Open thread: Hey, how does three and a half hours of debate on a Saturday night sound?
posted at 6:00 pm on January 5, 2008 by Allahpundit
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The fun begins at 7 p.m. ET on ABC. I believe it’s the GOP up first followed by the Hillary-Obama death match at around 8:30, so if you want to catch the Republicans and then switch to Jags-Steelers, you won’t miss much of either. Fred may go after Huck to try to start peeling away evangelical fencesitters in South Carolina; everyone else will be gunning for Mitt, with the exchanges between him and St. John promising plenty of acid highlights later.
Sound off in the comments and please pass along tips about video-worthy moments. In the meantime, for your reading pleasure, here’s (a) Bob Novak whispering that it was Mitt who was behind the Fred dropout rumors last week, (b) Slublog analyzing Huckamania, and (c) word from New Hampshire that the state GOP has dropped out of the debate tomorrow night due to Fox’s Ron Paul snub. With Paul bringing out independents and various donation-happy kooks for the primary, I guess they had no choice but to go to bat for him.
Update (Bryan): You may already know this, but if you want to keep track of the game while you’re watching the debate, hit the NFL’s site and click on the game score and you’ll get a page that’s updated every few seconds. Washington just took the lead as I was writing this update.
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OK NFL time 7-7
Gatordoug on January 5, 2008 at 8:47 PM
LMAO!
The Ritz on January 5, 2008 at 8:47 PM
OK McCain says he has evidence that man is heating the planet. John I have been waiting for 8 years to see this evidence! Why is it kept so secret??? O wait I know why, it DOES NOT exist. Prove me wrong John!!!!
allrsn on January 5, 2008 at 8:47 PM
Right. And Exxon’s is 11.7%.
BacaDog on January 5, 2008 at 8:47 PM
Fred wins! by a Fredalanche!©
The other candidates should have had to pay to have the honor to be on stage with him.
TheSitRep on January 5, 2008 at 8:48 PM
500 posts, BTW.
TexasDan on January 5, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Well isn’t this special who agreed to this political
slaughter,so the Republicans go first,and now the Liberals
are up.
So now the Liberals are going to spit and polish themselves
on the issues,so they look like the better ticket.
Okay,sit back and watch how the Liberals are treated!
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 8:48 PM
Rudy and Shillary – The Empire State ClusterF*#ks Steel Cage Death Match…what a thought.
AprilOrit on January 5, 2008 at 8:48 PM
I’m think the Dem debate will only enhance my Fred! buzz. Or really set my teeth on edge re: the types of questions that will be asked.
RJS2 on January 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Softballs from here on out
abinitioadinfinitum on January 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Other than Ron Paul, who is clearly out of his mind, I think everybody did reasonably well.
I was not that impressed with the substance of Huckabee and Romney’s answers, but neither was as much of a turn-off as I expected.
I also think my guy (Rudy) had a good night.
LagunaDave on January 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Oh,it gets better the audience is being stacked,I mean
changed!
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 8:49 PM
Right, and while we’re at it, let’s cap salaries of Hollywood celebs and trial lawyers.
petefrt on January 5, 2008 at 8:50 PM
I thought Fred was cool, collected, and just plain kick ass.
I think Romney, maybe followed by McCain, had the most time, which I think is a joke.
nailinmyeye on January 5, 2008 at 8:50 PM
Fred came, he saw, he kicked butt!
The other candidates had to talk three times as long and twice as fast and still couldn’t sidestep their flip-floppery.
I think that during the debate Huckabee flip-flopped on illegal immigration again.
FloatingRock on January 5, 2008 at 8:50 PM
Fred was sharp, but didn’t talk enough and is too laid back to shine much.
Mitt did well, partly because he appeared adult, partly because of fact-time, and partly because that last answer was unopposed.
I liked Rudy tonight, he actually answered some questions that I was curious about. Fred pawned him though. Why didn’t he do this to others is the question.
Huck I think came not to hurt himself. Mission accomplished.
McCain came to throw punches. Successful? Don’t know how that will play in NH. I don’t think it helps him in SC. We’ll see.
Spirit of 1776 on January 5, 2008 at 8:50 PM
Go Fred
maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 8:51 PM
I’m waiting for the announcement that says “If you’re leaving, get the fuck out”
rosewaning on January 5, 2008 at 8:51 PM
Stephanapolous-Thompson owned.
Obviously he is not to be trusted as an analyst, but at the same time, I thought he did okay at best…
John_Locke on January 5, 2008 at 8:51 PM
Stefanapoulous just said Fred was fantastic.
Zach on January 5, 2008 at 8:51 PM
Wow, even the Clinton midget thought Fred kicked ass.
Bad Candy on January 5, 2008 at 8:51 PM
how much
taxesprofit dose the gov make on every gallon of gaswinner fred
mitt
rudy
losers McCain{but what do i know im a lair and he didnt vote for amnesty }
Huckawho?????
RP gets the tinfoil hat award for being the biggest loon
Mojack420 on January 5, 2008 at 8:51 PM
No goofy hats
No hand eaisinn’
No faggy scmoozing
TheSitRep on January 5, 2008 at 8:51 PM
Hard rain is
gonna fallfalling – Jac 7 Pit 7abinitioadinfinitum on January 5, 2008 at 8:52 PM
Right. And he again looked like a bitter old man in the process.
BacaDog on January 5, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Fred is, really, the most consistent on conservative positions. He is laid back, but if he was all jumping in all the time like Romney, or McCain, or Rudy, I think it would take away from his persona.
nailinmyeye on January 5, 2008 at 8:53 PM
McBoom? Anyone think his lame a$$ jokes will backfire?
John_Locke on January 5, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Fred easily won the debate
McCain looked like an ass
Romney was cornered and looked scared at Fred when he confronted him.
Rudy cannot answer a single question without mentioning 9/11 and his answers were barely understandable.
Huckabee was like the kid in the corner that just kept saying “cant we all just get along”
Paul was good and on message, but of course everyone ganged up on him.
muyoso on January 5, 2008 at 8:53 PM
Okay Mojack I’ll agree that the reason the price of gas is what it is is due to taxes…federal and state, wasn’t a Dhimmi governor that didn’t raise the tax after Katrina
RJS2 on January 5, 2008 at 8:54 PM
That’s the mark of a good leader. Listen to everyone give their ideas, interject something here and there, then make your decision.
I thought he did fine and was “above the fray” thru out the debate.
SouthernPride on January 5, 2008 at 8:54 PM
WHERE’S FRED!? I hate the “the media hates us” defense, but seriously, could you ice him out any more?
John_Locke on January 5, 2008 at 8:54 PM
He’s loaded up on one liners, full of charlatan angles and manipulations.
Mcguyver on January 5, 2008 at 8:54 PM
I think tonight hurts McAmnesty in the primary Tuesday
PowWow on January 5, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Fred was on!
Can we now CLEARLY say that Ron Paul is mentally retarded?
NickTx on January 5, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Me too. I’d take any of them in a heartbeat over what the left has to offer.
petefrt on January 5, 2008 at 8:55 PM
so anyone have a good drinking game for the dem debate love fest
Mojack420 on January 5, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Facebook surveys: Bunch of dems answering obviously
The Ritz on January 5, 2008 at 8:55 PM
Fred didn’t have as much time as some of the other candidates but he was more direct and to the point. The other candidates wasted most of their time trying to say something with the correct nuance that their liberal nanny-state/open-borders positions wouldn’t get noticed.
FloatingRock on January 5, 2008 at 8:56 PM
Fred and Mitt did well,Huckerbee okay,and I loved
that Lib instigation of McCain-Mitt,Sir you lied,
oh thats it,it’s on.hehe
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Drink on the word: CHANGE
Drink on the word: EXPERIENCE
We will all be sloshed in 10 minutes. If I could only HEAR it.
CrimsonFisted on January 5, 2008 at 8:57 PM
Drink til it makes sense. Then I know I’ve had too much.
PowWow on January 5, 2008 at 8:57 PM
The abcnews hottie pulled some poll that listed the questions people wished the repubs talked more about. Wasn’t it abc that asked the questions?
Look for the dem debate to cover things reflected in that poll.
meandchi on January 5, 2008 at 8:57 PM
@ NickTx on January 5, 2008 at 8:55 PM
We can agree on that if we can agree that no other candidate regards the constitution as anything but a “piece of paper”.
muyoso on January 5, 2008 at 8:57 PM
My new nickname for him…..
Bo-Bo face. He just looks like a bo-bo.
SouthernPride on January 5, 2008 at 8:57 PM
LOL for real
abinitioadinfinitum on January 5, 2008 at 8:58 PM
@ CrimsonFisted on January 5, 2008 at 8:57 PM
How about only drink while Hillary is cackling?
muyoso on January 5, 2008 at 8:58 PM
@muyoso…we can agree on that.
NickTx on January 5, 2008 at 8:58 PM
Mitt fired his hairdresser tonight.
Mcguyver on January 5, 2008 at 8:58 PM
Good one!
CrimsonFisted on January 5, 2008 at 8:59 PM
Ron reminds me of Marshall Applewhite, leader of the Heavens Gate suicide cult
NickTx on January 5, 2008 at 8:59 PM
I think this is one of the real reasons they wont drill at home to keep the prices so high they get more taxes to buy their jobs for life.
Mojack420 on January 5, 2008 at 8:59 PM
In a cabinet meeting, yes. In a debate? The easiest way to be above the fray in a debate is not to attend.
Spirit of 1776 on January 5, 2008 at 8:59 PM
CrimsonFisted,I’m going to bang my head on the wall for every drink.haha
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 8:59 PM
I agree, but isn’t it too late for him, as they mentioned that he has done no real legwork in NH.
My mother has clearly left the here and now and entered the Twilight Zone, she just infomed my brother and I that Rudy won.
Jeez, and my father just accused me of being a nasty little brat for condemning their precious Rudy, and leading my brother astray. He also believes Fred went out of his way to be rude to Rudy.
AprilOrit on January 5, 2008 at 9:00 PM
HAHA, “expose the 9/11 coverup” right next to the Hillary signs.
muyoso on January 5, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Sawyer and Stephanopoulos were actually impressed with Fred! But of course, they had to ask if it was “too little, too late.” But they seemed honestly to be pleasantly surprised by his “confident, well-informed” performance. Will wonders never cease?
aero on January 5, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Robert Reich was there?
trubble on January 5, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Don’t forget the other 2 words…..
I and MY
(mememememe!!!)
SouthernPride on January 5, 2008 at 9:00 PM
TexasDan, thank you!!! I don’t have a tv in my office, so this is great, I can work and listen at the same time. :-)
JustTruth101 on January 5, 2008 at 9:00 PM
How about drink BECAUSE Hillary is cackling
RJS2 on January 5, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Drink on “this Administration”
abinitioadinfinitum on January 5, 2008 at 9:01 PM
I second with a ROFLMAO at the Expose 911 sign
NickTx on January 5, 2008 at 9:01 PM
well i better run out and get a few more bottles.
god im going to have a hang over in the morning
Mojack420 on January 5, 2008 at 9:02 PM
@ RJS2 on January 5, 2008 at 9:00 PM
Maybe take shots of harder and harder liqour as she raises her cackling voice to its stupid roar.
muyoso on January 5, 2008 at 9:02 PM
Can’t wait for Silky’s neverending answers
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 9:02 PM
How about every time Cankles cackles
conservnut on January 5, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Twoofers for Hillary?
Beto Ochoa on January 5, 2008 at 9:03 PM
And so it begins!
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 9:03 PM
just 4 of them now?
bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Richardson is viable?
PowWow on January 5, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Now for the fun: Obama vs. Hildabeast.
petefrt on January 5, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Fred gave very solid conservative answers, but the man has zero charisma or energy. Say what you will, that is an essential attribute of an electable presidential candidate.
He is Reagan-reincarnate on the issues, but he is the anti-Reagan in his ability to connect with people who don’t live and breathe movement conservatism. I wish it were otherwise, since then I could whole-heartedly support him (as well as Rudy), but the man could not campaign his way out of a wet paper bag.
Baloney.
LagunaDave on January 5, 2008 at 9:03 PM
I betcha that the focus groups don’t say Fred won.
I really want to like him, but he came across as a smart ass tonight.
Buy Danish on January 5, 2008 at 9:03 PM
So, odds on Hillary getting outright booed at this debate?
I give it a 90% chance. The instant she starts with her dirty politics attacking Obama which 60% of the facebook audience support, she is gonna get a groan from them
muyoso on January 5, 2008 at 9:03 PM
Diane: “[Hillary] had some independent young voters travelling along with her. . .”
Can anyone say “houseplant”?
The Ritz on January 5, 2008 at 9:04 PM
It was like strings were pulling on Hill’s mouth to force that smile
Beto Ochoa on January 5, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Facebook is sponsoring this show, and I just went in to check it out. One of the questions is, “Which Republican candidate appeared the most “Presidential” during the debate?”
Ron Paul leads with 43% of the vote.
Scaaaaary.
Ferris on January 5, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Button your coat,Bill Richardson. You look like a slob.
joewm315 on January 5, 2008 at 9:04 PM
I’m sitting out the dems in favor of a shower and maybe a drink.
NickTx on January 5, 2008 at 9:04 PM
at least your parents aren’t misguided on Huck. :(
abinitioadinfinitum on January 5, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Damn, you beat me to it
conservnut on January 5, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Yeah…the facebook set.
NickTx on January 5, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Is this for real?
ABC? Rove must be working very hard these days
VolMagic on January 5, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Drinks for everyone! I’m buyin’.
petefrt on January 5, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Bryan Ross looks like that “face” you see when watching someone’s face upside down while they’re talking.
What a tard.
The Ritz on January 5, 2008 at 9:05 PM
I LOVE this debate format!!!!! MORE MORE MORE of it. Fred had a fantastic performance. A couple of subtle yet major blows to many of them. Fred was like “what? taxes on oil co. profits? Nope.”
Heh.
MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 9:05 PM
Right from the word go,nuclear terrorists!
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 9:05 PM
My drinking game:
Hope
Change
“This Administration”
FDR
Comparison of GHWB and GWB
“not socialism”
Bill (as in Clinton)
Faux southern accent
cackle
two americas
rosewaning on January 5, 2008 at 9:06 PM
I’ll require both after listening to them.
Nosferightu on January 5, 2008 at 9:06 PM
I was for Huck but I may now be moving toward Fred actually.
AprilOrit on January 5, 2008 at 9:06 PM
Obama is not repeating what he said before.
bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 9:06 PM
add in unite and dream and we have ourselves a game
NickTx on January 5, 2008 at 9:06 PM
I can change my mind…no?
AprilOrit on January 5, 2008 at 9:06 PM
HAHAHA. I love the look on Edwards face. Looks like he needs to take a giant BM.
muyoso on January 5, 2008 at 9:07 PM
Another fake response manufactured by the Ronulans.
The Ritz on January 5, 2008 at 9:07 PM
The way Obama pronounces “Pakistan” is enough to disqualify him for me.
Dork B. on January 5, 2008 at 9:07 PM
Hold Everythin! I need to don my waders
profflerferashin?
Beto Ochoa on January 5, 2008 at 9:07 PM
So which is it!
Now Liberals are saying there is a threat!
canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 9:07 PM
13-7 jags
Mojack420 on January 5, 2008 at 9:07 PM
I love the Setup from ABC for the Dem Debate.
Lob them a softball and let them swing.
tshell on January 5, 2008 at 9:08 PM
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