Is Hillary going to win this thing? Update: Diebold! Update: Hillary rebounds among women
posted at 9:21 pm on January 8, 2008 by Allahpundit
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A steady four-point lead with fully one-third of precincts of reporting. Geraghty’s source says the early result is misrepresentative, but Michael Barone thinks she’s in the game and there’s some word of exit polls being “re-weighted.”
Has the Second Coming of the Messiah already been aborted? And if so, how many times are we going to hear the “15 percent lie” cited as an explanation tomorrow? Looks like America might be racist again.
Update: Obama’s already cut it to two in the past few minutes. Any loss within single digits will be spun by Hillary, not entirely unreasonably, as a momentum-stopper, so it’s a fairly good night for her already.
Update (Bryan): Hold the phone, she’s back up to a four-point lead. Comeback Kid’s Revenge in the making?
Update: Hmmm — Fox News is reporting that the college towns have yet to be counted.
Update: Spin or omen?
Update: The either/or excuse to go with the “15 percent lie”: Diebold!
Update: The secret to Hillary’s surprise? She recaptured the women’s vote that Obama won in Iowa, taking New Hampshire’s women by 13 points. Did the tears do the trick? As for independents, surprisingly, Obama’s lead is only seven points.
Update: Lowry offers an intriguing, staggeringly ironic theory. Did press hype for the Messiah suppress turnout among independents?
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Brilliant. All the radio shows need to pick that one up!
Warning: Not for the faint of heart.
RushBaby on January 8, 2008 at 10:05 PM
From the Texas Rainmaker link…
I have long suspected that the threat of hacking is far greater from the left than from the right. I also suspect that several senate races have been “hacked” in favor of Democrats in the last two election cycles. I think Webb’s victory in particular is highly suspect. I also think the Clintons helped Obama win his senate seat, which is why they are so p*ssed at him now…it’s like “we MADE you, d*mnit, so who do you think you are to challenge Hillary for the presidency now?”
Just my opinion, but I think it’s highly likely that I’m right.
ITookTheRedPill on January 8, 2008 at 10:05 PM
I think it’s possible that Democratic women are just really, really gullible. However, Obama’s useless on foreign policy, so whatevah. Whoever they want to lead their party is their biz.
Christoph on January 8, 2008 at 10:07 PM
BINGO!
Dude. You are on to something.
We are a racist nation. Who would’ve thunk?
The 15% percent lie.
.
.
The same goes for Huckabee.
In an open outcry situation Christian evangelicalS don’t want to be seen in public as voting for the “unchristian” candidate!
Dude and dudettes… this is a moment of epiphany!
OH MY GOD!
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!
Mcguyver on January 8, 2008 at 10:08 PM
The allegorical reference is actually a compliment in her case, I should have used Beelzebub, but couldn’t work it into her name, now if I was talking about Billy Jeff it would have worked, Beelzebubba.
Alden Pyle on January 8, 2008 at 10:08 PM
I’m just glad Mitt is making it respectable!!
SouthernGent on January 8, 2008 at 10:08 PM
59.8% reporting:
Clinton - 39
Obama - 36.55
Difference = 2.45
The Clinton lead is holding steady.
Christoph on January 8, 2008 at 10:11 PM
Yes. Repulsively. Ah look, she’s one of us - real fake tears!
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 10:11 PM
Connie on January 8, 2008 at 10:13 PM
I think… she… just……. might!
Drunk Report on January 8, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Bingo!
Christoph on January 8, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Okay, we SO need to get Fred! some time on the couch with the Kleenex shrink.
He’s an actor. He should be able to emote even better than The Destined One.
SimplyKimberly on January 8, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Clinton has steadily held around a 4400 vote lead.
henzou on January 8, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Politico:
http://www.politico.com/nhprimaries/nhmap-popup.html
Rep 59.8% reporting
Rudy 8.62%
Huck 11.3%
Hunter .51%
McCain 36.81%
Paul 7.83%
Romney 31.17%
Fred 1.19%
Dems 61.79% reporting
Clinton 39.11%
Edwards 16.61%
Obama 36.4%
bnelson44 on January 8, 2008 at 10:14 PM
61.79% reporting:
Clinton - 39.11
Obama - 36.4
Difference = 2.71
Clinton lead… increasing.
Christoph on January 8, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Oh, go shave your backs! :-)
baldilocks on January 8, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Shave yours.
Christoph on January 8, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Is it wrong for me to root for Hillary hoping that parity between her and Obama could lead to a lot more bloodletting on their side of the fence?
NorthernCross on January 8, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Hey, that’s what I’m doing.
Christoph on January 8, 2008 at 10:18 PM
My dream? Hillary and Obama battle it out in every primary state with Obama coming out say 1-3% ahead overall. Then the Clinton machine strong-arms all the SUPER-DELEGATES to give her the nomination in Colorado. That way Repubs get to face Shillary after the Dems b***ch-slap Obama back to the plantation where they really think “people of color” belong doing their assigned work of voting for the Democrat establishment.
Deety on January 8, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Never count a Clinton out. Those tears worked. And she knew they would.
mattyj86 on January 8, 2008 at 10:19 PM
Edwards: “Two races down, 48 states to go.”
flyfisher on January 8, 2008 at 10:20 PM
To northerncross,
in a word.. no
Because then we will really discover that we are raaaacist nation… which is a good thing.
/sarc
Mcguyver on January 8, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Mine doesn’t have hair on it, darling. I’m not a man. (My joke was a reference to a Hot Air headline thread.)
baldilocks on January 8, 2008 at 10:20 PM
The voters in Iowa are obviously chauvinist.
The voters in New Hampshire are obviously racist.
TheSitRep on January 8, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Edwards is giving the same examples he gave in Iowa. Same. Exact. Ones.
amerpundit on January 8, 2008 at 10:22 PM
That’s how that exchange should have gone.
TexasDan on January 8, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Hillary/Obama 2008 ! Make the US racist and chauvinist at the same time !
William Amos on January 8, 2008 at 10:23 PM
LOL. I saw that headline earlier, and I was thinking. Who cares what they think?! I say you take what you get and don’t complain about it!
/joking
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 10:23 PM
I have thought this for a while now.
The polling phone call comes: “Would you vote for Barack Obama for president?”
The respondent, who has probably been called “racist” a time or two (you know, for, like, being opposed to affirmative action or something) or who has been forced to sit through “diversity training” at work: “Uhhhhhh…sure!”
Then the voter closes the curtain on the voting booth and does what he damn well pleases.
Rational Thought on January 8, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Hillary Clinton…
YOU GO GIRL!!!
barry norris on January 8, 2008 at 10:23 PM
Edwards ought to dominate the cleft palate vote.
flyfisher on January 8, 2008 at 10:23 PM
I am going to go ahead and call New Hampshire early and just say that there’s not going to be a Fredalanche©
TheSitRep on January 8, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Touche’
SouthernGent on January 8, 2008 at 10:24 PM
At which point, I began drinking heavily, such that in the future, if anyone recalled cheers of joy at a Clinton victory, I could claim inebriation….
Wind Rider on January 8, 2008 at 10:24 PM
It looks like a stalemate in the Democrat primaries. Why don’t the Dems go ahead and call it a quagmire and immediately “redeploy”? Or will they invoke a surge strategy? Funny what is bad in political campaigns is supposed to be good for military campaigns. I don’t see the Dems calling it quits just because no clear cut winner can be determined. Why are they so eager to cut and run in Iraq but not on their political ambitions? C’mon do what is good for America, all of you quit.
Just A Grunt on January 8, 2008 at 10:24 PM
I’m picturing a new HotAir video of Hillary set to the tune of “It’s alright to cry” from the Free-to-be-you-and-me album of the early seventies.
TexasDan on January 8, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Talk about a buzz kill! Listening to Edwards speak and he is just such a downer. I couldn’t handle his pessimism for 4 years as president. Please just fade away.
Just A Grunt on January 8, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Anyone listening to Hugh Hewitt? He’s spinning the Romney loss like it was a win.
froghat on January 8, 2008 at 10:25 PM
I’m so verklempt ….. talk amongst yourselves….
Chimp 6 on January 8, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Any bets that she asks him to be her VP? Peace, love and happiness. If he loses here it’s pretty much over for him.
SouthernGent on January 8, 2008 at 10:26 PM
63.12% in
Clinton 39.0
Obama 36.39
movement
bnelson44 on January 8, 2008 at 10:26 PM
I’m kinda hoping she does take NH..I don’t think I can take another week of hearing about CHANGE and color blindness, as the MSM brings up color at every turn!
Pam on January 8, 2008 at 10:26 PM
So basically your dream is that African-American voters get screwed over??
Christoph on January 8, 2008 at 10:27 PM
So how long till the liberals get creative and say we all suffer from Hillary Derangement Syndrome?
Pcoop on January 8, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Thats what I thought, I literally had to wait a minute to see if it was a reply of the Iowa speech…
He is such a fraud…
broker1 on January 8, 2008 at 10:28 PM
I figured that the joke would go well with the joke about females buying the Hillary fake tears. It appears that I was half right. Ah well.
baldilocks on January 8, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Andrew Meyer in his new book “That tasing of Obama bro”
William Amos on January 8, 2008 at 10:29 PM
They have been for 50+ years by the democrats. Why stop now?
SouthernGent on January 8, 2008 at 10:29 PM
*crossing fingers*
republican senate.
republican congress.
republican senate.
republican congress.
republican senate.
republican congress.
republican senate.
republican congress.
Come on! Chant with me. Call me a pessimist but I have no faith in our party right now to think we are going to make it in the White House. I’m praying for the second best scenario.
Pcoop on January 8, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Life is profane. Pull up your panties.
***
Alden Pyle
Hitler is dead. Apparently, stupidity is not.
The Race Card on January 8, 2008 at 10:31 PM
I’d just like to see it out in the open for all to see.
Deety on January 8, 2008 at 10:31 PM
pMSNBC calls it for Shillary….Matthews is orgasming.
SouthernGent on January 8, 2008 at 10:32 PM
Erick at Redstate: I know one thing for sure: Obama and Oprah need to hire food tasters and car starters.
flyfisher on January 8, 2008 at 10:32 PM
AP Calls it for Hildabeast
Son of Sam Kinison on January 8, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Fair enough — had you gone with Hillary is the Anti-Christ I wouldn’t have batted an eye. I get a little crazy about the Hitler thing.
Jaibones on January 8, 2008 at 10:33 PM
Sure. No Iowan wants to be thought a racist or opposed to a man of the cloth. Appearences and peer pressure are pretty powerful motivators in public situations. I suspect men also don’t want to be considered misogynist pigs when given the gender choice, but in this case they apparently feared being considered a racist more degrading.
a capella on January 8, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Dennis Kucinich has more votes than Fred.
Maybe Fred should have said good things about aliens.
faraway on January 8, 2008 at 10:34 PM
AP calls it Hillary. Now, I want it to go Obama just for egg on their face.
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 10:35 PM
How cute are the little hippie chicks dancing in the crowd at Hill’s HQ?
So very cute.
Next up: drum circle for change.
yo on January 8, 2008 at 10:35 PM
I’m waiting for the college town, lesbian, ready for change vote in NH. It’s gonna’ be huge.
Hening on January 8, 2008 at 10:35 PM
I got it, baldilocks. Good one :)
mikeyboss on January 8, 2008 at 10:35 PM
Sloan — sorry, but it’s not likely that I’ll get better. TRC has been putting up with my mouth longer than you. I’m an acquired taste.
Little Feat: “never plan profanity; it rolls right off my tongue…”
Jaibones on January 8, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Would you rather Hillary or Obama as prez? Tough question.
BJ* on January 8, 2008 at 9:25 PM
No that is an easy question. Hildebeast.
Thankfully she stands no chance of winning the general election though.
HaraldHardrada on January 8, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Wow, they’re calling it for Hillary. The Comeback Kid redux! That’s great news, assuming we don’t nominate Huckabee and make it a moot point.
Dudley Smith on January 8, 2008 at 10:36 PM
NBC calls it for Hillary. Tim was ejaculative over her stunning comeback - and this race ain’t over yet.
Siiiiigh.
One ray of hope, Pcoop, is that the economy is tanking and there’s a slim chance it will get hung on the DEMOCRATIC congress coming into power right before that happened. We could have a GOP congress and a Dem president.
Either way, no hope for closing our borders.
mksmithwriter on January 8, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Well, I guess all the Hillary hacks can keep their homes and their Mercedes now.
faraway on January 8, 2008 at 10:37 PM
Hillary stole this election! I demand a recount!
sophiesmom on January 8, 2008 at 10:37 PM
AP for Hillary.
Unbelievable…
amerpundit on January 8, 2008 at 10:37 PM
I never thought I would be rooting for Hillary.
faraway on January 8, 2008 at 10:38 PM
Hillary “You want change ? I got yer change right HERE !”
William Amos on January 8, 2008 at 10:38 PM
CNN’s NH map is da bomb! A lot of white (no results at all) on that map.
SouthernGent on January 8, 2008 at 10:38 PM
NBC calls it for Clinton too.
Christoph on January 8, 2008 at 10:39 PM
It’s kinda’ like riding a moped, eh?
yo on January 8, 2008 at 10:39 PM
I thought it was funny ;)
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 10:40 PM
wow Tim Russert made the comment that Independents that were breaking for Obama switched to McCain.
broker1 on January 8, 2008 at 10:40 PM
The Clinton team has the “applause” light on now.
faraway on January 8, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Hah! This is going to be a long year :)
bnelson44 on January 8, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Wow.
CNN has 67% in, and HC 39 to BO 36.
Jaibones on January 8, 2008 at 10:41 PM
On FNC old Juan seems to be experiencing a massive “O” right now……Bill K. keeps sticking it to him this evening in a very demeaning way. Britt seems oblivious. I can’t figure out if they are pleased or pissed over these results.
dustoffmom on January 8, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Hewitt’s show, tonight, they’d mentioned that pro-Obama IND’s were voting for McCain to help Obama/DNC.
yo on January 8, 2008 at 10:42 PM
Probably because they wanted their votes to count and the hype was that Obama was going to sweep the field.
But why would college kids vote for McCain?
bnelson44 on January 8, 2008 at 10:42 PM
I’m actually pulling for Hillary, God forgive me. Oop Ack!
gator70 on January 8, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Brokaw just said this was a stunning comeback by Hillary. What’s so stunning? She supposedly had a lead just a day or two ago, she had the support of major N.H. Democrat insiders, and she garnered last minute sympathy with her cry-baby act.
flyfisher on January 8, 2008 at 10:43 PM
The cable pundits dont have any freaking idea why people voted the way they did.
faraway on January 8, 2008 at 10:44 PM
This make SC all that more interesting!
SouthernGent on January 8, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Rich Lowry: Whatever happened to hope sweeping the country? That was so 2 p.m.
bnelson44 on January 8, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Hope is dead.
faraway on January 8, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Look at Romney closing the gap! C’mon…more egg on their faces.
SouthernGent on January 8, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Now she’s back to 4% up.
Nice to see Huckabee with 11%, a nonfactor. Sick to see Fred with 1,200 votes. Ron Paul has him 8 to 1.
Quit.
Jaibones on January 8, 2008 at 10:45 PM
I figured out that pundits and exit polls were useless back in 2000. Every election the big story is that the polls were wrong. Somehow though it still keeps happening.
gator70 on January 8, 2008 at 10:45 PM
69% precincts Reporting
Clinton 39.42
Obama 36.03
66.44% precincts Reporting
McCain 36.68
Romney 31.64
bnelson44 on January 8, 2008 at 10:46 PM
SouthernGent on January 8, 2008 at 10:46 PM
CNN also predicts a win for Clinton.
amerpundit on January 8, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Here comes Obama…..should be an interesting speech.
dustoffmom on January 8, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Lowry: Memo to Romney: Tear Up Tomorrow!
bnelson44 on January 8, 2008 at 10:47 PM
MSNBC calling it for Hillary.
Biggest loser of the night = Keith Olbermann/ Biggest winner = Bubba- he’ll be hailed as a political genius and it will be said that it was his stump speeches that put her over the top.
frank on January 8, 2008 at 10:47 PM
good news is that huck wont get any delegates out of New Hampshire
William Amos on January 8, 2008 at 10:47 PM
Hmm , Fox called hillary
gator70 on January 8, 2008 at 10:47 PM
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