Open thread: Hey, how does three and a half hours of debate on a Saturday night sound?
posted at 6:00 pm on January 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The fun begins at 7 p.m. ET on ABC. I believe it’s the GOP up first followed by the Hillary-Obama death match at around 8:30, so if you want to catch the Republicans and then switch to Jags-Steelers, you won’t miss much of either. Fred may go after Huck to try to start peeling away evangelical fencesitters in South Carolina; everyone else will be gunning for Mitt, with the exchanges between him and St. John promising plenty of acid highlights later.
Sound off in the comments and please pass along tips about video-worthy moments. In the meantime, for your reading pleasure, here’s (a) Bob Novak whispering that it was Mitt who was behind the Fred dropout rumors last week, (b) Slublog analyzing Huckamania, and (c) word from New Hampshire that the state GOP has dropped out of the debate tomorrow night due to Fox’s Ron Paul snub. With Paul bringing out independents and various donation-happy kooks for the primary, I guess they had no choice but to go to bat for him.
Update (Bryan): You may already know this, but if you want to keep track of the game while you’re watching the debate, hit the NFL’s site and click on the game score and you’ll get a page that’s updated every few seconds. Washington just took the lead as I was writing this update.
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Hillarys on a roll— with her Hand Puppetts!
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 9:22 PM
Stephannopolis mentioned prior to the Dems coming on that Hill’s camp is absolutely LIVID at Richardson for giving votes to Obama. Watch the body language.
And they sat them together – SWEET ! She’s gotta be crawling becuase she couldn’t control this.
stenwin77 on January 5, 2008 at 9:22 PM
Hillary looks real tired. Time for another taxidermy treatment.
abinitioadinfinitum on January 5, 2008 at 9:22 PM
Boy you got that right tshell..they’ll all like us more, everyone hates us dontyaknow
RJS2 on January 5, 2008 at 9:22 PM
Oprah?
NickTx on January 5, 2008 at 9:22 PM
Is that Hillary’s version of Bill’s ‘non-pointing’ thumb?
lsutiger on January 5, 2008 at 9:23 PM
All is copesitic then as Juan McVain is an utterly unpresidential little snide hombre.
MB4 on January 5, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Whatever else, RP is fearless; give him that.
maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 9:23 PM
All of these arguments sound very Bush-Doctrine-esque to me. I suppose because the Dems are saying them, they make sense now.
Ferris on January 5, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Hillary just enunciated the Bush Doctrine! Stateless terrorists.
petefrt on January 5, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Again, she needs Synthroid….
AprilOrit on January 5, 2008 at 9:23 PM
Hillary believes in suitcase nukes?
bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 9:23 PM
The point of the damn question was to get one of the candidates to say:
“We would have looked back and wished we had closed the borders.”
or
“We would look back and wish we had better port security.”
muyoso on January 5, 2008 at 9:23 PM
I have the solution for nuclear proliferation. Drop some nukes on Iran… that will show them :)
I am kidding (kinda)
tshell on January 5, 2008 at 9:24 PM
WTF Bill? Nukes loose on the high seas?
Beto Ochoa on January 5, 2008 at 9:24 PM
A Republican would reject the premise of this “what if we are nuked” question – we cannot allow a nuke to go off in one of our cities, period.
Hillary is talking about no safe havens! Like the people who nuke us wouldn’t do it if they knew we’d be really angry with them.
Massive retaliation is exactly what the terrorists would be aiming for.
LagunaDave on January 5, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Either I have way less tolerance for these people than even I suspected, or they’ve just become way worse. I used to be able to at least watch. Now I’m ready to throw something at the TV. My g/f is sitting here laughing at me.
PowWow on January 5, 2008 at 9:24 PM
They’re still running against Bush.
techno_barbarian on January 5, 2008 at 9:25 PM
How come Bill is even in this debate? Does he really think he has a chance?
tshell on January 5, 2008 at 9:25 PM
Richardson: If we were nuked, we’d wish we’d signed Kyoto!
LagunaDave on January 5, 2008 at 9:25 PM
uh oh… he comes the “TAX,TAX,TAX” discussion
tshell on January 5, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Richardson is a wanker. None of these airheads are speaking any sense. Uh-oh… Health Care. It’s on now! BIG GOVERNMENT IS THE ANSWER! /sarcasm
MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 9:26 PM
No kidding.
Spirit of 1776 on January 5, 2008 at 9:26 PM
CHANGE! Drink…even though charlie said it
NickTx on January 5, 2008 at 9:26 PM
@ LagunaDave on January 5, 2008 at 9:24 PM
Exactly. A massive retaliation would do nothing but create more terrorists.
muyoso on January 5, 2008 at 9:26 PM
Change 2 times- Hillary
NickTx on January 5, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Little Juan needs to be sent straight to bed without his usual fermented lettuce snack.
MB4 on January 5, 2008 at 9:27 PM
This is why Hillary will fail. She doesn’t understand change means her too.
Spirit of 1776 on January 5, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Hope they get back to that spending question. Screw the Change argument. Let’s get specific.
Ferris on January 5, 2008 at 9:27 PM
We’re all gonna be drunk at this rate!
Aggie85 on January 5, 2008 at 9:27 PM
Hillary: “stating clearly what your principals are”
What’s she on, her 23rd campaign slogan?
The Ritz on January 5, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Pot/kettle
abinitioadinfinitum on January 5, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Is everyone enjoying Hillarys tap dance on the Obama
question!
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Who is hillary to talk about changing positions? Her opinion on the war tracked with public opinion.
meandchi on January 5, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Fangs slithering out now from her lips?
petefrt on January 5, 2008 at 9:28 PM
ok im catching a buzz
Mojack420 on January 5, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Hillary: You can count on me to consistently triangulate.
LagunaDave on January 5, 2008 at 9:28 PM
What’s That Now? [Jonah Goldberg]
Bill Richardson just said that terrorists have obtained nukes in Russia. Really? Isn’t this like really, really, really, really big news? And bad?
bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 9:29 PM
socialize medicine for the win.. YAH!
tshell on January 5, 2008 at 9:29 PM
FIFY.
techno_barbarian on January 5, 2008 at 9:29 PM
Another Facebook poll –
“Based on the debate, do you think a Democratic President could keep America safe from foreign threats?”
67% yes.
Who’s willing to take a 2 out of 3 chance that our leader will keep us safe? Not me.
Ferris on January 5, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Hillary Just Announced … the Bush Doctrine [Andy McCarthy]
Any state that gives safe-haven to terrorists who would attack the United States will face massive retaliation … as if that state was part of the terrorist organization. Where have I heard that before?
bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 9:30 PM
Obama is good.
LagunaDave on January 5, 2008 at 9:31 PM
Triple, if not a homer, for Obama on health care: Give everyone the options that Congress has.
Sounds to me like Obama has been studying hard. Good for him.
petefrt on January 5, 2008 at 9:31 PM
Socialists on parade.
techno_barbarian on January 5, 2008 at 9:31 PM
Haha. I thought the same thing.
Ferris on January 5, 2008 at 9:31 PM
techno_barbarian on January 5, 2008 at 9:29 PM
Thx!
meandchi on January 5, 2008 at 9:31 PM
The fact that Obama has choice in his HC plan makes him better than Hillary I think. I don’t want either, but some choice is better than none.
Spirit of 1776 on January 5, 2008 at 9:31 PM
Just like I said earlier, bunch of Dems responding to the polls
The Ritz on January 5, 2008 at 9:31 PM
This “affordable”–put figures on paper. healthcare
maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 9:32 PM
Hillary is going on a tangent about healthcare.
Nonfactor on January 5, 2008 at 9:32 PM
Obama and Hillary,oh baby it’s on!
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 9:32 PM
marketing idea Hillary bobblehead
PowWow on January 5, 2008 at 9:32 PM
I screwed it up, though. Sorry ’bout that.
techno_barbarian on January 5, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Hillary has to distroy Obama tonight. So far it isn’t happening.
bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Kiss Kiss
Beto Ochoa on January 5, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Did you see Hillary,If looks could K!ll!LOL.
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Bitch/moan “electable” crap. Obama
health care
“Choose affordable” “refuse to leave out” “solve problems” “bring people together”
LOVE THE DETAILS, OBI.
maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Gotta have one!
conservnut on January 5, 2008 at 9:34 PM
LAYING THE SMACKDOWN ON HILLARY. TAGTEAM.
muyoso on January 5, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Is Edwards playing for another VP slot?
Spirit of 1776 on January 5, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Dayum…gonna have to chug a beer on all those changes!
lsutiger on January 5, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Edwards twists the knife!
LagunaDave on January 5, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Hil talking about Obama changing positions… wow. Just wow.
techno_barbarian on January 5, 2008 at 9:34 PM
It looks like Edwards and Obama are going to try to eliminate Hillary tonight.
Did he just call Hillary a force of status quo?
bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 9:34 PM
After you John
No, after you Barak
Thank you no, you first
Kiss Kiss
Beto Ochoa on January 5, 2008 at 9:34 PM
Bnelson44,you ain’t kidding,!
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Piling on the empty pants suit! :)
petefrt on January 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
it’s slipping away Hillary,
You can see it on her face
conservnut on January 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Someone should tell Hillary to stop digging, she is in one he11 of a hole already. IMHO
abinitioadinfinitum on January 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
“that’s not the discussion we should be having”
“change”
“status quo”
over arching issue
agents of change, bring about change
I will not argue
I believe
I did not hear Hillary
Speak out–look out.
MR.BRECKBOY
maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
I think obama and edwards have some back door deals going on
tshell on January 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Edwards: “forces for status quo” [points at Hillary]
The Ritz on January 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
techno_barbarian on January 5, 2008 at 9:33 PM
no problem. all the right words where there, so i got it.
meandchi on January 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Cackles when you pull the string.
Silky: Change 6 times 3 drinks apiece,…Hillary twice 3 drinks each.
NickTx on January 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
It’s on now!
techno_barbarian on January 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Hillary is on the ropes. Waiting for the knockout punch.
muyoso on January 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Their picking on poor ol hillary because she’s a women
Aggie85 on January 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
They are ganging up on her….this is where they execute her and take her out….
Her whining about the past is starting now….
AprilOrit on January 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Excuse my french but Hils is a raging Bitch!
Ballistic on January 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Uh oh. The Hill is pissed and getting shrill!
The Ritz on January 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Hillary is pissed :) I LOVE IT!
tshell on January 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Change is about working hard?
Cipes almighty! She’s startin to screech!
Beto Ochoa on January 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Oh rub it in, rub it in Edwards.. change, change, change.
Oops the Hillary train!
Mcguyver on January 5, 2008 at 9:35 PM
Schreech level from cankles is rising!
techno_barbarian on January 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM
She’s losing it!
conservnut on January 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM
This is kinda fun!
bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM
sarcasm btw
Aggie85 on January 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Hillary just lost the nomination.
LagunaDave on January 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Richardson scores a funny!
techno_barbarian on January 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Yeah, I know — I guess sometimes I just hope my age bracket would make more sense.
Ferris on January 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Ummm,she’s becoming un-glued,orderly,she’s loose again!
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Hil makes change. Small change like a bus driver. Bwahahahahaha!
petefrt on January 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Its easy for Bill to say be positive.. he has no chance at winning
tshell on January 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Yeah, Hillary, chill out, baby…
Dork B. on January 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Hill is planning the hit on Edwards even as they speak.
The Ritz on January 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM
tee hee
JustTruth101 on January 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM
LOL! Richardson: Can’t we all just get along?
Ballistic on January 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM
Richardson, don’t pore cold water on this. Let them fight!
bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 9:37 PM
Shes losing it! –25 years of change? Ha Ha Ha
abinitioadinfinitum on January 5, 2008 at 9:37 PM
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