Hillary to Obama: You’re no MLK — although I might be LBJ

posted at 10:35 am on January 8, 2008 by Allahpundit

Never mind the creepy intro she got from her supporter comparing Obama to JFK before pointedly noting that he was assassinated. If that had happened at a Romney rally it’d be front-page news and Keith Olbermann would be breathing into a paper bag. But the media is what it is, and no charge of a “climate of hate” emanating from the Clinton godhead to animate deranged gunmen will stick. Never mind the plain truth, either, of what she said about Obama and MLK. That won’t save her from the dreaded Drudge red font of death, and in fairness to Barry O, he’s not claiming to be a moral leader of King’s stature. He’s claiming to be someone in the Kennedy/King line of charismatic progressives whose idealism Americans (especially kids) are inspired by. Although the messianic hysteria currently surrounding him does add some resonance to Melanie Phillips’s analogy.

The truly weird thing here is Hillary comparing herself implicitly to LBJ. True, he was an “agent of change” in some respects (i.e. civil rights) — but he was also the ultimate Washington insider and, um, infamous for extending and escalating an unpopular war. Is that really the image she wants to pitch to the nutroots and their cohorts?

Today, in Dover, Francine Torge, a former John Edwards supporter, said this while introducing Mrs. Clinton: “Some people compare one of the other candidates to John F. Kennedy. But he was assassinated. And Lyndon Baines Johnson was the one who actually” passed the civil rights legislation…

[Said Hillary,] “You know, today Senator Obama used President John F. Kennedy and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. to criticize me. He basically compared himself to our greatest heroes because they gave great speeches.

“President Kennedy was in Congress for 14 years. He was a war hero. He was a man of great accomplishments and readiness to be president. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. led a movement. He was gassed. He was beaten. He was jailed. And he gave a speech that was one of the most beautifully, profoundly important speeches ever written in America, the “I have a dream” speech.

“And then he worked with President Johnson to get the civil rights laws passed, because the dream couldn’t be realized until finally it was legally permissible for people of all colors and backgrounds and races and ethnicities to be accepted as citizens.

In other words, dreams are well and good but they don’t mean jack without an experienced pol who’s willing and able to actually get legislation passed. She’s not the candidate of hope and change, then — but she can help those who want hope and change to git ‘r done. Anyone think that pitch is going to persuade when she’s up against someone selling himself as the redeemer of all mankind?

Go read Captain Ed to see how the identity-politics experts deal with a crisis situation like this. Exit question: There is indisputably something good coming out of Obamamania, isn’t there?

Update: The Journal says undeclared Senators are starting to tilt towards Barry O. Plus:

The road may get harder immediately after New Hampshire. The all-important Culinary Workers union in Nevada, the next state to vote on Jan. 19, is considering backing Sen. Obama a day after a New Hampshire win, say some high-ranking Democrats. The support of the state’s largest union by far would virtually hand him a victory in the labor-dominated caucuses there, Democrats say. And the Clinton campaign is considering effectively ceding South Carolina, which votes a week later. Her once-strong support in the state’s large black population eroded and Sen. Obama opened a big lead in polls after Iowa’s caucus results energized many blacks with the prospect that a man of their race stands a realistic chance of being nominated.


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Some people compare one of the other candidates to John F. Kennedy. But he was assassinated.

Ugh. Distasteful in the extreme and a little creepy to boot.

Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 10:23 AM

Fox just had the video on of her making the LBJ/MLK references. She looked and sounded extremely tired.

Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 10:37 AM

…and Keith Olbermann would be breathing into a paper bag.

I just snorted out loud.

Michelle on January 8, 2008 at 10:39 AM

Isnt this what Dick Morris predicted?

JVelez on January 8, 2008 at 10:40 AM

Freeeeeeefallllllllll

shawnwasson on January 8, 2008 at 10:40 AM

But the media is what it is, and no charge of a “climate of hate” emanating from the Clinton godhead to animate deranged gunmen will stick.

I’m still waiting for the MSM to take her to taks for saying he hasn’t done the “Spadework” required to be President. All I hear are crickets.

crazy_legs on January 8, 2008 at 10:41 AM

Some people compare one of the other candidates to John F. Kennedy. But he was assassinated.

Uh, ok…Mildly creepy, somewhat disturbing…

amerpundit on January 8, 2008 at 10:42 AM

Not one Dem can be compared to JFK, he’d blow them all out of the water. At least he wasn’t scared of foreign threats and could use our military.

conservativejack on January 8, 2008 at 10:42 AM

Maybe the Stress is getting to her?

From the sounds of it she sounds like she may actually be going off the deep end. How the heck does she think she be a leader if she can’t even keep her cool?

upinak on January 8, 2008 at 10:43 AM

May she stay in the race until the bitter end. Amen.

Your Jewish Master on January 8, 2008 at 10:43 AM

For a while I actually thought Hillary would be smart enough to regroup some and slowly implement a character assault on Obama that could work…she has the money to hang in long enough that it might make some difference. Instead, she opened her mouth and birthed that little nugget of joy. Ecstacy. I’d enjoy the madness on the left a lot more if the right wasn’t racing headlong to join them.

blankminde on January 8, 2008 at 10:43 AM

Isnt this what Dick Morris predicted?

Dick covered all his bases by predicting every possible out come, last I knew he was telling us Hillary was already president and we just needed to get the formality of an election out of the way.

Kahuna on January 8, 2008 at 10:47 AM

Omabama nix won’t happen on LBJ’s coat-tail. Besides, best not to resurrect the JFK/LBJ bloody feud.

maverick muse on January 8, 2008 at 10:50 AM

i think she is right here, Obama is no MLK and no JFK.

JFK was a war hero, and MLK went through alot more than obama.

zane on January 8, 2008 at 10:50 AM

Wow, LBJ. That’s the last person she should be bringing up to the far-left crowd. She’s got 1 foot on the banana peel.

Tazz 55 on January 8, 2008 at 10:50 AM

HRC is done for

While LBJ is a civil rights icon, and rightly so, the winds of change were blowing quite hard in those times, so I wouldn’t go as far as describing him as a revolutionary.

FLcapitalistthug on January 8, 2008 at 10:53 AM

Not one Dem can be compared to JFK, he’d blow them all out of the water. At least he wasn’t scared of foreign threats and could use our military.

conservativejack on January 8, 2008 at 10:42 AM

Hell, JFK would be one of the more conservative candidates in the Republican field.

jukin on January 8, 2008 at 10:56 AM

Hell, JFK would be one of the more conservative candidates in the Republican field.

jukin on January 8, 2008 at 10:56 AM

bear any burden pay any price…indeed.

zane on January 8, 2008 at 10:59 AM

HRC is DOA at DNC

fogw on January 8, 2008 at 10:59 AM

SECOND LOOK AT TAKING A TIME MACHINE BACK TO THE 60s!

terryannonline on January 8, 2008 at 11:01 AM

The support of the state’s largest union by far would virtually hand him a victory in the labor-dominated caucuses there, Democrats say.

This statement brings up an important point here. This isn’t Republicans voting against Hillary- these are her own people! How on earth does she expect to take a single state that went to GWB in 2004 if she can’t even muster the special interests that bring guaranteed “rat” voting blocs?

highhopes on January 8, 2008 at 11:02 AM

The Hill is getting desperate trying to cast herself in a new image. I agree that comparing herself to:

LBJ. True, he was an “agent of change” in some respects (i.e. civil rights) — but he was also the ultimate Washington insider and, um, infamous for extending and escalating an unpopular war.

isn’t going to help her out.

It must be horrible to see all your planning and conniving of the past 8 years come tumbling down around you. Almost makes you feel sorry for her…. almost.

Luckedout on January 8, 2008 at 11:05 AM

OT

Every satellite feed channel on my cable system is scrambled beyond recognition. Ruh-Roh.

Anyone else experiencing this, or is this just a local snafu?

fogw on January 8, 2008 at 11:08 AM

Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed because of Republicans over the objections of Democrats.

georgealbert on January 8, 2008 at 11:11 AM

Please keep her around long enough so she continues to go after Obama. For the first and last time in my life I am hoping the Clintonistas will uncover something serious enough on Obama to really damage his image so our Candidate doesn’t have to. She won’t be branded as racist but the Republican opponent would be.

I guess hell is freezing over. I pulling for Clinton machine dirty work.

libhater on January 8, 2008 at 11:12 AM

georgealbert on January 8, 2008 at 11:11 AM

Really?
I thought people like Barry Goldwater were against the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

terryannonline on January 8, 2008 at 11:12 AM

Hell, JFK would be one of the more conservative candidates in the Republican field.

jukin on January 8, 2008 at 10:56 AM

Absolutely true. JFK was quite conservative compared to any of our current RINO candidates.

Maxx on January 8, 2008 at 11:12 AM

At this rate I just hope she stays around long enough to do some damage to Obama.

phronesis on January 8, 2008 at 11:13 AM

Hillary just lied when she said that Obama had compared himself to MLK and JFK. I don’t agree with Obama on policy issues but he is a decent person, unlike the Clintons. If the Clintons want to play games, how about Bill Clinton sayin he was America’s “first Black president”? That is downright condescending. How about Hillary’s sickening phony African-American accent that she used ONLY when speaking to African-Americans? That is truly condescending to African-Americans. And the Clintons shunted prominent African-Americans to purely domestic, mostly urban issues during the Clinton administration. The State Department and the NSC and the defense department remained lilly white. And I forgot about all those African-Americans that Clinton appointed to the US Supreme Court. As I recall, Justice Breyer was one of the SOWGYs (same old white guys).

Larraby on January 8, 2008 at 11:15 AM

Last night I poured a little salt on a slug that I found slithering across my back porch. Watching Hillary squirm and scream these past few days reminds me of what that snail did last night as it melted into an oily mess on the concrete. Fun Stuff!

Gartrip on January 8, 2008 at 11:16 AM

If you never had a clue how petty and unprofessional the Libs are, this is crystal clear.

Hening on January 8, 2008 at 11:18 AM

erah, the Torge has been passed to a new generation…. of idiots…

what an incredibly assanine assasination intro by M. Torge…
Hey, thanks Francine for reminding us becasue you know, lots of us weren’t even born then, so we didn’t know JFK was assasinated….

max1 on January 8, 2008 at 11:19 AM

If she is LBJ maybe she’ll escalate a war in east Asia.

sburg57 on January 8, 2008 at 11:20 AM

Isnt this what Dick Morris predicted?

JVelez on January 8, 2008 at 10:40 AM

Dick Morris, while fun to listen to, is usually wrong about everything. I’m pretty sure I recall Dick Morris telling the world that Arnold Schwarzenegger would never be governor of California during the run-up to that election. About a year ago Dick was predicting that Hillary was unstoppable as being our next president.

On the other hand, I’ve never thought Hillary would even get the nomination let alone become president.

Morris is fun to listen to because he has such disdain for the Clintons, but never bet the farm on what Morris has to say.

Maxx on January 8, 2008 at 11:24 AM

She’s LBJ? Does that mean she’s going to hold up Billy Jeff by his ears or show us a scar?

NoFanofLibs on January 8, 2008 at 11:30 AM

The all-important Culinary Workers union in Nevada

So we’ve have to win:

1. The Evangelical Vote
2. The Black Vote
3. The Nevadan Culinary Workers Union Vote

So, aside from non-evangelical conservative white men, which voting bloc isn’t All-Important™ these days?

saint kansas on January 8, 2008 at 11:47 AM

She’s LBJ?

She’s the LBJ of the GLBT set.

saint kansas on January 8, 2008 at 11:50 AM

Indeed, there may be many positive upshots in Obamamania… not the least of which is that racial and identity politics is being turned against Hillary and Bill Clinton, it’s nastiest practitioners.

petefrt on January 8, 2008 at 11:54 AM

Just read a very good article on how Obama has been able to “out Alinsky” Hillary, even though she actually studied at the feet of the radical leftist master:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/obamas_alinsky_jujitsu.html

LegendHasIt on January 8, 2008 at 12:05 PM

The truly weird thing here is Hillary comparing herself implicitly to LBJ. True, he was an “agent of change” in some respects (i.e. civil rights) — but he was also the ultimate Washington insider and, um, infamous for extending and escalating an unpopular war. Is that really the image she wants to pitch to the nutroots and their cohorts?

Not really, however, the nutroots WILL go for comparisons to the LBJ that brought us the “War on Poverty” and Supreme Court Justice Abe Fortas.

Kid from Brooklyn on January 8, 2008 at 12:08 PM

I thought Obama was supposed to be the new Bobby, not John. Of course, Bobby was whacked, too, so maybe it doesn’t make a difference. I do recall seeing a documentary movie that claimed LBJ was responsible for having Kennedy assassinated. I wonder if Hillbilly saw it?

NNtrancer on January 8, 2008 at 12:08 PM

This woman is ambitious and power mad. She feels the presidency is her birthright and will stop at nothing to achieve it. The racial attacks have already started with her “spade” work comment. They will be subtle and allow her wiggle room to get out of it when (if?) the media calls her on it. The woman made up half the stories in her autobiography and wont hesitate to lie about anything. She feels the end justifies the means, and since she KNOWS she is right, she feels morally responsible to take certain liberties with the truth to force her plan on to the great unwashed for their own good.

MBFlyerfan on January 8, 2008 at 12:12 PM

The smell of desperation is in the air

koypop on January 8, 2008 at 12:15 PM

I’m surprised the Clinton machine hasn’t gone after Obama. It’s not as if there’s nothing out there to use against him — like his membership in the black supremacist church. They took a stab at him a few weeks ago — pointing out his less-than-stellar record as a state senator (lots of good for nothing “present” votes — not likely to generate much positive “change” with those, was he?), but there was no follow-up. They need to go after this guy hard, but they seem to be afraid to do it. With the media fawning all over Obama like he’s the second coming, and with so many voters buying into the media hype, it’s now or never time for the Clintons. The meek may inherit the earth, but they aren’t going to win any elections.

AZCoyote on January 8, 2008 at 12:28 PM

The smell of desperation is in the air

Yeah, I smell that anytime I see Bill and Hillary in the same room together.

saint kansas on January 8, 2008 at 12:31 PM

I said many moons ago that Obama and his family need to watch their backs. I wasn’t kidding.

SouthernGent on January 8, 2008 at 12:31 PM

Obama to Hillary: You’re no MILK

windansea on January 8, 2008 at 12:35 PM

Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed because of Republicans over the objections of Democrats.

georgealbert on January 8, 2008 at 11:11 AM

True! People forget that Dr. King was a Republican and that the Civil Rights Act was started under the Eisenhower administration. LBJ, as Senate Majority Leader, stripped the bill of any enforcable criminal provisions.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16500

Wileygrl3 on January 8, 2008 at 12:39 PM

i would prefer hillary in the race, she is unelectable…but obama the socialist scares me.

moseby on January 8, 2008 at 12:40 PM

(with apologies to Tom Petty)

She’s a bad witch, loves her image,
Loves guv’ment, and socialism too.
She’s a bad witch, crazy ’bout power,
Loves bossing and her girlfriend too.

It’s a long day campaignin’ in ‘Hampshire
There’s a freeway runnin’ through her heart,
And he’s a bad boy, name of Obama,
He’s a bad boy for stealin’ her dream.
And she’s free, free fallin’
And she’s free, free fallin’

All the media walkin’ through campaigns
They move over to Obama town
And all the bad boys are pickin’ the black guy
And the good girls are likin’ him toooooo

And she’s free, free fallin’
And she’s free, free fallin’.

I wanna watch down in South Carolina,
I wanna see her name come in last.
I wanna free life with no more Clintons
Their time in power will be past.

And I’ll be free, I’m free fallin’
And I’m free, I’m free fallin’
And I’m free, I’m free fallin’
And I’m free, I’m free fallin’

Sloan Morganstern on January 8, 2008 at 12:42 PM

Wow. This is almost too painful to watch. The Clintons must be desperate to throw this stuff out there. I almost feel sorry for them.

infidel65 on January 8, 2008 at 12:45 PM

I thought people like Barry Goldwater were against the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

terryannonline on January 8, 2008 at 11:12 AM

Friend, I don’t mean to be obnoxious but please educate yourself on the facts regarding the CRA. There was an excuse for “minorities”–especially conservative ones–not to know this stuff before the Information era. There isn’t now.

baldilocks on January 8, 2008 at 12:58 PM

Critics of Republican Sen. Barry Goldwater, who ran for President against Johnson in 1964, ignore the fact that Goldwater wanted to force the Democrats in the South to stop passing discriminatory laws and thus end the need to continuously enact federal civil rights legislation.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16500

Wileygrl3 on January 8, 2008 at 1:13 PM

If there was anything damaging the Clintons could dig up on Obama it would be out there by now. The Clintons are going to crash and burn and Barry Obama will be the next president of this country. That’s when things will get very interesting.

This is what you get for sending your kids to left wing colleges. They’ve been brainwashed to eat up Socialism with a spoon and to love every bite.

UnEasyRider on January 8, 2008 at 1:16 PM

The fact that the other Dem candidates (Silky, Shrill) are all trying to jump on Barack’s “change” message now just makes them look like desperate hacks. Barack’s message is resonating, and he is an incredible speaker who can always get them “riled up”, and Silky and Hill just aren’t going to be able to do that by being copycats. It will turn people off. Also Barack has turned this election into a “positivity” campaign. People like him, he is all about good vibes and hope. Watching Hillary attack him only makes her seem jealous, desperate and mean and focuses her campaign on negativity which will turn people off. If all you can do is bash someone for their “inexperience” or “great rhetoric, wanting record”, what are you bringing the table? People want a positive campaign. I think people are supporting Barack because he seems more interested in ideas and dreams than personal ambition or self-preservation. And listening to John Edwards sprinkle the word “change” 34867256 times in all his speeches now makes him just look like a cheap Barack imitation who showed up late. At this point Hillary is not going to be able to try to halt Barack’s rise by attacking him. Especially considering the titanic Clinton political machine of which she’s at the helm, the fact that she hasn’t been able to knock him down just shows how remarkable what’s happening with Barack is.

mattyj86 on January 8, 2008 at 1:35 PM

O. Hussein O.
Experience!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/21615320@N06/2091715582/

awesum on January 8, 2008 at 1:47 PM

clinton is threatening to assasinate obama. it’s an idle tghreat, possibly, but that’s the scare tactic she’s using.

jummy on January 8, 2008 at 1:52 PM

I had placed myself with the “Anyone but Clinton” camp for President. I’ve joined another group to be safe. It’s the “Anyone but Clinton for Vice-President” camp.

Join both. It’s necessary. I have a sneaking suspicion that Obama will make Hillary the VP on the ticket due to pressure from the DNC and the all the old Democratic Machine money that is already inside the Clinton campaign coffers. Ergo, Obama will raise money, but in order to tap into all the Hillcash he will have to offer her a position of stature within a potential Obama administration.

gabriel sutherland on January 8, 2008 at 2:00 PM

Did someone at an Obama rally introducing him, mention that LBJ died of a massive heart attack soon after leaving office, or is that just my special imagination?

President Barrack Obama………get used to the taste of it in your mouth folks.

ThePrez on January 8, 2008 at 2:09 PM

In defense of Hillary, it *DID* take LBJ, not JFK, to pass the 1964 Civil Rights Bill. And LBJ did it by reaching across the aisle to Republican Senators, and cajoling members of his own party who were very reluctant. Southern Democrats by and large were solidly behind segregation.

If all it took was a campaign of civil disobediance and speeches, the Civil Rights Act would have been passed after the Montgomery Bus Boycott ended in 1956 (Rosa Parks). Dr. King’s bravery was not enough — it took a professional pol in the White House willing to go all out to do it. LBJ has a lot of bad marks but IMHO deserves credit where it’s due.

Obama is getting a lot of play now because people feel “safe.” The NYT had a link to this story on one of their caucus blogs, commenter after commenter talked about “fear mongering.”

The world IS a dangerous place. Pakistan could go belly up for Osama any moment. Iran light off a nuke or sink a US warship. Kenya devolve into Somalia South. Another mass casualty terror attack here or abroad. Obama has in response to any of that — West Wing style speeches. In times of crisis people want a tough guy. Not “President Bartlett” rushing around Aaron Sorkin style.

Hillary was the toughest candidate the Dems had in the general, because people figured she’d pull the trigger if she had to. Obama would hug someone. In the general election that’s a disaster. Because a crisis *somewhere* is sure to come.

whiskey_199 on January 8, 2008 at 3:10 PM

LOL at the freefalin lyrics

woot

Drunk Report on January 8, 2008 at 5:29 PM

baldilocks on January 8, 2008 at 12:58 PM

Hey baldilocks,

I’ll be honest I haven’t read extensively on the CRA.
Probably the truth is that both parties Dems and Republicans had supporters of Civil Rights Act and also segregationist. It’s probably not fair that either party claim they have a clean civil rights legacy. The media, however, does make it was the Dems are the party of civil rights.

terryannonline on January 8, 2008 at 7:45 PM

“Hillary to Obama: You’re no MLK — although I might be LBJ”

That reminds me: I want a PBJ, and PDQ too.

Kevin M on January 9, 2008 at 3:38 AM