Hillary Clinton wins the Granite State; Video: “I found my own voice”; Update: Big wins among women, registered Dems
posted at 10:50 pm on January 8, 2008 by Bryan
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It could still go the other way, though that’s unlikely now. But at this point, even if the race tightens further, and even if Obama ends up winning by a point or two, The Glacier cried, Obamania died…? That plus the new “Comeback Kid” meme could be the Democrat narrative now. She lost the women’s vote in Iowa, regained it New Hampshire, and the teary-eyed emoting on Monday, however fake it appeared to cynics like us, may have had a great deal to do with her finish. The Glacier became flesh. Second to that, maybe Fat Elvis helped her more than he hurt? I didn’t see that coming. Hardly anyone did.
Or did she just scare enough New Hampshire voters into giving her the gold?
But think of this. The Clinton campaign, earlier today in apparent disarray, is not dead. They’ll have the Carville circus coming back to town to do all their negative work (I won’t use the word Hillary used to describe it earlier Tuesday) so she and Bill will get to go back on the positive while their crew sets out to sabotage Obama. Edwards probably isn’t long for the campaign, so his supporters will go somewhere. The question is where?
The Democrats don’t have a solid front-runner. The Clinton machine will be divisive in their quest to knock off Obama. He’ll have to fight back in kind and he doesn’t have the army of spinners that the Clintons have.
Advantage Hillary? She did dominate among women voters, but Obama dominated among men and independents. The Democrats have a well-known but not much reported gender gap — as a party, they have big trouble attracting men. Hillary won’t help that in the general election; Obama might.
The big loser in all this: John McCain. Sure, he won New Hampshire. But he’s still behind in delegates (Romney leads) and is now robbed of much of the post-New Hampshire media chatter. No chatter, less momentum.
Update (AP): Ditto to what Bryan said. Conservative America is breathing a collective sigh of relief tonight.
Update: Indeed we are. Want some more good news? Well, this depends on who you support on the GOP side, but McCain’s lead over Romney is narrowing down to about 5 points. It’s not quite the thumping it was earlier tonight.
Update: CNN joins the others in calling it for Hillary, making it official.
Update: Obama’s concession was impressive. Now here’s Hillary with that…voice. She just made a joke about that voice, actually. Second sigh of relief. Now here comes Comeback Kid 2.0. I may be sick.
Update: Putting on my paranoid leftist hat for a sec, could the ballot shortages have had any effect on the outcome?
Update (AP): Now that it’s safe to hate her again, let me just say how nauseatingly touchy-feely and transparently aimed at women the line about finding “my own voice” here is. Good lord. As grating as Obama is smooth.
Update (AP): Not only did the Glacier walk away with women, she won by double digits among registered Dems. The squishy, post-partisan, transcendent charisma campaign may play well with independents but when policy push comes to policy shove, the NH base prefers Hillary.
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Pulled it right out her support hose, she did.
tree hugging sister on January 8, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Excellent front photo.
baldilocks on January 8, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Hillary cried, Obama died
Hening on January 8, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Obama concedes. Graciously.
Christoph on January 8, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Oh, no she’ll be crying before every primary now…
d1carter on January 8, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Does the phrase “Vote early, and often” apply?
kflynn on January 8, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Actually, that is a good outcome for Republicans.
Now if we can only get Wackjob McCain back into his locked broom closet, we’ll be set…
TexasJew on January 8, 2008 at 10:54 PM
CNN called it also for Hilly
William Amos on January 8, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Very true. But if Obama had won by 12% or so, there would be no McCain chatter then either.
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 10:54 PM
It’s good for her to eke out a close win. The bloodier the Dem’s primary race, the better. Let them cannibalize each other for a while.
Pope Linus on January 8, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Congratulations, Senator Clinton.
RushBaby on January 8, 2008 at 10:55 PM
It’s only fair that Obama cries now.
BlackCapitalist on January 8, 2008 at 10:56 PM
So much for change
froghat on January 8, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Ok that was uncalled for.
peski on January 8, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Since she long ago sold her soul to the Devil what did this win actually cost her? Anyone seen Chelsea in the past few days?
Buzzy on January 8, 2008 at 10:57 PM
There is no crying in Baseball only in primaries
BTW Exit question Mitt cried also why no bounce ?
William Amos on January 8, 2008 at 10:57 PM
This race is crazy. And this development definitely softens the blow to Romney on the Republican side.
Patriot33 on January 8, 2008 at 10:58 PM
2nd look at Hillary and then Rudy later on!?!??!?!
froghat on January 8, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Did Obama just say “yes we can” 3 times just like MLK said “Free at last” 3 times?
broker1 on January 8, 2008 at 10:58 PM
AP you and I are the same person, except my phone is better that yours, your job is better than mine, and I still have a crush on Fred!
peski on January 8, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Hugh says it make him the big winner.
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Iceberg carves out win in Granite State.
SouthernGent on January 8, 2008 at 11:00 PM
I’m having breakfast w/ Hugh on Saturday and plan to push him on this. I don’t disagree, but he’s so far in Romney’s camp that I think his objectivity is AWOL.
peski on January 8, 2008 at 11:00 PM
With the frontrunners almost tied, this may just be the right time for Bill “Gordo” Richardson to make his big move…
TexasJew on January 8, 2008 at 11:01 PM
hot diggity daaaaaaayum
and ya, good front photo
i just updated our front page with the winners. woot
Drunk Report on January 8, 2008 at 11:01 PM
He sure did, and then right after that he mentioned JKF and MLK. He also started getting that Southern Twang MLK had when he spoke.
Keep trying
broker1 on January 8, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Are you kidding me? How are real conservatives breathing a sigh of relief? It looks like a demo-crap will face one of three RINOs in the general. There will be no option for conservative voters. You better hope large numbers of conservatives can hold their nose and show up. It looks to me like this could be an even worse year for Repubs than 06. I hope something changes, but not looking good.
jwp1964 on January 8, 2008 at 11:02 PM
The Dow fell 238 points today because the stock market knew that Romney wasn’t going to win.
Bill C on January 8, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Wow, Obama’s giving a magnificent speech and sounds so much like Martin Luther King.
You may not remember his speaches; heck, I don’t. My dad told me how moving they were.
But I’ve heard them.
And that’s what Obama sounds like… this is his concession speech for this part of the candidate selection process. He may not win now… but one day, he’ll be powerful if he continues this.
Christoph on January 8, 2008 at 11:02 PM
A chill wind blows over change…
elgeneralisimo on January 8, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Barak to the future vs the hillanator the battle of sequels
William Amos on January 8, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Judging by the numbers (not %) that voted for the dems and the republicans in these 2 primaries, it is sad to say that it looks like because so many conservatives allegedy refuse to compromise on one or two issue and insist on an all or nothing candidate that they will wont vote (the ones i know are already admitting to this) which will ultimately hand the election to the libs regardless who gets the democratic nomination.
if anything, vote just to keep the libs out of office and from fixing things that arent broke and not fixing things are.
El Guapo on January 8, 2008 at 11:02 PM
This is going to be a long election. I bet it will back and forth until at least May. I do see them splitting the Super Tuesday states
ConservativePartyNow on January 8, 2008 at 11:03 PM
If that happens, just call me “boracho”, because that’s where I’d go.
peski on January 8, 2008 at 11:03 PM
I blame Edwards.
Magnificent silky bastage
Wind Rider on January 8, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Did the media hype Obama to help make Hillary the ‘comeback kid’?
How come all major media polls beside Rasmussen got it wrong?
Pollgate anybody?
bobby04040 on January 8, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Gasp! What are the implications for The Secret? Didn’t Oprah want Obama to win? Has the universe denied her? All of metaphysics has endured a grave setback!
emailnuevo on January 8, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Maybe NC’s primary (in May) will count for something after all!
SouthernGent on January 8, 2008 at 11:04 PM
I know some Lib Dems here in NYC who were quite distressed over HRC’s collapse in the surveys.
I don’t know how much of it was chicanery and how much was we’ve had our fun, time to get serious, but some Dems freaked out and got to work.
It shows, at least, that the idea that Obama is underqualified is not confined to Republicans.
ForNow on January 8, 2008 at 11:04 PM
Hillary the Democratic nominee: Republicans will be inspired to vote despite an uninspiring Republican candidate.
Obama the Democratic nominee: Republicans will not show up while more independents and youth show up to support him.
I like the Republicans chances against Hillary more than Obama.
henzou on January 8, 2008 at 11:05 PM
I just have one thing to say about Hillary’s win: Karl Rove, you magnificent bastard!!!
froghat on January 8, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Yeesh - here she is! Cotton balls in…
flip on January 8, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Can I get a Fredhead’s spin on all this, please?
SouthernGent on January 8, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Luntz just said 17% of R and 19% of D made up their mind TODAY.
That tells it all…
broker1 on January 8, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Snap out of it, Christoph. It’s fundamentally dishonest empty pablum delivered in a ringing baritone with lots of anaphora and other devices he borrowed from those same tapes you listened to.
CK MacLeod on January 8, 2008 at 11:06 PM
One main reason I can’t stand Obama.
If you can’t be a great man, yourself - impersonate one.
yo on January 8, 2008 at 11:07 PM
(With God having unmistakably picked Obama and Huckabee to win, how could He let all this happen?)
flip on January 8, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Anybody notice the youthful background this time behind Hillary? I guess Albright got the axe.
henzou on January 8, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Clinton just started speaking and she looks emotional. Genuinely this time, I believe.
Christoph on January 8, 2008 at 11:07 PM
I dont understand.
The Clinton Machine is back from the dead, and I’m supposed to feel good?
Always Right on January 8, 2008 at 11:07 PM
We can beat Hillary. We don’t want to go against Obama.
bnelson44 on January 8, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Satan is strong…but then why would god allow Satan to derail his plan…I’m digressing.
SouthernGent on January 8, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Anyone else notice Bill Clinton always has a jolly red plump face like Sanata? hahaha He looks goofy
froghat on January 8, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Dem turnout was higher of course, but the Hillary-Obama vote spread is about to surpass McCain-Romney.
flip on January 8, 2008 at 11:08 PM
Sorry, that’s the best I can do tonight. More tomorrow.
peski on January 8, 2008 at 11:09 PM
79% precincts Reporting
Clinton 39.29
Obama 36.3
76% precincts Reporting
McCain 36.84
Romney 31.72
bnelson44 on January 8, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Just like the Clintonistas cant be killed by Obamamania,
dont for a moment think we can beat this woman that easily in November.
Always Right on January 8, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Alright, let’s start the bidding:
How long till Shrillary gets teary-eyed again?
I’m betting during her victory speech right now KD
blackfish on January 8, 2008 at 11:09 PM
My grandmother had a sofa with the same pattern as Hillary’s jacket.
I loved that couch.
yo on January 8, 2008 at 11:09 PM
Having worked for Dem machines in both MD and Chicago, I was immediately suspicious when I heard that polling stations had run out of ballots by late morning. Perhaps the stock of ballots had been previously filled in. Or, perhaps some people were taking advantage of NH’s permissive motor-voter law.
Does anyone know whether there are chads on NH ballots?
chsw (would have posted earlier but just got home)
chsw on January 8, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Bourbon will do that to you.
bnelson44 on January 8, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Ya, look at all the people who have never actually paid real taxes behind her. Woot woot!
gator70 on January 8, 2008 at 11:10 PM
I say all the Republican candidates break out in tears tomorrow!
bnelson44 on January 8, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Sure.
Hillary staying in is great news for Republicans. This means the Clinton Crime family has more time and money to dig up stuff on Obama. How does Fred play in all this? He doesn’t. S.C. is his Alamo.
Mojave Mark on January 8, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Predatory student loan companies?? that charge 4% on those loans?? How about looking at the liberal universities that charge 30K a year for an education??
broker1 on January 8, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Yote for Hillary ! or else…..
/New campaign slogan
William Amos on January 8, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Why would Edwards drop out? He’s got public tax dollars to keep him in beer and skittles on a campaign bus all the way up to the convention. He can just keep telling that story about the guy with the cleft palette even after they stop covering it.
Dudley Smith on January 8, 2008 at 11:11 PM
She will not be “crying”…ever again. That phony baloney actually worked with stupid single women (Ann Coulter is so spot on) and now she has the big mo back.
SouthernGent on January 8, 2008 at 11:12 PM
So apparently Hillary going mean worked against Obama. Does this mean Obama turns to mean for the next round?
Ferris on January 8, 2008 at 11:12 PM
The middle class will grow? AND prosper?
Not bloody likely, Hill.
yo on January 8, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Yes, but watching this narcissist Hillary meanwhile is almost impossible to take.
petefrt on January 8, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Rush Limbaugh must be pulling hair out. His worst nightmare just happened. A McCain win and a Clinton win. aha
froghat on January 8, 2008 at 11:13 PM
I can’t stand when Dems talk about the middle class, or invisible people. This is a party that is out to destroy the middle class and have exterminated millions of invisible people through abortion.
Hening on January 8, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Aparently Obama needs to work more on his baby charming gaze it didnt move enough babies to vote for him.
/Brian Williams
William Amos on January 8, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Judging on the folks behind her, Hill’s go the doofus vote all wrapped up.
yo on January 8, 2008 at 11:14 PM
Let’s see, socialist Hillary or empty suit, but clean, articulate, speaks well Obama against Rino McCain or Rino Huckabee,
I don’t know about you, but the field stinks.
Kini on January 8, 2008 at 11:14 PM
‘The big loser in all this: John McCain??’
Hardly, given that for weeks we were told this was a must win state for Romney, who had a clear lead in the polls until 4 weeks ago. This win has revived McCain as a serious contender, and demonstated his electability in the general. If Obama had won again the MSM would have been flooded with analysis of Clinton’s demise, and talk of JFK mark II, so no real advantage gained there.
The real big loser is the Democratic Party, who have lost momentum, uncovered what will hopefully be a tight and divisive contest which will drag on, and injected a real catfight: one that ought to inspire some solidarity between GOP supporters. Things look much better for the general now with the Huckster and Obama on the back foot.
Pax americana on January 8, 2008 at 11:14 PM
I can’t believe she’s staying so even-keeled. No self-satisfied shrieks, no cackles, no cracking voice. The handlers must have finally got her programming straight.
flip on January 8, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Boy I can’t wait, standing in these bread lines are killing me. Oh wait, that’s what will happen when one of these socialists get elected.
gator70 on January 8, 2008 at 11:15 PM
thanking people?
It’s not like she won the Oscar for best documentary.
yo on January 8, 2008 at 11:15 PM
2nd look at George W. Bush 3rd term!!!!
froghat on January 8, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Yea, me too. But he might just be a hopeless optimist, if you know him, you’d know him better than me, but I listened to him on the last election night, and I thought he wasn’t watching the same things I were.
Maybe so, maybe so.
His charisma makes him seem inevitable to me, if not this election then down the road a bit.
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 11:16 PM
He’s going to keep doing this till he gets elected. If he doesn’t get the nomination this time, or gets it and loses the general, he’ll be a lock next time around. He’ll be out in front of the pack in 2012 and will take it all. He’s gaining name recognition and reputation.
a capella on January 8, 2008 at 11:16 PM
Bloomberg/Obama!
SouthernGent on January 8, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Hey gang, weve had four different winners in four different election/caucuses in less than one week.
And not ONE of them is worth a damn.
Always Right on January 8, 2008 at 11:17 PM
A little schadenfreude for the HotAir crowd courtesy of DailyKos
broker1 on January 8, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Yeah, this is a small relief.
a capella on January 8, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Someone needs to explain to her that the microphone serves to amplify her voice. The screaming over applause (as at the end) is so grating as to make the baby Jesus cry.
flip on January 8, 2008 at 11:18 PM
True.
Bryan on January 8, 2008 at 11:19 PM
Did anyone really think that Hillary was out if she lost in NH? I don’t get it… now she’s the comeback kid? Please… this is nuts.
MT on January 8, 2008 at 11:19 PM
While Hillary continues to shriek, Obama gains on her. 39 to 37% is nothing to get jiggy about.
Hening on January 8, 2008 at 11:19 PM
MT,
I’m with you, I guess this is how the News and Pundits make their money.
gator70 on January 8, 2008 at 11:20 PM
rEVOLUTION
Kini on January 8, 2008 at 11:20 PM
Clinton’s best speech ever. Not a fan of her, but it was good.
Christoph on January 8, 2008 at 11:20 PM
An excellent point. Now my question is: Are the people “in the shadows” technically invisible? What about shadow people (this is probably more in Kucinich territory)?
Nosferightu on January 8, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Someone already said it somewhere here in these threads, but Im gonna repeat it. Relying on the young vote is risky business. I think Obama’s high polling numbers were buoyed by lots of young people. And as we’ve seen numerous times, young people just dont show up and cast ballots. Also I think lots of independents voted for McCain.
The Hayekian on January 8, 2008 at 11:22 PM
SECOND LOOK AT HITCHENS/HUCKABEE!
CATCH HITCHABOOM FEVER!!!!
broker1 on January 8, 2008 at 11:23 PM
I must admit that this makes me glad for some reason. I guess the unfamiliarity of Obama makes me nervous. I think the Republicans can beat Hillary; not so sure about Obama.
carbon_footprint on January 8, 2008 at 11:25 PM
And the biggest lose of all - the pollsters and prognosticators.
Tuco on January 8, 2008 at 11:25 PM
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