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I was watching the Catholic network EWTN and they were talking about Fred as if he has been pro-choice for years. And I’m pretty sure he confounded a lot of evangelicals by saying he wouldn’t support an amendment to ban abortion. I think he may need to clear this up, if he is really pro-life.
I’ve been hoping Fred would respond to the defibulators zapping incessantly across his chest. Apparently his undertaker hasn’t put enough embalming fluid in to jack him up. I shiver thinking about the weak choices apparent so far in the conservative pack. Oh that another like Ronald R would come along. Frankly, Lieberman would be my alternative to what’s there now if he were in the race.
Now back to guns, he has stated that he would NOT seek any new laws against guns, you anti-Rudy people can chill already…
Oh, he ’stated’ that. Does that make up for taking action SUING gun manufacturers (American companies no less)? I don’t think so. And you call evangelicals ’stupid’. The NRA won’t endorse him and that makes a big difference to the R party and conservatives (or it used to). Name ONE other R who has sued the gun manufacturers and I’ll give it a pass.
He used the government to act as a bully against citizens and a legal company. Now that he SAYS he won’t do it again, he’s your guy. GREAT!
Yes. The Huckabee phenomenon is trickier than just evangelicals. I spent an hour on Youtube listening to Huckabee on gay issues (or whatever else I happened to run into.)thuja on January 7, 2008 at 11:57 PM
Wow! I never thought that I’d see the day when Rush is acting like the very “drive-by media” that he so consistenlty chastises. I hear alot of gross generalizations and characterizations about Mr. Huck; however I have yet to see the “relentless pursuit of the truth”, as he so often touts during his bump-ins. I personally have not made up my mind about Huck, but it sure is tiring to hear alot of folks who criticize him without taking their arguments beyond name calling (ie: 95% of those posting at this site.)I know that someone out there has a well-thought out argument that is actually punctuated with some real-live facts…and I’m certaintly NOT referring to Ms. Coulter!
What? Rush support Rudy? OK, the scandalous personal life is a match, but Rudy’s professional scandals, sanctuary city & pro-abortion record reveal a liberal.
I have this process figured out, but it seems as though most of the posters here have ‘evangelicals’ figured out And they figured out that these people are ’stupid, naive, not conservative, evil’.
ThackerAgency on January 7, 2008 at 11:51 PM
Well yeah.
They’re voting for Huckabee, so what should I think?
and before anyone gets mad remember, I agree with you on most policy matters.
I think it depends on the market. I am not sure how Rush plays in Iowa, but rural or not, it is a yankee liberal state. I don’t figure he has a big following there.
But in the rest of flyover country I think he still has some weight among conservatives
As a Catholic, I have to compromise in this race. If I go with identity politics, then I’d be voting for Keyes. Why can’t evangelicals compromise as well? We’re electing a president, not a pastor.
darii on January 7, 2008 at 11:45 PM
I’m a Baptist!
And I’m voting for RUDY!
And I don’t feel like i’m compromising ANYTHING!
He’s the best candidate period!
He could have pulled a Mitt Romney After he left office and said that he suddenly had an epiphany on being Pro-Choice so that he could be the best Pander-in-Chief..
But, Rudy has REAL positions NOT platitudes.
And that give the man CREDIBILITY and TRUST with me..
I do not trust Huck, Mitt or Fred.. sorry..
If you read the Brody Files.. you will see that fred once didn’t really even think that abortion should even be in the party platform.. so, whats all the pandering for now then?
I trust Rudy on the Judges, he has the BEST Judicial advisory board in the business.
do you think NH represents the rest of the country?
He never planned on getting 1% in NH, lol..
Its all about SC for Fred, if you paid any attention to it, you’d know that..also, hes made more money in the last 3 days than hes made in a good while. Over halfway to his goal for ad buys across SC.. It’s not over for Fred, and once people acually see he is really the only true conservative in the bunch, it should get better…
Its all about timing, and a little luck, you never know what other things may happen along the way to help his cause
AP, DUDE! Wheres the NH vote thread? Dixville Notch is casting their votes right now!!
csdeven on January 8, 2008 at 12:02 AM
Geeze, thank you I completely forgot. I’ve been sucked into a Hot Air black hole tonight. I’ve shut out the outside world and lost track of time, until you reminded me. Thanks!
Republicans like to say that they want a “Reagan conservative”. They say they respect substance over style. They are critical of politicians who crave power for power’s sake. They say they want someone who will let his conservative core guide him in every decision. Then they are given a choice and low and behold, they go for the guy who “looks presidential” (Mitt). Or they assign the label of “conservative” to their guy, no matter that his entire history in elective office runs counter to traditional Reagan conservatism (Mitt, Rudy, Huck, and McCain). They say things like “Fred is right on the issues but he runs a sorry campaign, is lazy, has a bad fitting suit, etc,” as a result they throw their support to one of the RINO’s.
It’s a sad time to be a Republican.
The very sad FACT is that the current breed of “Christian conservatives” (the Hucksters) would support Jimmy Carter over Ronald Reagan. The James Dobsons’ of the world will split the conservative wing of the party and insure a RINO or a Democrat will be our next president. As a result enormous damage will be done to both the conservative and evangelical wings of the party. We will be represented for years to come by the Rockefeller/Ford/Guliani/Chafee/Bloomburg/Specter/Pataki/G.H.W.Bush/Romney, country-club wing of the party. The social/moral issues the evangelicals care so much about will be forever put on the back-burner. So too will the economic, 2nd Amendment, judicial, national security, and personal liberty issues that REAL conservatives care about. We will be a lesser country as a result.
If you are a Republican and you truely care about the conservative movement, you should get behind Fred before it’s too late.
Ditto. I can’t understand the appeal of this guy. He doesn’t understand the most important issues of our day. He wants to be credited for getting his principles right instead of getting the facts straight. He won’t answer direct questions on policy. He is an ignorant snake oil salesman as far as I can tell.
Working for the Huckabee campaign doesn’t work here.
We smell rats 100 miles away.
Go here to swear under an oath of penalty of perjury that you are not a implant. Only then will we think about putting you on parole instead of banning you.
You know, I am an evangelical, and the more I see of Huckabee, the more he scares me.
I watched the debate on Sunday night and the amount of disingenuousness in this man is astounding. He actually reminded me of ol’ Slick Willie that way he ducked and dodged direct questions without actually answering them. Huck and Bill Clinton have more in common than just their hometown, that is for sure.
I would rather have Guiliani or McCain get the nomination than Huck, and that’s saying a lot.
I was watching the Catholic network EWTN and they were talking about Fred as if he has been pro-choice for years. And I’m pretty sure he confounded a lot of evangelicals by saying he wouldn’t support an amendment to ban abortion. I think he may need to clear this up, if he is really pro-life.
NellE on January 7, 2008 at 11:59 PM
DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IN PROTECTING THE UNBORN!eleventy!
You have to be smarter than this.
Fred! doesn’t, or hasn’t, supported the “HLA” or Human Life Amendment because it doesn’t have a chance in heck of ever becoming law.
Those of us who are pro-life understand that our best bet right now at least, is in the courts.
On this front, Fred! is on our side.
Clinton 0
Edwards 2
Obama 7
Kucinich 0
Richardson 1
csdeven on January 8, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Hillary may come back and get the nomination (and I hope she does).. but at least we can all say we enjoyed the first few primaries. I laughed last week in Iowa. And I am quite sure I’ll enjoy another good chuckle Tuesday night.
As a born and raised Arkansas Christian conservative…the huckalovers have no clue who this guy really is. He is a nice christian tax and spend liberal moderate, that talks a good line of crap.
Strange campaign season we’re having. My prediction: No clear winner in the Republican primaries, back room deals at the convention and Alan Keyes closes out the convention as the nominee.
Fall showdown–Keyes dukes it out with Obama for the second time in four years.
WOW!!
The drama, folks. Strange America in the 21st century.
BTW, I may not agree with Fred on the pro-life amendment, but understand why he doesn’t support it.
He believes in federalism, and believes that in matters of general welfare, the writers of the Constitution left it up to the states to decide what is best for their residents.
He is not going to abandon his principles and belief in federalism for political expediency, and therefore will not support the amendment, even though it would gain him votes.
He is a pro-life man of principle, and one who I wish would be our next President.
What’s even awsome-er is that he said that to the people of Tenn. If my memory is correct (and it may not be) their frustration with him was over his “no” vote on giving federal money to revolutionary war widows. He said this:
“Mr. Speaker, I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the sufferings of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this House, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for a part of the living to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not go into an argument to prove that Congress has no power to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public money. Some eloquent appeals have been made to us upon the ground that it is a debt due the deceased. Mr. Speaker, the deceased lived long after the close of the war; he was in office to the day of his death, and I have never heard that the government was in arrears to him.”
They need to stop framing this phenomenon in terms of ‘evangelicals’.
ThackerAgency on January 7, 2008 at 11:19 PM
I’m sorry, but wasn’t 80-something percent of his support in Iowa made up of Evangelicals?
amerpundit on January 8, 2008 at 12:06 AM
Again, Huckabee received less than 50% of the evangelical vote in Iowa. It is apparent Huck has an appeal to a certain group of evangelicals, but there are many who happen to be evangelical and solid Reagan conservatives. I am in the latter group of evangelicals and I won’t be voting for Huck.
Rush is exactly right. Fred! is the only true Conservative in the race (other than Hunter). Yet the MSM is succeeding in convincing Conservatives that Fred! can’t possibly win (long before the first vote was even cast), that he’s behaving like he doesn’t even want to be in the race, that he isn’t exciting enough, etc. If people would only listen to his words. He is calm, thoughtful, wise and has good judgment. I think he’s just the man we need!
Look at how the NH folks have gone gaga over McLame, who is a grumpy old snooze-fest with a very bad anti-GOP, anti-Conservative record. The only things he has going for him are: (1) his Vietnam POW history (admirable, honorable, and we Americans truly thank him from the bottom of our hearts — but that was 40 years ago, and he should no longer get a pass on everything he has done since then to undermine us (Gang of 14, limiting Freedom of speech), and (2) his views on the Iraq war (over there, anyway). He has consistently voted against protecting us here (borders, Gitmo, interrogation of terrorists). He’s probably in favor of the Colonel Klink method of interrogation: wining and dining them into spilling their secrets.
People complain about Rudy mentioning his handling of 9/11 too much — that was 6 years ago, blah, blah, blah. Yet they always give McLame a pass when he mentions his Vietnam sacrifice — and that was 40 years ago. Both are things they should rightly be proud of, but the double-standard is just too much.
If it’s just in quotes and highlighted it means the person agrees with it and has found it useful and separated from the rest of the paragraph for emphasis without further comment.
At least I do it that way and have seen it used by others.
If they don’t criticize you it’s good.
Sometimes I’ll comment further though. In your case it was so good and in contrast from commentator faraway’s that it needed more emphasis.
I wanted to link to my rant this morning, but accidently clicked “submit” before that happened.
Before people attack Rush Limbaugh, a little history lesson is required.
When Reagan freed the airwaves from the libs in ‘87, he allowed freedom of speech to finally extend to the airwaves. In a way, Rush and conservative radio in general – the very thing that allowed the Republican Revolution to occur – was the second-most lasting gift (after the collapse of the Soviet Union) that President Reagan gave this country.
Rush has been the most consistent major conservative, pro-freedom voice in this country for the past several decades. I have listened to him, on and off, for almost 20 years and have not detected any major wavering from the conservative way of thinking in all that time.
Contrast him with Gingrich – now a raving lunatic Global Warming scamster and “big-government” conservative, or many of the other once-true conservative voices, such as Dick Armey, who have sold out for lobbying bucks.
I am a strong Rush supporter, it’s true (although not a blue-blood DittoHead) When you run him down, for Huckabee or Ron Paul or whomever, I guess it’s like that old Merle Haggard song: “You’re walking on the fightin’ side of me”
I was watching the Catholic network EWTN and they were talking about Fred as if he has been pro-choice for years. And I’m pretty sure he confounded a lot of evangelicals by saying he wouldn’t support an amendment to ban abortion. I think he may need to clear this up, if he is really pro-life.
NellE on January 7, 2008 at 11:59 PM
It’s because he is a Federalist. He feels it should be the provence of the states, not the federal government. If Row vs. Wade was overturned as bad law (which it is), then the question of abortion would go back to the states.
As a practical matter, an Amendment banning abortion will never in the foreseeable future be passed because there are too many people and states that are pro-choice for ratification to take place even if it made it through Congress. Even making it through Congress is doubtful.
So, if Rush were to break his vow and suddenly comes out with a full-on endorsement of Fred tomorrow and spends the entire three hours of his show talking up Fred, would it save Fred’s campaign? Would it catapult Fred from near-oblivion to the top of the pack overnight? Or would it have no impact whatsoever? Just wondering what you guys think.
It’d have to be nationwide, so it would happen on Super-(Duper-?) Tuesday or thereabouts to have any effect, assuming Fred makes it that far. Rush’s endorsement would definitely have some effect — but the MSM would never admit it. They’d chalk it up to something — anything — other than the RL endorsement.
Plus it’s something Rush could only do once. If he endorsed a losing candidate, his influence would be zero from that point on. That’s the kind of career-ending risk that Rush has carefully avoided for the last 19 years.
“Every man in this House knows it is not a debt. We cannot, without the grossest corruption, appropriate this money as the payment of a debt. We have not the semblance of authority to appropriate it as a charity. Mr. Speaker, I have said we have the right to give as much money of our own as we please. I am the poorest man on this floor. I cannot vote for this bill, but I will give one week’s pay to the object, and, if every member of Congress will do the same, it will amount to more than the bill asks.”
Just saying, it’s kind of “odd” for Rush to throw out fred’s name..
Why not Duncan Hunter? He’s a Baptist.
Or McCain(Baptist also.. )
Sheesh… they are splitting the Baptist vote.. LOL
Rudy’s the only Catholic!
And I’m a Baptist that Supports him!
Chakra Hammer on January 8, 2008 at 12:23 AM
I go to church regularly, contribute significantly, and most of my friends are from the church or otherwise Christian… and I’m an athiest. Going to church has nothing to do with anything but social integration.
Huck wears is “faith” not on his sleeve, but on the front of his shirt like a Grateful Dead T-Shirt.
Is Rush getting out of touch? Will he go the way of the Clintons?
faraway on January 7, 2008 at 11:48 PM
You know, I don’t think I’ll sell my founder’s grant shares of “EIB network private label if you have to ask you can’t afford it superior” stock just quite yet. Call me crazy, but somehow, someway, I feel sure that Rush will survive your disdain.
Oh sure, it’ll be hard. But he will endeavor to persevere! He will somehow find the will to get up in the morning, even through the crushing blow of losing faraway. I know he will! You can do it Rush! Don’t give up! C’mon elRushbo!!!
(singing) Just thinking about… tomorrow! Bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow!!! there’ll be sun!!!!!!
I also believed they picked him because they thought he was in the best position to beat Giuliani.
Fred Thompson is the Republican most likely to beat abortion-rights supporter Rudy Giuliani, the National Right to Life Committee said Tuesday, announcing its endorsement of the former Tennessee senator for president.
“While there are various polls, and some are up-and-down, the overwhelming consensus has been that he is best-positioned to top pro-abortion candidate Rudy Giuliani for the Republican nomination,” the group’s executive director, David N. O’Steen, said at a Washington news conference.
DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IN PROTECTING THE UNBORN!eleventy!
You have to be smarter than this.
Fred! doesn’t, or hasn’t, supported the “HLA” or Human Life Amendment because it doesn’t have a chance in heck of ever becoming law.
Those of us who are pro-life understand that our best bet right now at least, is in the courts. On this front, Fred! is on our side
You and I understand it, but I think there are people who heard he’s opposed to the amendment, and don’t know why, so they just mentally wrote him off as not pro-life enough. Just a theory. I’ll check it out at church.
flyfisher on January 8, 2008 at 12:22 AM
It’s not a matter of how much Evangelicals supported him, but how many of his supporters are Evangelicals.
amerpundit on January 8, 2008 at 12:24 AM
I hear you, but I don’t like the impression many bloggers and media have created. They want everyone to believe that most evangelicals support Huck. Perhaps I am being touchy, but sometimes it comes off as a way to marginalize an already unpopular group–evangelicals. As an educated, thinking, conservative Christian, I don’t want to be lumped in with any group. I reject identity politics and will make up my own mind based on principle. For instance, I will vote Rudy before I vote Huck. I wish Rudy were pro-life; nevertheless, I would vote for him because I believe he is a leader who is fundamentally conservative. The dilemma comes if I am forced to decide between Mitt “I Love Mandates” Romney and the Huckster.
Plus it’s something Rush could only do once. If he endorsed a losing candidate, his influence would be zero from that point on. That’s the kind of career-ending risk that Rush has carefully avoided for the last 19 years.
GoHskrs on January 8, 2008 at 12:25 AM
I agree that Rush won’t break his no-endorsement vow because of what you said–it would be awful for his career if it ended up giving an impression that Rush is irrelevant if the guy he picks crashes and burns.
However, Rush has reason to believe that his livelihood might to some degree be at stake this time if a Dem wins. A Dem president, backed by a Dem Congress, could finally pass the Hush Rush law and make it much more difficult for Rush to do business. There’s the internet and satellite radio, but as soon as people have to pay, his audience will shrink dramatically. It’s remotely possible that he’d consider throwing caution to the winds if he sees the only conservative in the race going down fast and hard.
He probably would have done it by now, though, since it would be a miracle if Fred makes it to Super Duper Pooper Tuesday at this point.
Fred Thompson and Rudy Giuliani have virtually the exact same position on abortion, Fred is Pandering thats the only difference.. (It may help him now, BUT HE WILL NEVER GET A GOOD JUDGE CONFIRMED PAST A DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED SENATE)
Does anyone believe Bain Capital’s purchase of Clear Channel has had an affect on the media coverage of Romney, particularly the coverage on talk radio? I know some Huckabee supporters who actually believe Rush has been pressured by Clear Channel to speak favorably of Romney and cover-up his record.
Huck has said enough to let this voter know he’s way out of line when it comes to conservative values. Mitt pined him and he never answered the question on raising taxes. Read My Lips Texting. Huck’s a RINO with a side of Jimma Carter.
Rommey isn’t any better.
McCain is insane.
Rudy is just another flavor playing on Broadway.
Fred is the only one that has a record of conservative history.
While Rush is going after The High Reverend Huckster, who will likely sink of his own weight anyway, Juan Plantation Strawberries McShamnasty is going to sneak past him for a touchdown.
Rush should be concentrating his fire on McShamnasty and right now before it may be too late.
Does anyone believe Bain Capital’s purchase of Clear Channel has had an affect on the media coverage of Romney, particularly the coverage on talk radio? I know some Huckabee supporters who actually believe Rush has been pressured by Clear Channel to speak favorably of Romney and cover-up his record.
flyfisher on January 8, 2008 at 12:57 AM
Thank you left-wing troll.
Thank you really, Rush has been foolin’ me for all these years, I wouldn’t have known.
BAIN CAPITOL BOUGHT CLEAR CHANNEL!!!eleventy!!1Damn you talk radio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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I’m buying what yer sellin, pal. Thanks for raising my spirits a bit.
25 more dollars to Fred, then I really should be off to work… but thanks, again.
joewm315 on January 7, 2008 at 11:58 PM
I was watching the Catholic network EWTN and they were talking about Fred as if he has been pro-choice for years. And I’m pretty sure he confounded a lot of evangelicals by saying he wouldn’t support an amendment to ban abortion. I think he may need to clear this up, if he is really pro-life.
NellE on January 7, 2008 at 11:59 PM
My favorite coffee cup says that.
conservnut on January 7, 2008 at 11:59 PM
I’ve been hoping Fred would respond to the defibulators zapping incessantly across his chest. Apparently his undertaker hasn’t put enough embalming fluid in to jack him up. I shiver thinking about the weak choices apparent so far in the conservative pack. Oh that another like Ronald R would come along. Frankly, Lieberman would be my alternative to what’s there now if he were in the race.
wepeople on January 7, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Oh, he ’stated’ that. Does that make up for taking action SUING gun manufacturers (American companies no less)? I don’t think so. And you call evangelicals ’stupid’. The NRA won’t endorse him and that makes a big difference to the R party and conservatives (or it used to). Name ONE other R who has sued the gun manufacturers and I’ll give it a pass.
He used the government to act as a bully against citizens and a legal company. Now that he SAYS he won’t do it again, he’s your guy. GREAT!
ThackerAgency on January 7, 2008 at 11:59 PM
Now that’s doing the Lord’s work.
Weight of Glory on January 8, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Wow! I never thought that I’d see the day when Rush is acting like the very “drive-by media” that he so consistenlty chastises. I hear alot of gross generalizations and characterizations about Mr. Huck; however I have yet to see the “relentless pursuit of the truth”, as he so often touts during his bump-ins. I personally have not made up my mind about Huck, but it sure is tiring to hear alot of folks who criticize him without taking their arguments beyond name calling (ie: 95% of those posting at this site.)I know that someone out there has a well-thought out argument that is actually punctuated with some real-live facts…and I’m certaintly NOT referring to Ms. Coulter!
HERMES on January 8, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Another Huck campaign plant troll.
Please avoid at all costs.
Huckabee isn’t getting evangelical votes on Leno and Letterman.
Fred is dead. Please stop grieving.
faraway on January 7, 2008 at 11:48 PM
……………………………………………………….
Maybe all of the old old guard will be swept away with Obama fever.
Bye, bye Rush.
Bye, bye Clintons.
Bye, bye Drudge.
Bye, Bye CNN.
Bye, Bye Madelyn Albright, Stephanopolos (sp?), etc.
faraway on January 7, 2008 at 11:53 PM
We knew that having registration open so long was going to be hell to pay.
Mcguyver on January 8, 2008 at 12:01 AM
What? Rush support Rudy? OK, the scandalous personal life is a match, but Rudy’s professional scandals, sanctuary city & pro-abortion record reveal a liberal.
jgapinoy on January 8, 2008 at 12:01 AM
AP, DUDE! Wheres the NH vote thread? Dixville Notch is casting their votes right now!!
csdeven on January 8, 2008 at 12:02 AM
Ha! Mine too! It’s blue and I got it at the Woodlands Mall in the Ya’lls Texas store.
Weight of Glory on January 8, 2008 at 12:02 AM
Well yeah.
They’re voting for Huckabee, so what should I think?
and before anyone gets mad remember, I agree with you on most policy matters.
billy on January 8, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Waaaahhhhh!
peski on January 8, 2008 at 12:04 AM
Why? They’re his only supporters.
Jaibones on January 8, 2008 at 12:04 AM
I think it depends on the market. I am not sure how Rush plays in Iowa, but rural or not, it is a yankee liberal state. I don’t figure he has a big following there.
But in the rest of flyover country I think he still has some weight among conservatives
conservnut on January 8, 2008 at 12:04 AM
Awww, geez! Conservnut’s wife here…we are in Conroe, via Cut-n-Shoot!!! Sound like Huck/Obama country? HELL-O NO!
SouthernPride on January 8, 2008 at 12:05 AM
Yes we can. It just has to be the right 30. I think it might even be the right 10 or 15.
Purple Fury on January 8, 2008 at 12:05 AM
Power goes to those who have or are around power.
Why would all the old Clinton hacks be needed any longer at ABC and CNN?
Why would all the old Clinton haters be needed any more? What will Dick Morris do if Hillary is demolished?
All the cable and radio pundits are scared to death of the Obama/ Huck matchup.
faraway on January 8, 2008 at 12:06 AM
I’m a Baptist!
And I’m voting for RUDY!
And I don’t feel like i’m compromising ANYTHING!
He’s the best candidate period!
He could have pulled a Mitt Romney After he left office and said that he suddenly had an epiphany on being Pro-Choice so that he could be the best Pander-in-Chief..
But, Rudy has REAL positions NOT platitudes.
And that give the man CREDIBILITY and TRUST with me..
I do not trust Huck, Mitt or Fred.. sorry..
If you read the Brody Files.. you will see that fred once didn’t really even think that abortion should even be in the party platform.. so, whats all the pandering for now then?
I trust Rudy on the Judges, he has the BEST Judicial advisory board in the business.
Chakra Hammer on January 8, 2008 at 12:06 AM
I’m sorry, but wasn’t 80-something percent of his support in Iowa made up of Evangelicals?
amerpundit on January 8, 2008 at 12:06 AM
froghat on January 7, 2008 at 11:44 PM
do you think NH represents the rest of the country?
He never planned on getting 1% in NH, lol..
Its all about SC for Fred, if you paid any attention to it, you’d know that..also, hes made more money in the last 3 days than hes made in a good while. Over halfway to his goal for ad buys across SC.. It’s not over for Fred, and once people acually see he is really the only true conservative in the bunch, it should get better…
Its all about timing, and a little luck, you never know what other things may happen along the way to help his cause
stlpatriot on January 8, 2008 at 12:06 AM
Great minds huh? When my wife saw that cup she had to have a couple.
conservnut on January 8, 2008 at 12:06 AM
Geeze, thank you I completely forgot. I’ve been sucked into a Hot Air black hole tonight. I’ve shut out the outside world and lost track of time, until you reminded me. Thanks!
Weight of Glory on January 8, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Republicans like to say that they want a “Reagan conservative”. They say they respect substance over style. They are critical of politicians who crave power for power’s sake. They say they want someone who will let his conservative core guide him in every decision. Then they are given a choice and low and behold, they go for the guy who “looks presidential” (Mitt). Or they assign the label of “conservative” to their guy, no matter that his entire history in elective office runs counter to traditional Reagan conservatism (Mitt, Rudy, Huck, and McCain). They say things like “Fred is right on the issues but he runs a sorry campaign, is lazy, has a bad fitting suit, etc,” as a result they throw their support to one of the RINO’s.
It’s a sad time to be a Republican.
The very sad FACT is that the current breed of “Christian conservatives” (the Hucksters) would support Jimmy Carter over Ronald Reagan. The James Dobsons’ of the world will split the conservative wing of the party and insure a RINO or a Democrat will be our next president. As a result enormous damage will be done to both the conservative and evangelical wings of the party. We will be represented for years to come by the Rockefeller/Ford/Guliani/Chafee/Bloomburg/Specter/Pataki/G.H.W.Bush/Romney, country-club wing of the party. The social/moral issues the evangelicals care so much about will be forever put on the back-burner. So too will the economic, 2nd Amendment, judicial, national security, and personal liberty issues that REAL conservatives care about. We will be a lesser country as a result.
If you are a Republican and you truely care about the conservative movement, you should get behind Fred before it’s too late.
edgehead on January 8, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Ditto. I can’t understand the appeal of this guy. He doesn’t understand the most important issues of our day. He wants to be credited for getting his principles right instead of getting the facts straight. He won’t answer direct questions on policy. He is an ignorant snake oil salesman as far as I can tell.
Go Fred!
SimplyKimberly on January 8, 2008 at 12:08 AM
To commentator faraway,
Go away.
Working for the Huckabee campaign doesn’t work here.
We smell rats 100 miles away.
Go here to swear under an oath of penalty of perjury that you are not a implant. Only then will we think about putting you on parole instead of banning you.
P.S. Oh and huck you too.
Mcguyver on January 8, 2008 at 12:08 AM
I’ve been here much longer than you, I imagine. I said many months ago that Fred would go nowhere. As a famous slimy liberal once said, “Google it”.
faraway on January 8, 2008 at 12:09 AM
Where he currently polls at fourth place, .4% ahead of Rudy?
amerpundit on January 8, 2008 at 12:09 AM
Just for kicks and giggles, what year did Rush become nationally syndicated, and who was president at the time?
Weight of Glory on January 8, 2008 at 12:10 AM
just humor me please, i am new here, where you agreeing with my post or just using it to make another point?
In the mean time I am going back and rereading yours to see if I can figure it out on my own.
vabslady on January 8, 2008 at 12:10 AM
Here’s O’Reiley interviewing a Huck supporter.
sonnyspats1 on January 8, 2008 at 12:10 AM
Photo of the day ?
William Amos on January 8, 2008 at 12:10 AM
You know, I am an evangelical, and the more I see of Huckabee, the more he scares me.
I watched the debate on Sunday night and the amount of disingenuousness in this man is astounding. He actually reminded me of ol’ Slick Willie that way he ducked and dodged direct questions without actually answering them. Huck and Bill Clinton have more in common than just their hometown, that is for sure.
I would rather have Guiliani or McCain get the nomination than Huck, and that’s saying a lot.
Jodella on January 8, 2008 at 12:10 AM
Bout’ time.
ronsfi on January 8, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Who cares…
LSU won tonight! Woo-Hoo!!! Way to go neighbors!!
SouthernPride on January 8, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Mcguyver that was to you sorry
vabslady on January 8, 2008 at 12:11 AM
Rudy 1
Mitt 2
Huck 0
Fred 0
McCain 4
Clinton 0
Edwards 2
Obama 7
Kucinich 0
Richardson 1
csdeven on January 8, 2008 at 12:11 AM
DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IN PROTECTING THE UNBORN!eleventy!
You have to be smarter than this.
Fred! doesn’t, or hasn’t, supported the “HLA” or Human Life Amendment because it doesn’t have a chance in heck of ever becoming law.
Those of us who are pro-life understand that our best bet right now at least, is in the courts.
On this front, Fred! is on our side.
billy on January 8, 2008 at 12:11 AM
amerpundit on January 8, 2008 at 12:09 AM
Yes, lol
hes there now, one can hope no?
stlpatriot on January 8, 2008 at 12:13 AM
Genuinely touched, thanks.
Heh. Awesome.
Um, I don’t have empathy for the Clintons.
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 12:13 AM
Neither did Ronald Reagan.
edgehead on January 8, 2008 at 12:13 AM
Fox has declared McCain and Obama the winners of the first New Hampshire vote
William Amos on January 8, 2008 at 12:14 AM
August 1988.
amerpundit on January 8, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Hillary may come back and get the nomination (and I hope she does).. but at least we can all say we enjoyed the first few primaries. I laughed last week in Iowa. And I am quite sure I’ll enjoy another good chuckle Tuesday night.
henzou on January 8, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Mcguyver, take your meds please.
faraway on January 8, 2008 at 12:14 AM
As a born and raised Arkansas Christian conservative…the huckalovers have no clue who this guy really is. He is a nice christian tax and spend liberal moderate, that talks a good line of crap.
mpax on January 8, 2008 at 12:15 AM
Strange campaign season we’re having. My prediction: No clear winner in the Republican primaries, back room deals at the convention and Alan Keyes closes out the convention as the nominee.
Fall showdown–Keyes dukes it out with Obama for the second time in four years.
WOW!!
The drama, folks. Strange America in the 21st century.
Skidd on January 8, 2008 at 12:17 AM
BTW, I may not agree with Fred on the pro-life amendment, but understand why he doesn’t support it.
He believes in federalism, and believes that in matters of general welfare, the writers of the Constitution left it up to the states to decide what is best for their residents.
He is not going to abandon his principles and belief in federalism for political expediency, and therefore will not support the amendment, even though it would gain him votes.
He is a pro-life man of principle, and one who I wish would be our next President.
Jodella on January 8, 2008 at 12:19 AM
What’s even awsome-er is that he said that to the people of Tenn. If my memory is correct (and it may not be) their frustration with him was over his “no” vote on giving federal money to revolutionary war widows. He said this:
we have come a long way indeed.
Weight of Glory on January 8, 2008 at 12:22 AM
Again, Huckabee received less than 50% of the evangelical vote in Iowa. It is apparent Huck has an appeal to a certain group of evangelicals, but there are many who happen to be evangelical and solid Reagan conservatives. I am in the latter group of evangelicals and I won’t be voting for Huck.
GO FRED GO!
flyfisher on January 8, 2008 at 12:22 AM
Just saying, it’s kind of “odd” for Rush to throw out fred’s name..
Why not Duncan Hunter? He’s a Baptist.
Or McCain(Baptist also.. )
Sheesh… they are splitting the Baptist vote.. LOL
Rudy’s the only Catholic!
And I’m a Baptist that Supports him!
Chakra Hammer on January 8, 2008 at 12:23 AM
Rush is exactly right. Fred! is the only true Conservative in the race (other than Hunter). Yet the MSM is succeeding in convincing Conservatives that Fred! can’t possibly win (long before the first vote was even cast), that he’s behaving like he doesn’t even want to be in the race, that he isn’t exciting enough, etc. If people would only listen to his words. He is calm, thoughtful, wise and has good judgment. I think he’s just the man we need!
Look at how the NH folks have gone gaga over McLame, who is a grumpy old snooze-fest with a very bad anti-GOP, anti-Conservative record. The only things he has going for him are: (1) his Vietnam POW history (admirable, honorable, and we Americans truly thank him from the bottom of our hearts — but that was 40 years ago, and he should no longer get a pass on everything he has done since then to undermine us (Gang of 14, limiting Freedom of speech), and (2) his views on the Iraq war (over there, anyway). He has consistently voted against protecting us here (borders, Gitmo, interrogation of terrorists). He’s probably in favor of the Colonel Klink method of interrogation: wining and dining them into spilling their secrets.
People complain about Rudy mentioning his handling of 9/11 too much — that was 6 years ago, blah, blah, blah. Yet they always give McLame a pass when he mentions his Vietnam sacrifice — and that was 40 years ago. Both are things they should rightly be proud of, but the double-standard is just too much.
My first post at HA. Go Fred!
Doubloon on January 8, 2008 at 12:23 AM
To:
vabslady on January 8, 2008 at 12:10 AM
If it’s just in quotes and highlighted it means the person agrees with it and has found it useful and separated from the rest of the paragraph for emphasis without further comment.
At least I do it that way and have seen it used by others.
If they don’t criticize you it’s good.
Sometimes I’ll comment further though. In your case it was so good and in contrast from commentator faraway’s that it needed more emphasis.
I wanted to link to my rant this morning, but accidently clicked “submit” before that happened.
Mcguyver on January 8, 2008 at 12:23 AM
Damn, just upchucked my dinner.
peski on January 8, 2008 at 12:23 AM
Just a guess, 87′ and Reagan
conservnut on January 8, 2008 at 12:23 AM
It’s not a matter of how much Evangelicals supported him, but how many of his supporters are Evangelicals.
amerpundit on January 8, 2008 at 12:24 AM
Before people attack Rush Limbaugh, a little history lesson is required.
When Reagan freed the airwaves from the libs in ‘87, he allowed freedom of speech to finally extend to the airwaves. In a way, Rush and conservative radio in general – the very thing that allowed the Republican Revolution to occur – was the second-most lasting gift (after the collapse of the Soviet Union) that President Reagan gave this country.
Rush has been the most consistent major conservative, pro-freedom voice in this country for the past several decades. I have listened to him, on and off, for almost 20 years and have not detected any major wavering from the conservative way of thinking in all that time.
Contrast him with Gingrich – now a raving lunatic Global Warming scamster and “big-government” conservative, or many of the other once-true conservative voices, such as Dick Armey, who have sold out for lobbying bucks.
I am a strong Rush supporter, it’s true (although not a blue-blood DittoHead) When you run him down, for Huckabee or Ron Paul or whomever, I guess it’s like that old Merle Haggard song: “You’re walking on the fightin’ side of me”
TexasJew on January 8, 2008 at 12:24 AM
NellE
I believe Fred has the National Right to Life endorsement.
Please correct me if I’m wrong.
I’m off to Fred 08 to put my money where my mouth is.
Janna on January 8, 2008 at 12:24 AM
I was watching the Catholic network EWTN and they were talking about Fred as if he has been pro-choice for years. And I’m pretty sure he confounded a lot of evangelicals by saying he wouldn’t support an amendment to ban abortion. I think he may need to clear this up, if he is really pro-life.
NellE on January 7, 2008 at 11:59 PM
It’s because he is a Federalist. He feels it should be the provence of the states, not the federal government. If Row vs. Wade was overturned as bad law (which it is), then the question of abortion would go back to the states.
As a practical matter, an Amendment banning abortion will never in the foreseeable future be passed because there are too many people and states that are pro-choice for ratification to take place even if it made it through Congress. Even making it through Congress is doubtful.
maxine on January 8, 2008 at 12:24 AM
Go rush!
Christoph on January 8, 2008 at 12:24 AM
It’d have to be nationwide, so it would happen on Super-(Duper-?) Tuesday or thereabouts to have any effect, assuming Fred makes it that far. Rush’s endorsement would definitely have some effect — but the MSM would never admit it. They’d chalk it up to something — anything — other than the RL endorsement.
Plus it’s something Rush could only do once. If he endorsed a losing candidate, his influence would be zero from that point on. That’s the kind of career-ending risk that Rush has carefully avoided for the last 19 years.
GoHskrs on January 8, 2008 at 12:25 AM
Get off your meds faraway.
Huck is a nice Christian tax and spend liberal moderate, that talks a good line of crap.
Mcguyver on January 8, 2008 at 12:25 AM
Mr. Crockett continued with this:
“Every man in this House knows it is not a debt. We cannot, without the grossest corruption, appropriate this money as the payment of a debt. We have not the semblance of authority to appropriate it as a charity. Mr. Speaker, I have said we have the right to give as much money of our own as we please. I am the poorest man on this floor. I cannot vote for this bill, but I will give one week’s pay to the object, and, if every member of Congress will do the same, it will amount to more than the bill asks.”
Weight of Glory on January 8, 2008 at 12:26 AM
I go to church regularly, contribute significantly, and most of my friends are from the church or otherwise Christian… and I’m an athiest. Going to church has nothing to do with anything but social integration.
Huck wears is “faith” not on his sleeve, but on the front of his shirt like a Grateful Dead T-Shirt.
peski on January 8, 2008 at 12:26 AM
TexasJew on January 8, 2008 at 12:24 AM
Ditto!
maxine on January 8, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Then Rush says it’s PURE POPULISM!
then look here
Scroll down and look at the chart at the bottom, Populist-Leaning Conservative..
on that same website Rudy is the only one that is a Libertarian Conservative.
If Rush wants to get away from Populism.. well then…
2nd look at Rudy.
Chakra Hammer on January 8, 2008 at 12:29 AM
You know, I don’t think I’ll sell my founder’s grant shares of “EIB network private label if you have to ask you can’t afford it superior” stock just quite yet. Call me crazy, but somehow, someway, I feel sure that Rush will survive your disdain.
Oh sure, it’ll be hard. But he will endeavor to persevere! He will somehow find the will to get up in the morning, even through the crushing blow of losing faraway. I know he will! You can do it Rush! Don’t give up! C’mon elRushbo!!!
(singing) Just thinking about… tomorrow! Bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow!!! there’ll be sun!!!!!!
TCJ on January 8, 2008 at 12:30 AM
“patience grasshopper”
[on another note; AP & Bryan, you’re going to have an army of commentors. Use your power wisely young men.
Griz on January 8, 2008 at 12:30 AM
I also believed they picked him because they thought he was in the best position to beat Giuliani.
amerpundit on January 8, 2008 at 12:32 AM
A great man indeed. And the main reason that we Texans will always have a special kinship to our brothers in the Great State of Tennesee!
conservnut on January 8, 2008 at 12:33 AM
DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IN PROTECTING THE UNBORN!eleventy!
You have to be smarter than this.
Fred! doesn’t, or hasn’t, supported the “HLA” or Human Life Amendment because it doesn’t have a chance in heck of ever becoming law.
Those of us who are pro-life understand that our best bet right now at least, is in the courts. On this front, Fred! is on our side
NellE on January 8, 2008 at 12:33 AM
I hear you, but I don’t like the impression many bloggers and media have created. They want everyone to believe that most evangelicals support Huck. Perhaps I am being touchy, but sometimes it comes off as a way to marginalize an already unpopular group–evangelicals. As an educated, thinking, conservative Christian, I don’t want to be lumped in with any group. I reject identity politics and will make up my own mind based on principle. For instance, I will vote Rudy before I vote Huck. I wish Rudy were pro-life; nevertheless, I would vote for him because I believe he is a leader who is fundamentally conservative. The dilemma comes if I am forced to decide between Mitt “I Love Mandates” Romney and the Huckster.
flyfisher on January 8, 2008 at 12:34 AM
Mr. Crockett was a proud Tennessean who died a hero’s death as a new Texian.
All hail Davy Crockett and the brave men who died for our Republic!!
Wake me up…DoH! I was dreaming. Did a heroic politician really die for their their beliefs at one time? Nahhh…I’m still asleep. Nightie-night.
SouthernPride on January 8, 2008 at 12:35 AM
And both those realities factored into our move to Texas…the housing market was the other, heh.
Weight of Glory on January 8, 2008 at 12:36 AM
Thanks for bringing that to mind. You aren’t kidding, things have changed.
Spirit of 1776 on January 8, 2008 at 12:36 AM
FRED!!!
SouthernPride on January 8, 2008 at 12:37 AM
Ok, going to bed ya’ll, had fun tonight old hands, and new folks, welcome!
conservnut on January 8, 2008 at 12:41 AM
Nite!
Weight of Glory on January 8, 2008 at 12:42 AM
Same here. G’night all and thanks AP for letting some of us lurkers join in the fun. :)
TCJ on January 8, 2008 at 12:42 AM
I agree that Rush won’t break his no-endorsement vow because of what you said–it would be awful for his career if it ended up giving an impression that Rush is irrelevant if the guy he picks crashes and burns.
However, Rush has reason to believe that his livelihood might to some degree be at stake this time if a Dem wins. A Dem president, backed by a Dem Congress, could finally pass the Hush Rush law and make it much more difficult for Rush to do business. There’s the internet and satellite radio, but as soon as people have to pay, his audience will shrink dramatically. It’s remotely possible that he’d consider throwing caution to the winds if he sees the only conservative in the race going down fast and hard.
He probably would have done it by now, though, since it would be a miracle if Fred makes it to Super Duper Pooper Tuesday at this point.
aero on January 8, 2008 at 12:43 AM
Fred Thompson and Rudy Giuliani have virtually the exact same position on abortion, Fred is Pandering thats the only difference.. (It may help him now, BUT HE WILL NEVER GET A GOOD JUDGE CONFIRMED PAST A DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED SENATE)
Both support the Hyde Amendment.
Chakra Hammer on January 8, 2008 at 12:44 AM
I think it’s the one right after the Book of Armaments.
ReubenJCogburn on January 8, 2008 at 12:50 AM
Does anyone believe Bain Capital’s purchase of Clear Channel has had an affect on the media coverage of Romney, particularly the coverage on talk radio? I know some Huckabee supporters who actually believe Rush has been pressured by Clear Channel to speak favorably of Romney and cover-up his record.
flyfisher on January 8, 2008 at 12:57 AM
Testify, brother Rush!
silverfox on January 8, 2008 at 1:03 AM
Huck has said enough to let this voter know he’s way out of line when it comes to conservative values. Mitt pined him and he never answered the question on raising taxes. Read My
LipsTexting. Huck’s a RINO with a side of Jimma Carter.Rommey isn’t any better.
McCain is insane.
Rudy is just another flavor playing on Broadway.
Fred is the only one that has a record of conservative history.
Kini on January 8, 2008 at 1:04 AM
While Rush is going after The High Reverend Huckster, who will likely sink of his own weight anyway, Juan Plantation Strawberries McShamnasty is going to sneak past him for a touchdown.
Rush should be concentrating his fire on McShamnasty and right now before it may be too late.
He can kneecap Huckster later.
MB4 on January 8, 2008 at 1:07 AM
Good for the love of grief flyfisher.
Why the hell would you even believe anything the Hucksters are saying?
Are you sure you are not a Huckabee campaign implant?
Go here to swear under the penalty of perjury that you are not.
Mcguyver on January 8, 2008 at 1:08 AM
Thus a victory for socialism no matter who wins. If Huccarter gets the GOP nod, I’m voting Dem and looking at 2012.
Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on January 8, 2008 at 1:08 AM
Who exactly is this Rush guy anyway – and why should I care what he thinks.
Zaire67 on January 8, 2008 at 1:09 AM
multipe bionic quad,
Did you even read Rush’s kneecapping the Huckster and McSchamnesty today.
Oh that’s right, you don’t like Rush.
Shame on you.
Mcguyver on January 8, 2008 at 1:10 AM
Chakra Hammer on January 8, 2008 at 12:44 AM
Check that…
http://www.fred08.com/Virtual/Media/SocialValues120507.pdf
stlpatriot on January 8, 2008 at 1:11 AM
And remember both Tancredo and sheriff Joe endorsed Romney.
MB4 on January 8, 2008 at 1:12 AM
Another Huckabee campaign implant troll.
Please avoid at all cost:
Zaire67 on January 8, 2008 at 1:09 AM
Mcguyver on January 8, 2008 at 1:12 AM
McCain…..Can you say Z-Visa?
DfDeportation on January 8, 2008 at 1:14 AM
Does anyone believe Bain Capital’s purchase of Clear Channel has had an affect on the media coverage of Romney, particularly the coverage on talk radio? I know some Huckabee supporters who actually believe Rush has been pressured by Clear Channel to speak favorably of Romney and cover-up his record.
flyfisher on January 8, 2008 at 12:57 AM
Thank you left-wing troll.
Thank you really, Rush has been foolin’ me for all these years, I wouldn’t have known.
BAIN CAPITOL BOUGHT CLEAR CHANNEL!!!eleventy!!1Damn you talk radio!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
billy on January 8, 2008 at 1:14 AM
Either that or a weird sense of humor. /snark
Kini on January 8, 2008 at 1:17 AM
He just needs to come out and endorse Fred!
Sir Andrew on January 8, 2008 at 1:20 AM
Kini,
Doesn’t matter. Either way they’re getting the hammer.
Mcguyver on January 8, 2008 at 1:24 AM
Maybe all of the old old guard will be swept away with Obama fever.
Bye, bye Rush.
Bye, bye Clintons.
Bye, bye Drudge.
Bye, Bye CNN.
Bye, Bye Madelyn Albright, Stephanopolos (sp?), etc.
faraway on January 7, 2008 at 11:53 PM
They can take Rush when they pry him from my cold, dead ears. Err, or something like that.
Security Mom on January 8, 2008 at 1:29 AM
George Winston fan, eh? Check out the Dancing Cat.
We need the
tollsopposing opinions to have somefunintellengent discussions with. ;-)Kini on January 8, 2008 at 1:40 AM
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