
If Thompson comes in anything but last, he could consider that a moral victory of sorts. If someone were to finish behind him, they should just go ahead and drop out.
Obama
Clinton
Edwards
Richardson
RobTN on January 8, 2008 at 9:46 AM
If Sunday’s debate can’t sink McCain in New Hampshire, then nothing will. I think he will eake out a victory because of the support of non-Republicans. I pray most of the independents will vote in the Democratic primary, increasing the margin of Hillary’s humiliation and possibly allowing a narrow victory by Romney.
Even if McCain does magange to win, I would stay in the race and spend big money making and distributing a national ad including soundbites from McCain’s opining on illegal immigration and my response on Sunday’s debate if I were Romney. This would sink McCain and keep Romney very much alive.
ptolemy on January 8, 2008 at 9:47 AM
1. McCain 32%
2. Romney 30%
3. Huckabee 16%
4. Giuliani 10%
5. Paul 7%
6. Thompson 5%
1. Messiah 40%
2. Weepy 35%
3. Silky 20%
4. NOTA 5%
elgeneralisimo on January 8, 2008 at 9:47 AM
Tell me again why we place so much emphasis on Iowa and New Hampshire when they are not even close to representative of the country as a whole?
ColHogan on January 8, 2008 at 9:48 AM
McCain
Romney (very close second)
Huckabee
Paul
Rudy
Fred
Can’t wait for South Carolina.
MadisonConservative on January 8, 2008 at 9:48 AM
Top 3:
McCain
Romney
Huckabeast (Thompson is already in SC I hear…)
I’m hoping that the McCain/Huck 1st place wins somehow turn people off to them as not being able to attract anything resembling a core constituency. Iowa and NH definitely have differences in who they’d vote for, but if Mitt is 2nd consistently and has the money to hang in there I think he’s actually in a pretty good position overall. I recently got back from a trip to NJ though and apparently every cop and fireman in the state have sold their souls to Rudy. I wonder, how much more of the tri-state area is the same? Proxy voters…idgits.
blankminde on January 8, 2008 at 9:53 AM
I don’t know which would be worse. The weepy shrew who loses big time in her firewall state or the comeback shrew who feels vindicated by the NH “rats.”
I do know that in 2008 people are more apt to vote against Obama for his views than his race. Ditto Clinton and gender.
highhopes on January 8, 2008 at 9:54 AM
McCain over Romney. Though I wish it weren’t so. Then:
Huckabee
Ron Paul
Rudy
FDT
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 9:54 AM
Why do I get the feeling the REAL losers are the American people? Oops – sorry – my bad. I forgot this is all about politics and power.
cpodug on January 8, 2008 at 9:57 AM
GOP:
Mitt
Hero
Christ
Left:
Anti-Christ
Crybaby
Ambulance Chaser
faraway on January 8, 2008 at 9:59 AM
McCain
Romney
Huck
Paul
Rudy
Fred
Obama
Edwards
Hillary
ninjapirate on January 8, 2008 at 9:59 AM
Romney (by the skin of his teeth)
McCain (yes it is amnesty)
Huckster
Paul (unfortunately he’s not going away)
Thompson
Guiliani
Luckedout on January 8, 2008 at 9:59 AM
Someone else said this first but it sums it up for me:
“The only way I would vote for McCain is if he started to build that fence with his own two hands.”
snowcrash on January 8, 2008 at 10:01 AM
Oh, don’t start that crap. We’re talking about record-setting spending on a pre-nomination campaign. It’s a relevant point. We’re not saying he can’t or shouldn’t be allowed to. We’re questioning whether it’s wise.
And you call Fredheads dedicated…sheesh.
MadisonConservative on January 8, 2008 at 10:04 AM
And he’s building it from the Southern side!
McCain may play well with the nutjob RINOs of NH but he is unelectable nationally because he DID curtail our Constitutional Rights in the name of CFR. McCain DID offer illegals amnesty and question the patriotism of those of us who are anti-amnesty. McCain would never garner the grassroots support necessary to win victory. In short it would be Bob Dole all over again.
highhopes on January 8, 2008 at 10:07 AM
R: Mitt by 5 over McCain
D: Obama by 20, garnering all the independent votes that McCain got in 2000. I’d really love to see Silky beat the Hildebeest and hand her third place again.
GoHskrs on January 8, 2008 at 10:10 AM
D:
1. Obama 52%
2. Clinton 30%
3. Edwards 13%
4. Richardson 5%
R:
1. McCain 33%
2. Romney 30%
3. Huckabee 14%
4. Paul 10%
5. Guiliani 9%
6. Thompson 4%
AlexG on January 8, 2008 at 10:11 AM
I don’t think it’s any question McCain will take the Republican vote, and Obama will take the Democrat. At this point it’s merely a question of margins.
fourstringfuror on January 8, 2008 at 10:11 AM
I predict Richardson will come in dead last, but will thank the voters in Vermont for getting involved in the democratic process, and then head off for the primary battle in South Dakota.
fogw on January 8, 2008 at 10:11 AM
faraway… thank you for the best laugh of the morning! well done…
D2Boston on January 8, 2008 at 10:13 AM
Messiah gets 5 percent — as a write-in on the Republican side. Mittster stages photo-op getting the word “CHANGE” tattooed on his ass.
commissar on January 8, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Alright folks, factor this into your analysis on a narrow victory for either Mitt or McCain, heading into SC. This is interesting…very interesting. Go here to see what Levin thought of all this.
Weight of Glory on January 8, 2008 at 10:20 AM
What???? So, he should have spent less money?
Moving right along…
That is a great message. Take it to Michigan, Mitt!
Buy Danish on January 8, 2008 at 10:21 AM
Prediction:
Rudy will be the Republican nominee.
Hillary will be the Democrat nominee.
It’s been preordained by our current two-party, big money system.
Texas Rainmaker on January 8, 2008 at 10:21 AM
I can only hope that if McCain wins in New Hampshire, that South Carolina doesn’t forget that the ILLEGAL INVASION is our biggest concern in the South.
Lindsey Graham is on McCain’s staff there and I’m praying that voters don’t forget about Graham meeting with La Raza and calling people against the amnesty bill “racist bigots.”
Tip to Romney, when you do negative campaign ads, use the person actually saying “amnesty.” If there was a press conference back in 2003, there has to be film. It’s always much better to have the words coming out of a liar’s mouth.
moonsbreath on January 8, 2008 at 10:22 AM
They also selected Pat Buchanan in 96 over Dole and I might remeind you that McCain won big there over GWB in 2000.
conservnut on January 8, 2008 at 10:23 AM
Try not to be so condescending. No, we’re questioning whether the amount he’s spending is making a difference. Would 25 bucks per work better than 15 bucks per? We like to say it’s about who spends the most, but obviously Huck is showing that the money theory is not infallible.
MadisonConservative on January 8, 2008 at 10:23 AM
I’m going with the kid’s poll on this. It’s never been wrong in all the years I’ve been watching NH as a Mass resident.
Mitt and Obama. I think it’s a squeaker on (R). Not so much on the other side.
See the kids know who their parents are talking about. Maybe those particular parents aren’t getting polled. That’s the way I always figured it.
PowWow on January 8, 2008 at 10:25 AM
The trend the last few days is McCain is not as far ahead anymore as earlier.
Check out the RCP poll average.
The trend the last few days before elections is what ruled the day in Iowa.
In fact the final vote tally swung even harder in the direction of the trend than the polls had indicated…
…Obama and Huckabee both had more votes tallied than the last poll had shown.
Expect McCain to have said his last good byes to NH:
Good bye McCain.
It’s been real, but life goes on without you.
Don’t mess up your campaign finances, you could end up in prison.
Goodbye and don’t let the illegals hit you on the way out.
Sincerely,
New Hampshire voters
Mcguyver on January 8, 2008 at 10:26 AM
‘Pubbies
Romney – 32%
McCain – 30%
Huckabee – 14%
Fred – 12%
Paul – 9%
Rudy – etc…
.
Donks
Messiah – 44%
Edwards – 24%
Hillary – 22%
Richardson – 6%
Misc – etc…
.
There is going to be a big surge for Obama as the Independents all pull a lever in the Great Hillary Stomp of 2008. The Republican Primary will be restricted to mostly Republicans, which will hurt John McCain and cost him the top spot. Fred will do surprisingly well, but not well enough to top the Huckster.
gridlock2 on January 8, 2008 at 10:26 AM
Buy Danish, thanks for that article. Wait until he comes to where I live in Georgia. We have a law (which we voted on), prohibiting illegals to get funds from the state for college. Huckleberry has been all for providing children of illegals a college eduction. I’m sure he’ll change his tune on that as well.
What also makes me mad is when any politician says the illegals need to “come out of the shadows.” For those of us who live in areas that have been taken over by illegals, they aren’t living in shadows. I get sick and tired of hearing this.
moonsbreath on January 8, 2008 at 10:28 AM
Huck just locked up SC with this
faraway on January 8, 2008 at 10:29 AM
OK here’s mine,
McCain 32%
Mitt 31%
Rudy 24%
Fred 10%
NutBag 3%
And on the other side
Obama 42%
Clinton 30%
Edwards 21%
Richards 7%
conservnut on January 8, 2008 at 10:30 AM
If you want to continue assisting Mexico and Latin America in dumping their unskilled, uneducated underclasses onto the backs of the U.S. taxpayer, then by all means vote for McCain (or Huckabee, another AMNESTY supporter masquerading as a secure borders advocate).
Romney may look like a game show host and be throwing money around like confetti, but I’d vote for him over McCain or Huckabee any day.
AZCoyote on January 8, 2008 at 10:30 AM
I hope the voters of SC are smarter than that.
Slublog on January 8, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Who cares…. Iowa and New Hampshire have been so manipulated by the press and the candidates I don’t think you can get a representative selection that will show how a candidate would do nationally.
and BTW …. Geaux Tigers! LSU is Number 1….
roux on January 8, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Try not to be such a jackass. Okay? All you had to do was answer the question.
Your hypocrisy is unbelievable. You made a snarky remark to Bkennedy and then you turn around and lecture me for being condescending.
I’m coming to the conclusion that a lot of you Fred heads are a bunch of loons.
But, let’s cut to the chase:
Your answer makes absolutely no sense vis a vis r2b’s comments. Would you like to try again, or move on?
Buy Danish on January 8, 2008 at 10:34 AM
uh…no. In fact this is NOT going to play well. I linked to Levin over at NRO above for his take, and I think more of the base will fall in line with him than Huck. This really doesn’t look good at all.
Weight of Glory on January 8, 2008 at 10:34 AM
Anyone notice how this has nomination process has turned into a game of Survivor? For the Dems, the 2nd and 3rd place candidates have teams upon against the presumptive winner almost ensuring that a more liberal candidate will be nominated. The Republicans used the same tactic but with different results. The 2nd and 3rd place candidates teamed up against the presumptive lead candidate basically ensuring once again that a more liberal candidate will win the nomination. I also disagree about the best tactic for Fredheads. Fred can either go up against just Romney and be the anti-Mitt candidate or he can go up against Huckabee, McCain AND Romney. The best strategy for Fred (or Fred supporters) is to get behind a Mitt win in NH. McCain and Huckabee have little money and the sooner one goes, the sooner the other will go because they won’t have each other to run interference.
davenp35 on January 8, 2008 at 10:35 AM
I bet Al Gore is glad he did not jump in this time around. Messiah would eat his lunch also.
Frankly, I would rather the GOP have the opportunity/fun to go against Hillary in November.
I am unclear at this point as to who can beat Obama/Oprah in November.
faraway on January 8, 2008 at 10:35 AM
If so, then Ron Paul is the guy who walked around naked.
Slublog on January 8, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Wow, is there nothing this tool will resort to? This flies in the face of where he has stood on this issue in the past. And a pretty safe claim. As predident at most he can suggest that he would like to see it. Getting Congess to act on it is a whole other ball game. But it will probably help him with the ill-informed masses. (the Hucksters)
conservnut on January 8, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Just read this article on Obama from the headlines above. I think everyone here should take a few minutes and read it. It is a great insight into how this man, who may very well be our next president, works.
bnelson44 on January 8, 2008 at 10:36 AM
Aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh, puke, gag, spit, aaaaggghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
conservnut on January 8, 2008 at 10:38 AM
I’m absolutely amazed that McCain is doing as well as he is, given his championing of the enormously unpopular shamnesty bill. It either shows how stupid the electorate truly is, or how dismally short their memory.
realitycheck on January 8, 2008 at 10:40 AM
I guess those New Hampshire voters are not being over run with illegal immigrants. How else could they select Capt’n amnesty over the other Republican candidates. McCain will never get my vote because the only reason McCain backed off is because the focus groupes kicked his ignorant ass.
Deep down, he is way out of touch with the American people. Mitt is too, but is much better. Huck is the one that seems to be in touch, but he is too soft on immigration as well. The lesser of evils is Mitt.
saiga on January 8, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Exactly! I thought we shouldn’t punish the kids for the sins of the parents. Now he’s proposing we go after the youngest of the kinds…the newborns, by denying them citizenship. This latest example shows me that he really is not serious about his social agenda, and he is signaling to the Dems that he is not serious either.
Weight of Glory on January 8, 2008 at 10:42 AM
Honestly, it doesn’t matter. He’s done.
Anyway, here goes:
McCain (by 6)
Romney
Huckabee
Giuliani
Paul
Thompson
Hunter
Big S on January 8, 2008 at 10:42 AM
You’re welcome. I live in Georgia too, although I’m a Yankee transplant. I hope you’ll forgive that part of my bio :-)
By the way, I do agree with Huck on this. That’s okay – Mitt can say he agrees, which he probably does.
Buy Danish on January 8, 2008 at 10:43 AM
I am not a Huck supporter but Levin does not represent the base in SC. No, not even close. Levin is part of the East Coast Republican Establishment that went to ivy league schools (as most of those posting at NRO are). They aren’t the base in SC. That is why Mitt is having problems in SC, he looks like and appeals to the ivy league crowd and people in both parties are sick and tired of them running the country. But they have the money and will probably prevail this election as they have in the past.
bnelson44 on January 8, 2008 at 10:43 AM
The NH winner: McCain or Romney.
The loser: The Republican party.
Hollowpoint on January 8, 2008 at 10:43 AM
Now I am scared.
conservnut on January 8, 2008 at 10:44 AM
No, No a thousand times. Yes it’s funny, but Richard Hatch won Survivor.
PowWow on January 8, 2008 at 10:44 AM
Dems:
Obama (by 16)
Edwards
Clinton
Big S on January 8, 2008 at 10:45 AM
You are absolutely right in pointing out that dynamic. However, I still think such a 180 will come across as phony to people in south Carolina, especially when the other candidates start pointing this out. And Fred is down there right now, and he is probably licking his chops over this. And he will say what Levin says, and he will do it at the same “level” as those in SC.
Weight of Glory on January 8, 2008 at 10:47 AM
I don’t understand the support for McCain either. I think most people are just ignorant of his record. I heard voters in NH last night saying they were going to vote for him because he’s a real conservative. I almost lost control of the car.
Fingers crossed for Mitt. I think he’s the best chance to beat Obama.
I just read the Obama story from bnelson44………scary.
Geronimo on January 8, 2008 at 10:48 AM
If Juan McCain loses, will he drop out?
(HOPE HOPE HOPE)
stenwin77 on January 8, 2008 at 10:49 AM
Funny, a lot of people have come to the same conclusion about you.
What???? Moving right along…
Oh, sorry, did I mirror your own response? You were condescending, and that wasn’t even a name. Nice to see you’ve dropped to name calling(jackass, loons-extra credit for smearing all supporters of a candidate) without making any actual argument to my claim. Take off the Mitten blinders for a minute before you start up your usual victim act where everyone is paranoid and “loons” if they don’t accept initial snark of calling someone a Huck supporter because they question Hillary-comparable money dropping.
Before you start calling people hypocrites, maybe you should set an example. Doh, I forgot. You’re in your world where you are never wrong. Excuse me.
MadisonConservative on January 8, 2008 at 10:50 AM
Obama by 5 for the dems
McCain-Romney very close. I think could go either way
ConservativePartyNow on January 8, 2008 at 10:53 AM
McCain
Romney
Huckabee
Paul
Thompson
Giuliiani
Hunter
Mickey Mouse
Keyes
warrenmr on January 8, 2008 at 10:54 AM
With all due respect for NH and McCain,
Fred didn’t ask any favors there.
NH=SC NOT!
Go Fred!
maverick muse on January 8, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Born in Michigan, raised in Georgia. :p
Huckleberry knows that the South is flooded with illegals. It appears he’ll change (like a cameleon) his views according to where the next campaign stump is.
moonsbreath on January 8, 2008 at 10:56 AM
legacy?
maverick muse on January 8, 2008 at 10:57 AM
I have changed my thinking on some issues because the idea of Huckleberry being president is as distasteful a political choice I have ever considered having to make.
I am less bothered by McCain for this reason. WE, the American people are the final say in the illegal immigration issue. We held them off before and we can hold them off again. It is an issue that transcends party affiliation and we will come together to defeat it. The president was for it last time and we won and we can do it again.
I know, I know, this is stage three in the kubler-ross model for me. So, while the Elmer Gantry candidate is viable, I have added McCain to my choices of Rudy and Mitt. And because SC is make or break for Huck, McCain and Mitt will be my guys until then. If McCain wins today, I might even support him in MI and then on to SC. If Mitt wins today, then Mitt’s my guy in MI, and until we see how strong he runs against Huck in SC. If Fred runs stronger, then Fred is my guy and I will send him $2300 to send that religious shyster Huck back to his ignorant easily led evangelicals.
csdeven on January 8, 2008 at 10:58 AM
You know, that’s a very good point. However, doesn’t the thin line of victory last time leave you wishing the fight wouldn’t have to be so hard?
MadisonConservative on January 8, 2008 at 11:01 AM
emperor of nudist colony
maverick muse on January 8, 2008 at 11:01 AM
I can’t remember the exact numbers, but I believe McCain beat Bush by about 18 points in the 2000 NH primary. So should the Maverick get all excited about a 2-3 point win tonight?
Of course, it was a two-horse race in 2000. The dynamics are totally different this year.
infidel65 on January 8, 2008 at 11:02 AM
Lol. Great analogy, but if this blog is a microcosm of the larger world, the idea that Fred supporters will line up behind Mitt might be a long shot. They really seem to loathe Mitt and I don’t know if they can get past that.
At least some of them would choose to pick up their ball and go home.
You think that one comment indicated that I was condescending? Hey, I think I’ll play your game and have a try at armchair psychology!
You have diagnosed me as me as “paranoid” and “neurotic”. Classic case of Projection?
And since you don’t like “jackass”, how about “insufferabl prick”? Do you like that better? Hmmmm?
I could say more, but then we’d be getting into a discussion about brain cells.
Buy Danish on January 8, 2008 at 11:04 AM
Make that [insufferable] prick.
Buy Danish on January 8, 2008 at 11:06 AM
For the GOP, I have no prediction on NH. Either way, Mitt or McCain, weakens Huck. In MI it looks like Mitt is up by one, so a loss in NH could hurt, but Huck certainly isn’t helped either. The best possible outcome in NH is for Huck to finish 4th or worse.
But what I’d like to know is how Huck keeps getting away with lying about the polls? He is not leading in Florida, or MI, and Hunter, RP, and Fred did better in the Texas straw poll. Why is he not challenged on those claims?
csdeven on January 8, 2008 at 11:08 AM
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