Hot Air poll results: Huck 48.6%, Obama 18%, Stay Home 33.3%
posted at 8:38 pm on January 7, 2008 by Allahpundit
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699 votes seems like a nice meaty sample. Figure two-thirds of that 33% is bluffing and will pull the lever for Huck when push comes to shove. Figure half of the remainder can also be won over by Huck pandering to the base for months on end during the campaign. That still leaves you with almost 15% staying home or crossing the aisle. Look upon these results, my friends. This way lies ruin.
He’s already up 17 in South Carolina, which you’ll recall is the linchpin of the conservative nightmare scenario. Even if Mitt wins tomorrow and then beats him on his homecourt in Michigan, Huck’s still primed to go into SC in or near the lead and pushing hard for evangelical endorsements.
Maybe Ace is right. Maybe it’s a rebuilding year.
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LOL.
You brought up border agents.
If you preferred not to talk about border patrol agents you should not have introduced them into the conversation.
Let that be a lesson to you.
MB4 on January 7, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Mojave is first up for the Fredhead detoxification program.
Sign up here.
Mcguyver on January 7, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Pish posh. You will go to the polls and vote for Fred. THEN you will go home and watch SpongeBob Squarepants.
NemoParticularis on January 7, 2008 at 10:55 PM
Disagree. There must be confidence that the messenger can deliver the message. Many people didn’t want to waste their vote on who they thought might be a faulty messenger.
JiangxiDad on January 7, 2008 at 10:55 PM
It has nothing to do with the topic.. you asked about attacks under Clinton, and I only mentioned that one that was foiled by luck (not Clinton policies), and you bring up the Compean/Ramos case which has absolutely nothing to do with terrorist attacks.
RightWinged on January 7, 2008 at 10:56 PM
Huh? What do you think Huckabee is? He IS the Clinton generation. He’s even from Hope, Arkansas! Who do you think he learned from? The man says anything the voters want to hear. What’s scary is that he might be even better at it than Clinton.
What you’re doing is voting to CONTINUE the Clinton generation. You’re saying to the candidates that you’re okay with them lying and telling us what we want to hear, and then doing completely the opposite.
It’s strange that you all can’t see this.
Huckabee, Romney, Giuliani, and McCain are EXACTLY what you’ve all been complaining about for the last eight years, and now you’re about to reward them.
Good for you!
Gregor on January 7, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Forgetabout The High Reverend Huckster for now.
Those three slowpokes better start crushing Juan Plantation Strawberries McShamnasty.
They got a day left to do it.
MB4 on January 7, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Good point, then keep them on my list minus the “I know they’re not part of our soil” part. All other points stand. Thanks Nemo.
RightWinged on January 7, 2008 at 10:58 PM
Gregor on January 7, 2008 at 10:57 PM
Couldn’t agree more.
unseen on January 7, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Heh…you “is” unable to speak English. Given that deficiency, I have grave reservations regarding your political clairvoyance.
NemoParticularis on January 7, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Well shoot, now I’m confused. I was responding to a question by JiangxiDad. What I was trying to communicate was that the new movement within Evangelicalism (and in all of Christianity in general) is not seeking to make Ceaser God, nor are they trying to make God Ceaser. Proper things in proper places.
Weight of Glory on January 7, 2008 at 11:01 PM
As long as he doesn’t go popping his head out of the sunroof he should be okay.
Gregor on January 7, 2008 at 11:02 PM
If this is what the Republican party has become maybe I do not belong anymore. Why is it that I do not think they care what I think ? I get requests to donate for their cause all the time but just feel that they do not care about my vote, it is only about the their own interests.
SIJ6141 on January 7, 2008 at 11:03 PM
Never! I’ll never give up!
*thrashes against the straightjacket*
Wow, I can tell you’re gonna be a load of fun.
joewm315 on January 7, 2008 at 11:04 PM
No Gregor. It’s not about them. It’s about us. I’m going to try to hold back the dyke until the flood waters recede. I’m going to try and preserve some safe dry ground for my kids to grow on. I’m going to wait them out and beat them.
But I want what you want. So good luck in your missions.
JiangxiDad on January 7, 2008 at 11:07 PM
“Pish posh. You will go to the polls and vote for Fred. THEN you will go home and watch SpongeBob Squarepants.”
NemoParticularis – how about a compromise–
I’ll go home, pop in a DVD and watch that deathless classic “Curly Sue” – costarring Fred, Jim Belushi and Steve Carrell, after I go out and VOTE for “SpongeBob Squarepants”
TexasJew on January 7, 2008 at 11:08 PM
You obviously don’t understand the concept of “vote principle.” It’s a really simple concept actually.
Just a hint; if you’re attempting to calculate who has the better chance to win and you end up voting for the person who doesn’t match your beliefs, you’re NOT voting on principle.
Gregor on January 7, 2008 at 11:09 PM
They appear to have an extreme case of abused woman syndrome or Stockholm syndrome, maybe both
Someone better call Dr. Phil.
MB4 on January 7, 2008 at 11:09 PM
More than you either imagined or feared, Joe.
NemoParticularis on January 7, 2008 at 11:10 PM
Here’s the thing. Parties that lose don’t usually reconstitute themselves in purer form. They move toward the middle, to try to recapture the ground they lost. Look at the wretched Tories. If we stay home, we’re not a factor. If we hold our nose and vote, we’re still in the game. Yeah, I’d have to hold my nose until I couldn’t breathe to vote for Gov Huckabee, but…would he be worse than Obama as a president? Would he raise taxes higher, appoint worse judges, surround himself with less-competent people, make more concessions to socialism? I really doubt it. It’s an either-or choice, people. It’s not about taking your ball and going home. It’s about: which would be worse for the country? If you think that’s Huckabee, by all means vote for Obama. But show up and vote your conscience, darn it.
Splunge on January 7, 2008 at 11:14 PM
My friend took the poll earlier on my computer so I couldn’t vote.
He voted Obama, but I think he’s lying. He’ll probably just stay home. That’s what I’ll probably do, too, if the choice is Obama/Huckabarf.
But what my friend says may be true. Put Obama in the Whitehouse for 4 years and we’re almost sure to have a Republican in 2012.
ochiltree on January 7, 2008 at 11:15 PM
Just send in a peso in the prepaid envelope. They will leave you alone soon enough.
MB4 on January 7, 2008 at 11:16 PM
The fear hit me when that thought occurred.
Mcguyver on January 7, 2008 at 11:17 PM
How amusingly droll, my dear Lone Star Hebrew. I’ll see your “Curly Sue” DVD and raise you “Baby’s Day Out.” Who can ever forget Fred’s unforgettable portrayal of FBI agent Dale Grissom (not to be confused with Gus Grissom)? He made the part HIS, dammit.
No, you will go to the polls, my little Dallas Dreydl, and you will vote for
Dale GrissomFred Thompson.NemoParticularis on January 7, 2008 at 11:17 PM
Splunge on January 7, 2008 at 11:14 PM
You may have a point for the first 4 years. Look at Bush how he changed after 2004. When elections no longer mattered he went left quicker than a rat after the cheese.
unseen on January 7, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Yes he did. Maybe he changed his mind later but I distinctly remember him saying it.
Darth Executor on January 7, 2008 at 11:19 PM
NemoParticularis on January 7, 2008 at 11:17 PM
What is this the attack of movies Beta males enjoy? I’ll be doing a replay of Die Hard 2 and/or Hunt for the Red October.
unseen on January 7, 2008 at 11:20 PM
I truly think you’re not seeing the big picture and because of this, you’re going to do exactly the opposite of what your goal is.
You say it’s about your kids, but you’re actions indicate it’s more about YOU than your kids. You’re worried about NOW, instead of what the country will be like in eight years, 15 years, or 20 years. You’re worried about what Obama will do in the next four years, instead of what will happen to the country in the next 40 years if the GOP continues to move left to the point that there is not much difference between the two Parties.
As I’ve pointed out earlier, by voting for these liberal Republicans, you are assuring the end of the conservative Party. It’s finished. It’s gone forever. There won’t be some savior to come along when Huckabee is finished. The next guy will be even further left. No candidate in his right mind (pun intended) will dare to run on conservative principles after watching Tancredo, Hunter, and Thompson all get shot down by GOP voters.
A win for Thompson would change that forever and send the GOP back to the right.
A humiliating loss for the GOP under a Huckabee nomination would also send the message that a move left will not be tolerated.
A win by Huckabee, or even Giuliani or McCain would be a disaster, forever insuring a constant slide leftward.
You’re not doing your kids any favors. You’re killing their country.
Gregor on January 7, 2008 at 11:21 PM
And appointed Chief Justice Roberts. And hung tough in Iraq. And found his veto pen. There’s some good stuff in the second term, and none of it would have come from the only alternative we had, Senator John Finishing-School Kerry. I’d vote for W again in a minute. It’s not like he was running against Reagan.
Splunge on January 7, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Sorry about the typos.
Gregor on January 7, 2008 at 11:24 PM
Mcguyver:
I don’t agree with you on much, but I’ve got a bad feeling about the President’s trip too. Don’t know why it feels better to say so out loud, though, but it does. Knocking on wood actually helps too, although I wouldn’t hazard a why on that either.
JM Hanes on January 7, 2008 at 11:27 PM
If NemoParticularis’ prediction comes to be I will bake him a big batch of Springerle myself!!!Of course my Springerle will be for ornamentation purposes only.
Pish, posh MB4! Captain Nemo intends to distribute them to the crew of the Nautilus (minus a few for his own stash). In addition to the ship’s motto (Mobilus in Mobili) our only other motto is: The only GOOD Springerle is a CONSUMED Springerle.
NemoParticularis on January 7, 2008 at 11:27 PM
What does Rosie O’Donnell have to do with this?
RightWinged on January 7, 2008 at 11:28 PM
And appointed Chief Justice Roberts. And hung tough in Iraq. And found his veto pen
Splunge on January 7, 2008 at 11:21 PM
Only after he got crushed in 2006. Only after Harriet Myers and immigration reform, and the port deal got crushed and only after we almost got our butts handed to us in Iraq while Nero fiddled.
Bush moved left and he lost his base. Cementing his lame duck status. Would Kerry have been any different with a Rep Congress blocking him. Now we have a dem congress because of Bush’s leftward movement, and a good chance of a Dem president. When you can’t tell the two apart you will vote for the one that promises more stuff. Same will happen with Huckster and Barrack.
unseen on January 7, 2008 at 11:28 PM
I listen for my principles enunciated by a candidate. Fred muffles mine.
JiangxiDad on January 7, 2008 at 11:31 PM
Methinks you’re a bit too generous. I’d figure only a third of both will have a change of mind – particularly if Obama is the nominee. That’s 28% of center and soft right (and some hard right) unwilling to support Huck. He could lose all 50 states.
It is sad to see so many ‘conservatives’ live up to the caricature created by the media and left to represent the right. Perhaps Sully was right in coining the term ‘christianists’.
bains on January 7, 2008 at 11:32 PM
DAMMIT!
What the hell is it with everybody’s – almost – lack of faith that a conservative candidate will be our next president elect?
80% want the border secure/English as 1st language, etc.
You of little faith are instructed to get a dose of Maha’Rush:
And on and on it goes.
I’ve had enough negativity for tonight.
Unless I see some faith and a positive grip on reality, I’m outta here.
Mcguyver on January 7, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Ah yes. Of the two, Hunt for Red October is better. “The Russians don’t take a dump, son, without a plan.” Actually, the better quote – the one that was actually prophetic, at least with regard to national politics, – was this one: “This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to live through it.”
Indeed, Admiral Painter. We will live through it if we are intelligent enough to put aside the shallow and embrace the deep.
unseen on January 7, 2008 at 11:20 PM
NemoParticularis on January 7, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Hey, you left out some stuff. The geriatic prescription bill, No Child Left Behind( in league with Kennedy), the bloated agriculture bill all came before 2006.
a capella on January 7, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Pull your head out of your arse and re-read my earlier post, McQuiver. Stop whining and hold fast. This is gonna be a bumpy ride…not one for the faint of heart. For God’s sake, man, get your act together and act like a CONSERVATIVE.
NemoParticularis on January 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM
What I long for is a return to the smoke-filled room of yore. These primaries are mini-elections with all sorts of corrupt, petty, and inscrutable impenetralia which have little to no impact on which candidate ends up winning the general election. It’s all about appealing to a small group of hardcore party cronies/one-issue voters.
For some it’s how much Ethanol subsidy comes down the pike, for others its some nebulous promise of reforming or replacing the Income Tax. For many Republicans it’s an obsession with abortion. Wake up, people! Abortion doesn’t matter to 90% of Americans! It’s always “someone else’s problem” and why would a person vote for something that doesn’t affect them in the slightest? So much of the reason there is general apathy in the electorate is the reduction of parties to narrow issues which have little to do with voters.
Viscount_Bolingbroke on January 7, 2008 at 11:43 PM
Lot’s of Anti-Southern bigotry here when it comes to Huck.
Yet, some here fantasize over Fred.
Fred seems slow to Southerners.
faraway on January 7, 2008 at 11:44 PM
a capella on January 7, 2008 at 11:36 PM
His his tendencyies were shown before 2004 but he was constraned by the desire to win 2004. After 2004 the pretense of being a conservative small government guy was thrown under the bus for good. And did not resurface in any meaningful way until the defeat of 2006.
unseen on January 7, 2008 at 11:45 PM
In forty years first the Republican party and then the Democrat party will have gone the way of the Whigs.
America will then have three major parties:
1) El gran partido liberal de Mexico.
2) La muy liberal gran parte grande de Mexico.
3) الحزب الاسلامي الكبي
MB4 on January 7, 2008 at 11:46 PM
I would definitely support either Obama or Clinton over Huckabee.
Christoph on January 7, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Nemo-
Are you accusing me of living in Dallas? Me – a proud member of the distinguished oilfield trash community?
The humanity!
Actually, out here in supermacho West Texas, we like to pop a top of Kosher beer and watch our boy Fred in “Aces: Iron Eagle III” or as “Big John” – a foil to supertiny Tom Cruise in “Days of Thunder”, where the Mike Dukakis-sized Cruise comes up around to Fred’s kneecap.
As we say, that’s just finer than frog hairs!
TexasJew on January 7, 2008 at 11:50 PM
*voice of Homer Simpson* Mmm, PURrr-ple. Ooo!
I’ll hit the “R” button with my right hand no matter what. If Fred isn’t the nominee I’ll just be holding my nose with the left though.
Despite Bush’s spotty record he gave us two INCREDIBLE supreme court justices. We need to keep the elephant crew on board no matter who we pick.
Mojave Mark on January 7, 2008 at 11:51 PM
I keep trying to psych myself up to vote for Huckabee, Giuliani, or Romney “for the good of the party” but sadly after the way the GOP has acted lately I don’t have much party loyalty any more either. I’ll cast my vote for Fred in the primary and if he doesn’t get the nomination I’ll change my affiliation to independent. No room left in the GOP for this conservative.
Buzzy on January 7, 2008 at 11:52 PM
And yet Juan Plantation Strawberries McShamnasty has come back from the dead and is surging, so who would have thunk it?
MB4 on January 7, 2008 at 11:53 PM
Nonsense. He is a humbug. The fact that he is a man of the South only reflects poorly on those men of the South who are NOT humbugs.
You confuse fantasy with logical induction of the inevitable.
By any chance, are you a “DamnYankee” who found himself/herself/itself somehow transplanted to latitudes south of the Mason-Dixon line?
NemoParticularis on January 7, 2008 at 11:54 PM
I wasn’t sure of your loaction and I couldn’t think of any other Texas cities that alliterated with “Dreydl.” The Captain begs your indulgence for this faux pas.
I like you, TexasJew.
NemoParticularis on January 7, 2008 at 11:59 PM
MB4 on January 7, 2008 at 11:46 PM
Now that was funny. True but funny
unseen on January 8, 2008 at 12:01 AM
That’s a bunch of Okra.
The High Reverend Huckster is my last choice for President after Juan Plantation Strawberries McShamnasty of Arizona, although they understandably refuse to claim him any more, yet Alabama boy Jeff Sessions would be my first choice if he was running.
MB4 on January 8, 2008 at 12:02 AM
Some of you folks are acting like drama queens.
Thompson, McCain, Romney and Giuliani all agree on most issues, so the relatively small number of disagreements and nuances get blown out of proportion. We have four candidates who would all be far better for the country (this is about the country, not a party or ideology, remember?) than anything the Democrats have on offer.
One of the traps the Left frequently falls into is attacking democracy itself, and the voters, when they don’t get 100% of what they want. Let’s not copy them.
Principles are extremely important, and the primaries are our chance to steer the party, but we should not sacrifice the security and prosperity of the country by cutting off our nose to spite our face.
LagunaDave on January 8, 2008 at 12:04 AM
Then logic should tell you it isn’t actually “Anti-Southern bigotry”, its just that when you say “Huck” a lot of people throw up in their mouths a little bit, and they just need a convenient way to mock him.
Obama vs Huck…. AP is right, This way lies ruin.
/Hopes Fred and pull off a miracle.
TCJ on January 8, 2008 at 12:06 AM
And you dear sir appear to have succumbed to either abused wife syndrome or Stockholm syndrome, or both.
I will call Dr. Phil just as soon as I can find his number and maybe he can do an intervention.
MB4 on January 8, 2008 at 12:12 AM
MB4 – He is busy with Brittany… maybe Dr laura?
TCJ on January 8, 2008 at 12:13 AM
That will have to do.
I don’t think she charges as much these days anyway.
MB4 on January 8, 2008 at 12:15 AM
Well thank Heavens… I just gave my last bit of change to Fred, so I couldn’t help out much at Dr Phil’s prices.
;)
TCJ on January 8, 2008 at 12:17 AM
Amen, LagunaDave.
Hopefully, everyone will get focused once we finally have a ticket. Even if it is Huck, or Rudy, or Fred, or Mitt, I’ll be pulling the (R) lever in November.
Why in the hell would anyone who is opposed to the liberal party stay home? Isn’t is better to get 50% of what you want than to stay home, pout and get 0% by helping to elect Obama or Hillary or (God forbid) Silky?
Act like adults. You never get exactly what you want.
BacaDog on January 8, 2008 at 12:22 AM
LOL! Spot on.
How did you post the Arabic into the comment?
Gregor on January 8, 2008 at 12:28 AM
Errr … what have you been smoking?
They only “agree on most issues” if you happen to believe all the nonsense currently spewing from their mouths.
Unfortunately, what McCain, Giuliani, Huckabee, and Romney are currently saying is total crap. It doesn’t match their records OR their previous comments made prior to running for President. If you think what Thompson believes is even remotely in the same galaxy as what the rest of those morons believe, you’ve been living in some cave for the last eight years.
Gregor on January 8, 2008 at 12:32 AM
Does anyone even bother to read the comments before posting?
262 comments before yours, many answering your question quite clearly before you typed your first letter.
Act like a conservative, and vote that way.
Gregor on January 8, 2008 at 12:36 AM
Note to newbie:
I said “almost” all of you.
You failed your first snark test.
Am I good, or am I good?
Mcguyver on January 8, 2008 at 12:39 AM
Act like Fred, the only candidate who’s not acting.
Mojave Mark on January 8, 2008 at 12:40 AM
http://translate.google.com/translate_t?langpair=en|ar
MB4 on January 8, 2008 at 12:57 AM
If it comes down to these two, it will be interesting to see Utah go blue. I hope we don’t have to make this choice.
melda on January 8, 2008 at 1:14 AM
MB4:
Just in case nobody’s thanked you for the leavening lately: Much appreciated! Thanks!
JM Hanes on January 8, 2008 at 1:21 AM
Thall shalt have no leavened bread until a conservative is elected president.
– Moses
Mcguyver on January 8, 2008 at 1:59 AM
Evangelicals, like myself, have every reason to vote AGAINST Mike Huckabee.
ColtsFan on January 8, 2008 at 5:12 AM
This is going to be a long, long year.
Sean M. on January 8, 2008 at 5:29 AM
And what makes you think I didn’t read the comments before posting?
I did read them, and I still wonder why anyone would stay home on election day in protest. There are no perfect conservative candidates anymore. Reagan is gone and will never return.
In lieu of a “perfect” candidate, one has to look at what is there. I’d love to see a no-tax, no-amnesty, pro-life, pro-gun, fiscal and social conservative on the ticket. Haven’t seen one, have you?
So, I’ll hold my nose and vote for Huck or Mitt or even McCain (although the Maverick makes me want to stay home, I won’t) just because I stand to avoid a tax increase with any of them over any liberal candidate.
I am a Conservative, and I will vote that way.
BacaDog on January 8, 2008 at 8:08 AM
Either one is a bad choice. I’ll stay home and watch a DVD on election day.
I’m with Mitt!
madmonkphotog on January 8, 2008 at 8:35 AM
I will not pull the lever for Huckabee under any circumstances. If I have to vote for a clueless candidate, I may as well vote for a democrat that is brave enough to put a “D” behind his name instead of pretending to be a Repbulican so that the Republicans aren’t blamed for the mess left behind in 4 years.
txgalntn on January 8, 2008 at 8:41 AM
As a Utah resident myself I can assure you there is no way in hell Mike Huckabee will carry this State. Most here think he is a bigot. Utah may go blue.
CABE on January 8, 2008 at 9:13 AM
Then why does your answer completely ignore comments such as the one I left at:
There are many comments explaining in detail why a Huckabee win in the general election will end the conservative Party. You don’t say that you disagree with those comments. You simply say you “wonder why anyone would stay home” which seems to indicate that you haven’t even bothered to read the explanations.
If you disagree with them, please explain how you think the conservative Party will somehow rebound from a humiliating loss which indicates to the GOP that voters want a left leaning candidate. What incentive does a Huckabee win give candidates to run as a conservative, after watching the three conservative candidates get humiliated?
Go ahead. Vote for that little “R” on the ballot and see where it gets you in eight years.
Gregor on January 8, 2008 at 10:10 AM
First of all, I don’t buy into the Huck phenomenon and don’t believe he will be our nominee. As many of the commentors have said, he is not a true conservative and I think he will be forgotton by November 2008.
Having said that, I would never, ever stay home on election day even if Huck were the (R) candidate in the general election. I would gladly go pull the lever for the “little R” rather than vote for any of the current liberal candidates.
Why? Because I know for damn sure Hillary, Obama or Edwards will tax us into oblivion and have the ability to nominate and possibly get confirmed SCOTUS judges that will effect the court the rest of our lives. You tell me how a scenario like that forwards our agenda in any way at all. You ask me how I’ll feel in 8 years with a RINO? Well, I ask you how you’re going to feel in 8 years when your taxes are upwards of 40%, serious gun control measures are in play, and you look at a SCOTUS that resembles a Ginsburg tea party.
When faced with the option of having a 10% chance of getting what I want, vs. having a 100% chance of getting everything I despise, I’ll go with the 10% any day.
Actually, Gregor, I did read your 11:21 post and I do have some fear of what you say. However, I for one refuse to just hand over the reins because my little R isn’t the perfect conservative. I don’t think it will be the end of the party as long as we continue to let them know we are still here at the grassroots level. Ask McCain and Lindsay Graham how shamnesty worked out for them. When I say I don’t understand, I don’t understand the logic.
I guess this is where you and I differ: I think having any of the current Dems in the White House for 4 years will do far more damage to our future than having a half-assed “r” there. Potentially irreversable damage when coupled with a “D” congress too.
So, yes, I’ll pull the little “r” if needed, and hold by nose to keep liberalism out of my daily life for the next 4 years.
Meanwhile, we can all be looking for the Reagan reincarnate for 2012.
BacaDog on January 8, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Huh?
Once again, it’s like you just skipped over the comment and reposted your previous comment. You keep saying the same thing, insisting that you’ll put up with the Dems for 4 years, but you ignore the fact that it will insure a liberal President for the next 40 years.
You either missed THIS comment, or just ignored it …
There will be no Reagan candidate after a Huckabee win. No future candidate will dare to run on a conservative platform after watching all three conservatives (Tancredo, Hunter, and Thompson) get humiliated.
It’s not the next four years. It’s forever.
Also, you state that you’re worried about having higher taxes and SCOTUS Justices, but you ignore the fact that Huckabee added massive taxes while Governor of Arkansas. He also refused to sign the pledge not to raise taxes. He’s also a compulsive LIAR, so I’m not sure how you think he’s going to do anything different from what his history shows.
Huckabee is a true liberal. Don’t expect conservative Justices, and if McCain is the nominee … those Justices get even worse as he makes backroom deals with Kennedy.
I don’t think I’m going to change your mind. You’re not really paying any attention to the arguments. It’s not like you’re disagreeing with them. It’s more like you’re just not hearing them.
I asked you to explain how you think the conservative Party will somehow rebound from a humiliating loss which indicates to the GOP that voters want a left leaning candidate, but instead of an answer … I got your comment suggesting that we would get another Reagan. Again I ask … what incentive does a Huckabee win give candidates to run as a conservative, after watching the three conservative candidates get humiliated?
Gregor on January 8, 2008 at 7:31 PM
I’ll add one more thing, which is that the statement you made above is EXACTLY the same statement Republicans have been making every election since Reagan. The GOP knows this. They count on the fact that Republicans will vote for ANY Republican to avoid a liberal victory. Until you realize this, and show them they are wrong, they’ll continue to take advantage of this weakness. Instead, you and your fellow GOP slaves will continue to show them there’s no limit to your blind loyalty, and absolutely no demands in return. They can flip you off and completely screw you for eight years, and you’ll continue to re-elect them.
The correct analogy was used earlier. You’re all like abused women who keep taking the drunk, abusive, cheater back into the home because you’re too weak to make a stand.
How exactly do you feel you’re keeping liberalism out of your life by electing Huckabee, Giuliani, or McCain?
Gregor on January 8, 2008 at 7:45 PM
What makes you think it’s going to be any different four years from now, and won’t you say the exact same thing then too?
The cycle will never end.
Gregor on January 8, 2008 at 7:47 PM
There, corrected it for you CS.
The Ritz on January 8, 2008 at 8:33 PM
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