Open thread: Hey, how does three and a half hours of debate on a Saturday night sound?

posted at 6:00 pm on January 5, 2008 by Allahpundit

The fun begins at 7 p.m. ET on ABC. I believe it’s the GOP up first followed by the Hillary-Obama death match at around 8:30, so if you want to catch the Republicans and then switch to Jags-Steelers, you won’t miss much of either. Fred may go after Huck to try to start peeling away evangelical fencesitters in South Carolina; everyone else will be gunning for Mitt, with the exchanges between him and St. John promising plenty of acid highlights later.

Sound off in the comments and please pass along tips about video-worthy moments. In the meantime, for your reading pleasure, here’s (a) Bob Novak whispering that it was Mitt who was behind the Fred dropout rumors last week, (b) Slublog analyzing Huckamania, and (c) word from New Hampshire that the state GOP has dropped out of the debate tomorrow night due to Fox’s Ron Paul snub. With Paul bringing out independents and various donation-happy kooks for the primary, I guess they had no choice but to go to bat for him.

Update (Bryan): You may already know this, but if you want to keep track of the game while you’re watching the debate, hit the NFL’s site and click on the game score and you’ll get a page that’s updated every few seconds. Washington just took the lead as I was writing this update.

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JFK cheated SO TOTALLY on his wife.
JFK gave us the Bay of Pigs Cuban fiasco.
JFK was NOT the MSM version we all know too well.
May he rest in peace.

maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 10:10 PM

1132 on amnesty

Spirit of 1776 on January 5, 2008 at 10:10 PM

maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 10:08 PM

lol

Mojack420 on January 5, 2008 at 10:10 PM

Fredalanche!©

abinitioadinfinitum on January 5, 2008 at 10:11 PM

I’m sorry, I was fixin’ muh hair…whus mah question?

Dork B. on January 5, 2008 at 10:09 PM

Heh.

MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Obama is clearly winning….

AprilOrit on January 5, 2008 at 10:11 PM

1000!!!

Vizzini on January 5, 2008 at 10:11 PM

I’m beginning to think the Dem half of tonight’s debate are rather a disaster, except for Obmama.

I’m beginning to think the Dem half of tonight’s debate are is rather a disaster, except for Obmama.

Sorry. Listening to Silky too much.

petefrt on January 5, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Patient Bill of Rights, fleecing the flock, Breckboy.
Sounds like the patient’s Last Rights.

maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 10:11 PM

We are at 995 now!

conservnut on January 5, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Can stand up and eat…hahahaha…good on you Charlie

RJS2 on January 5, 2008 at 10:13 PM

anti-lobbyist breckboy?! obiboy?!
silent Hillary?

maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 10:13 PM

muyoso on January 5, 2008 at 10:08 PM

I admit, it’s called being a good salesman.

abinitioadinfinitum on January 5, 2008 at 10:13 PM

Edwards is waging a friggin’ class war. Ugh.

No ambulance chasers for President.

techno_barbarian on January 5, 2008 at 10:13 PM

Charlie is suprisingly tough tonight!

conservnut on January 5, 2008 at 10:13 PM

995 I want to post before we get to 1000 so I can say that I was on the ground floor.

TheSitRep on January 5, 2008 at 10:13 PM

wtf is he talking about food for Congress? This is lame.

Dash on January 5, 2008 at 10:13 PM

Vizzini on January 5, 2008 at 10:11 PM

Awesome.

erik on January 5, 2008 at 10:13 PM

This is pathetic

bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 10:13 PM

Fredalanche!©

rosewaning on January 5, 2008 at 10:14 PM

Reality? From her?

PowWow on January 5, 2008 at 10:14 PM

Reality break time!! Brought to you by Hillary Clinton!

bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 10:14 PM

I’m happy knowing Obama can beat any Republican candidate.

Nonfactor on January 5, 2008 at 10:14 PM

There is no patients bill of rights? I’ve seen it several times taking my Dad to the hospital

RJS2 on January 5, 2008 at 10:15 PM

Norman Hsu! Norman Hsuuuuuu!

Dork B. on January 5, 2008 at 10:15 PM

Damn, and the Dems are afraid to debate Fox News moderators? Just wait for the backlash from the Clintonistas about Charlie Gibson being “belligerent” to the Hildabeast! HA

MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 10:15 PM

HAHAHAHA.

Hillary wants to be held accountable????

muyoso on January 5, 2008 at 10:15 PM

Who are they talking about? Everytime they say Natalie, my stream freezes.

rosewaning on January 5, 2008 at 10:15 PM

OK Hillary, you go first and show some accountability for Charlie Hsu.

LagunaDave on January 5, 2008 at 10:15 PM

What is she talking about?

meandchi on January 5, 2008 at 10:15 PM

I’m happy knowing Obama can beat any Republican candidate.

Don’t count your chickens pal. Not only any given Sunday, but next November is a long way away. Things may not be the same.

Spirit of 1776 on January 5, 2008 at 10:15 PM

Fangs!

petefrt on January 5, 2008 at 10:16 PM

Poor me again cankles

conservnut on January 5, 2008 at 10:16 PM

If they were so worried about her liver transplant, especially Silky, why didn’t he pay for it instead of politicizing it?

canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 10:16 PM

That WMUR guy is a Hillary toadie…

Vizzini on January 5, 2008 at 10:16 PM

Poor Hillary, special interests attacking her…republicans…..poor, poor hillary…and I’m so glad that I’m not playing the drinking game. It would be 911 for sure.

RJS2 on January 5, 2008 at 10:16 PM

Hillary is awesome. Well you deserve credit for [all these actions]… now words are not actions…er, yeah.

Spirit of 1776 on January 5, 2008 at 10:16 PM

Oh, it’s a liberal lovefest.

canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 10:17 PM

Bush didn’t veto the Patients’ Bill of Rights. The House and Senate never passed compatible versions, according to Wikipedia.

LagunaDave on January 5, 2008 at 10:17 PM

What is this 35 years crap from Hill? She’s only been a Senator for 6 years or so.

Otherwise, she has never had any influential policy role in any form whatsoever.

BacaDog on January 5, 2008 at 10:17 PM

She’s been Changing (her stance) for 25 years.
.
Fredalanche!©

abinitioadinfinitum on January 5, 2008 at 10:18 PM

MUTINY ON THE STAGE!

MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 10:18 PM

shrill

PowWow on January 5, 2008 at 10:18 PM

ROFL like trained monkeys on that one, good comment there mr moderator.

Dash on January 5, 2008 at 10:18 PM

reality break, assessment hillary.
natalie died that we might lie.

food lobby
patient bill of rights
oil tax subsidies
words are not action
beauty and passion are not action
talk into action, Hillary’s long record of DOING THAT
all strings of words that do not formulate a thought

Gibson says GOD LOVES THE DEMOCRATS, not Republicans
She’s screaching again

maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 10:18 PM

Raise Taxes. Raise Taxes.

The audience is stacked for the hildabeast.

techno_barbarian on January 5, 2008 at 10:18 PM

Well, the Obama/Edwards alliance is plain to see. Scariest. Ticket. Ever.

joewm315 on January 5, 2008 at 10:18 PM

I love it, they just trivialized the “change” movement.

Vizzini on January 5, 2008 at 10:18 PM

I’m happy knowing Obama can beat any Republican candidate.

Nonfactor on January 5, 2008 at 10:14 PM

didn’t realize you were a marxist. I’ll make sure and send you a card next May Day

conservnut on January 5, 2008 at 10:18 PM

Hillary: We raised taxes, give us some credit, damnit!

LagunaDave on January 5, 2008 at 10:18 PM

Hillary can never get away from running on her husband’s appeal. Poor girl, that must actually bug her.

Spirit of 1776 on January 5, 2008 at 10:19 PM

on drudge: SATURDAY NIGHT FIGHTS

bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 10:19 PM

Silky should have included frivolous lawsuits by trial lawyers.

canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 10:19 PM

this moderator is actually a cheerleader

Beto Ochoa on January 5, 2008 at 10:19 PM

what a blah blah fest.

meandchi on January 5, 2008 at 10:19 PM

hmmmm… I hate myself for watching this instead of the football game… but I think Hillary might actually doing herself some good here… plus a nice so far unanswered shot on BO taken up by Edwards for being too close to lobbyists…

CK MacLeod on January 5, 2008 at 10:19 PM

oh for God’s sake John

RJS2 on January 5, 2008 at 10:19 PM

Breckboy ain’t no Teddy Roosevelt.

maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 10:19 PM

Gibson just owned all the Dems with that “God love you for making the argument;” referring to the phony change promises of past Presidents

Vincenzo on January 5, 2008 at 10:20 PM

Great. Intrenched interests. Tax corporations and lose jobs. Tax the wealthy and reduce available capital to create jobs.

Now that’s a recipe for success.

BacaDog on January 5, 2008 at 10:20 PM

conservnut on January 5, 2008 at 10:18 PM

I haven’t heard this line since Wednesday. Marxistbyproxy is one of my favorites, congratulations.

Nonfactor on January 5, 2008 at 10:20 PM

Hehe, Obama has thrown the gauntlet down.

canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 10:20 PM

on drudge: SATURDAY NIGHT FIGHTS

This is almost as much fun as having sex.

petefrt on January 5, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Actually Edwards/Obama would have been a good ticket for them if Edwards wasn’t such a phony.

BO now making an argument for why being the messiah can be helpful politically.

CK MacLeod on January 5, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Words that work, Obama watches H and C
.
Fredalanche!©

abinitioadinfinitum on January 5, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Bill is pounding the podium again :P

bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Dang. And that’s why Obama wins. This cat is gonna wipe out Hillary.

Spirit of 1776 on January 5, 2008 at 10:22 PM

talk into action, Hillary’s long record of DOING THAT.
Obama says words make things happen.
Great CHANGE, blah, blah, blah.

maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 10:22 PM

really all 4 of you tell us we cant deport 12-20 million illegals

Mojack420 on January 5, 2008 at 10:22 PM

Silky’s bull at Lumpy

PowWow on January 5, 2008 at 10:22 PM

ron paul showed up an hour and a half early

bigbeas on January 5, 2008 at 10:22 PM

oh this is good, Richardson is triangulating.

canopfor on January 5, 2008 at 10:22 PM

This is almost as much fun as having sex.

petefrt on January 5, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Dude! You must be doing something wrong! ;)

techno_barbarian on January 5, 2008 at 10:22 PM

Nonfactor on January 5, 2008 at 10:20 PM

Thank you, thank you,

I’ll be here all week.

conservnut on January 5, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Richardson: We’ll need to pay off a lot of people to get the special interests out of Washington.

LagunaDave on January 5, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Did Horatio Sanz just say “emboldering”?

Dork B. on January 5, 2008 at 10:23 PM

Did Bill say “embulgering”?

joewm315 on January 5, 2008 at 10:23 PM

I’m happy knowing Obama can beat any Republican candidate.

Nonfactor on January 5, 2008 at 10:14 PM

In being clueless yes he wins hands down

William Amos on January 5, 2008 at 10:24 PM

I just noticed that Bill is the only one wearing an American Flag lapel pin. Nothing implied by that, but I’m just sayin’……

MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 10:24 PM

new game

Drink every time
1) Hillary mentions that she is an agent of change

2) Hillary mentions that she has 35 years of experience (side note—doing what exactly??? the only position she ever held far as I can tell was AK Education secretary and their state ranking went nowhere)

3) Edwards mentions drug companies, oil companies, or lobbyists

4) Richardson talks about the 5 different jobs he has had over the past 15 years

5) Obama talks about “uniting” and “hope”

truthmattersfa on January 5, 2008 at 10:25 PM

@ William Amos on January 5, 2008 at 10:24 PM

IF you seriously think that McCain, Giuliani, Romney or Huckabee has a chance of beating Obama, you seriously have a surprise coming in less than a year.

muyoso on January 5, 2008 at 10:25 PM

Hillary: I’m More Pro-Abortion Than Barack

bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 10:25 PM

I just noticed that Bill is the only one wearing an American Flag lapel pin. Nothing implied by that, but I’m just sayin’……

MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 10:24 PM

Good catch.

I bet nonfactor ain’t got one either!

conservnut on January 5, 2008 at 10:26 PM

2) Hillary mentions that she has 35 years of experience

Covering scandals or possible scandals.

Spirit of 1776 on January 5, 2008 at 10:26 PM

If we played the new drinking game, we’d all be dead. That may be better than living through one of these guys being president

RJS2 on January 5, 2008 at 10:26 PM

now we’re changing light bulbs….

Dork B. on January 5, 2008 at 10:26 PM

IF you seriously think that McCain, Giuliani, Romney or Huckabee has a chance of beating Obama, you seriously have a surprise coming in less than a year.

muyoso on January 5, 2008 at 10:25 PM

SO your clairvoyant now Nostrodamus ?

William Amos on January 5, 2008 at 10:27 PM

I’m happy knowing Obama can beat any Republican candidate.

Nonfactor on January 5, 2008 at 10:14 PM

I’m decidedly unhappy, but it seems to be the case.

joewm315 on January 5, 2008 at 10:27 PM

Do they know that GW is not on the ’08 ticket?

MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 10:27 PM

Obama wins when he faces Hillary or Edwards. Isnt hard to win that kind of race when your opponents are so flawed

William Amos on January 5, 2008 at 10:28 PM

Is Hillary looking shiny? Is she sweating?

RJS2 on January 5, 2008 at 10:28 PM

Richardson wants us to SACRIFICE!
Breckboy is entrenched AGAIN, in the trenches, doughboy.
Fight against those who will not allow CHANGE–revolt!
Richardson wants mandates, efficient international mandates.
Obama 100% auction? carbon tax pay for (everyone’s) usage.
Hillary invokes the fall of the dollar as good and essential to the economic challenges we face.

maverick muse on January 5, 2008 at 10:28 PM

IF you seriously think that McCain, Giuliani, Romney or Huckabee has a chance of beating Obama, you seriously have a surprise coming in less than a year.

muyoso on January 5, 2008 at 10:25 PM

And Ron Paul will????

bnelson44 on January 5, 2008 at 10:28 PM

how is 5% unemployment a bad thing what was it under bill clinton ?????

Mojack420 on January 5, 2008 at 10:28 PM

Obama is slick, but America is not going to vote for Western-European style socialism.

LagunaDave on January 5, 2008 at 10:28 PM

Oh my goodness Charlie…you are on it tonight

RJS2 on January 5, 2008 at 10:29 PM

We have a jobs problem? 5% unemployment is a jobs problem?

OK Charlie, you just lost me.

conservnut on January 5, 2008 at 10:29 PM

If we played the new drinking game, we’d all be dead. That may be better than living through one of these guys being president

RJS2 on January 5, 2008 at 10:26 PM

Yes, we’d all be joining the celebutards in rehab.

MsUnderestimated on January 5, 2008 at 10:30 PM

How do you Fredheads feel about Thompson turning into a snarky ass and going to bat for his boy McCain tonight?

Patriot33 on January 5, 2008 at 10:30 PM

Mojack420 on January 5, 2008 at 10:28 PM

No kidding, unemployment is a silly thing to go after right now. Isn’t 3% considered the statistical minimum?

joewm315 on January 5, 2008 at 10:30 PM

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