Video: Fred debuts on the Factor; Video: Fred needs money
posted at 9:18 pm on January 7, 2008 by Bryan
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The Fred has already vacated New Hampshire, where he’s likely to get beat by Ron Paul, and will skip Michigan and Nevada to make his stand in South Carolina. That’s where Huckabee is currently turning into a juggernaut. Fred has a tough battle ahead but he does have until the 19th of January (all of a fortnight) to make his case. Maybe taking up residence in South Carolina while the rest of the candidates fight out other states will turn out to be a good move, but he’ll be in the hole on delegates by the time of the primary and the world is likely to be talking about Obamania by then. Either that, or “Whatever happened to Obama?”
So tonight we find Fred on the Factor, making his first appearance there. His wife Jeri appeared on the show once before and acquitted herself well, but this is Fred. He did fine. He gets the big picture right and makes the case for himself as the only authentic and consistent conservative in the race. No flubs on Pakistan, and he injects realism into the debate over what we can and should or shouldn’t do about the instability there (hint: He doesn’t agree with Bill Richardson). And there isn’t a lot more to say. Fred’s running an unorthodox campaign, partly out of strategy and partly out of financial necessity. I’d like to see him stay in the race if only to keep tugging it to the right. In a saner world Fred would have raised $20 million in the last quarter and Ron Paul would be worried about gassing up the bus. But that isn’t the world we live in.
Update (AP): Calling all ‘Heads — dude needs some coin.
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infidel on January 7, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Always. Well, mostly. Actually, occasionally. lol
csdeven on January 7, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Straight answer. Yes. The congress has been clamoring to get the AWB back in business, and it nearly passed last time. With an anti-gun president, we start back towards the Brady Bill days. You know, the days gun control increased, and gun crime increased as a result of it? In forty-eight states it is possible to obtain a concealed carry permit, as well as open carry without being charged with disorderly conduct. Only Wisconsin and Illinois are refusing. If the president waves through another AWB, the 2nd will go back to the SCOTUS, and soon states will start questioning their own 2nd amendment ratifications.
I want a country safe from islamic nutbags, AND safe from government ones too.
MadisonConservative on January 7, 2008 at 10:16 PM
So true. Fred is running against liberals, though they claim to be Republicans.
TCJ on January 7, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Like I said days ago, Fred needs to stay in just to keep the field on the right. It’s too bad Fred didn’t keep it going, but maybe, like you said, he was just a rookie at this and next time he will do better.
csdeven on January 7, 2008 at 10:18 PM
Now that is something I had not considered! Bartender! Buy that man a drink, and put it on cdseven’s tab!
thejackal on January 7, 2008 at 10:18 PM
I’ve done my part with several donations. Fingers crossed that SC Evangelicals will see that this man will represent them far better than Huckabee.
joewm315 on January 7, 2008 at 10:18 PM
I’m going to try and find a telephone number or email address and contact him. If he wants to stay in the race, he has to talk with this audience! (wish me luck!)
Zorro on January 7, 2008 at 10:19 PM
MM shows that a person can be conservative and be passionate and have style. IE: Boo fricken Hoo. She rarely uses it, but it still carries weight. Fred should take a lesson.
csdeven on January 7, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Ok, my bad. I thought you had been with Fred all along.
csdeven on January 7, 2008 at 10:20 PM
Hm. I’ll have to look at that then. btw Wisconsin and Illinois? What is wrong with those losers?
Spirit of 1776 on January 7, 2008 at 10:22 PM
Like I’ve said many times before, I don’t think the evangelicals are as solid behind Huck as is portrayed. It doesn’t sit right. He only got half the evangelical vote in Iowa, and for a guy whose candidacy was portrayed as being wholly built out of the conservative evangelical base, I would of thought he could carry at least 65 to 70%.
Weight of Glory on January 7, 2008 at 10:23 PM
It’s alright. It has been a very very long election cycle!
Weight of Glory on January 7, 2008 at 10:24 PM
Can you tell us what is and is not a “special interest group”? Maybe give us some examples?
Oh, and the people who donate to PACS, do they have inalienable rights?
Buy Danish on January 7, 2008 at 10:25 PM
Only an Alpha can be as magnanimous as this. Well, that or maybe a beta who is freaked out by the prospect of Huck ‘08.
Spirit of 1776 on January 7, 2008 at 10:26 PM
Frankly, I would rather have a candidate who does not appear to be grasping for power. I think that is the appeal of Obama and Fred, and a drawback to Hillary, Mitt, Guiliani and McCain.
Fred will most likely not make it, and South Carolina appears to be turning to Huck. However, Fred will be sorely missed when the conventions come and we will have nuanced immigration policy, nuanced tax policy, nuanced foreign policy experience, which could describe some of the issues confronting parts of the positions of the rest of the candidates.
Starlink on January 7, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Oh, lord…the Fredgasms on the fateful day when it’s posted!
SouthernGent on January 7, 2008 at 10:27 PM
She’s been pretty tough on him on her site.
conservnut on January 7, 2008 at 10:27 PM
I’m curious if Bryan knows more about that theory batted around the other day re: Warren and Huck. That’s a big and effective network.
Spirit of 1776 on January 7, 2008 at 10:27 PM
AlexB on January 7, 2008 at 10:12 PM
There’s a huge difference with what McCain did and what might be available for Thompson. When this thing starts, it happens real quick.
It’s like golf, you can take all the time you want to before you swing, but when you actually make contact it is only a fraction of a second.
McCain was down BEFORE this started. This is a momentum game. One thing that is good about this year is that people will learn more about the process to select our president. This happens like this every cycle, but people don’t pay much attention. This year a lot of people are paying attention so they’ll ‘get it’ next time around.
It happens fast. That’s why Huck is so appealing now. He’s up NOW, not 3 months ago, not 3 months from now. That’s why he’s doing so well. There’s no way that Thompson can do what McCain did now. He NEEDED Iowa. He NEEDED to win. He NEEDED New Hampshire. He NEEDED to do well in New Hampshire.
He didn’t understand that. It’s too late now. It’s wait til next year now. Huckabee is going to win SC now mainly because of Iowa. Huckabee is going to win Michigan if Romney doesn’t win New Hampshire BECAUSE of Iowa.
Iowa is important, New Hampshire is important. Fred didn’t recognize that - McCain did. Fred will lose.
ThackerAgency on January 7, 2008 at 10:27 PM
Agreed. I know it’s trivial, but I found that somewhat profound.
NJGOPOrphan on January 7, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Bryan, thank you for another good post. It’s nice to see some thought put into a Fred post on HotAir.com.
I will donate to Fred. I want to see more of him. I want him to keep the debates crisp, on topic and clear.
Montana on January 7, 2008 at 10:28 PM
Fredhead here…. Sending donation.
Must agree that he is running against both the Democrat party and the Republic party, as well. Sadly, no typos here… Well, unless typos has an “e” in it. (Quayle reference noted and laughable, as is this current batch of candidates.)
Gunny on January 7, 2008 at 10:28 PM
You may be right. Lord knows the MSM never steered me right before.
I will tell you this: I spent some time at Camp Lejeune, NC, and the slow talking demeanor people claim makes Thompson lazy or stupid is just how people talk in many rural parts of the South. I would interrupt people so often because I got tired of waiting for an anecdote to end. It took awhile before I learned that those people were just as intelligent, many of them more so, than I. So the “Fred is lazy” mantra won’t play down there, and people will be able to listen to what he is saying instead of how he says it.
joewm315 on January 7, 2008 at 10:29 PM
The latest SC Rasmussen poll will not help the Fredheads. Fred tumbles in SC, McCain in 2nd! OUCH!
SouthernGent on January 7, 2008 at 10:30 PM
Tell me about it. Lived here my whole life and can’t figure out why one of the biggest hunting states in the country won’t allow people to carry short guns without the cops charging you with “mayhem”.
MadisonConservative on January 7, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Some of you here clearly need to be FREDucated.
With Fred the Reagan Coalition is safe. With anyone else, especially McCain, Rudy or the Huckster, and we SETTLE for more liberalism. We don’t need any more of that stuff. It will leave a mark.
ReaganConservative3 on January 7, 2008 at 10:32 PM
I had not thought of that. You are probably right.
Weight of Glory on January 7, 2008 at 10:34 PM
csdeven’s concept of a campaign is narrow. He has no eenergy? How so? Because he has a southern drawl? Because he wants to talk about real issues in a real debate versus do aerobics at the behest of the csdevens or Iowa School Marms?
I personally do not want a candidate hopped up on no-doz.
I see Fred Thompson as closer to real American politics than any of the 24/7 Cable News candidates who are more impressed with the appearance of energy than substance.
What lacks energy is csdeven and Allahpundit’s critiques of Thompson.
Montana on January 7, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Good one, better copyright that!
conservnut on January 7, 2008 at 10:34 PM
Well, I know nothing about that network. While I was at Liberty University, me and the guys in the religion department never really took the Warren stuff seriously. Looking back, maybe we should have paid more attention to it. oh well.
Weight of Glory on January 7, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Email to Fred sent. I’ll look for a telephone number tomorrow. Time to hit the rack.
Zorro on January 7, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Something I find odd, if you look at the RCP (Real Clear Politics)poll average chart, you see a sharp spike for Huckabee (goes with positive media attention) and then McCain spikes (again with media attention). This is a media driven primary, the MSM is going to pick the next Rep nominee weather you like it or not. Are the media shooting for a brockered convention and a split in the party? Don’t know, but sure wouldn’t shock me. Keep an eye on that as we move through the primarys.
RJS2 on January 7, 2008 at 10:37 PM
And sorry for the serial posts…
But who annointed Political Polls as words from God? The same people who ran the polls showing John Kerry far ahead of G.W.Bush? Hmm?
People–let’s try to raise the discourse above talking heads and pollsters, or professional spinners or regional elitists. Let’s allow the candidates to debate. Let’s allow them to make their case. Then let’s vote.
Pundits and Pollsters are fun and sometimes informing but the more attention they get, the more they feel they deserve the spotlight over the candidates.
Montana on January 7, 2008 at 10:37 PM
South Carolina is the new Alamo for Fred.
I REALLY like this guy. He is so real. It’s just refreshing to see and hear. Time to send Fred some more coin.
…he picked Hillary? Hmm…
Mojave Mark on January 7, 2008 at 10:37 PM
If Fred bombs in SC then it’s FIRST LOOK AT RUDY!
sonnyspats1 on January 7, 2008 at 10:37 PM
I am glad you asked. How about I give you just one:
LABOR UNIONS
And many people that give to those mafia bastarrds do it involuntarily.
TheSitRep on January 7, 2008 at 10:39 PM
You went to Liberty, Weight? Man that University has grown. It’s quite the legacy for Falwell. I went to wrestling camp there in the 80’s, and to boarding school in Lynchburg for a year. I can hardly recognize it now.
ThackerAgency on January 7, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Great point and I remember that stat. Thanks for putting it back into the debate. There is hope for Fred in SC.
csdeven on January 7, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Oh god, Susan “Lack O Estrogen” is on Fox right now!
Barf
conservnut on January 7, 2008 at 10:45 PM
As much as I resent saying it, I saw this segment on the O’Factor and thought Fred was pretty respectable. How could he not after Bill cajoled his wife into getting him on? Nevertheless, I have to admit he actually impressed me. Not enough to declare myself a “Fredhead”, but I at least have a measure of respect for him I haven’t had thus far.
thedecider on January 7, 2008 at 10:46 PM
I sent Fred some coin in honor of my newly obtained HotAir commenting priviledges.
MsDollie on January 7, 2008 at 10:46 PM
Slowly converting you guys. We will make a Fredhead out of cs before we are through ;-)
conservnut on January 7, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Yeah! I don’t even recognize it anymore. They all have nice shiny new dorms and everything. When I was there all they had were the “temporary” dorms from the early 80’s.
Weight of Glory on January 7, 2008 at 10:48 PM
What is wrong with evangelicals nationwide??? I am an evangelical but I am not going to support a former pastor who is clueless on foreign policy in an election where foreign policy experience is more important than ever. They are acting like the stereotypical one issue voters that liberals paint them as and its pathetic. If you are going to vote for a moderate Republican that has liberal tendencies then vote for McCain. Huckabee is a waste of a vote because he is unelectable. If you want a conservative who is socially and fiscally conservative, then vote for Fred Thompson. This fascination with Huckabee is sad.
UKFB2 on January 7, 2008 at 10:49 PM
I love y’alls devotion to Fred. But if this poll was an outlier I’d agree with you. However, it’s tell-tale of an ominous trend for Fred. I wish it wasn’t true becasue Fred has almost convinced me to change my vote from Rudy.
SouthernGent on January 7, 2008 at 10:49 PM
MSM, Pollsters and Consultants are making every attempt to manipulate the elections. It is refreshing to see Fred, who is a good communicator, attempt to bypass the media and speak directly to the people(You Tube, Etc). That’s what I liked about Reagan. Fred doesn’t talk in sound bites.
I am bewildered by the “focus group” comments and I wonder how much of it is just “getting on TV”.
Rawhide on January 7, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Which candidates are doing aerobics? None are, except Hillary and her crying fits. Can you rationally explain why Fred has done nothing except lose support since the moment he announced?
I’d rather lack energy in my critiques than the lack of reality in your critiques.
csdeven on January 7, 2008 at 10:51 PM
Tommy Thompson shilling for Rudy on Fox.
csdeven on January 7, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Proof! Fox isn’t a right bias channel and is in fact the most balanced news available..even though O’R says so, Huckabee is not a Conservative.
Speakup on January 7, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Fred!’s message should have gone something like this:
Folks, I’m asking you tonight to donate to my campaign. As you know ALL of the other canidates have been talking about change. As you also know, I don’t think we need to change America, so much as put her back on the correct path again. I’m asking you to send in your change to my campaign, piggy bank change, pocket change, the change that’s sitting in your car, under the cushions of your sofa. This is the kind of change that will make a difference. Thank you, Fred08.
RJS2 on January 7, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Your sentiment and statement, and what Bryan has written, and what my friends and family have said, is exactly why I think the credit of Huck’s rise being placed at the feet of the evangelical voter is not exactly right. Don’t get me wrong, I know he does have a lot of support from that part of the base, but I dont think it is as big as many think it is. We will see.
Weight of Glory on January 7, 2008 at 10:55 PM
If it takes me sending $2300 to Fred to keep that narcissist Huck out of the Oval office, I wont hesitate one second.
csdeven on January 7, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Zorro on January 7, 2008 at 10:19 PM
I’ve already been to the fred08 site and left that message through their contact message center.
maxine on January 7, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Hopefully being from NJ will give me a little moral authority here, but people’s attitude towards Fred’s mannerisms and such makes me assume he should especially bug folks like me, but I find it all quite refreshing. There’s depth to what he says and it speaks to me immensely. I think Romney is very competent, sharp, has a great command of speech and the issues, but he seems a bit canned and largly typical of a pol. Go Fred!
NJGOPOrphan on January 7, 2008 at 10:57 PM
You will be required to produce a receipt.
Speakup on January 7, 2008 at 10:58 PM
You da man!
conservnut on January 7, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Someone once said that she sounds like Katherine Hepburn on crack.
That’s a start, but it’s a very, very long list and you have barely scratched the surface. In fact, you may not realize it but you may very well be a member of a special interest group yourself.
I have to run, but I’ll check in tomorrow to see how that list is coming :-)
Buy Danish on January 7, 2008 at 10:58 PM
sorry Fred. you came in TOO LATE.
not to the race. to the Factor.
Take too long to talk to Bill O’Reilly and you lose my support, BUSTER.
Richard Bushnell on January 7, 2008 at 10:58 PM
My only complaint about Fred! is that he isn’t coming out like a lion. He had momentum over the summer, and it started to fade away. For a time, he was talked about on the news shows, now he’s reduced to a second thought or occasional mention. It’s not necessarily Fred’s fault, there are other candidates on both sides of the aisle that are barely mentioned, but it would seem to me that the campaign managers ought to be doing something to get Fred! and the others more face time.
I’m a Fredhead and proud of it, but I think that Thompson, Tancredo, Richardson, Paul, Kucinich, Keyes, and etc ought to have done something to rise above bare mentions in the public spotlight. Now that I feel slightly ill from saying that even the opposition should get more viewing time, I think that all candidates ought to get seen for public inspection. This just furthers the ideals of democracy for a nation that wants to spread it abroad.
How many people know every single candidate that is/was in this election? How many people know what each candidate stands for? To further prove a point, ask any average person if they know who Joe Biden, Alan Keyes, Chris Dodd, or Sam Brownback is. Crackpots, losers, bad choice, or no money, all of them should have had equal face time in the media. It’s kind of frustrating to look at the media darlings and not find anyone truly worth voting for because only a fraction of the contenders are given screen time.
I just hope someone lights a fire under Fred’s butt and gets him really making some noise.
Honoris Causa…
Silverblade on January 7, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Fred THompson not the Republican candidate?
This is why I will throw away my vote.
The Republican party has lost my vote for a while.
msipes on January 7, 2008 at 11:01 PM
Someone help me out… When did O’Reilly start running? Was Fred his backer?
upinak on January 7, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Welcome.
Fred!
infidel on January 7, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Heh!
Weight of Glory on January 7, 2008 at 11:03 PM
If your interested in positions, the American Conservative Union has them on their web site. Good Read however some would not answer, wonder why?
Rawhide on January 7, 2008 at 11:04 PM
My friends, come close, and embrace the saved.
MadisonConservative on January 7, 2008 at 11:06 PM
Fred is 1/2 way to his fundraising goal
http://fred08.com/index.aspx
bnelson44 on January 7, 2008 at 11:07 PM
Fredmentunlanchewootinfinityplus™ !
larkydozer on January 7, 2008 at 11:09 PM
What I meant was…
Fredmentumlanchewootinfinityplus™
larkydozer on January 7, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Slowly converting you guys. We will make a Fredhead out of cs before we are through ;-)
conservnut on January 7, 2008 at 10:48 PM
I’ll buy drinks for everyone if that happens—and I don’t even drink.
maxine on January 7, 2008 at 11:11 PM
bnelson44 on January 7, 2008 at 11:07 PM
My wife and I just signed up today to help with his campaign here in Spring, TX.
Weight of Glory on January 7, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Good Job Fred! Ask and “ye shall receive”. You gotta speak up if you need something no matter who you are. Fred aint doing too bad in his new fund raiser. Over 250K so far.
Nelsa on January 7, 2008 at 11:12 PM
Ok that’s overreaching, but thanks for playing.
conservnut on January 7, 2008 at 11:13 PM
Hey Weight, I’m in Conroe!
conservnut on January 7, 2008 at 11:14 PM
If Republicans are really going to nominate McCain to run then there is absolutely no place for conservatives in the GOP. Honestly, I’m starting to wonder the same thing about Republicans nominating Huckabee, Giuliani, and Romney. These are all guys who love big bloated governments and love governments that intrude and pry into our lives. They also love free markets much more than the peasants they have to pander to every few years to keep in office. None of that is conservative. Do you think Reagan or Goldwater would have smirked and told us it was great when American corporations shipped our manufacturing power overseas, much of it to our enemies? I sure as hell don’t! We wouldn’t have seen Ronnie’s administration selling off our own infrastructure to foreign companies either! Fred Thompson, Tom Tancredo, and Duncan Hunter are not Ronald Reagan but they are the only candidates we have that are anywhere close to what he stood for.
I’m still surprised that Fox news didn’t just ban Fred from their debates and forum too, that way we could have had the Democrat debates and the Democrat Lite debates. I love it when the media works so hard to decide who our next President will be. Never before has “we the people” meant so little.
Buzzy on January 7, 2008 at 11:14 PM
HA! Small world. My wife likes to go to the outlets there.
Weight of Glory on January 7, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Katy,Tx
Rawhide on January 7, 2008 at 11:15 PM
I’ve tried to avoid thinking it, but I wonder how much influence Jeri has had on campaign strategy. I know there were some problems with that at in the initial stages, but thought she had been moved away from the planning aspect. It does seem they may have tried to be too cute. I’m afraid Rudy might also find out that unconventional approaches don’t work out well.
a capella on January 7, 2008 at 11:16 PM
It’s just a little “around Houston World” huh
conservnut on January 7, 2008 at 11:16 PM
All of you who are second-guessing your choice of Huckabee or Romney need to take a look at Fred Thompson. It’s still early, because of the nature of this particular race.
frode on January 7, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Heh! she also likes the Katy Mills mall. I just realized, my knowledge of the Houston area revolves around my wife’s shopping habits. (sigh)
Weight of Glory on January 7, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Fred had a good reception when he visited Houston earlier
Rawhide on January 7, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Hey! Was there a tilted cross on the lamp shade? I sure hope Fred can bleed off some common sense evangelicals from Huck.
csdeven on January 7, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Let me guess… you are for ru paul and was mad when he wasn’t allowed on Fox?
upinak on January 7, 2008 at 11:22 PM
I remember that. 740 KTRH was playing it every half hour. I think he’ll do well here. I’m new to the area, but Fred seems like the kind of guy that can go a long way here.
Weight of Glory on January 7, 2008 at 11:23 PM
yep, this is Fred Country. He will take Texas if he is still in when we finally get to vote.
conservnut on January 7, 2008 at 11:24 PM
On substance Fred has always done well. And like he does here he seems very comfortable one on one. But in debates like the FNC “forum” last night, especially positioned close to the more politically skilled candidates like Huck and Mitt, he appeared outclassed - even though, on substance he did well. I guess it takes a different set of skills to be a politician than and to be an actor.
regulus22 on January 7, 2008 at 11:24 PM
This guy needs money too.
sonnyspats1 on January 7, 2008 at 11:25 PM
I thought it was a really good interview. I loved how Fred stuck to his guns on Pakistan against know-it-all (and wrong) Bill.
He was on message and did really well tonight. I was very happy to see an interview with him on O’R finally. And just plain happy to see Fred out there :)
GO FRED!!
-Aslan’s Girl
Aslans Girl on January 7, 2008 at 11:25 PM
When are you Houston-istas gonna push Paul’s district into the Gulf?
…….
O’Reilly………yikes! Fred runs afoul of the Grand Reaganclintonmccaingoldwaterliebermanpoobah.
Stick with SC Fred. Use the cash you are getting and start
poking out eyes and knocking out teeth. Enough of ‘I’ll cut your taxes’ stuff. We KNOW that. That is a given for the ‘real conservative’. You want the press to give you more coverage….then drag Cynthia McKinney up to the podium and WWF her all the way back to the exit door.
Taxes and Social Security….we GET it. You have us in your pocket over that, but talking taxes and SS is putting the average Joe voter to sleep.
Limerick on January 7, 2008 at 11:26 PM
But any common sense evangelical would never take a second look at Huck would they?
csdeven on January 7, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Another point is . . . do youreally think Fred would tell him what his plan for Pakistan would be and show his cards?
Rawhide on January 7, 2008 at 11:27 PM
Fred had better be our nominee. Period. End of sentence. Last call. Doneski.
Seriously, if the republican nominee is a liberal, what’s the point? Of the 5 we got left I could only support Romney behind Fred. How the heck do we end up with a real conservative, a belated conservative, and 3 squish RINOs? Maybe I’ve never properly understood America. Maybe. I hope I’m wrong. Go Fred.
VolMagic on January 7, 2008 at 11:31 PM
If only Chuck Norris backed Fred Thompson, then there would truly be a force to be reckoned with! Think of all the new variations of Chuck and Fred jokes that could be made!
“What is under Chuck Norris’ beard?”
“Fred Thompson, and he comes out to surprise strangle a hippie AND punch a terrorist.”
Honoris Causa…
Silverblade on January 7, 2008 at 11:35 PM
We are trying, believe me. I don’t understand those people down there.
conservnut on January 7, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Anybody want to see a whiner, Ron Paul in on with Jay Leno.
infidel on January 7, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Dude. Fred/Limerick ‘08!
Spirit of 1776 on January 7, 2008 at 11:40 PM
Fred’s problem is all of the people who say, “I would vote for Fred if I thought he had a real shot” and then don’t vote for him because they think he doesn’t have a real shot. If everyone who agreed with him on all of his policy positions decided for themselves to go with him, he’d be way ahead. It’s like The Gift of The Magi: I’m doing what I think you want and you’re doing what you think I want and we both end up losing out. I’m not voting for Fred because I think you’re not, and you’re not because you think I’m not, when we both want to.
LickyLicky on January 7, 2008 at 11:45 PM
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